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| replaceafill | jelkner, let me know when you have a chance to discuss nea4or payments | 10:58 |
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| lelkneralfaro | zOnny, you here? | 11:33 |
| zOnny | lelkneralfaro: yes ? | 11:35 |
| lelkneralfaro | zOnny, I sent you an email last night about the invoice. I'd like to process it this morning before I leave in a few hours but I don't have access to it. If I don't get to it this morning it will have to wait until I get back on Sunday | 11:36 |
| lelkneralfaro | zOnny, oh just got your email :) | 11:37 |
| zOnny | lelkneralfaro: can you try it again ? | 11:37 |
| lelkneralfaro | zOnny, yup that worked. I'll transfer the money now | 11:37 |
| zOnny | lelkneralfaro: thanks | 11:38 |
| lelkneralfaro | zOnny, one thing... | 11:40 |
| lelkneralfaro | zOnny, if I've got the numbers right there is only 220 left in the account from Paul. you've invoiced for 240. I'll send you the 220 now and if we are going to do more work with Paul we should probably start requesting more money | 11:41 |
| zOnny | lelkneralfaro: ok | 11:43 |
| zOnny | lelkneralfaro: He will be requesting more because he seems not interested about the Tendenci CMS at all | 11:44 |
| lelkneralfaro | zOnny, +1 | 11:44 |
| lelkneralfaro | zOnny, do you send him time logs by the way? just curious | 11:44 |
| zOnny | lelkneralfaro: no, I didn't | 11:46 |
| lelkneralfaro | zOnny, okay. that might be a good idea just so he is up to date. I'm not sure what his expectations are though... | 11:46 |
| lelkneralfaro | zOnny, one more thing lol... do you pay a fee when I send you money through paypal? | 11:46 |
| zOnny | lelkneralfaro: I can send him if you prefer | 11:47 |
| lelkneralfaro | zOnny, up to you. but if you are going to request more money it might be a good idea for him to see the work log | 11:47 |
| zOnny | lelkneralfaro: yes | 11:48 |
| lelkneralfaro | zOnny, okay, I'll send now and hopefully no fee. | 11:49 |
| zOnny | lelkneralfaro: I can crete a folder with all the time logs and send it to him | 11:49 |
| lelkneralfaro | zOnny, +1 | 11:49 |
| zOnny | lelkneralfaro: Do you want to me write about that he doesn't have money left in his account? | 11:51 |
| lelkneralfaro | zOnny, yes if you feel comfortable with that. you could include the time log there | 11:52 |
| zOnny | lelkneralfaro: on it | 11:52 |
| lelkneralfaro | zOnny, how much is the fee that you pay by the way? if you are busy and can't look it up now it's not urgent | 11:52 |
| zOnny | lelkneralfaro: checking | 11:53 |
| zOnny | lelkneralfaro: Fee | 11:54 |
| zOnny | -$3.78 | 11:55 |
| lelkneralfaro | zOnny, okay not too much. let me know if you still have to pay a fee on the money i just sent you | 11:55 |
| zOnny | lelkneralfaro: the last one doesn't include fee | 11:56 |
| lelkneralfaro | zOnny, cool. wish I had done it like that before :( | 11:56 |
| zOnny | lelkneralfaro: that was my fault | 11:57 |
| lelkneralfaro | zOnny, you sure, i think it may have been mine. in any case it wasn't much | 11:58 |
| zOnny | lelkneralfaro: np | 12:01 |
| zOnny | lelkneralfaro: thanks | 12:01 |
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| lelkneralfaro | mr_german, have a moment to chat. sorry I know you just signed on, but I'm rushing just a bit | 12:08 |
| mr_german | lelkneralfaro, sure | 12:09 |
| lelkneralfaro | mr_german, cool. I just sent you some emails from Elizabeth Guzman's office and I just wanted to make sure I can answer any questions you might have before I leave. Could you check out the emails within the next hour and ask me about anything you might want to clarify? | 12:11 |
| jelkner | lelkneralfaro, what did you mean by "transfer the money"? | 12:16 |
| jelkner | I think we have a serious problem here | 12:16 |
| lelkneralfaro | jelkner, what are you talking about? | 12:16 |
| jelkner | contributing to our financial stresses | 12:16 |
| jelkner | you wrote to zOnny at 11:31 "I'll transfer the money now" | 12:17 |
| lelkneralfaro | jelkner, yup. what's the problem you are concerned about? | 12:17 |
| jelkner | where did you transfer money? | 12:17 |
| lelkneralfaro | jelkner, to edzon | 12:17 |
| jelkner | that's what i'm talking about | 12:17 |
| lelkneralfaro | jelkner, what's the issue? | 12:17 |
| jelkner | i paid edzon for the month | 12:17 |
| mr_german | lelkneralfaro, yes, i just saw them | 12:18 |
| jelkner | any invoices coming in should be going into our common fund | 12:18 |
| mr_german | lelkneralfaro, cool | 12:18 |
| jelkner | it ma be lat in the game | 12:18 |
| lelkneralfaro | mr_german, +1 | 12:18 |
| jelkner | we should have had this conversation several months back | 12:18 |
| jelkner | if we are going to survive the next several months | 12:19 |
| lelkneralfaro | jelkner, not that late. it wouldn't be difficult to reorganize our funds if we had to | 12:19 |
| jelkner | we need to take shared responsibility for it | 12:19 |
| jelkner | we have too | 12:19 |
| jelkner | here's how | 12:19 |
| lelkneralfaro | jelkner, I've just been paying zOnny for his work on Paul's site, which I think we did discuss before | 12:19 |
| jelkner | each coop member working full time for us states what the minimum they need is to keep working full time | 12:19 |
| jelkner | we set about together coming up with that | 12:20 |
| lelkneralfaro | jelkner, +1 | 12:20 |
| jelkner | that includes replaceafill, zOnny, lelkneralfaro, and mr_german | 12:20 |
| lelkneralfaro | jelkner, it's a new problem by the way | 12:20 |
| jelkner | then when we invoice it goes into our coop income | 12:20 |
| jelkner | from which we can pay out | 12:20 |
| lelkneralfaro | jelkner, I think only in the past two months have we changed up our financial methods | 12:21 |
| jelkner | our financial methods have always been a mess | 12:21 |
| jelkner | we need to clean that up | 12:21 |
| jelkner | with ubunturouist and i just throwing in what we need and not thinking about it | 12:22 |
| jelkner | we have no plan to rationalize our income distribution | 12:22 |
| lelkneralfaro | jelkner, yeah it's difficult when we are paying out from the company account and your own, complicates the accounting | 12:22 |
