IRC log of #novawebdev for Friday, 2018-08-03

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replaceafillgood morning jelkner10:35
replaceafillACTION goes to get coffee, bb in ~1510:46
replaceafillACTION is back10:59
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zOnnyhey replaceafill 11:13
replaceafillhello zOnny11:13
zOnnyreplaceafill: busy ?11:14
replaceafillzOnny, a bit, what do you need?11:15
zOnnyreplaceafill: once you get chance 11:15
zOnnyreplaceafill: Is this wrong ?11:15
zOnnyreplaceafill: https://paste.pound-python.org/show/V0iNbRFeYjNXA92Eztgh/11:15
replaceafillzOnny, what's the content of manifest.js?11:16
replaceafillon11:17
zOnnyreplaceafill: hold on11:19
zOnnyreplaceafill: https://paste.pound-python.org/show/yjvkxyni6xrSuzo9lZ7S/11:20
replaceafillzOnny, you're mixing concepts here11:20
replaceafillzOnny, manage.py loaddata takes json files representing django fixtures11:20
replaceafillzOnny, this is not a django fixture11:20
zOnnyreplaceafill: ah 11:20
zOnnyreplaceafill: makes sense11:21
replaceafillzOnny, what are you trying to do?11:21
zOnnyreplaceafill: "src" doesn't respond  11:21
replaceafillzOnny, src?11:21
zOnnyreplaceafill: is this in the wrong folder ?11:21
replaceafillzOnny, respond?11:22
replaceafillzOnny, you need to be more clear with your explanation11:22
replaceafillzOnny, i'm not aware of the context of this11:22
replaceafillzOnny, so you need to bring me up to speed11:22
zOnnyreplaceafill: "src": "/themes/nova/media/img/icon48.png"11:22
replaceafillzOnny, what's src and why it should "respond"?11:22
replaceafillzOnny, if you visit that file url, does it work?11:23
zOnnyreplaceafill: replaceafill https://pwa.novawebdevelopment.org/themes/nova/media/img/nfavicon.png11:23
replaceafillzOnny, but that's not the file11:23
replaceafillzOnny, i assume you meant this https://pwa.novawebdevelopment.org/themes/nova/media/img/icon48.png11:24
replaceafillzOnny, and yes, it's in the theme11:24
zOnnyreplaceafill: Oops11:24
zOnnyreplaceafill: https://pwa.novawebdevelopment.org/themes/nova/media/img/icon192.png11:25
replaceafillzOnny, so what do you mean by it doesnt respond?11:25
zOnnyreplaceafill: I want to make sure that the path in this files is correct11:25
zOnnyreplaceafill: it doesn't display the icon in the mobile screen11:26
replaceafillzOnny, but that's not problem with the path11:26
zOnnyreplaceafill: probably I am missing something else11:26
replaceafillzOnny, i think so11:26
replaceafillzOnny, do you get 404s when you try?11:26
zOnnyreplaceafill: nope11:27
replaceafillzOnny, how do you try?11:27
replaceafill    <link rel="manifest" href="/themes/nova/media/manifest.json">11:28
replaceafillzOnny, that's ^ the magic line, right?11:28
zOnnyreplaceafill: once you get the site in you mobile screen 11:28
zOnnyit should display the icons 11:28
zOnnyreplaceafill: correct11:28
replaceafillzOnny, https://developer.mozilla.org/en-US/docs/Web/Manifest#start_url11:29
replaceafillzOnny, you should ask Marco11:29
zOnnyreplaceafill: no worries11:29
replaceafillzOnny, but i'm guessing start_url is wrong11:29
zOnnyreplaceafill: correct11:29
replaceafillzOnny, "Note that this has to be a relative URL"11:30
replaceafillzOnny, yours is not a relative URL11:30
zOnnyI will test this out11:30
replaceafill  "start_url": "/",11:30
zOnnyreplaceafill: :D11:30
replaceafillzOnny, cool, good luck, sorry but i'm not familiar yet with this ****11:30
zOnnyreplaceafill: np11:30
zOnnyreplaceafill: thanks for u time on it11:30
zOnnyttyl11:31
replaceafillzOnny, i'm planning to send you and mr_german a break down exercise11:31
replaceafillzOnny, try to get it done by tomorrow, ok?11:31
