IRC log of #novawebdev for Wednesday, 2018-08-01

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zOnnyHello ?11:12
zOnnylelkneralfaro: are u around11:12
lelkneralfarozOnny, hey yup11:12
zOnnylelkneralfaro: busy ?11:13
lelkneralfarozOnny, nope I can chat11:14
zOnnylelkneralfaro: I have switched the sticky bar for our home website11:15
zOnnylelkneralfaro: it the http://novawebdev.novawebdevelopment.org11:15
lelkneralfarozOnny, checking it out now11:16
zOnnyzOnny: I didn't receive any feedback on that11:16
lelkneralfarozOnny, oh I see, so that stays up there when you scroll down11:17
lelkneralfarozOnny, I think that's great11:17
zOnnylelkneralfaro: I think the same11:17
zOnnylelkneralfaro: because not everyone is a member or user11:17
zOnnyto have the admin navigation bar scrolling11:18
lelkneralfarozOnny, true, plus it looks good to me11:19
zOnnylelkneralfaro: it's been there until the approvement11:20
lelkneralfarozOnny, +1 who are you looking to approve it? all the members?11:21
zOnnylelkneralfaro: sometimes I am little crazy pushing things fastly without the consultation11:22
replaceafillzOnny, lelkneralfaro in my opinion it gets in the way when you are authenticated11:22
zOnnylelkneralfaro: I am working on that :D11:22
lelkneralfarozOnny, yeah, better to ask others. feel free to send an email to the members11:22
replaceafillzOnny, if you could code it in such a way that it keeps the megamenu on top, that'd be great11:22
zOnnylelkneralfaro: I mean in my behavior 11:23
zOnnyreplaceafill: you mean two menus scrolling ? 11:23
replaceafillzOnny, i mean, if you are a member/user and you need to use the cms11:23
zOnnyreplaceafill: true11:24
replaceafillzOnny, the navbar removes the tendencci megamenu in all the operations11:24
replaceafillzOnny, once you scroll down11:24
zOnnyreplaceafill: correct11:24
replaceafillzOnny, i think that'll get in the way11:24
replaceafillzOnny, if you could keep the megamenu on top of the sticky navbar11:25
zOnnyreplaceafill: I you want to get the megamenu go back to the top pressing the up arrow 11:25
zOnny*if11:25
replaceafillzOnny, i know, but that's almost the same11:25
replaceafillzOnny, you need extra clicks11:25
replaceafillzOnny, and as a member/user, the navbar is almost useless the way it's designed11:26
zOnnyreplaceafill: having to menus and dropdown submenus is a mess for me11:26
zOnny*two11:26
replaceafillzOnny, as a visitor i can see the value11:26
zOnnyreplaceafill: that is my point 11:27
replaceafillzOnny, that's mine too :)11:27
replaceafillzOnny, deal with both cases11:27
zOnnyreplaceafill: most of them are visitor 11:27
replaceafillzOnny, not just one11:28
zOnnyreplaceafill: *visitors11:28
replaceafillzOnny, the navbars will never replace the tenedenci megamenu11:28
zOnnyreplaceafill: I can get both scrolling to confirm how it looks 11:28
zOnnylelkneralfaro: this is a good excuse to vote :D11:29
replaceafillok, back to work for me11:30
lelkneralfarozOnny, yeah I see replaceafill's point. better to keep the megamenu without having to scroll all the way up11:30
lelkneralfarozOnny, yes good idea to have a vote too11:30
lelkneralfarozOnny, go for it11:30
zOnnylelkneralfaro: how util is for you using the megamenu once you are scrolling ?11:30
replaceafillzOnny, why did you implement stickyness in the navbar?11:31
zOnnylelkneralfaro: I asked myself it before doing it11:31
replaceafillzOnny, how util (you want useful here) is navbar stickyness?11:31
lelkneralfarozOnny, very. I'm working on these help files now and it means lots of scrolling around and using the navbar. it would be a big hassle to have to go back to the top all the time11:32