| jelkner | as you know, that is coming to an end | 12:22 |
| jelkner | it isn't really | 12:22 |
| jelkner | you need to learn a wee bit more about accounting | 12:22 |
| lelkneralfaro | jelkner, lol | 12:23 |
| jelkner | your uncle and i were just talking about how easy it is last night | 12:23 |
| lelkneralfaro | jelkner, yeah I know it's not that hard about the arithmetic. it's just the coordination and communication that add the work | 12:23 |
| jelkner | a double entry accounting system always sums to zero. | 12:23 |
| lelkneralfaro | jelkner, I understand that | 12:23 |
| jelkner | the real issues is who gets what when | 12:24 |
| lelkneralfaro | jelkner, yes that's what i mea | 12:24 |
| lelkneralfaro | jelkner, *mean | 12:24 |
| jelkner | i don't understand why you say its been changing | 12:24 |
| lelkneralfaro | jelkner, I think up to this point we were okay with zOnny getting paid for the work he was billing for Paul's work | 12:24 |
| jelkner | ever since replaceafill, zOnny, and lelkneralfaro have been working full time | 12:24 |
| jelkner | we have been making sure they got their minimum monthly allowance | 12:25 |
| jelkner | the problem is you may have been giving them more than that based on income | 12:25 |
| jelkner | and not putting anything into the general fund | 12:25 |
| jelkner | we can't do that | 12:25 |
| jelkner | things are a bit complicated, i understand | 12:26 |
| jelkner | since ubuntourist has a long history of working as an independent contracter through the coop | 12:26 |
| lelkneralfaro | jelkner, possibly so, if oyu have been giving them their minimum monthly allowance I shouldn't have been transferring anything to zOnny | 12:26 |
| jelkner | +1 | 12:27 |
| jelkner | i'm taking care of zOnny | 12:27 |
| jelkner | zOnny now needs to work like hell to be able to invoice so we can have something in the general fund for the months ahead | 12:27 |
| jelkner | or else we are finished | 12:27 |
| jelkner | i'm glad you started the study group, lelkneralfaro | 12:28 |
| jelkner | we have so much to learn | 12:28 |
| zOnny | jelkner: lelkneralfaro it is clear | 12:28 |
| jelkner | that's why i cc everyone on these payroll discussions | 12:28 |
| jelkner | we need to take shared ownership of this process | 12:28 |
| jelkner | everyone of us needs to have at least a basic understanding of our financial situation | 12:29 |
| jelkner | so we can plan together to address it | 12:29 |
| jelkner | replaceafill, are you here? | 12:29 |
| mr_german | lelkneralfaro, can i send you my questions via gmail? | 12:29 |
| replaceafill | jelkner, yes | 12:29 |
| lelkneralfaro | mr_german, yes please | 12:29 |
| jelkner | can replaceafill and zOnny give me a delivery date on the first progressive web app? | 12:30 |
| jelkner | i'm about to start researching crowd funding | 12:30 |
| replaceafill | jelkner, i can't, maybe zOnny can | 12:30 |
| jelkner | so, i have a favor to ask you, replaceafill, as the lead developer | 12:30 |
| jelkner | it is fine to delegate this to zOnny, but at the end of the day, you need to make sure it is happening | 12:31 |
| jelkner | we can't have several weeks pass, find ourselves at the end of august, and have no progress | 12:31 |
| replaceafill | jelkner, cool, but i thought you were in charge of the US branch :) | 12:32 |
| replaceafill | jelkner, i'll need to set up periodic meetings then | 12:32 |
| jelkner | please correct me if you disagree, my friend | 12:32 |
| replaceafill | jelkner, i kind of | 12:32 |
| jelkner | but i see my responsibility as coming up with customers and funding | 12:32 |
| replaceafill | jelkner, but i understand your point | 12:32 |
| jelkner | that is about all i can handle | 12:32 |
| replaceafill | jelkner, so i'll do it | 12:32 |
| zOnny | jelkner: we have already started on it yesterday | 12:33 |
| replaceafill | jelkner, urgent things get in the way sometimes | 12:33 |
| jelkner | the development team is replaceafill, zOnny, mr_german, and sometimes mjsir911 (but not dependably) | 12:33 |
| zOnny | replaceafill: it that consern I should stop test the comments ? | 12:33 |
| zOnny | *concern | 12:33 |
| jelkner | we need to be thinking about our product | 12:34 |
| replaceafill | zOnny, you should | 12:34 |
| zOnny | replaceafill: ok | 12:34 |
| replaceafill | jelkner, we have a serious communication problem | 12:34 |
| jelkner | like i keep saying, we need to imagine ourselves sitting down with a prospective customer / funder / supporter | 12:34 |
| jelkner | and how, replaceafill, would you like to address that? | 12:34 |
| replaceafill | jelkner, shared responsability as you said | 12:35 |
| replaceafill | jelkner, but in the development side | 12:35 |
| jelkner | i agree with you that communication is key | 12:35 |
| replaceafill | jelkner, not just finances | 12:35 |
| replaceafill | jelkner, i'm not aware of zOnny or mr_german timings or ETAs | 12:35 |
| replaceafill | jelkner, they're not aware of mine | 12:35 |
| jelkner | so, i think abandoning our weekly meeting was a bad idea | 12:35 |
| replaceafill | jelkner, well, not exactly | 12:35 |
| replaceafill | jelkner, i'm talking more about structured planning | 12:36 |
| jelkner | but lelkneralfaro, who wanted to do that, should propose alternative ways to get communication up to speed | 12:36 |
| replaceafill | jelkner, again, from dev points of view | 12:36 |
| jelkner | just like with financing, replaceafill | 12:36 |
| jelkner | *everyone* needs to think about the big picture | 12:36 |
| jelkner | but not everyone can get into the details | 12:36 |
| jelkner | no time for that | 12:36 |
| replaceafill | jelkner, ok | 12:36 |
| replaceafill | jelkner, you know about sprints right? | 12:37 |
| replaceafill | jelkner, not the schooltool kind :D | 12:37 |
| jelkner | of course | 12:37 |
| replaceafill | jelkner, but the ones that run every period of time, usually 2 weeks or so | 12:37 |
| replaceafill | jelkner, with issues assigned, etc | 12:37 |
| replaceafill | jelkner, and you focus to get those issues solved no matter what | 12:37 |
| jelkner | you mean the agile dev cycle? | 12:37 |
| replaceafill | jelkner, correct | 12:37 |
| replaceafill | jelkner, that's a big problem for us | 12:38 |
