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| replaceafill | good morning jelkner | 10:35 |
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| replaceafill | ACTION goes to get coffee, bb in ~15 | 10:46 |
| replaceafill | ACTION is back | 10:59 |
| *** zOnny has joined #novawebdev | 11:08 | |
| zOnny | hey replaceafill | 11:13 |
| replaceafill | hello zOnny | 11:13 |
| zOnny | replaceafill: busy ? | 11:14 |
| replaceafill | zOnny, a bit, what do you need? | 11:15 |
| zOnny | replaceafill: once you get chance | 11:15 |
| zOnny | replaceafill: Is this wrong ? | 11:15 |
| zOnny | replaceafill: https://paste.pound-python.org/show/V0iNbRFeYjNXA92Eztgh/ | 11:15 |
| replaceafill | zOnny, what's the content of manifest.js? | 11:16 |
| replaceafill | on | 11:17 |
| zOnny | replaceafill: hold on | 11:19 |
| zOnny | replaceafill: https://paste.pound-python.org/show/yjvkxyni6xrSuzo9lZ7S/ | 11:20 |
| replaceafill | zOnny, you're mixing concepts here | 11:20 |
| replaceafill | zOnny, manage.py loaddata takes json files representing django fixtures | 11:20 |
| replaceafill | zOnny, this is not a django fixture | 11:20 |
| zOnny | replaceafill: ah | 11:20 |
| zOnny | replaceafill: makes sense | 11:21 |
| replaceafill | zOnny, what are you trying to do? | 11:21 |
| zOnny | replaceafill: "src" doesn't respond | 11:21 |
| replaceafill | zOnny, src? | 11:21 |
| zOnny | replaceafill: is this in the wrong folder ? | 11:21 |
| replaceafill | zOnny, respond? | 11:22 |
| replaceafill | zOnny, you need to be more clear with your explanation | 11:22 |
| replaceafill | zOnny, i'm not aware of the context of this | 11:22 |
| replaceafill | zOnny, so you need to bring me up to speed | 11:22 |
| zOnny | replaceafill: "src": "/themes/nova/media/img/icon48.png" | 11:22 |
| replaceafill | zOnny, what's src and why it should "respond"? | 11:22 |
| replaceafill | zOnny, if you visit that file url, does it work? | 11:23 |
| zOnny | replaceafill: replaceafill https://pwa.novawebdevelopment.org/themes/nova/media/img/nfavicon.png | 11:23 |
| replaceafill | zOnny, but that's not the file | 11:23 |
| replaceafill | zOnny, i assume you meant this https://pwa.novawebdevelopment.org/themes/nova/media/img/icon48.png | 11:24 |
| replaceafill | zOnny, and yes, it's in the theme | 11:24 |
| zOnny | replaceafill: Oops | 11:24 |
| zOnny | replaceafill: https://pwa.novawebdevelopment.org/themes/nova/media/img/icon192.png | 11:25 |
| replaceafill | zOnny, so what do you mean by it doesnt respond? | 11:25 |
| zOnny | replaceafill: I want to make sure that the path in this files is correct | 11:25 |
| zOnny | replaceafill: it doesn't display the icon in the mobile screen | 11:26 |
| replaceafill | zOnny, but that's not problem with the path | 11:26 |
| zOnny | replaceafill: probably I am missing something else | 11:26 |
| replaceafill | zOnny, i think so | 11:26 |
| replaceafill | zOnny, do you get 404s when you try? | 11:26 |
| zOnny | replaceafill: nope | 11:27 |
| replaceafill | zOnny, how do you try? | 11:27 |
| replaceafill | <link rel="manifest" href="/themes/nova/media/manifest.json"> | 11:28 |
| replaceafill | zOnny, that's ^ the magic line, right? | 11:28 |
| zOnny | replaceafill: once you get the site in you mobile screen | 11:28 |
| zOnny | it should display the icons | 11:28 |
| zOnny | replaceafill: correct | 11:28 |
| replaceafill | zOnny, https://developer.mozilla.org/en-US/docs/Web/Manifest#start_url | 11:29 |