zOnnylelkneralfaro: that is helpful to keep the tendenci's megamenu in place 11:33
zOnnylelkneralfaro: replaceafill thank u for the feedbacks11:35
lelkneralfarozOnny, +1 any time11:36
replaceafilllelkneralfaro, regarding your issue from today11:36
replaceafilllelkneralfaro, the only situation i can think of11:36
replaceafilllelkneralfaro, is the membership application having multiple membership types11:37
replaceafilllelkneralfaro, and allow the user have them all11:37
replaceafillACTION should write it in the issue instead ;)11:38
replaceafilldone11:39
lelkneralfaroreplaceafill, ahh I see, that's a good point. well that sounds like it complicates things and makes it a bigger task. I mean ideally then only the membership type that the user does not already have in the group would be available... but that sounds more complicated11:39
replaceafilllelkneralfaro, this *could* be a theme issue11:43
replaceafilllelkneralfaro, maybe the default theme (not tendenci2018) handles it differently11:43
replaceafilllelkneralfaro, i usually find answers to this kind of things there11:44
replaceafilllelkneralfaro, unfortunately we can't have multiple themes in the same instance11:44
lelkneralfaroreplaceafill, I see, and I'm not sure how big a deal it is. maybe something to keep in mind when time is available to work on issues of less priority 11:47
replaceafilllelkneralfaro, +111:47
replaceafilllelkneralfaro, we need to train you to abuse the demo :D11:50
replaceafilllelkneralfaro, from changing the demo: https://i.imgur.com/7TKBHNm.png11:51
lelkneralfaroreplaceafill, yes I was thinking about that myself safer to practice with the demo11:55
replaceafilllelkneralfaro, +111:55
replaceafillzOnny, busy?12:15
zOnnyreplaceafill: yes?12:18
replaceafillzOnny, i'm trying to figure out an error in Paul Flint's instance12:18
replaceafillzOnny, it's not a big deal and you don't need to do anything about it12:18
zOnnyreplaceafill: an ERROR ?12:18
replaceafillzOnny, but i'd like to know if you remember how you set up that part12:19
replaceafillzOnny, it's about the photo set12:19
replaceafillzOnny, if you see /photos12:19
zOnnyreplaceafill: on it12:19
replaceafillzOnny, there's a broken image, right?12:19
replaceafillzOnny, do you remember how it got broken?12:19
replaceafillzOnny, answering "no" it's fine12:20
zOnnyreplaceafill: shoot12:20
replaceafillzOnny, as far as i can tell it doesn't affect any other part of the site12:20
zOnnyreplaceafill: big NO12:20
replaceafillzOnny, cool12:21
replaceafillzOnny, thanks for your help...12:21
replaceafill:)12:21
zOnnyreplaceafill: np12:21
replaceafilllelkneralfaro, what about this policy?12:39
replaceafilllelkneralfaro, if we can replicate the issues you find in the demo12:40
replaceafilllelkneralfaro, we file them as upstream bugs?12:40
lelkneralfaroreplaceafill, by this you mean they are issues with tendenci fundamentally and not with our themes?12:40
replaceafilllelkneralfaro, correct12:41
replaceafilllelkneralfaro, from the demo: https://i.imgur.com/BTbqwUE.png12:41
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lelkneralfaroreplaceafill, cool yeah that sounds like the thing to then12:41
replaceafilllelkneralfaro, it's the same problem12:41
replaceafilllelkneralfaro, do you have a github account?12:41
lelkneralfaroreplaceafill, no, only gitlab12:41
replaceafilllelkneralfaro, please create one in github12:42
replaceafilllelkneralfaro, you'll need it to file agains their project12:42
lelkneralfaroreplaceafill, will do +112:42
replaceafilllelkneralfaro, thanks!12:42
replaceafilllelkneralfaro, and this is good for "relationships" with them12:42
replaceafilllelkneralfaro, let me know when you have your account12:42
