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| replaceafill | good morning jelkner | 09:50 |
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| jelkner | Good morning, replaceafill | 10:15 |
| jelkner | can we hangout? | 10:15 |
| replaceafill | jelkner, i'm waiting for Daniela | 10:15 |
| jelkner | ?? | 10:16 |
| jelkner | where is she? | 10:16 |
| jelkner | she isn't here | 10:16 |
| replaceafill | jelkner, we are going to meet to test the mailing list | 10:16 |
| jelkner | ok, tomorrow perhaps? | 10:16 |
| replaceafill | jelkner, but if she's not around i think we can hang out in the meantime | 10:16 |
| jelkner | great | 10:16 |
| jelkner | let's do that | 10:16 |
| replaceafill | jelkner, give me a sec | 10:17 |
| jelkner | i'll make it quick | 10:17 |
| replaceafill | jelkner, ready | 10:18 |
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| Dally | hello | 11:07 |
| dsmall | good morning replaceafill | 11:07 |
| replaceafill | dsmall, good morning | 11:08 |
| dsmall | replaceafill, sorry about yesterday, I was working with mjsir911 on my computer | 11:08 |
| replaceafill | dsmall, np | 11:08 |
| dsmall | replaceafill, I was able to figure out the dictionary call though | 11:08 |
| replaceafill | dsmall, ah cool | 11:08 |
| Dally | replaceafill, good morning | 11:08 |
| dsmall | replaceafill, now the category links have the number of posts that have that category in parenthesis next to the link | 11:09 |
| replaceafill | hola Dally | 11:09 |
| replaceafill | dsmall, great | 11:09 |
| dsmall | replaceafill, what should I work towards next? | 11:09 |
| replaceafill | dsmall, adding page comments | 11:10 |
| dsmall | replaceafill, okay, where should the comments be? | 11:10 |
| dsmall | replaceafill, do you want me to make a new template for viewing posts? | 11:10 |
| replaceafill | dsmall, preferably on the bottom | 11:10 |
| replaceafill | dsmall, viewing posts? | 11:11 |
| replaceafill | dsmall, we want comments on all our pages | 11:11 |
| replaceafill | dsmall, a post is just a page, right? | 11:11 |
| dsmall | replaceafill, like when you click on the link to the page | 11:11 |
| dsmall | replaceafill, yes | 11:11 |
| dsmall | replaceafill, so do you want comments to be shown on the /blog landing page? | 11:12 |
| replaceafill | dsmall, no, on individual pages | 11:12 |
| replaceafill | dsmall, let me look for an example | 11:13 |
| dsmall | replaceafill, okay | 11:13 |
| replaceafill | dsmall, http://blog.dataegret.com/2018/06/autovacuum-slides-from-pgcon-2018-ottawa.html | 11:13 |
| replaceafill | dsmall, that one doesn't have any comments but it has the area to post them | 11:14 |
| dsmall | replaceafill, right | 11:14 |
| replaceafill | dsmall, this one has one: http://blog.dataegret.com/2017/10/deep-dive-into-postgres-stats.html | 11:14 |
| dsmall | replaceafill, so would I change an existing template or make a new one? | 11:14 |
| replaceafill | dsmall, get the idea? | 11:14 |
| replaceafill | dsmall, you can override templates from the theme | 11:15 |
| replaceafill | dsmall, i mean, *in* the theme | 11:15 |
| replaceafill | dsmall, so if the theme already has the template you need work there | 11:15 |
| dsmall | replaceafill, ok | 11:15 |
| replaceafill | dsmall, create a new branch for the theme repo | 11:16 |
| replaceafill | dsmall, based off the ora_dev branch | 11:16 |
| replaceafill | dsmall, and make any changes you need there | 11:16 |
| dsmall | replaceafill, ok | 11:16 |
| replaceafill | Dally, podemos probar ahorita? | 11:17 |
| Dally | replaceafill, claro | 11:18 |
| replaceafill | Dally, ok | 11:19 |
| replaceafill | Dally, la lista parece funcionar | 11:19 |
| replaceafill | Dally, pero quiero que primero agregués a un usuario al grupo de la lista | 11:19 |
| replaceafill | Dally, para que practiqués :) | 11:19 |