| replaceafill | jelkner, because if a request comes | 12:38 |
| replaceafill | jelkner, we drop everything | 12:38 |
| replaceafill | jelkner, and work on that request | 12:38 |
| replaceafill | jelkner, the novalaciro rework should have been planned | 12:38 |
| replaceafill | jelkner, but *i* didn't know it was even coming | 12:38 |
| jelkner | perhaps the problem is the "we drop everything" | 12:38 |
| replaceafill | jelkner, see? | 12:38 |
| jelkner | it sucks | 12:38 |
| jelkner | but we are small and understaffed | 12:38 |
| replaceafill | jelkner, context switching is expensive | 12:39 |
| replaceafill | jelkner, sure | 12:39 |
| jelkner | we've got big problems with that we can't solve | 12:39 |
| replaceafill | jelkner, but that doesn't mean we shouldn't plan | 12:39 |
| replaceafill | jelkner, all of us | 12:39 |
| jelkner | if one of our few current projects comes with an unexpected request | 12:39 |
| jelkner | we have to handle it | 12:39 |
| replaceafill | jelkner, yes but who does it is part of the planning | 12:39 |
| jelkner | otherwise, we will have no one to say we are good to work with | 12:39 |
| replaceafill | jelkner, according to assigned work | 12:39 |
| replaceafill | jelkner, if zOnny is buried in tasks | 12:40 |
| replaceafill | jelkner, and mr_german is free | 12:40 |
| replaceafill | jelkner, and they're both able to handle it | 12:40 |
| replaceafill | jelkner, the answer seems simple | 12:40 |
| replaceafill | jelkner, as long as they can handle the context switch | 12:40 |
| jelkner | why don't replaceafill and mr_german take care of the product | 12:40 |
| jelkner | and zOnny take care of the customers? | 12:40 |
| jelkner | that means we need to take PWA away from zOnny | 12:41 |
| jelkner | and give it to replaceafill and mr_german | 12:41 |
| replaceafill | jelkner, that could be an alternative, but i'd like to have us all available for anything | 12:41 |
| jelkner | and take lee carter away from mr_german, and give it to zOnny | 12:41 |
| jelkner | i don't want to tell you how to organize it, replaceafill | 12:41 |
| replaceafill | jelkner, this week also showed that mr_german and i have ourselves our own communication problem | 12:41 |
| jelkner | but if you think it isn't working, you need to change it | 12:41 |
| replaceafill | jelkner, sure | 12:41 |
| jelkner | that's just my suggestion | 12:42 |
| replaceafill | jelkner, it's good we're having this conversation actually | 12:42 |
| replaceafill | jelkner, since we're all here :) | 12:42 |
| jelkner | +1 | 12:42 |
| replaceafill | jelkner, so i'd like to propose monday and friday meetings for developers | 12:42 |
| replaceafill | jelkner, and mr_german need to come forward and define *his* situation | 12:42 |
| replaceafill | jelkner, you take him as part of our group | 12:42 |
| replaceafill | jelkner, so do i | 12:42 |
| jelkner | that's my top goal in my trip to ES | 12:43 |
| replaceafill | jelkner, but then he disappears suddenly | 12:43 |
| replaceafill | jelkner, with no warning | 12:43 |
| replaceafill | jelkner, and that's a problem | 12:43 |
| jelkner | he and i will be spending a week together to talk about that | 12:43 |
| replaceafill | jelkner, a recurreing problem | 12:43 |
| replaceafill | jelkner, ok, i'll write an email | 12:44 |
| jelkner | so, zOnny, mr_german monday and friday dev meetings? | 12:44 |
| replaceafill | on monday we plan | 12:44 |
| replaceafill | take work | 12:44 |
| replaceafill | discuss doubts of that work | 12:44 |
| replaceafill | we are taking | 12:44 |
| zOnny | replaceafill: ok | 12:44 |
| jelkner | mr_german, are you here? | 12:44 |
| replaceafill | how much we can take, etc | 12:44 |
| replaceafill | on friday we evaluate how we did | 12:45 |
| replaceafill | what blocks we hit | 12:45 |
| replaceafill | what urgencies came | 12:45 |
| jelkner | keep in mind, replaceafill, that when we get an email from elizabeth's guzman's staffer that we need a change to her site | 12:45 |
| replaceafill | that made us deviate | 12:45 |
| jelkner | we need to do it | 12:45 |
| replaceafill | i don't know about that email jelkner | 12:45 |
| mr_german | yes | 12:45 |
| replaceafill | i undestand it | 12:45 |
| jelkner | that hast to be part of the planning | 12:45 |
| mr_german | jelkner, | 12:45 |
| replaceafill | jelkner, +1 | 12:45 |
| replaceafill | so on monday everyone informs everyone of these things | 12:46 |
| replaceafill | we shouldn't handle things individually anymore | 12:46 |
| mr_german | jelkner, sounds good | 12:46 |
| jelkner | i'd like to propose that zOnny be the first responder to unexpected things | 12:46 |
| replaceafill | otherwise i'm not aware of zOnny's meetings with Daniela from novalaciro | 12:46 |
| jelkner | the reason i request that is that the workflow goes easier | 12:46 |
| jelkner | lelkneralfaro and i receive the requests | 12:46 |
| zOnny | replaceafill: I have been started already this book to understand the basics http://shop.oreilly.com/product/0636920052067.do | 12:46 |
| replaceafill | jelkner, my former company had a firefighter role | 12:46 |
| jelkner | i see zOnny every day or can find him easily | 12:47 |
| jelkner | +1 | 12:47 |
| replaceafill | jelkner, that was the person dedicated to "urgendcies" | 12:47 |
| jelkner | zOnny the firefighter ;-) | 12:47 |
| replaceafill | :D | 12:47 |
| jelkner | we need to get him a hat | 12:47 |
| replaceafill | :)) | 12:47 |
| zOnny | I have been testing some scripts with nathan | 12:47 |
| replaceafill | so the firefighter role takes tasks at will | 12:47 |
| jelkner | +1 | 12:47 |
| replaceafill | depending on their availability | 12:48 |
| jelkner | whenever a fire breaks out | 12:48 |
| replaceafill | but making the group aware | 12:48 |
| jelkner | it is self-explanitory | 12:48 |
| zOnny | replaceafill: the book seems promising | 12:48 |
| replaceafill | zOnny, cool | 12:48 |
| jelkner | lelkneralfaro, we need to bill flint and novalacir | 12:48 |
| jelkner | o | 12:48 |
| replaceafill | jelkner, so i think with a little of energy we could set a process like this | 12:48 |
| jelkner | and put that in the general fund for next month | 12:48 |