| replaceafill | zOnny, you should ask Marco | 11:29 |
| zOnny | replaceafill: no worries | 11:29 |
| replaceafill | zOnny, but i'm guessing start_url is wrong | 11:29 |
| zOnny | replaceafill: correct | 11:29 |
| replaceafill | zOnny, "Note that this has to be a relative URL" | 11:30 |
| replaceafill | zOnny, yours is not a relative URL | 11:30 |
| zOnny | I will test this out | 11:30 |
| replaceafill | "start_url": "/", | 11:30 |
| zOnny | replaceafill: :D | 11:30 |
| replaceafill | zOnny, cool, good luck, sorry but i'm not familiar yet with this **** | 11:30 |
| zOnny | replaceafill: np | 11:30 |
| zOnny | replaceafill: thanks for u time on it | 11:30 |
| zOnny | ttyl | 11:31 |
| replaceafill | zOnny, i'm planning to send you and mr_german a break down exercise | 11:31 |
| replaceafill | zOnny, try to get it done by tomorrow, ok? | 11:31 |
| replaceafill | zOnny, also | 11:31 |
| replaceafill | zOnny, i'll need you to provide status on these pwa stories | 11:31 |
| replaceafill | zOnny, you're the only one of the team aware of them | 11:31 |
| zOnny | replaceafill: I am reliying on the book | 11:32 |
| zOnny | *reying | 11:32 |
| replaceafill | zOnny, what things are left | 11:32 |
| zOnny | *relying | 11:32 |
| replaceafill | zOnny, why don't you ask Marco? | 11:32 |
| replaceafill | zOnny, isn't he supposed to help you with this? | 11:32 |
| zOnny | replaceafill: I will show up some of these days | 11:33 |
| replaceafill | zOnny, what do you mean? | 11:33 |
| zOnny | replaceafill: He is busy on this summer classes | 11:33 |
| zOnny | *his | 11:33 |
| replaceafill | zOnny, ah ok | 11:33 |
| replaceafill | zOnny, so you're doing this on your own? | 11:33 |
| zOnny | replaceafill: It is learning | 11:34 |
| replaceafill | zOnny, problem is you can't estimate how long it'll take | 11:34 |
| replaceafill | zOnny, because you're not aware of what's left | 11:34 |
| replaceafill | zOnny, you haven't broken down the whole story | 11:35 |
| zOnny | replaceafill: right | 11:35 |
| replaceafill | zOnny, what if the book takes you to places we don't really need | 11:35 |
| zOnny | replaceafill: ok | 11:35 |
| replaceafill | zOnny, ok, we'll see | 11:36 |
| replaceafill | zOnny, ttyl | 11:36 |
| zOnny | replaceafill: we started this together but I want to get more progress on it | 11:39 |
| replaceafill | zOnny, i understand, but you realize it's poor planning, right? | 11:40 |
| replaceafill | zOnny, even if you spend the next 3 days working 24 hours on it | 11:40 |
| replaceafill | zOnny, and you get it done | 11:40 |
| replaceafill | zOnny, your two PWA stories are the most important at the moment | 11:40 |
| replaceafill | zOnny, and we can't answer "when will it be ready?" | 11:41 |
| zOnny | replaceafill: we know that | 11:41 |
| replaceafill | zOnny, that uncertainty factor is what we need to get rid of in our work | 11:41 |
| replaceafill | zOnny, same happens to my work | 11:41 |
| replaceafill | zOnny, if you get any questions through gitlab please answer them asap, ok? | 11:42 |
| replaceafill | zOnny, i'm planning next week sprint | 11:42 |
| replaceafill | zOnny, and i need to understand where we are | 11:43 |
| zOnny | replaceafill: ok | 11:44 |
| jelkner | replaceafill, ping | 11:46 |
| jelkner | email just sent | 11:46 |
| replaceafill | jelkner, pong | 11:46 |
| replaceafill | jelkner, [provided voting instructions here] :D | 11:47 |
| replaceafill | jelkner, come on man! we have docs now! | 11:47 |
| replaceafill | jelkner, creating the election | 11:47 |