replaceafillzOnny, also11:31
replaceafillzOnny, i'll need you to provide status on these pwa stories11:31
replaceafillzOnny, you're the only one of the team aware of them11:31
zOnnyreplaceafill: I am reliying on the book11:32
zOnny*reying11:32
replaceafillzOnny, what things are left11:32
zOnny*relying11:32
replaceafillzOnny, why don't you ask Marco?11:32
replaceafillzOnny, isn't he supposed to help you with this?11:32
zOnnyreplaceafill: I will show up some of these days11:33
replaceafillzOnny, what do you mean?11:33
zOnnyreplaceafill: He is busy on this summer classes11:33
zOnny*his11:33
replaceafillzOnny, ah ok11:33
replaceafillzOnny, so you're doing this on your own?11:33
zOnnyreplaceafill: It is learning 11:34
replaceafillzOnny, problem is you can't estimate how long it'll take11:34
replaceafillzOnny, because you're not aware of what's left11:34
replaceafillzOnny, you haven't broken down the whole story11:35
zOnnyreplaceafill: right11:35
replaceafillzOnny, what if the book takes you to places we don't really need11:35
zOnnyreplaceafill: ok11:35
replaceafillzOnny, ok, we'll see11:36
replaceafillzOnny, ttyl11:36
zOnnyreplaceafill: we started this together but I want to get more progress on it11:39
replaceafillzOnny, i understand, but you realize it's poor planning, right?11:40
replaceafillzOnny, even if you spend the next 3 days working 24 hours on it11:40
replaceafillzOnny, and you get it done11:40
replaceafillzOnny, your two PWA stories are the most important at the moment11:40
replaceafillzOnny, and we can't answer "when will it be ready?"11:41
zOnnyreplaceafill: we know that11:41
replaceafillzOnny, that uncertainty factor is what we need to get rid of in our work11:41
replaceafillzOnny, same happens to my work11:41
replaceafillzOnny, if you get any questions through gitlab please answer them asap, ok?11:42
replaceafillzOnny, i'm planning next week sprint11:42
replaceafillzOnny, and i need to understand where we are11:43
zOnnyreplaceafill: ok11:44
jelknerreplaceafill, ping11:46
jelkneremail just sent11:46
replaceafilljelkner, pong11:46
replaceafilljelkner, [provided voting instructions here] :D11:47
replaceafilljelkner, come on man! we have docs now!11:47
replaceafilljelkner, creating the election11:47
jelknerso the instructions just point to the docs ;-)11:47
jelknereasy peasy11:47
jelknerpeople are busy, replaceafill 11:48
jelknerif things aren't super easy11:48
jelknerthey won't vote11:48
jelknerthat's our challenge11:48
jelkneri'm assuming people reading this on their phone11:48
replaceafilljelkner, don't you need some kind of date in this election title11:48
replaceafilljelkner, like 2018 or something?11:49
jelknerSY 2018-1911:49
jelknernot to distract you, replaceafill 11:49
jelknerbut i tried to join the #techwontbuildit channel micky mentioned and there was nobody on it11:50
replaceafilljelkner, was she referring to a IRC channel?11:50
jelkneri don't know?11:50
jelknerperhaps not11:50
jelkneri'll email her back11:51
replaceafilljelkner, +111:51
replaceafillah damn, we don't really have a doc to vote on an election11:54
replaceafillhttps://gitlab.com/novawebdevelopment/novawebdev-ams/issues/3511:54
jelkneractually, ubunturist already knows what it is, and put it in the news section of our website11:57
jelkner(i was talking about #techwontbuildit11:58
jelkner)11:58
jelkneri emailed instructions in the past11:58
jelknerreplaceafill, 11:58
replaceafilljelkner, ah11:58
replaceafilljelkner, should i "sign" the election email like this:11:59
replaceafillJeff Elkner11:59
replaceafillAEA-PAC Chair11:59
replaceafill?11:59
jelkner+111:59