| replaceafill | energy enthusiasm whatever is the work | 12:49 |
| jelkner | great, replaceafill, let's do it! | 12:49 |
| replaceafill | :) | 12:49 |
| replaceafill | cool | 12:49 |
| jelkner | lelkneralfaro, did you see that? | 12:49 |
| zOnny | lelkneralfaro: I am sending the email now to flint | 12:49 |
| replaceafill | jelkner, when is a good time to talk nea4or payments? | 12:50 |
| jelkner | you tell me | 12:50 |
| jelkner | i'm here at aelkner's all day today and tomorrow | 12:50 |
| zOnny | replaceafill: we made a good progress with marco yesterday | 12:50 |
| jelkner | we have evening plans | 12:50 |
| jelkner | but will be at work all day | 12:50 |
| zOnny | replaceafill: did you see our branch ? | 12:50 |
| lelkneralfaro | jelkner, +1 | 12:50 |
| replaceafill | zOnny, did you tell me about the branch? :) | 12:50 |
| lelkneralfaro | jelkner, free for a quick call? | 12:51 |
| zOnny | replaceafill: good question | 12:51 |
| jelkner | lelkneralfaro, +1 | 12:51 |
| replaceafill | zOnny, see that's my point :) | 12:51 |
| jelkner | lelkneralfaro, i can call you | 12:51 |
| lelkneralfaro | jelkner, cool please do | 12:51 |
| jelkner | when, now? | 12:51 |
| replaceafill | zOnny, we're not very organized | 12:51 |
| replaceafill | zOnny, you're still school free during august, right? | 12:52 |
| zOnny | replaceafill: yes | 12:52 |
| replaceafill | mr_german, still here? | 12:52 |
| mr_german | replaceafill, yes | 12:52 |
| replaceafill | zOnny, mr_german cool | 12:52 |
| replaceafill | zOnny, mr_german so are you ok with this "plan on monday" "verify on friday" idea? | 12:52 |
| replaceafill | zOnny, mr_german if we take a task for the "sprint" | 12:53 |
| replaceafill | zOnny, mr_german it's our responsability to get it done | 12:53 |
| replaceafill | zOnny, mr_german i've learned that it's best to take just a few things and get them done | 12:53 |
| replaceafill | zOnny, mr_german than taking a lot and get only to half of it | 12:54 |
| replaceafill | zOnny, mr_german that's the "shared responsibility" we were discussing | 12:54 |
| mr_german | 1+ | 12:54 |
| replaceafill | zOnny, mr_german and we take work | 12:54 |
| replaceafill | zOnny, mr_german we don't get work assigned | 12:54 |
| replaceafill | zOnny, mr_german i won't tell you what to work on | 12:55 |
| replaceafill | zOnny, mr_german you'll have to decide | 12:55 |
| replaceafill | zOnny, mr_german all i do is to set priorities on tasks | 12:55 |
| replaceafill | zOnny, mr_german and we start taking from the highest priority | 12:55 |
| replaceafill | zOnny, mr_german makes sense? | 12:55 |
| replaceafill | zOnny, mr_german so how about 11 am Eastern Time for our monday meetings? | 12:56 |
| replaceafill | mr_german, that's 9 am Salvadorean Tiem | 12:56 |
| replaceafill | zOnny, mr_german and it's our responsibility to be *ready* for those meetings | 12:57 |
| replaceafill | zOnny, mr_german with questions and things to report | 12:57 |
| zOnny | replaceafill: it works for me | 12:58 |
| replaceafill | cool, mr_german? | 12:58 |
| mr_german | replaceafill, it could be a 9:30? | 12:59 |
| replaceafill | zOnny, is 11:30 am ok for you? | 13:00 |
| zOnny | replaceafill: np | 13:00 |
| replaceafill | mr_german, 9:30 our time then | 13:00 |
| replaceafill | zOnny, mr_german remember, this will be mondays and fridays | 13:01 |
| replaceafill | zOnny, mr_german and we'll all report | 13:01 |
| replaceafill | zOnny, mr_german so everybody speaks at that meeting :) | 13:01 |
| replaceafill | unlike our old meetings :D | 13:01 |
| mr_german | replaceafill, so.. tomorrow | 13:01 |
| mr_german | do we have a meeting | 13:02 |
| mr_german | ? | 13:02 |
| zOnny | replaceafill: is tomorrow Friday ? uhhmmm | 13:02 |
| replaceafill | mr_german, zOnny no, we start on august 6th | 13:02 |
| mr_german | oh ok | 13:02 |
| replaceafill | zOnny, in the meantime keep going with the wpa work | 13:02 |
| zOnny | replaceafill: cool | 13:02 |
| replaceafill | mr_german, and i understand you have Elizabeth Guzman work | 13:02 |
| replaceafill | zOnny, mr_german i may contact you before monday to get some information about those tasks | 13:03 |
| replaceafill | zOnny, mr_german one problem we have | 13:03 |
| replaceafill | zOnny, mr_german is that our tasks are not defined anywhere | 13:03 |
| replaceafill | zOnny, mr_german so for example the Elizabeth Guzman request should land somewhere | 13:03 |
| replaceafill | zOnny, mr_german not being only in lelkneralfaro and mr_german emails | 13:03 |
| replaceafill | zOnny, mr_german same for novalaciro or paul flint requests | 13:04 |
| replaceafill | zOnny, mr_german any work you're aware needs to be done | 13:04 |
| replaceafill | zOnny, mr_german you need to file it somewhere | 13:04 |
| replaceafill | zOnny, mr_german the somewhere is still unclear | 13:04 |
| replaceafill | zOnny, mr_german but i think it'll be gitlab | 13:05 |
| replaceafill | zOnny, mr_german so get used to filing issues | 13:05 |
| replaceafill | zOnny, mr_german and write clearly for your fellow coworkers | 13:06 |
| replaceafill | zOnny, mr_german i think that's all i had | 13:06 |
| replaceafill | zOnny, mr_german any questions? | 13:06 |
| zOnny | replaceafill: I faced a long delay on Tuesday with Novalaciro, | 13:06 |
| replaceafill | zOnny, i know | 13:07 |
| zOnny | replaceafill: I didn't figure out which was my role there | 13:07 |
| zOnny | replaceafill: about the event | 13:07 |
| replaceafill | zOnny, i think it was unclear | 13:07 |
| replaceafill | zOnny, but we should work to make that not happen again | 13:07 |
| zOnny | replaceafill: correct | 13:08 |
| replaceafill | zOnny, suppose someone gives you a task | 13:08 |
| replaceafill | zOnny, and the task doesn't have a expected date | 13:08 |
| replaceafill | zOnny, or expected outcome | 13:08 |
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| replaceafill | zOnny, you *should not* take responsability for an unclear task | 13:08 |
| replaceafill | zOnny, and more importantly you shouldn't be creating unclear tasks | 13:09 |
| replaceafill | zOnny, like our sticky nav yesterday | 13:09 |
| replaceafill | zOnny, it's a good idea | 13:09 |
| replaceafill | zOnny, but you shouldn't even get to the coding phase without asking first | 13:09 |