| replaceafill | Dally, recordás como llegar al grupo? | 11:20 |
| Dally | replaceafill, community > Members (admin) no es asi? | 11:21 |
| replaceafill | Dally, no, allí ves el listado de miembros | 11:21 |
| replaceafill | Dally, por cierto | 11:21 |
| replaceafill | Dally, hay un miembro | 11:21 |
| replaceafill | Dally, que tiene un correo invalido (creo) | 11:22 |
| replaceafill | Dally, n/a@gmail.com o algo as'i | 11:22 |
| Dally | replaceafill, hay varios que tienen correo invalido porque ellos no tienen correo electronico | 11:22 |
| replaceafill | Dally, ah ok | 11:22 |
| Dally | replaceafill, son 3 si mal no estoy | 11:22 |
| replaceafill | Dally, a ellos te recomiendo no ponerlos en la lista aún | 11:22 |
| replaceafill | Dally, o comenzaremos a generar reportes de spam | 11:22 |
| replaceafill | Dally, ok, a los grupos llegas con Community -> Groups | 11:23 |
| Dally | replaceafill, hmm la cuestion es que ellos ya son miembros solo que no saben usar el correo electronico y no tienen uno | 11:23 |
| Dally | replaceafill, oh ok ya estoy alli | 11:24 |
| replaceafill | Dally, ahora dale click al nombre del grupo | 11:24 |
| replaceafill | Dally, y veras el listado de usuarios activos alli | 11:24 |
| replaceafill | Dally, solo deben haber dos | 11:24 |
| Dally | replaceafill, si, somos nosotros | 11:24 |
| replaceafill | Dally, correcto | 11:24 |
| replaceafill | Dally, para administrar (agregar o quitar) | 11:25 |
| replaceafill | Dally, dale click a Options abajo a la derecha | 11:25 |
| replaceafill | Dally, y luego Add Member | 11:25 |
| replaceafill | Dally, llegaras a la pagina Add Members to Group | 11:25 |
| Dally | replaceafill, la veo | 11:25 |
| replaceafill | Dally, bien, para hacerte la vida un poco mas facil | 11:25 |
| replaceafill | Dally, siempre usa ya sea el name o email | 11:26 |
| replaceafill | Dally, dos enlaces arriba de Available Members | 11:26 |
| replaceafill | Dally, enlaces verdes | 11:26 |
| Dally | replaceafill, si ya los veo | 11:26 |
| replaceafill | Dally, seria algo como "view by <name>" | 11:26 |
| replaceafill | Dally, ok selecciona al Tendenci Administrator | 11:26 |
| replaceafill | Dally, y le das click a la flecha hacia la derecha | 11:27 |
| replaceafill | Dally, el nombre se deberia mover a Chosen Members | 11:27 |
| replaceafill | Dally, cuando ya tengas a los tres, nosotros dos y el Tendenci Administrator dale click al boton Save | 11:28 |
| replaceafill | Dally, excelente | 11:29 |
| Dally | replaceafill, yey perfecto :) | 11:29 |
| replaceafill | Dally, ahora que ya estamos los tres | 11:29 |
| replaceafill | Dally, anda a tu Thunderbird | 11:29 |
| replaceafill | Dally, oh no perdon | 11:29 |
| replaceafill | Dally, a tu gmail | 11:29 |
| replaceafill | Dally, personal | 11:29 |
| replaceafill | Dally, y envia un correo de prueba a members@novalaciro.org | 11:29 |
| replaceafill | Dally, podes practicar escribirlo en ambos idiomas como discutimos :) | 11:30 |
| Dally | replaceafill, listo | 11:31 |
| replaceafill | Dally, eh, lo enviaste como daniela@novalaciro.org? | 11:32 |
| replaceafill | Dally, Tendenci solo te conoce con tu gmail personal | 11:32 |
| Dally | replaceafill, si.... | 11:32 |
| Dally | replaceafill, ups ya voy de nuevo | 11:32 |
| replaceafill | Dally, ok | 11:33 |
| replaceafill | Dally, cuando eso pasa, los mensajes son retenidos en la lista | 11:33 |
| replaceafill | Dally, hasta que un moderador los aprueba o los elimina | 11:33 |
| Dally | replaceafill, ohhh con razon lo que me salio | 11:33 |
| replaceafill | Dally, tus millones de cuentas me estan confundiendo! | 11:34 |
| replaceafill | Dally, y a la lista :D | 11:34 |
| replaceafill | Dally, en Tendenci tenes danyiza1319 | 11:35 |
| Dally | replaceafill, hahaha perdon xD | 11:35 |