replaceafilljelkner, kk11:59
jelkneri just pasted the instructions from the email into the issue discussion, replaceafill 12:02
replaceafilljelkner, great, thanks12:03
replaceafilljelkner, election email sent12:07
jelknerwow, it arrived, but in my spam folder :-(12:09
jelkneranyway, i found it12:09
jelkneri'll follow up with an email myself12:09
replaceafilljelkner, unfortunately i don't think we'll ever figure out mass mailing12:10
jelkneri'm thinking mass texting will be even more important12:11
jelknerbut don't say never12:11
replaceafillnever!12:11
replaceafill:P12:11
jelknerif we are lucky enough to make, we will have to12:11
replaceafillthere i just said it12:11
jelknerlol12:11
replaceafilljelkner, i found a way to send renewal reminders from tendenci like the ones we need for nea4or12:13
replaceafilljelkner, https://www.tendenci.com/help-files/member-notices-templates/12:13
replaceafilljelkner, we should those instead of us manually managing expired members12:14
replaceafilljelkner, and we should extend the mailing list app to handle expired members, again instead of us doing it manually12:15
jelkneri voted12:15
jelknerthat sounds great, replaceafill 12:16
replaceafillhttps://gitlab.com/novawebdevelopment/tendenci-mailman/issues/312:19
replaceafilljelkner, i talked to nrcerna last night and we have another "invoicing problem"12:22
jelknerwhich is?12:22
replaceafilljelkner, she's been working for Paul and not invoicing him12:22
jelknerouch!12:22
replaceafilljelkner, it's about 20 hours total12:22
replaceafilljelkner, since may *i think*12:22
replaceafilljelkner, Paul also sent her a "thank you" bonus for her work12:23
jelknerlelkneralfaro is supposed to talk to you about this12:23
replaceafilljelkner, ok, i'll send an email12:24
jelkner+112:24
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zOnnymr_german: r u around ?14:14
mr_germanzOnny, yes?14:15
zOnnymr_german: busy ?14:15
mr_germankind of14:15
mr_germanwhat do you need?14:15
mr_german:)14:15
zOnnymr_german: what kind of phone Do you have14:16
mr_germanhuawei14:16
zOnnymr_german: what is that ?14:17
zOnnyit is running android ?14:17
mr_germanyep14:19
zOnnymr_german: I just used the emulator https://appetize.io/demo?device=nexus5&scale=75&orientation=portrait&osVersion=7.14:26
mr_germanto test the sites?14:27
mr_germanzOnny, 14:27
zOnnymr_german: yep14:27
zOnnymr_german: you can get it if you want14:28
zOnnymr_german: it works! :D14:28
zOnnymr_german: mr_german https://pwa.novawebdevelopment.org/14:29
zOnnymr_german: it is just the beginning14:30
zOnnymr_german: next should be notifications :(14:30
zOnnymr_german: ttyl14:30
mr_germanzOnny, it works14:32
mr_germanand it looks good14:32
mr_germanI like this tool :D14:32
mr_germanthx14:32
mr_germanzOnny, 14:32
zOnnymr_german: did u get it in your homescreen ?14:34
mr_germanyes14:35
mr_germani did14:35
zOnnymr_german: It will be better once it will send notifications as native apps do14:38
mr_germanyep, it would be great14:39
zOnnymr_german: is this your phone ? https://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=23B-001M-00228&ignorebbr=1&nm_mc=KNC-GoogleAdwords-PC&cm_mmc=KNC-GoogleAdwords-PC-_-pla-_-Cell+Phone+-+Unlocked+Cell+Phones-_-23B-001M-00228&gclid=Cj0KCQjw-o_bBRCOARIsAM5NbIOf9y00uVFizPe-VABHddzxyB1_CFLRWjTZ3rNTB31iEyEtMrqh0KMaAufhEALw_wcB&gclsrc=aw.ds14:40
replaceafillmr_german, you around?14:47
mr_germannono14:52
mr_germanzOnny, huawei P814:52
mr_germanreplaceafill, I just come back14:53
replaceafillmr_german, email sent14:53
replaceafillzOnny, that CC includes a request for you too14:53
mr_germanreplaceafill, i just saw the email14:55