replaceafilllelkneralfaro, to add you to the novawebdev organization in github12:43
replaceafilllelkneralfaro, that'll raise our profile with them :)12:43
lelkneralfaroreplaceafill, definitely. I'll probably get to it in a few hours. In the middle of something now I want to focus on12:43
replaceafilllelkneralfaro, sure, i'll let you be :P12:43
lelkneralfaroreplaceafill, also, unrelated. just to let you know. I won't be around from 1 PM tomorrow until Sunday morning. heading out camping in the mountains12:43
replaceafilllelkneralfaro, ah thanks for letting me know12:45
replaceafilllelkneralfaro, enjoy the moutains12:45
lelkneralfaroreplaceafill, thanks :)12:45
lelkneralfaroreplaceafill, hey do you have 10 - 15 minutes to answer some questions about creating user accounts in tendenci?13:17
replaceafilllelkneralfaro, give me 5 to pause, ok?13:18
replaceafilllelkneralfaro, i'm cutting something :)13:18
lelkneralfaroreplaceafill, yup. no rush13:18
replaceafilllelkneralfaro, ok, paused13:23
replaceafilllelkneralfaro, what's up?13:23
lelkneralfaroreplaceafill, so I'm trying to write up a helpfile on creating user accounts and I've gotten to something that I don't know13:23
lelkneralfaroreplaceafill, I only know how an administrator can create accounts themselves13:23
lelkneralfaroreplaceafill, but I don't know the process for having site visitors be able to create their own accounts via a form13:24
replaceafilllelkneralfaro, for membership purposes? or just for user account purposes?13:24
lelkneralfaroreplaceafill, I've explored the form option and I don't see that someone could add a password13:24
lelkneralfaroreplaceafill, just for account purposes13:24
replaceafilllelkneralfaro, ah ok13:24
replaceafilllelkneralfaro, no, it's not done through forms13:24
replaceafilllelkneralfaro, hold on13:24
replaceafilllelkneralfaro, i think what you want is "self registration"13:25
lelkneralfaroreplaceafill, exactly13:25
replaceafilllelkneralfaro, see the demo: https://demo.tendenci.com/accounts/login/13:25
replaceafilllelkneralfaro, if you're authenticated there, log out13:25
replaceafilllelkneralfaro, if not13:25
replaceafilllelkneralfaro, check the "Don't have an account" part13:25
replaceafilllelkneralfaro, that's currently tied to a site setting13:26
lelkneralfaroreplaceafill, yup that's what I'm talking about13:26
replaceafilllelkneralfaro, if you go to our site13:26
replaceafilllelkneralfaro, and check the login page13:26
replaceafilllelkneralfaro, you shouldn't see that option13:26
lelkneralfaroreplaceafill, nope it's not there13:26
replaceafilllelkneralfaro, because we have self registration turned off13:26
replaceafilllelkneralfaro, go into the demo as admin:admin13:26
lelkneralfaroreplaceafill, and i don't know how to create it if I wanted to13:26
lelkneralfaroreplaceafill, logged in in demo now13:27
replaceafilllelkneralfaro, in the megamenu13:27
replaceafilllelkneralfaro, the left icon with tendenci's logo take you to the dashboard13:27
replaceafilllelkneralfaro, in the dashboard there's a Settings gear13:27
replaceafilllelkneralfaro, those are the site settings13:27
replaceafilllelkneralfaro, let me know when you're there13:27
lelkneralfaroreplaceafill, I'm there13:28
replaceafilllelkneralfaro, so that's the full list13:28
replaceafilllelkneralfaro, and those control different parts13:28
replaceafilllelkneralfaro, for instance13:28
replaceafilllelkneralfaro, you could disable the Announcements apps13:28
replaceafilllelkneralfaro, etc13:28
replaceafilllelkneralfaro, the one you want is under Users 13:29
replaceafilllelkneralfaro, and it's called Self Registration13:29
lelkneralfaroreplaceafill, yup I see it13:29
replaceafilllelkneralfaro, turn it off13:29