| replaceafill | Dally, y el correo que recien mandaste viene de dallyiza1319 | 11:35 |
| Dally | replaceafill, ese fue el que use para registrarme como miembro | 11:35 |
| Dally | replaceafill, pero no el que esta vinculado a @novalaciro.org | 11:35 |
| replaceafill | Dally, podes enviar uno desde danyiza1319? | 11:36 |
| Dally | replaceafill, ok | 11:36 |
| replaceafill | Dally, hay algo que debes tomar en cuenta | 11:36 |
| replaceafill | Dally, la lista aun no es muy inteligente | 11:36 |
| replaceafill | Dally, si cambias el correo de alguien en su perfil de Tendenci | 11:37 |
| replaceafill | Dally, asegurate primero de quitarlo del grupo | 11:37 |
| replaceafill | Dally, ya vamos a practicar eso | 11:37 |
| replaceafill | Dally, tambien lo haces desde Add Member | 11:37 |
| replaceafill | Dally, pero ahorita garanticemos que varias personas pueden recibir los correos | 11:37 |
| Dally | replaceafill, oh, es decir que si alguno de esos chicos llega a crear un email despues de que lo agregue al grupo, tengo que sacarlo del grupo, editar el email y luego volverlo a agregar? | 11:38 |
| replaceafill | Dally, correcto | 11:38 |
| replaceafill | Dally, sé que es tedioso, pero no tenemos todo pulido aún :( | 11:38 |
| replaceafill | Dally, y ese es uno de los principales problemas que he notado al probar | 11:39 |
| replaceafill | Dally, lol #10394 | 11:39 |
| Dally | replaceafill, no hay lio | 11:39 |
| replaceafill | Dally, chequea tu danyiza | 11:41 |
| replaceafill | Dally, has recibido las respuestas? | 11:41 |
| Dally | replaceafill, si pero pense que la respuesta llegaria a thunderbird | 11:42 |
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| replaceafill | Dally, no, para eso debes hacer lo que recien discutimos | 11:42 |
| replaceafill | Dally, sacarte del grupo | 11:42 |
| replaceafill | Dally, cambiar tu correo en Tendenci | 11:43 |
| Dally | replaceafill, y editar el correo | 11:43 |
| replaceafill | Dally, y volverte a agregar al grupo | 11:43 |
| replaceafill | Dally, correcto | 11:43 |
| Dally | replaceafill, oh ok perfecto voy a eso | 11:43 |
| replaceafill | Dally, dale | 11:43 |
| replaceafill | Dally, avisame si tenes preguntas | 11:43 |
| Dally | replaceafill, ok | 11:43 |
| Dally | replaceafill, tengo una duda | 11:46 |
| replaceafill | Dally, decime | 11:46 |
| Dally | replaceafill, ahora no tengo problema en tener mi cuenta de miembro vinculada con el correo de organizadora, pero en caso de que lleguemos a tener mas organizadores, esto no seria un problema? | 11:47 |
| replaceafill | Dally, por que podria ser un problema? | 11:48 |
| replaceafill | Dally, podemos crear mas cuentas de correo de @novalaciro.org para ellos | 11:48 |
| replaceafill | Dally, y agregarlos como usuarios a Tendenci (no como miembros) | 11:48 |
| Dally | replaceafill, no solo pensaba que podria :) | 11:48 |
| replaceafill | Dally, :D | 11:48 |
| replaceafill | Dally, la funcionalidad es bastante flexible | 11:49 |
| replaceafill | Dally, podes tener a alguien como yo por ejemplo | 11:49 |
| Dally | replaceafill, ok ya cambie el correo y me agregue de nuevo, voy a mandar otra prueva, lo hago directamente desde el correo de thunderbird? | 11:49 |
| replaceafill | Dally, dejame chequear antes | 11:49 |
| Dally | replaceafill, ok | 11:49 |
| replaceafill | Dally, sí todo luce bien | 11:50 |
| replaceafill | Dally, dale con la nueva prueba | 11:50 |
| Dally | replaceafill, pero la mando desde thunderbird? | 11:51 |
| replaceafill | Dally, si | 11:51 |
| replaceafill | Dally, ahora si | 11:51 |
| replaceafill | Dally, porque esa es tu nueva cuenta en la lista | 11:51 |
| replaceafill | Dally, perdon, tu nueva direccion | 11:51 |
| Dally | replaceafill, creo que ya llego | 11:52 |
| Dally | replaceafill, siiii funciono perfectamente :D | 11:52 |