| replaceafill | zOnny, experimenting is expensive | 13:09 |
| replaceafill | zOnny, and i understand you learn | 13:09 |
| replaceafill | zOnny, but if you share what you're trying to do before you start | 13:10 |
| replaceafill | zOnny, you'll spend less time and it's highly probable you'll get better outcome | 13:10 |
| zOnny | replaceafill: everything that I do is thinking in the improvement of our home website :( | 13:10 |
| replaceafill | zOnny, i understand that | 13:10 |
| replaceafill | zOnny, but plan better | 13:10 |
| replaceafill | zOnny, why do you ask for feedback *after tha fact*? | 13:11 |
| jelkner | ask the saying in carpentry goes, measure twice, cut once! | 13:11 |
| replaceafill | zOnny, because you want to please everyone, right? | 13:11 |
| replaceafill | zOnny, because you feel it shouldn't be just you deciding | 13:11 |
| zOnny | replaceafill: I am learning :( | 13:11 |
| replaceafill | zOnny, well, you could do that *before* too | 13:11 |
| replaceafill | zOnny, i know | 13:11 |
| replaceafill | zOnny, we all are | 13:12 |
| replaceafill | zOnny, i hit and fumble a lot, don't worry | 13:12 |
| replaceafill | zOnny, let's try this more organized approach | 13:12 |
| replaceafill | zOnny, and see where we get | 13:12 |
| replaceafill | as i was telling mr_german this past week | 13:13 |
| replaceafill | a serious communication problem is that it takes him too much time just to set up a Tendenci instance | 13:13 |
| replaceafill | that's not a technical problem | 13:13 |
| zOnny | replaceafill: it happens to me as well | 13:13 |
| replaceafill | because we've solve that | 13:13 |
| replaceafill | i don't understand why | 13:14 |
| replaceafill | it takes 5-10 minutes to the scripts to run | 13:14 |
| replaceafill | maybe you are not using them? | 13:14 |
| zOnny | replaceafill: with more practice :D | 13:14 |
| replaceafill | maybe they're still incomplete? | 13:14 |
| replaceafill | zOnny, sure | 13:14 |
| zOnny | replaceafill: ttyl | 13:15 |
| replaceafill | but the problem is that i'm not aware about it | 13:15 |
| replaceafill | zOnny, cool, ttyl | 13:15 |
| replaceafill | jelkner, can we talk now? | 13:15 |
| jelkner | yup, replaceafill | 13:15 |
| replaceafill | jelkner, so i've explored the payment options for nea4or | 13:16 |
| jelkner | ACTION is all ears | 13:16 |
| replaceafill | jelkner, we know how to pay through paypal now | 13:16 |
| replaceafill | jelkner, but i have a few logistic questions | 13:16 |
| jelkner | and amity has a paypal account | 13:16 |
| jelkner | setup for that purpose, yes? | 13:16 |
| replaceafill | jelkner, yes, that's the one i'm using for this | 13:16 |
| jelkner | cool | 13:17 |
| jelkner | what is your question? | 13:17 |
| replaceafill | jelkner, i'm thinking we switch the current membership type | 13:17 |
| replaceafill | jelkner, instead of creating a new one | 13:17 |
| jelkner | if you can move the data | 13:17 |
| jelkner | it won't matter to me, right? | 13:17 |
| replaceafill | jelkner, right | 13:18 |
| jelkner | i don't care what you do inside the system, as long as i can use it | 13:18 |
| replaceafill | jelkner, but that means we need to adjust things, like invoices | 13:18 |
| jelkner | so do whatever you deem necessary | 13:18 |
| jelkner | be ready, replaceafill, for some possible stories to come from our sunday night meeting | 13:19 |
| replaceafill | jelkner, so what expiration date should we set for people who paid you | 13:19 |
| jelkner | let's make june 30, 2019 | 13:19 |
| replaceafill | jelkner, i mean people who you listed in the spreadsheet | 13:19 |
| replaceafill | jelkner, cool | 13:19 |
| jelkner | or wait | 13:19 |
| jelkner | july 3, 2019 | 13:19 |
| replaceafill | jelkner, cool | 13:19 |
| jelkner | since nea ra meetings always include july 4 | 13:20 |
| jelkner | so we can run a july 4 to july 3 fiscal year ;-) | 13:20 |
| replaceafill | jelkner, do you want people to get their membership auto approved even if they didn't pay? | 13:20 |
| replaceafill | jelkner, or are you making payment mandatory? | 13:20 |
| jelkner | payment is mandatory | 13:20 |
| replaceafill | jelkner, cool | 13:20 |
| jelkner | if they don't pay the fee, they are not caucus members | 13:21 |
| replaceafill | jelkner, should we deactivate current users until they pay? | 13:21 |
| jelkner | so, that is the more interesting question | 13:21 |
| jelkner | i want to be able to easily email them asking them to sign-up | 13:21 |
| jelkner | so we want all previous members in our database, of course | 13:21 |
| jelkner | and we want easy access to communicating with them | 13:22 |
| jelkner | but they should not have "active member" status | 13:22 |
| jelkner | so we need some other status for them | 13:22 |
| jelkner | see where i'm going, replaceafill? | 13:22 |
| replaceafill | jelkner, what about a manually managed group? | 13:22 |
| replaceafill | jelkner, "payment pending members" | 13:23 |
| lelkneralfaro | mjsir911, you around? | 13:23 |
| jelkner | replaceafill, what happens to folks whose annual membership has lapsed | 13:23 |
| jelkner | ? | 13:23 |
| replaceafill | jelkner, current membership don't expire | 13:23 |
| replaceafill | jelkner, until we change them | 13:23 |
| jelkner | they will need to expire in this case | 13:23 |
| jelkner | membership is annual | 13:24 |
| replaceafill | jelkner, right | 13:24 |
| jelkner | july 3, all memberships expire, unless someone has signed up at the end of june | 13:24 |
| jelkner | we need to talk about that next spring | 13:24 |
| jelkner | so let's not worry about it now | 13:24 |
| jelkner | for now, i need two things: | 13:24 |
| replaceafill | jelkner, ok, but that can be handled manually on a per case basis | 13:25 |
| replaceafill | jelkner, you can adjust the dates on each profile | 13:25 |
| jelkner | 1. folks in the database who haven't paid this year need to be put in a status of "expired members" | 13:25 |
| jelkner | 2. folks who have paid this year should be "active members" | 13:25 |
| jelkner | and i will want to be able to easily contact (through a single email) all the expired members | 13:25 |
| jelkner | to ask them to renew | 13:26 |