replaceafillmr_german, please answer there14:55
replaceafillmr_german, so Louie (who's not here) is aware14:55
mr_germanreplaceafill, ok15:02
replaceafillzOnny, busy?15:05
replaceafillzOnny, :)15:05
zOnnyreplaceafill: working on this https://docs.google.com/document/d/1dz3ldPJjDuDmotmlKkugwN6rIb0sMdowl58qVSrfTRQ/edit15:06
replaceafillzOnny, once you get chance 15:06
replaceafillzOnny, could you reply to my gitlab questions?15:06
zOnnyreplaceafill: ?15:06
replaceafillzOnny, you should have received several notifications from gitlab15:07
zOnnyreplaceafill: checking ...15:07
replaceafillzOnny, did you get any?15:08
zOnnyreplaceafill: I got it15:08
replaceafillzOnny, cool, thanks15:08
replaceafillACTION goes to get lunch, bb in ~4515:09
zOnnyreplaceafill: r15:09
mr_germanACTION goes to take his lunch15:11
replaceafillzOnny, priorities... priorities... https://gitlab.com/novawebdevelopment/novawebdev-ams/issues/16#note_9242939115:32
replaceafillzOnny, the mobile stories should be your only goal at the moment15:32
zOnnyreplaceafill: these fixes will not take me time 15:37
zOnnyreplaceafill: those are my faults15:37
replaceafilljelkner, could you explain zOnny about priorities...?15:37
replaceafilljelkner, i've tried many times and we're still not clear15:37
jelknerdo you mean the meaning of the term?15:38
jelknerzOnny, priorities is a really important word15:38
replaceafilljelkner, i mean that he needs to work in his assigned issues first15:38
jelknerdo you understand what it means?15:38
replaceafilljelkner, and get those done before moving on15:38
replaceafilljelkner, zOnny's natural instict is to jump around15:38
jelknerzOnny, if we are going to make it, we need to focus on the most important things first15:39
replaceafillzOnny, i have ton of backlog that "is my fault"15:39
jelknerreplaceafill is setting the priorities15:39
jelkneryou should be asking replaceafill what to do next when you finish something15:39
replaceafillzOnny, even if the fix is as simple as 1 line change, you have two other "big" stories pending15:40
jelknerreplaceafill, i got a very encouraging email from mjsir91115:40
jelkneri plan to follow up with him on monday15:40
replaceafilljelkner, regarding?15:41
jelknerhaving pwa working on both android and iphone15:41
replaceafilljelkner, it's an issue that i'm not included in those conversations15:41
replaceafilljelkner, if you want me to stay on top of things15:41
jelkneri agree15:41
jelkneri'll talk to him about that on monday15:42
replaceafilljelkner, cool, thanks15:42
replaceafilljelkner, i've noticed Marco tends to not reply all15:42
replaceafilljelkner, talk to him about that too please15:42
jelknerwill do15:42
jelknerzOnny, is it clear what replaceafill is saying to you?15:43
jelkneroh zOnny, are you here?15:43
jelkner"Hello World!"15:43
jelknerACTION picks up the phone to call zOnny 15:45
zOnnyjelkner: I got it15:45
jelknerACTION puts down the phone ;-)15:46
jelknerzOnny, communication is soooo important, please acknowledge when a question is addressed to you15:46
jelknerthnx!15:46
replaceafilljelkner, big +115:47
replaceafillIRC is very distracting15:47
replaceafilli'm not the right one to talk about it but pinging someone15:48
replaceafilland not interacting back quickly is very disrupting15:48
replaceafilljelkner, i requested your opinion here: https://gitlab.com/novawebdevelopment/nea4or-ams/issues/2215:49
replaceafilljelkner, i just want to make sure i didn't forget something15:50
jelknerlooks good to me replaceafill 17:11
jelknerthanks!17:11
replaceafilljelkner, cool17:12
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