| Dally | replaceafill, genial!!! funciona divinamente | 11:53 |
| replaceafill | Dally, :) | 11:53 |
| replaceafill | Dally, ok, tiempo de agregar al resto de miembros? | 11:54 |
| replaceafill | Dally, recordá, miembros que tengan direcciones validas | 11:54 |
| replaceafill | Dally, o podes esperar si queres | 11:54 |
| replaceafill | Dally, pero este es el workflow | 11:54 |
| Dally | replaceafill, si, de cualquier forma puedo tener una pestana extra para mirar eso | 11:55 |
| Dally | replaceafill, sin embargo antes de eso quiero hacerte una pregunta | 11:56 |
| replaceafill | Dally, decime | 11:56 |
| Dally | replaceafill, en gmail uno puede tener una "firma" que aparece siempre al final del correo electronico. es posible hacer eso en thunderbird? | 11:56 |
| replaceafill | Dally, si | 11:56 |
| replaceafill | Dally, no se como se mira tu Thunderbird | 11:57 |
| replaceafill | Dally, pero | 11:57 |
| replaceafill | Dally, en la barra lateral | 11:57 |
| replaceafill | Dally, trata de darle click derecho a tu direccion | 11:57 |
| replaceafill | Dally, y mira si te sale una opcion "Configuracion" | 11:57 |
| replaceafill | Dally, o settings o algo asi | 11:57 |
| replaceafill | Dally, en mi version es la ultima | 11:58 |
| replaceafill | Dally, en el menu de la aplicacion la tengo en | 11:58 |
| replaceafill | Dally, Editar -> Configuracion de cuenta | 11:58 |
| Dally | replaceafill, creo que ya esta, voy a probar contigo xD | 11:58 |
| replaceafill | Dally, dale | 11:59 |
| Dally | replaceafill, listo | 11:59 |
| Dally | replaceafill, perfecto | 12:01 |
| replaceafill | Dally, ok, la lista es toda tuya | 12:03 |
| replaceafill | Dally, algo mas que necesites? | 12:03 |
| Dally | replaceafill, de hecho si xD acabo de encontrar un pequeno problemita, ya te muestro | 12:03 |
| replaceafill | Dally, ah ok | 12:03 |
| Dally | replaceafill, https://imgur.com/a/73VEeDy | 12:07 |
| replaceafill | Dally, wow que rápido | 12:08 |
| Dally | replaceafill, hehehe | 12:08 |
| dsmall | replaceafill, Hey i'm kinda lost, im not sure where/how to start, I have been looking through the nova theme directory but I cant figure out which template controls what I see when I click on a page | 12:09 |
| replaceafill | Dally, te acabo de mandar la copia de mi solicitud para remover nuestro servidor del listado de spam de hotmail | 12:10 |
| replaceafill | Dally, te recomiendo que mientras tanto uses tu cuenta personal si es posible | 12:11 |
| Dally | replaceafill, ok... | 12:11 |
| replaceafill | Dally, toma unas 72 horas la respuesta de ellos | 12:11 |
| Dally | replaceafill, oh ok, solo es una persona asi que deberiamos estar bien | 12:11 |
| replaceafill | Dally, correcto | 12:11 |
| replaceafill | Dally, y en algun punto te desbloquean cuando insistis | 12:11 |
| replaceafill | Dally, así que te aviso cuando tenga una respuesta | 12:11 |
| replaceafill | Dally, hotmail y yahoo son bastante picky | 12:11 |
| replaceafill | Dally, hotmail mas | 12:12 |
| Dally | replaceafill, gracias, creo que eso es todo por ahora aunque me gustaria que en el futuro pudieramos enlazar los emails con los #telefonicos, es decir que si mando un correo a los miembros, estos puedan recibir tambien una notificacion por el telefono | 12:12 |
| Dally | replaceafill, si eso imagine | 12:12 |
| replaceafill | Dally, ah si, revisa los costos de twillio | 12:13 |
| replaceafill | Dally, no creo que desarrollar esa funcionalidad tome mucho tiempo | 12:13 |
| replaceafill | dsmall, start from the url | 12:14 |
| dsmall | replaceafill, ohhh okay | 12:14 |
| replaceafill | dsmall, we ran a similar experiment on your first day | 12:14 |
| replaceafill | dsmall, remember? | 12:14 |
| dsmall | replaceafill, I do now | 12:14 |
| replaceafill | dsmall, we also have a doc, hold on | 12:14 |
| Dally | replaceafill, a si? cuanto tiempo tu crees? | 12:15 |