replaceafilllelkneralfaro, log out13:29
replaceafilllelkneralfaro, and go to the login page again13:29
replaceafilllelkneralfaro, the "don't have account" part should be gone13:29
lelkneralfaroreplaceafill, yup it's gone13:29
lelkneralfaroreplaceafill, so same goes on our site. if I were to turn it on the "don13:30
replaceafilllelkneralfaro, yep13:30
lelkneralfaroreplaceafill, 't have an account part would appear13:30
lelkneralfaroreplaceafill, +113:30
lelkneralfaroreplaceafill, cool that's what I wanted to know13:30
lelkneralfaroreplaceafill, thanks!13:30
replaceafilllelkneralfaro, great13:30
replaceafilllelkneralfaro, np13:30
replaceafilllelkneralfaro, https://www.tendenci.com/help-files/interactive-user-guide/#second13:31
lelkneralfaroreplaceafill, there it is. I'll look through this file13:32
replaceafilllelkneralfaro, +113:32
lelkneralfaroACTION goes to get lunch be back in 45 minutes13:35
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lelkneralfaroreplaceafill, just created a github account my username is laealfaro14:45
replaceafilllelkneralfaro, just invited you to the org14:47
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replaceafillzOnny, what's your github username?14:48
lelkneralfaroreplaceafill, +114:48
mjsir911hey replaceafill, got any direction for setting up tendenci with SSL?14:49
mjsir911I think zOnny's username is edzon.quinteros?14:49
mjsir911oh my bad thats gitlab14:49
replaceafillmjsir911, nope, tried that14:49
zOnnyreplaceafill: EdzonQS14:49
replaceafillzOnny, sent you an invite too14:50
replaceafillmjsir911, it depends on the webserver?14:50
mjsir911just with like `python3 manage.py` for the novawebdev tendenci server?14:51
replaceafillmjsir911, what are you trying to do?14:51
replaceafillmjsir911, to server an instance under https?14:51
replaceafillserve*14:52
mjsir911edzon's test server running [here](https://novawebdev.novawebdevelopment.org:9000/) needs to serve under https, yes14:52
replaceafillmjsir911, that server has apache installed so you could add a new site14:52
replaceafillmjsir911, if you have access to the dns you could even set a different name for it14:53
replaceafillmjsir911, if you don't and want me to do it for you let me know14:53
mjsir911that's not necessary, this is extremely throw-away14:53
replaceafillmjsir911, zOnny do you want me to set it up for you?14:54
mjsir911I'm not sure how to set it up with apache, could you do the bare minimum?14:54
replaceafillmjsir911, do you know how to do it with ngnix?14:55
lelkneralfaromjsir911, just sent you an email with an update on the CanDo containerization project. Also the email has a question I could use help answering please take a look when you have the chance14:55
mjsir911thanks lelkneralfaro will do14:55
mjsir911replaceafill: I'm even less familiar there14:55
lelkneralfaromjsir911, np14:55
replaceafillmjsir911, kk14:55
replaceafillmjsir911, zOnny let me try then14:55
replaceafillmjsir911, zOnny what's the directory for your instance?14:56
mjsir911um /srv maybe?14:57
mjsir911/srv/NOVAWEBDEV/novawebdev14:58
replaceafillmjsir911, thanks14:58
replaceafillmjsir911, zOnny and the venv is /srv/NOVAWEBDEV/venv-novawebdev correct?14:59
zOnny replaceafill: yes, it is14:59
replaceafillmjsir911, zOnny this is for the pwa experiment, right?15:02
mjsir911correct15:02
replaceafillmjsir911, zOnny i'm setting pwa.novawebdevelopment.org15:02
replaceafillmjsir911, zOnny is that ok?15:02
mjsir911thats great thanks15:02
mjsir911thanks replaceafill I can connect15:04
replaceafillmjsir911, hm?15:04
mjsir911replacefill I'm getting aea at pwa.novawebdevelopment.org15:04
replaceafillmjsir911, not finished yet :D15:04
mjsir911oops sorry15:04