| replaceafill | jelkner, great | 13:26 |
| replaceafill | jelkner, i'll need to investigate the renew part though | 13:26 |
| jelkner | cool | 13:26 |
| jelkner | anything else? | 13:26 |
| replaceafill | jelkner, i've tested with new members only | 13:26 |
| replaceafill | jelkner, no that's it for this, last thing | 13:26 |
| replaceafill | jelkner, it's about aea election | 13:26 |
| replaceafill | jelkner, we're discussing that tomorrow? | 13:26 |
| jelkner | +1 | 13:27 |
| replaceafill | jelkner, could we set a time for that? | 13:27 |
| lelkneralfaro | mr_german, got a sec? | 13:27 |
| replaceafill | jelkner, do you know when you'll have the necessary info? | 13:27 |
| jelkner | but it looks like there is only a single candiate for chair and a single candidate for treasurer | 13:27 |
| jelkner | i have the necessary info now, replaceafill | 13:27 |
| jelkner | unless a very likely last minute nomination comes in | 13:27 |
| replaceafill | jelkner, ah ok | 13:28 |
| jelkner | i can give it to you know and you can be 99% sure it will be correct | 13:28 |
| jelkner | or you can wait til tomorrow | 13:28 |
| replaceafill | jelkner, is today the deadline for nominating? | 13:28 |
| jelkner | yes | 13:28 |
| replaceafill | jelkner, got it | 13:28 |
| replaceafill | jelkner, sure, i can work on the nea4or use case in the meantime | 13:28 |
| mr_german | lelkneralfaro, tell me | 13:28 |
| replaceafill | jelkner, i'll look for you tomorrow morning | 13:28 |
| jelkner | +1 | 13:28 |
| jelkner | i'll be here | 13:28 |
| replaceafill | jelkner, thanks! | 13:28 |
| replaceafill | ACTION done | 13:29 |
| lelkneralfaro | mr_german, just wanted to check in one last time before I leave. I won't have internet until Sunday. So if you have any questions this is my last chance to answer | 13:29 |
| mr_german | lelkneralfaro, we are going to use the current design and layout? | 13:29 |
| lelkneralfaro | mr_german, the dev site one | 13:30 |
| mr_german | yes | 13:30 |
| lelkneralfaro | mr_german, yup that one | 13:30 |
| mr_german | cool | 13:30 |
| mr_german | the head shot photo where it should be? | 13:30 |
| lelkneralfaro | mr_german, good question, i had the same one. you'll have to ask Chris | 13:31 |
| lelkneralfaro | mr_german, he's a nice person | 13:31 |
| mr_german | cool | 13:31 |
| mr_german | I can create the donate button with css | 13:31 |
| lelkneralfaro | mr_german, cool | 13:31 |
| mr_german | 1+ | 13:31 |
| mr_german | lelkneralfaro, thats all for now | 13:31 |
| replaceafill | lelkneralfaro, mr_german what's the target date for publishing that site? | 13:32 |
| replaceafill | lelkneralfaro, mr_german we'll need a new server i pressume | 13:32 |
| replaceafill | lelkneralfaro, mr_german and i'll need to do that | 13:32 |
| lelkneralfaro | mr_german, just to highlight the points, Elizabeth wants a timeline as well. And putting the Gala event up is a priority for them | 13:33 |
| lelkneralfaro | mr_german, sorry if my repeating is annoying. just want to make sure | 13:33 |
| mr_german | do not worry | 13:34 |
| mjsir911 | lelkneralfaro: im around | 13:35 |
| lelkneralfaro | mjsir911, any answer to the CanDo data dump question? | 13:36 |
| mr_german | replaceafill, I dont sure. | 13:36 |
| mr_german | i think ASAP | 13:37 |
| replaceafill | mr_german, what's the current dev site for Elizabeth Guzman? | 13:37 |
| lelkneralfaro | replaceafill, dev.elizabethguzmanforvirginia.com | 13:38 |
| mr_german | http://dev.elizabethguzmanforvirginia.com/ | 13:38 |
| replaceafill | lelkneralfaro, mr_german are we doing this Tendenci? | 13:38 |
| mr_german | no | 13:39 |
| mr_german | flask | 13:39 |
| replaceafill | lelkneralfaro, mr_german why? | 13:39 |
| lelkneralfaro | replaceafill, we started the project back in February | 13:39 |
| mr_german | yep | 13:39 |
| lelkneralfaro | replaceafill, they are returning to it now | 13:39 |
| lelkneralfaro | replaceafill, after 6 months pause | 13:40 |
| replaceafill | lelkneralfaro, mr_german got it, are we going to use Tendenci for it? | 13:40 |
| lelkneralfaro | replaceafill, I was considering that today. depends on how much work | 13:40 |
| lelkneralfaro | replaceafill, I'm sure they would enjoy the CMS | 13:40 |
| lelkneralfaro | replaceafill, but a timeline/payment details would have to be worked out | 13:41 |
| replaceafill | lelkneralfaro, i would enjoy being able to throw zOnny in | 13:41 |
| replaceafill | lelkneralfaro, if necessary | 13:41 |
| lelkneralfaro | replaceafill, a new conversation started... not necessarily a problem, just a new route | 13:41 |
| lelkneralfaro | replaceafill, +1 good point | 13:41 |
| lelkneralfaro | replaceafill, well i've got 30 minutes if we want to make a decision now | 13:41 |
| replaceafill | mr_german, how long do you think it'd take you to Tendenci that? | 13:42 |
| mr_german | replaceafill, it will take half of the time | 13:42 |
| replaceafill | mr_german, how many hours is that? | 13:42 |
| replaceafill | zOnny, are you around? | 13:43 |
| replaceafill | mr_german, lelkneralfaro i don't want to have "snowflake" sites anymore | 13:43 |
| lelkneralfaro | replaceafill, +1 | 13:43 |
| mr_german | replaceafill, I don't really know, I 'm bad calculating the time :( | 13:43 |
| replaceafill | mr_german, guess | 13:44 |
| replaceafill | mr_german, we need a number | 13:44 |
| replaceafill | mr_german, a number of hours | 13:44 |
| mr_german | 15 hours it too much? | 13:44 |
| replaceafill | mr_german, could you explain the 15 hours? | 13:44 |
| replaceafill | mr_german, all pages are using the same layout, right? | 13:45 |
| mjsir911 | oh lelkneralfaro,the migration plans?, I can definitely come up with a script / write up instructions to migrate to the new instance | 13:45 |
| replaceafill | mr_german, two sidebars on the sides, content in the middle | 13:45 |
| mr_german | yeah | 13:45 |
| replaceafill | mr_german, as far as i can see there are only *four* pages | 13:45 |
| replaceafill | mr_german, currently | 13:45 |
| mr_german | just need to create a new template | 13:46 |
| replaceafill | mr_german, would that take you 15 hours? | 13:46 |
| mr_german | replaceafill, maybe 10 | 13:46 |
| lelkneralfaro | mjsir911, cool that's what i needed to know | 13:46 |