| jelkner | so the instructions just point to the docs ;-) | 11:47 |
| jelkner | easy peasy | 11:47 |
| jelkner | people are busy, replaceafill | 11:48 |
| jelkner | if things aren't super easy | 11:48 |
| jelkner | they won't vote | 11:48 |
| jelkner | that's our challenge | 11:48 |
| jelkner | i'm assuming people reading this on their phone | 11:48 |
| replaceafill | jelkner, don't you need some kind of date in this election title | 11:48 |
| replaceafill | jelkner, like 2018 or something? | 11:49 |
| jelkner | SY 2018-19 | 11:49 |
| jelkner | not to distract you, replaceafill | 11:49 |
| jelkner | but i tried to join the #techwontbuildit channel micky mentioned and there was nobody on it | 11:50 |
| replaceafill | jelkner, was she referring to a IRC channel? | 11:50 |
| jelkner | i don't know? | 11:50 |
| jelkner | perhaps not | 11:50 |
| jelkner | i'll email her back | 11:51 |
| replaceafill | jelkner, +1 | 11:51 |
| replaceafill | ah damn, we don't really have a doc to vote on an election | 11:54 |
| replaceafill | https://gitlab.com/novawebdevelopment/novawebdev-ams/issues/35 | 11:54 |
| jelkner | actually, ubunturist already knows what it is, and put it in the news section of our website | 11:57 |
| jelkner | (i was talking about #techwontbuildit | 11:58 |
| jelkner | ) | 11:58 |
| jelkner | i emailed instructions in the past | 11:58 |
| jelkner | replaceafill, | 11:58 |
| replaceafill | jelkner, ah | 11:58 |
| replaceafill | jelkner, should i "sign" the election email like this: | 11:59 |
| replaceafill | Jeff Elkner | 11:59 |
| replaceafill | AEA-PAC Chair | 11:59 |
| replaceafill | ? | 11:59 |
| jelkner | +1 | 11:59 |
| replaceafill | jelkner, kk | 11:59 |
| jelkner | i just pasted the instructions from the email into the issue discussion, replaceafill | 12:02 |
| replaceafill | jelkner, great, thanks | 12:03 |
| replaceafill | jelkner, election email sent | 12:07 |
| jelkner | wow, it arrived, but in my spam folder :-( | 12:09 |
| jelkner | anyway, i found it | 12:09 |
| jelkner | i'll follow up with an email myself | 12:09 |
| replaceafill | jelkner, unfortunately i don't think we'll ever figure out mass mailing | 12:10 |
| jelkner | i'm thinking mass texting will be even more important | 12:11 |
| jelkner | but don't say never | 12:11 |
| replaceafill | never! | 12:11 |
| replaceafill | :P | 12:11 |
| jelkner | if we are lucky enough to make, we will have to | 12:11 |
| replaceafill | there i just said it | 12:11 |
| jelkner | lol | 12:11 |
| replaceafill | jelkner, i found a way to send renewal reminders from tendenci like the ones we need for nea4or | 12:13 |
| replaceafill | jelkner, https://www.tendenci.com/help-files/member-notices-templates/ | 12:13 |
| replaceafill | jelkner, we should those instead of us manually managing expired members | 12:14 |
| replaceafill | jelkner, and we should extend the mailing list app to handle expired members, again instead of us doing it manually | 12:15 |
| jelkner | i voted | 12:15 |
| jelkner | that sounds great, replaceafill | 12:16 |
| replaceafill | https://gitlab.com/novawebdevelopment/tendenci-mailman/issues/3 | 12:19 |
| replaceafill | jelkner, i talked to nrcerna last night and we have another "invoicing problem" | 12:22 |
| jelkner | which is? | 12:22 |
| replaceafill | jelkner, she's been working for Paul and not invoicing him | 12:22 |
| jelkner | ouch! | 12:22 |
| replaceafill | jelkner, it's about 20 hours total | 12:22 |