| replaceafill | dsmall, https://docs.google.com/document/d/1X8vp1Rb6gydOEOo545NNcza1eY3cwse47CZ28vQ_nIw/edit | 12:15 |
| dsmall | replaceafill, thanks\ | 12:15 |
| replaceafill | dsmall, section How to get from a Tendenci URL to a Theme template | 12:15 |
| replaceafill | Dally, unos 3 dias quiza | 12:15 |
| replaceafill | Dally, tengo que descomponer la tarea | 12:15 |
| replaceafill | Dally, para darte un estimado mas preciso | 12:16 |
| replaceafill | Dally, los numeros telefonicos ya los tenemos | 12:16 |
| replaceafill | Dally, verdad? | 12:16 |
| Dally | replaceafill, sorry creo que me despiste un poco. cuando dices "desarrollar esa funcion" es crearla para nosotros? | 12:16 |
| replaceafill | Dally, correcto | 12:16 |
| replaceafill | Dally, eso no lo tenemos | 12:16 |
| Dally | replaceafill, si, los telefonos si los tenemos | 12:17 |
| Dally | replaceafill, ahora estoy usando untelefono de ubunto para mandar los mensajes y eso esra siendo un dolor de cabeza | 12:17 |
| replaceafill | Dally, me imagino :D | 12:17 |
| replaceafill | Dally, creo que lo unico que necesitas decidir es cual proveedor de sms usar | 12:17 |
| Dally | replaceafill, T-movil | 12:18 |
| replaceafill | Dally, me refiero a uno que nos deje enviar sms programaticamente | 12:18 |
| replaceafill | Dally, mediante software, no con el dispositivo fisico | 12:18 |
| replaceafill | Dally, por eso te mencione a twillio https://www.twilio.com/ | 12:19 |
| Dally | replaceafill, oh, pues eso si no lo se | 12:19 |
| replaceafill | Dally, https://www.twilio.com/sms | 12:19 |
| replaceafill | Dally, ese es el proveedor que la mayoria de desarrolladores usan para esas tareas | 12:19 |
| replaceafill | Dally, no es el unico obviamente :) | 12:20 |
| Dally | replaceafill, deberiamos tratar de buscar uno que sea gratis, por que no creo que el board apruve invertir en esto | 12:20 |
| replaceafill | Dally, y yo dudo que haya uno gratis | 12:21 |
| replaceafill | Dally, ya he buscado :( | 12:21 |
| replaceafill | Dally, https://www.twilio.com/sms/pricing/us | 12:21 |
| replaceafill | Dally, por si lo queres discutir con el board | 12:21 |
| replaceafill | Dally, cada mensaje cuesta como $0.008 | 12:22 |
| replaceafill | Dally, en teoria es un centavo por mensaje | 12:22 |
| Dally | replaceafill, oh pense que eso eran 8 centavos por mensaje | 12:23 |
| replaceafill | Dally, no, en USA es relativamente barato | 12:23 |
| Dally | replaceafill, creo que dice que los primeros 5 millones de mensajes son solo 75 centavos, no esta mal, se lo mandare a Jeff y lo propondre | 12:24 |
| replaceafill | Dally, +1 | 12:24 |
| replaceafill | Dally, no sé que tan actualizado este esto: https://www.g2crowd.com/products/twilio/competitors/alternatives | 12:25 |
| Dally | replaceafill, en caso de que lo hagamos asi, sera posible mandar los mensajes mediante la computadora? | 12:25 |
| replaceafill | Dally, pero son alternativas a twillio | 12:25 |
| replaceafill | Dally, mediante Tendenci | 12:25 |
| replaceafill | Dally, podriamos agregarle una opcion a los grupos | 12:26 |
| replaceafill | Dally, como haces con Add Member | 12:26 |
| replaceafill | Dally, algo como "Send message" | 12:26 |
| replaceafill | Dally, te da un formulario para que redactes el mensaje y boton de Send | 12:26 |
| replaceafill | Dally, Tendenci agarra todos los miembros del grupo y sus numeros telefonicos | 12:27 |
| replaceafill | Dally, contacta a twillio (o el proveedor que sea) | 12:27 |
| replaceafill | Dally, "aca estan estos numeros con este mensaje, por favor envialos" | 12:27 |
| replaceafill | Dally, twillio contesta con "ahorita lo hago, aqui esta tu codigo para que chequees la tarea" | 12:28 |
| replaceafill | Dally, en tendenci podemos guardar dichos codigos | 12:28 |