| lelkneralfaro | mjsir911, thanks | 13:46 |
| replaceafill | lelkneralfaro, mr_german what's so different in elizabeth's dev site to this layout: https://ourrevolutionmd.novawebdevelopment.org/ | 13:47 |
| replaceafill | lelkneralfaro, mr_german and i'm just referring to the navbar + big picture | 13:47 |
| lelkneralfaro | replaceafill, nothing significantly different | 13:49 |
| replaceafill | lelkneralfaro, mr_german and that's already tendenci | 13:49 |
| lelkneralfaro | replaceafill, I don't know if they would get picky about having the navbar be centered. | 13:49 |
| replaceafill | lelkneralfaro, i don't think that would be a problem for mr_german skills | 13:49 |
| lelkneralfaro | replaceafill, +1 | 13:50 |
| replaceafill | lelkneralfaro, i mean center align the navbar | 13:50 |
| mr_german | lelkneralfaro, np | 13:50 |
| mr_german | ;) | 13:50 |
| lelkneralfaro | mr_german, :) | 13:50 |
| replaceafill | mr_german, is this a 10 hour job? | 13:50 |
| replaceafill | mr_german, i'm not .... | 13:50 |
| replaceafill | mr_german, regateandote | 13:51 |
| replaceafill | mr_german, bargaining (That's the word i think) | 13:51 |
| lelkneralfaro | replaceafill, mr_german easy to keep the social media feeds on the side? they like that | 13:51 |
| lelkneralfaro | replaceafill, haggling is more used | 13:51 |
| replaceafill | lelkneralfaro, again, i don't want to be an a******, but that's cake for mr_german skills | 13:51 |
| replaceafill | lelkneralfaro, ah, thanks! | 13:52 |
| lelkneralfaro | replaceafill, haggling is like trying to drop the price | 13:52 |
| replaceafill | ah | 13:52 |
| lelkneralfaro | replaceafill, is that what you meant? | 13:52 |
| replaceafill | i just want mr_german to realize he's done this before | 13:52 |
| replaceafill | lelkneralfaro, yes | 13:52 |
| replaceafill | using tendenci | 13:52 |
| replaceafill | if he's going to put work on this | 13:53 |
| lelkneralfaro | replaceafill, yes your not being an a********, I'm just not familiar with how easy it is to theme with tendenci. My own ignorance leads to the silly questions | 13:53 |
| replaceafill | i think it should be on tendenci | 13:53 |
| replaceafill | lelkneralfaro, :D | 13:53 |
| lelkneralfaro | replaceafill, I agree tendenci sounds like the way to go | 13:53 |
| lelkneralfaro | replaceafill, they can use the features or not, but having them is definitely a plus | 13:53 |
| lelkneralfaro | replaceafill, and then zOnny will be able to jump in and work on it as well | 13:53 |
| replaceafill | lelkneralfaro, and makes everything simple for us | 13:54 |
| replaceafill | lelkneralfaro, yep | 13:54 |
| lelkneralfaro | replaceafill, +1 | 13:54 |
| mr_german | replaceafill, I can use fluid container to add two sidebars to the new template | 13:54 |
| replaceafill | mr_german, lelkneralfaro have we telled them a target date for the expected changes? | 13:54 |
| lelkneralfaro | replaceafill, nope | 13:55 |
| lelkneralfaro | replaceafill, and they want to know that | 13:55 |
| lelkneralfaro | replaceafill, but they just emailed this morning | 13:55 |
| lelkneralfaro | replaceafill, I told them mr_german would get back to him | 13:55 |
| lelkneralfaro | replaceafill, since I will be away | 13:55 |
| replaceafill | lelkneralfaro, i undestand | 13:55 |
| replaceafill | mr_german, are you able to work on this the next couple of days? | 13:56 |
| mr_german | replaceafill, yes. | 13:56 |
| replaceafill | mr_german, i can help you set up theme branches and servers | 13:57 |
| replaceafill | mr_german, so you can use tendenci | 13:57 |
| mr_german | replaceafill, that would very good | 13:57 |
| mr_german | :) | 13:57 |
| mr_german | would be* | 13:57 |
| lelkneralfaro | replaceafill, mr_german sounds like things are settled, I'm going to cut out now | 13:57 |
| replaceafill | mr_german, cool, let's do that then | 13:57 |
| replaceafill | lelkneralfaro, thank you! | 13:57 |
| mr_german | lelkneralfaro, thx again! | 13:57 |
| lelkneralfaro | replaceafill, mr_german thank you both! have a good time :) | 13:58 |
| replaceafill | mr_german, so, let's start with the branches | 13:58 |
| replaceafill | mr_german, usual procedure | 13:58 |
| replaceafill | mr_german, check out the base theme and create elizabethguzman_dev and elizabethguzman_prod branches | 14:00 |
| replaceafill | mr_german, you should have tendenci7 instance so reuse that instead of trying to create new ones | 14:01 |
| replaceafill | mr_german, and if you need to create new ones just use the maketendenci7.sh script | 14:01 |
| replaceafill | mr_german, it shouldn't take long to run | 14:01 |
| mr_german | yes | 14:01 |
| mr_german | ik | 14:01 |
| replaceafill | mr_german, not 5 hours ;) | 14:01 |
| replaceafill | mr_german, and then work locally for now | 14:02 |
| replaceafill | mr_german, honestly i don't see anything "specially" complicated in that layout | 14:02 |
| replaceafill | mr_german, that wouldn't take you 4 hours | 14:02 |
| replaceafill | mr_german, i mean, you're the one working on ORMD | 14:02 |
| replaceafill | mr_german, if you need to email someone, do it | 14:03 |
| replaceafill | mr_german, and give realistic dates based on tendenci | 14:04 |
| mr_german | ok | 14:04 |
| replaceafill | mr_german, let me know if you need something, otherwise let's touch base tomorrow | 14:04 |
| mr_german | cool | 14:08 |
| replaceafill | mr_german, could you do me a favor | 14:08 |
| replaceafill | mr_german, before you create the branches | 14:08 |
| mr_german | yes? | 14:08 |
| replaceafill | mr_german, could you adjust the .gitlab-ci.yml file | 14:08 |
| replaceafill | mr_german, to include both branches | 14:08 |
| replaceafill | mr_german, you can just copy paste the last two lfor_dev and lfor_prod entries | 14:09 |
| replaceafill | mr_german, and adjust them for "elizabethguzman" | 14:09 |
| mr_german | replaceafill, ok, I'll do that | 14:10 |
| replaceafill | mr_german, cool, thanks | 14:10 |
| zOnny | replaceafill: Hello? | 14:17 |
| replaceafill | zOnny, hey | 14:19 |
| replaceafill | zOnny, never mind, the discussion is over :) | 14:19 |
| replaceafill | zOnny, carry on! ;) | 14:20 |
| zOnny | replaceafill: coll | 14:21 |
| zOnny | *cool | 14:21 |