replaceafillmjsir911, that's just dns15:04
replaceafillmjsir911, give me a few mins, will ping when ready15:05
mjsir911k15:05
replaceafillmjsir911, zOnny http://pwa.novawebdevelopment.org15:09
lelkneralfaroreplaceafill, do I have to link to novawebdevelopment's github profile in any way when i file the issue with tendenci, or is the fact that I'm part of the novawebdevelopment group all that is needed for them to be aware that I'm coming from NWD?15:09
mjsir911thanks15:09
lelkneralfaroreplaceafill, if that makes sense15:09
replaceafillmjsir911, zOnny could you verify it's your instance?15:09
mjsir911oh nice a valid ssl certificate too15:09
replaceafillmjsir911, thannk you letsencrypt ;)15:10
replaceafilllelkneralfaro, no need, you can file it just with your user15:10
lelkneralfaroreplaceafill, +115:10
replaceafilllelkneralfaro, steps to replicate in the demo are good to write if possible15:10
lelkneralfaroreplaceafill, +115:11
mjsir911replaceafill: how do we view new changes made?15:11
replaceafillmjsir911, new changes made?15:12
replaceafillmjsir911, to update theme and stuff?15:12
replaceafillmjsir911, it's running under apache now15:12
mjsir911yes, zOnny edited homepage.html and i'm not seeing the changes15:12
replaceafillmjsir911, so you'll need to restart apache15:12
replaceafillmjsir911, hold on15:12
replaceafillmjsir911, let me try disabling template caching15:12
mjsir911that would be good15:13
replaceafillmjsir911, zOnny ok caching disabled, and set DEBUG=True15:13
mjsir911ok I'm seeing the change, let me make another one15:14
replaceafillmjsir911, zOnny you can still run the dev server with manage.py runserver in a port15:14
replaceafillmjsir911, zOnny i *think*15:14
replaceafillmjsir911, zOnny but that won't run under ssl ofc15:14
mjsir911replaceafill: changes are in realtime15:15
mjsir911thanks15:15
replaceafillmjsir911, np15:15
lelkneralfaromjsir911, let me know when you have a moment to chat about the email15:19
replaceafilllelkneralfaro, couple of examples https://github.com/tendenci/tendenci-base-theme/pull/6 https://github.com/tendenci/tendenci-base-theme/pull/715:19
replaceafilllelkneralfaro, those are pull requests, but you get the idea :)15:20
lelkneralfaroreplaceafill, yup, thanks15:20
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replaceafillACTION goes to get lunch, bb in ~4015:32
lelkneralfaromjsir911, don't mean to bug, just unsure if you got my last message. let me know when you have 5 minutes to chat about Glenda's email15:34
mjsir911Will do lelkneralfaro, will get to it in a bit15:44
lelkneralfaromjsir911, +1 I'll be around all evening no rush15:45
mjsir911lelkneralfaro: I'm ready to discuss. And you are completely correct, old way won't be helpful at all16:10
lelkneralfaromjsir911, cool. just have one more thought I wanted to run by you16:11
lelkneralfaromjsir911, if the project isn't approved quickly enough then I'm not sure what people will do complete the tasks they use CanDo for16:12
lelkneralfaromjsir911, my question is, if they install the old way, just so they can use the system temporarily until the containerization project is approved16:13
lelkneralfaromjsir911, is there an easy way for them to migrate that data?16:13
mjsir911I'll have to look into that, but I do believe they would be able to dump a  database or something and load it into the new system16:13
lelkneralfaromjsir911, cool let me know. I'm concerned they will be in a bad spot if they don't have something in place when school starts16:14
lelkneralfaromjsir911, that was it for me16:14
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zOnnymjsir911: are u around?18:08
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