| Dally | replaceafill, oh perfecto, ya le hable a jeff sobre esto para que lo viera | 12:28 |
| replaceafill | Dally, perfecto | 12:28 |
| Dally | replaceafill, seria fantastico | 12:28 |
| replaceafill | Dally, avisame si se deciden a hacerlo | 12:29 |
| replaceafill | Dally, para agendarlo :) | 12:29 |
| replaceafill | Dally, notá que dicha funcionalidad no está amarrada a la lista de correo | 12:29 |
| replaceafill | Dally, y en mi opinion no deberia estarlo | 12:29 |
| replaceafill | Dally, te da mas flexibilidad | 12:29 |
| jelkner | replaceafill, does twilio use free software? | 12:29 |
| replaceafill | jelkner, nope | 12:29 |
| jelkner | that's not good | 12:30 |
| replaceafill | jelkner, i haven't found a free software alternative | 12:30 |
| replaceafill | jelkner, or a coop for that matter | 12:30 |
| replaceafill | jelkner, that does the same | 12:30 |
| Dally | replaceafill, te dejo con Jeff para hablar de eso :) volvere mas tarde, gracias por todo | 12:30 |
| jelkner | did we ask micky? | 12:30 |
| replaceafill | Dally, seguro | 12:30 |
| replaceafill | Dally, nos vemos | 12:30 |
| replaceafill | jelkner, i think they use twillio too | 12:30 |
| replaceafill | jelkner, but i can ask | 12:30 |
| jelkner | por favor | 12:30 |
| jelkner | since we should follow their lead. | 12:31 |
| replaceafill | jelkner, will do | 12:31 |
| jelkner | gracias, hermano | 12:31 |
| jelkner | btw. check deposited | 12:31 |
| replaceafill | jelkner, thank *you* | 12:31 |
| replaceafill | jelkner, ah, thanks | 12:31 |
| jelkner | needs to clear | 12:31 |
| jelkner | i think 3 days | 12:32 |
| replaceafill | jelkner, sure | 12:32 |
| jelkner | i'll let you know tomorrow | 12:32 |
| replaceafill | jelkner, thanks! | 12:32 |
| jelkner | ping, replaceafill | 12:43 |
| replaceafill | jelkner, pong | 12:43 |
| jelkner | two things | 12:43 |
| jelkner | 1. looks like check clears tomorrow | 12:44 |
| jelkner | 2. have a minute to talk about liberia? | 12:44 |
| replaceafill | jelkner, give me a couple of minutes, i'm writing Ben and Micky about the sms gateway | 12:44 |
| jelkner | cool | 12:44 |
| jelkner | talk later | 12:44 |
| jelkner | i'm here til 3:10 pm | 12:45 |
| replaceafill | jelkner, email sent | 12:46 |
| replaceafill | jelkner, what's up with Liberia? | 12:46 |
| replaceafill | jelkner, Isaac? | 12:46 |
| jelkner | yes | 12:46 |
| jelkner | i was just talking to him | 12:46 |
| replaceafill | jelkner, is he going to take advantage of the $1 fees we offer? :D | 12:46 |
| jelkner | he is heading to liberia in august | 12:46 |
| jelkner | his party won the last presidential election | 12:47 |
| replaceafill | jelkner, nice | 12:47 |
| jelkner | and he will be meeting with the president when he goes | 12:47 |
| jelkner | he wants to do something for the education system there | 12:47 |
| jelkner | so ... ;-) | 12:47 |
| jelkner | https://django-sis.readthedocs.io/en/latest/ | 12:48 |
| jelkner | if he gets real funding, could we hack on this? | 12:48 |
| replaceafill | jelkner, oh no | 12:48 |
| jelkner | to meet there needs | 12:48 |
| replaceafill | jelkner, i knew at some point any SIS story would come! | 12:48 |
| jelkner | dude, you have domain knowledge and expertise | 12:49 |
| replaceafill | jelkner, i checked it a couple of years ago | 12:49 |
| jelkner | and? | 12:49 |
| replaceafill | jelkner, well i'm biased but it wasn't ST ;) | 12:49 |
| jelkner | i understand | 12:49 |
| jelkner | but ST is dead | 12:49 |
| replaceafill | jelkner, ouch | 12:49 |
| replaceafill | jelkner, right in the feels man! | 12:49 |
| replaceafill | jelkner, :'( | 12:49 |
| jelkner | lol | 12:49 |
| replaceafill | jelkner, (joking) | 12:49 |
| replaceafill | jelkner, afaik it's the only django sis | 12:50 |
| jelkner | i believe so | 12:50 |
| jelkner | i met the developer at pycon | 12:50 |