| replaceafill | zOnny, i was just curious about your estimate for this design http://dev.elizabethguzmanforvirginia.com/ | 14:21 |
| zOnny | replaceafill: it depends | 14:22 |
| replaceafill | zOnny, that's always the answer i like :) | 14:22 |
| zOnny | replaceafill: does the cutomer have the example | 14:23 |
| replaceafill | zOnny, that site is the example | 14:23 |
| replaceafill | zOnny, the customer would like to replicate it in tendenci | 14:23 |
| zOnny | replaceafill: I mean the example of how they have in mind | 14:24 |
| replaceafill | zOnny, that site is the example of what they have in mind... | 14:24 |
| zOnny | replaceafill: drawed in a paper | 14:24 |
| replaceafill | zOnny, we just want to port it from static to tendenci | 14:24 |
| zOnny | replaceafill: *drawn | 14:25 |
| zOnny | replaceafill: ah | 14:25 |
| zOnny | My estimate is 6hours | 14:27 |
| replaceafill | zOnny, could you break it down? | 14:27 |
| zOnny | replaceafill: uhhmmmmm what you mean ? | 14:29 |
| replaceafill | zOnny, if someone gives you a task and you estimate 6 hours | 14:29 |
| replaceafill | zOnny, how would you distribute those 6 hours? | 14:29 |
| replaceafill | zOnny, that's called breaking down | 14:29 |
| replaceafill | zOnny, 1 hour = set up dev environment, branches, instance, script, etc etc | 14:30 |
| replaceafill | zOnny, 1 hour = adjust default slider | 14:30 |
| replaceafill | zOnny, 1 hour = adjust navbar | 14:30 |
| replaceafill | zOnny, that's breaking down | 14:30 |
| zOnny | replaceafill: 2 hours on setting up tendenci instance | 14:31 |
| replaceafill | zOnny, ouch | 14:31 |
| replaceafill | zOnny, don't you have one to spare? :) | 14:31 |
| replaceafill | zOnny, "oh sure, i could reuse novalaciro's" | 14:32 |
| replaceafill | zOnny, buff, 2 hours saved! | 14:32 |
| replaceafill | zOnny, new estimate 4 hours :) | 14:32 |
| zOnny | replaceafill: I have not done yet | 14:32 |
| replaceafill | zOnny, but you see, this is the point of breaking down an estimate | 14:33 |
| zOnny | well yep 4 hours can be possible | 14:33 |
| replaceafill | zOnny, it helps you realize that maybe it's worth for me to set up a shared vm | 14:34 |
| zOnny | 2 hours testing :D | 14:34 |
| replaceafill | zOnny, anyway, good exercise | 14:35 |
| replaceafill | zOnny, try to always break down estimates | 14:35 |
| zOnny | replaceafill: good practice on it | 14:35 |
| replaceafill | zOnny, otherwise you're selling your soul to the devil | 14:35 |
| replaceafill | :) | 14:35 |
| replaceafill | kk | 14:35 |
| replaceafill | ACTION goes back to work | 14:35 |
| zOnny | replaceafill: to be honest I hate the migrations part of tendenci7 :( | 14:37 |
| replaceafill | zOnny, +1 | 14:38 |
| zOnny | replaceafill: good to see that they changed it in tendenci11 :D | 14:38 |
| replaceafill | zOnny, indeed | 14:39 |
| zOnny | replaceafill: ttyl | 14:39 |
| replaceafill | zOnny, o/ | 14:39 |
| replaceafill | ACTION goes to get lunch, bb in ~40 | 15:06 |
| replaceafill | ACTION is back | 15:31 |
| zOnny | replaceafill: one question | 15:32 |
| replaceafill | zOnny, yes? | 15:33 |
| zOnny | are u familiar with node.js ? | 15:33 |
| replaceafill | zOnny, not a lot | 15:33 |
| zOnny | replaceafill: np | 15:34 |
| replaceafill | zOnny, are you using it for something? | 15:34 |
| replaceafill | mr_german, are you here? | 15:34 |
| mr_german | replaceafill, yes | 15:35 |
| replaceafill | mr_german, mind if i create the elizabethguzman branches? | 15:35 |
| zOnny | replaceafill: I am kind of familiar in my local server | 15:35 |
| replaceafill | mr_german, i have the testing instance almost ready | 15:35 |
| replaceafill | mr_german, and would like to finish the setup now | 15:35 |
| mr_german | replaceafill, ok, do it | 15:36 |
| replaceafill | mr_german, kk, thanks | 15:36 |
| replaceafill | mr_german, branches and dev CI in place: https://elizabethguzman.novawebdevelopment.org/ | 15:48 |
| mr_german | replaceafill, i think you need to to change tendenci2018 to nova | 15:49 |
| mr_german | replaceafill, base.css doesn't work | 15:49 |
| replaceafill | mr_german, what do you mean? | 15:50 |
| mr_german | replaceafill, look the logo and the homepage | 15:50 |
| mr_german | base.css - doesn't work | 15:50 |
| replaceafill | https://elizabethguzman.novawebdevelopment.org/themes/nova/media/css/base.css | 15:51 |
| replaceafill | mr_german, but i think i understand what you mean | 15:51 |
| replaceafill | mr_german, it's the layout that is wrong | 15:52 |
| replaceafill | mr_german, it's because the 2018 boxes haven't been loaded | 15:54 |
| replaceafill | mr_german, but i don't think you'll need any of this, right? | 15:54 |
| replaceafill | mr_german, compare | 15:55 |
| replaceafill | https://novawebdev.novawebdevelopment.org/admin/boxes/box/1/ | 15:55 |
| replaceafill | https://elizabethguzman.novawebdevelopment.org/admin/boxes/box/1/?next=/ | 15:55 |
| mr_german | yes | 15:58 |
| replaceafill | mr_german, so you're good, right? | 15:58 |
| replaceafill | mr_german, i'll set up the production server once you have a basic design | 15:59 |
| mr_german | mm no, i think you don't know what I mean | 15:59 |
| mr_german | si se da cuenta en la homepage el logo no tiene estilo del base.css y las cajas tampoco | 15:59 |
| mr_german | eso se arreglaba | 16:00 |
| mr_german | haciendo lo del | 16:00 |
| mr_german | python shell | 16:00 |
| replaceafill | mr_german, por que decis que el logo no tiene estilo? | 16:00 |
| mr_german | pq se ve grande y fuera del header | 16:00 |
| replaceafill | mr_german, es por la caja! | 16:00 |
| replaceafill | mr_german, dale click derecho y mira los estilos | 16:01 |
| replaceafill | mr_german, esto lo esta heredando de base.css: | 16:01 |
| replaceafill | p, li { | 16:01 |
| replaceafill | font-size: 16px; | 16:01 |
| replaceafill | } | 16:01 |
| mr_german | pero eso no era problema porque yo lo pude arreglar | 16:01 |
| mr_german | aun siendo el 2018 | 16:01 |
| mr_german | haciendole eso | 16:01 |
| replaceafill | mr_german, mejor te llamo | 16:02 |
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| jelkner | ACTION signs off until tomorrow morning | 17:34 |
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