| replaceafill | jelkner, since may *i think* | 12:22 |
| replaceafill | jelkner, Paul also sent her a "thank you" bonus for her work | 12:23 |
| jelkner | lelkneralfaro is supposed to talk to you about this | 12:23 |
| replaceafill | jelkner, ok, i'll send an email | 12:24 |
| jelkner | +1 | 12:24 |
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| zOnny | mr_german: r u around ? | 14:14 |
| mr_german | zOnny, yes? | 14:15 |
| zOnny | mr_german: busy ? | 14:15 |
| mr_german | kind of | 14:15 |
| mr_german | what do you need? | 14:15 |
| mr_german | :) | 14:15 |
| zOnny | mr_german: what kind of phone Do you have | 14:16 |
| mr_german | huawei | 14:16 |
| zOnny | mr_german: what is that ? | 14:17 |
| zOnny | it is running android ? | 14:17 |
| mr_german | yep | 14:19 |
| zOnny | mr_german: I just used the emulator https://appetize.io/demo?device=nexus5&scale=75&orientation=portrait&osVersion=7. | 14:26 |
| mr_german | to test the sites? | 14:27 |
| mr_german | zOnny, | 14:27 |
| zOnny | mr_german: yep | 14:27 |
| zOnny | mr_german: you can get it if you want | 14:28 |
| zOnny | mr_german: it works! :D | 14:28 |
| zOnny | mr_german: mr_german https://pwa.novawebdevelopment.org/ | 14:29 |
| zOnny | mr_german: it is just the beginning | 14:30 |
| zOnny | mr_german: next should be notifications :( | 14:30 |
| zOnny | mr_german: ttyl | 14:30 |
| mr_german | zOnny, it works | 14:32 |
| mr_german | and it looks good | 14:32 |
| mr_german | I like this tool :D | 14:32 |
| mr_german | thx | 14:32 |
| mr_german | zOnny, | 14:32 |
| zOnny | mr_german: did u get it in your homescreen ? | 14:34 |
| mr_german | yes | 14:35 |
| mr_german | i did | 14:35 |
| zOnny | mr_german: It will be better once it will send notifications as native apps do | 14:38 |
| mr_german | yep, it would be great | 14:39 |
| zOnny | mr_german: is this your phone ? https://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=23B-001M-00228&ignorebbr=1&nm_mc=KNC-GoogleAdwords-PC&cm_mmc=KNC-GoogleAdwords-PC-_-pla-_-Cell+Phone+-+Unlocked+Cell+Phones-_-23B-001M-00228&gclid=Cj0KCQjw-o_bBRCOARIsAM5NbIOf9y00uVFizPe-VABHddzxyB1_CFLRWjTZ3rNTB31iEyEtMrqh0KMaAufhEALw_wcB&gclsrc=aw.ds | 14:40 |
| replaceafill | mr_german, you around? | 14:47 |
| mr_german | nono | 14:52 |
| mr_german | zOnny, huawei P8 | 14:52 |
| mr_german | replaceafill, I just come back | 14:53 |
| replaceafill | mr_german, email sent | 14:53 |
| replaceafill | zOnny, that CC includes a request for you too | 14:53 |
| mr_german | replaceafill, i just saw the email | 14:55 |
| replaceafill | mr_german, please answer there | 14:55 |
| replaceafill | mr_german, so Louie (who's not here) is aware | 14:55 |
| mr_german | replaceafill, ok | 15:02 |
| replaceafill | zOnny, busy? | 15:05 |
| replaceafill | zOnny, :) | 15:05 |
| zOnny | replaceafill: working on this https://docs.google.com/document/d/1dz3ldPJjDuDmotmlKkugwN6rIb0sMdowl58qVSrfTRQ/edit | 15:06 |
| replaceafill | zOnny, once you get chance | 15:06 |
| replaceafill | zOnny, could you reply to my gitlab questions? | 15:06 |
| zOnny | replaceafill: ? | 15:06 |
| replaceafill | zOnny, you should have received several notifications from gitlab | 15:07 |
| zOnny | replaceafill: checking ... | 15:07 |
| replaceafill | zOnny, did you get any? | 15:08 |
| zOnny | replaceafill: I got it | 15:08 |
| replaceafill | zOnny, cool, thanks | 15:08 |
| replaceafill | ACTION goes to get lunch, bb in ~45 | 15:09 |
| zOnny | replaceafill: r | 15:09 |