| jelkner | we had a long conversation about it | 12:50 |
| replaceafill | jelkner, something burke | 12:50 |
| replaceafill | right? | 12:50 |
| replaceafill | jelkner, i forgot his first name | 12:50 |
| replaceafill | jelkner, john/david? | 12:51 |
| jelkner | ACTION goes to search email | 12:51 |
| replaceafill | jelkner, i'm bad at names :( | 12:51 |
| jelkner | me too! | 12:51 |
| jelkner | i'm worse than you | 12:51 |
| replaceafill | jelkner, i remember his company name | 12:51 |
| replaceafill | jelkner, David! | 12:52 |
| replaceafill | jelkner, https://davidmburke.com/2015/07/18/mistakes-to-make-when-starting-a-business-with-python/ | 12:52 |
| replaceafill | jelkner, to be honest djangos-sis looks as dead as ST | 12:53 |
| replaceafill | jelkner, but at least django has a community | 12:54 |
| jelkner | i realize django cms is dead too | 12:55 |
| replaceafill | jelkner, django cms? | 12:55 |
| jelkner | oops | 12:55 |
| jelkner | django-sis | 12:55 |
| replaceafill | jelkner, ah | 12:55 |
| replaceafill | jelkner, ye | 12:55 |
| jelkner | sorry | 12:55 |
| replaceafill | s | 12:55 |
| replaceafill | jelkner, last commit is from 2015 | 12:55 |
| jelkner | but i told isaac, even if you came up with $100K, you wouldn't want to spend it on ST | 12:55 |
| jelkner | django-sis, on the other hand, since it is django, i thought might be worth reviving | 12:56 |
| jelkner | that's what i'm asking you about | 12:56 |
| replaceafill | jelkner, and there's a not about the project not being maintained anymore | 12:56 |
| jelkner | so, the story goes like this... | 12:56 |
| jelkner | replaceafill, ?? | 12:57 |
| replaceafill | jelkner, that's my feeling too | 12:57 |
| jelkner | and there's a not about? | 12:57 |
| replaceafill | jelkner, oh sorry | 12:57 |
| replaceafill | jelkner, a note | 12:57 |
| jelkner | what does it say | 12:57 |
| jelkner | ? | 12:57 |
| replaceafill | jelkner, https://github.com/burke-software/schooldriver | 12:57 |
| replaceafill | jelkner, "This project is no longer active and you are not advised to use it. Read more here if you'd like. | 12:57 |
| replaceafill | " | 12:57 |
| jelkner | ACTION goes to read | 12:58 |
| replaceafill | jelkner, are you aware of this initiative https://teacherswithguts.org/welcome | 12:59 |
| replaceafill | jelkner, that's maintained by agaric if i'm not mistaken | 13:00 |
| replaceafill | jelkner, and i don't quite "get it" | 13:00 |
| replaceafill | jelkner, but since i lurk their channel/twitter | 13:00 |
| replaceafill | s/twitter/blog | 13:00 |
| jelkner | damn, i have no time to lurk anywhere | 13:01 |
| jelkner | i can't walk and chew gum at the same time | 13:01 |
| replaceafill | jelkner, :) | 13:01 |
| jelkner | and i'm on the verge of a nervous breakdown from overload as is ;-) | 13:02 |
| jelkner | but anyway, one thing at a time | 13:02 |
| jelkner | i read david's slides | 13:02 |
| replaceafill | jelkner, ah | 13:02 |
| replaceafill | jelkner, ok | 13:02 |
| jelkner | much stuff we know | 13:02 |
| jelkner | no unit testing | 13:02 |
| replaceafill | jelkner, a bit of the same ST road | 13:02 |
| jelkner | just dive in without dev oops knowledge | 13:02 |
| jelkner | so here is my question | 13:02 |
| jelkner | if isaac got funding for software development | 13:04 |
| jelkner | could he come to us? | 13:04 |
| replaceafill | jelkner, let me quote you: i'm on the verge of a nervous breakdown from overload as is ;-) | 13:04 |
| replaceafill | :D | 13:04 |
| jelkner | lol | 13:04 |
| jelkner | so the real question becomes, can isaac visit replaceafill and jelkner in the loony bin? | 13:05 |
| replaceafill | lol | 13:05 |
| replaceafill | jelkner, we know Isaac | 13:05 |
| replaceafill | jelkner, and he knows us | 13:05 |
| jelkner | precisely | 13:05 |
| replaceafill | jelkner, we have some decent experiences | 13:05 |
| replaceafill | jelkner, trust, etc | 13:06 |
| replaceafill | jelkner, :) | 13:06 |
| jelkner | he wants to work with us because of that trust | 13:06 |
| replaceafill | jelkner, see? i'm learning from you ;) | 13:06 |
| replaceafill | jelkner, so i wouldn't say no | 13:06 |
| jelkner | cool | 13:06 |
| jelkner | the next question would be | 13:06 |
| jelkner | is it possible to extract value from django-sis | 13:06 |
| jelkner | and tests, refactor heavily, etc. | 13:07 |
| jelkner | or would we just have to start something from scratch? | 13:07 |
| replaceafill | jelkner, it depends on isaac's needs really | 13:07 |
| jelkner | the first user story he gave me was allowing students to register for classes at the national university | 13:07 |
| jelkner | and generating transcripts | 13:08 |
| jelkner | (alan elkner strikes again ;-) | 13:08 |
| replaceafill | :D | 13:08 |
| replaceafill | jelkner, transcripts is the history of all your grades, correct? | 13:08 |
| replaceafill | jelkner, through your whole education levels | 13:09 |
| replaceafill | jelkner, that's what it meant in ST anyway | 13:09 |
| jelkner | here we are only talking about univeristy | 13:09 |
| replaceafill | jelkner, sure | 13:09 |
| replaceafill | jelkner, but it's a grade history | 13:09 |
| jelkner | yes | 13:09 |
| replaceafill | jelkner, so what i mean is | 13:09 |
| jelkner | classes taken, scores earned | 13:10 |
| replaceafill | jelkner, what are the course requirements | 13:10 |
| jelkner | with summary (called a GPA) | 13:10 |
| jelkner | let's not spend too much time on this yet | 13:10 |
| replaceafill | jelkner, sure | 13:10 |
| replaceafill | jelkner, this is a bit like the gaulludet case | 13:11 |
| jelkner | all we need to determine now is whether when isaac speaks with the president of liberia in august | 13:11 |
| replaceafill | jelkner, we need to study Kevin's code | 13:11 |
| jelkner | he can say with confidence "i know how to get this done" | 13:11 |
| jelkner | and we have his back | 13:11 |
| replaceafill | jelkner, +1 | 13:11 |
| jelkner | yes | 13:11 |
| jelkner | precisely | 13:11 |
| jelkner | cool, i'll let you get back to work | 13:11 |
| jelkner | thanks! | 13:11 |
| replaceafill | jelkner, sure | 13:12 |
| replaceafill | jelkner, keep me posted :) | 13:12 |
| jelkner | will do | 13:12 |
| jelkner | and what i love about transparent communication | 13:12 |
| jelkner | is i can just point isaac at our irc logs so he knows about our conversation | 13:13 |
| jelkner | thanks! | 13:13 |
| replaceafill | jelkner, :) | 13:13 |
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| jelkner | replaceafill, guts looks very interesting | 13:31 |
| replaceafill | jelkner, :) | 13:31 |
| jelkner | thanks for the referral! | 13:31 |
| replaceafill | jelkner, np | 13:31 |
| replaceafill | outlook.com "smart network data service" is one of the reasons i don't want to be nearly involved in managing email servers | 13:39 |
| replaceafill | "The data returned by the first URL, the View Data page, is identical to the result of pushing the Export to .CSV button on that page. To request data for a specific date, append "&date=MMDDYY" to the URL (for example: "&date= 030406" for data for the day of March 4, 2006 in Pacific Standard Time). To request a sample message, either of type "complaint" or "trap", for a given IP and date, append the following in addition to the da | 13:40 |
| replaceafill | ta parameter:"&ip=1.2.3.4&sampletype=trap". | 13:40 |
| replaceafill | sorry for the flood | 13:40 |
| replaceafill | but i wanted this to live in the logs | 13:40 |
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| replaceafill | ACTION goes to get lunch | 14:48 |
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