| mr_german | ACTION goes to take his lunch | 15:11 |
| replaceafill | zOnny, priorities... priorities... https://gitlab.com/novawebdevelopment/novawebdev-ams/issues/16#note_92429391 | 15:32 |
| replaceafill | zOnny, the mobile stories should be your only goal at the moment | 15:32 |
| zOnny | replaceafill: these fixes will not take me time | 15:37 |
| zOnny | replaceafill: those are my faults | 15:37 |
| replaceafill | jelkner, could you explain zOnny about priorities...? | 15:37 |
| replaceafill | jelkner, i've tried many times and we're still not clear | 15:37 |
| jelkner | do you mean the meaning of the term? | 15:38 |
| jelkner | zOnny, priorities is a really important word | 15:38 |
| replaceafill | jelkner, i mean that he needs to work in his assigned issues first | 15:38 |
| jelkner | do you understand what it means? | 15:38 |
| replaceafill | jelkner, and get those done before moving on | 15:38 |
| replaceafill | jelkner, zOnny's natural instict is to jump around | 15:38 |
| jelkner | zOnny, if we are going to make it, we need to focus on the most important things first | 15:39 |
| replaceafill | zOnny, i have ton of backlog that "is my fault" | 15:39 |
| jelkner | replaceafill is setting the priorities | 15:39 |
| jelkner | you should be asking replaceafill what to do next when you finish something | 15:39 |
| replaceafill | zOnny, even if the fix is as simple as 1 line change, you have two other "big" stories pending | 15:40 |
| jelkner | replaceafill, i got a very encouraging email from mjsir911 | 15:40 |
| jelkner | i plan to follow up with him on monday | 15:40 |
| replaceafill | jelkner, regarding? | 15:41 |
| jelkner | having pwa working on both android and iphone | 15:41 |
| replaceafill | jelkner, it's an issue that i'm not included in those conversations | 15:41 |
| replaceafill | jelkner, if you want me to stay on top of things | 15:41 |
| jelkner | i agree | 15:41 |
| jelkner | i'll talk to him about that on monday | 15:42 |
| replaceafill | jelkner, cool, thanks | 15:42 |
| replaceafill | jelkner, i've noticed Marco tends to not reply all | 15:42 |
| replaceafill | jelkner, talk to him about that too please | 15:42 |
| jelkner | will do | 15:42 |
| jelkner | zOnny, is it clear what replaceafill is saying to you? | 15:43 |
| jelkner | oh zOnny, are you here? | 15:43 |
| jelkner | "Hello World!" | 15:43 |
| jelkner | ACTION picks up the phone to call zOnny | 15:45 |
| zOnny | jelkner: I got it | 15:45 |
| jelkner | ACTION puts down the phone ;-) | 15:46 |
| jelkner | zOnny, communication is soooo important, please acknowledge when a question is addressed to you | 15:46 |
| jelkner | thnx! | 15:46 |
| replaceafill | jelkner, big +1 | 15:47 |
| replaceafill | IRC is very distracting | 15:47 |
| replaceafill | i'm not the right one to talk about it but pinging someone | 15:48 |
| replaceafill | and not interacting back quickly is very disrupting | 15:48 |
| replaceafill | jelkner, i requested your opinion here: https://gitlab.com/novawebdevelopment/nea4or-ams/issues/22 | 15:49 |
| replaceafill | jelkner, i just want to make sure i didn't forget something | 15:50 |
| jelkner | looks good to me replaceafill | 17:11 |
| jelkner | thanks! | 17:11 |
| replaceafill | jelkner, cool | 17:12 |
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| replaceafill | ACTION signs off for the day | 17:34 |
| jelkner | ACTION signs off for the day | 17:36 |
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