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| replaceafill | jelkner, https://github.com/benadida/helios-server/issues/182 | 11:55 |
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| jelkner | Good morning, zOnny | 12:24 |
| jelkner | or good afternoon in your case ;-) | 12:25 |
| zOnny | jelkner: good morning | 12:25 |
| jelkner | any news on the aea pwa? | 12:25 |
| jelkner | i'm waiting to test it | 12:25 |
| zOnny | jelkner: it is already to test | 12:25 |
| jelkner | oh my | 12:25 |
| zOnny | jelkner: Novalaciro as well | 12:26 |
| jelkner | let me get right to that then! | 12:26 |
| jelkner | ACTION goes to install aea and novalaicro pwas... | 12:26 |
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| lelkneralfaro | jelkner, hey i am here | 12:54 |
| lelkneralfaro | jelkner, want to chat about something? | 12:54 |
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| jelkner | lelkneralfaro, it would be nice if you and zOnny can plan to be on irc today, tomorrow, Friday, Monday, and Tuesday at 10 am. | 13:02 |
| jelkner | we are starting at 8 am to accommodate that. | 13:02 |
| jelkner | mr_german and replaceafill have been working furiously | 13:02 |
| jelkner | this is what we call a development sprint | 13:03 |
| jelkner | during these next few days, we want to push hard to get our organizing tool ready for market | 13:03 |
| jelkner | i just installed the AEA PWA (Yippee!= | 13:03 |
| jelkner | i've got screenshots and an issue i'm about to file | 13:04 |
| jelkner | but we want to all be on the same page regarding priorities | 13:04 |
| jelkner | lelkneralfaro, that discussion we had earlier about what you need to be ready to market our tool is crucial now | 13:04 |
| jelkner | now is your chance to get the most rapid progress toward that goal | 13:05 |
| jelkner | so we need your input | 13:05 |
| lelkneralfaro | jelkner, what input are you looking for | 13:06 |
| zOnny | replaceafill: this very interesting https://imgur.com/a/wd9xEys | 13:10 |
| jelkner | lelkneralfaro, we need a ToDo list of highest priorities for launch | 13:10 |
| replaceafill | zOnny, you can paste url to webpages and sections :) | 13:10 |
| replaceafill | zOnny, but yes | 13:10 |
| jelkner | i'm here working with mr_german and replaceafill, so i'm asking for fixes to things i need | 13:10 |
| replaceafill | zOnny, use {% url ... %} as much as possible | 13:11 |
| jelkner | but you are the one who will be hitting the street in a few weeks to market our product | 13:11 |
| jelkner | so having you sign off that it is ready is crucial | 13:11 |
| jelkner | zOnny, what are you working on now? | 13:17 |
| jelkner | Can you please work on this: https://gitlab.com/novawebdevelopment/novawebdev-ams/issues/51 | 13:17 |
| jelkner | replaceafill agrees | 13:18 |
| zOnny | jelkner: I am developing an app based on what nathan has left | 13:18 |
| jelkner | but the priority is this issue | 13:18 |
| zOnny | jelkner: ok | 13:19 |
| jelkner | we need to coordinate so we are ready for aea | 13:19 |
| zOnny | jelkner: it will be quick | 13:19 |
| replaceafill | zOnny, another one for you https://gitlab.com/novawebdevelopment/novawebdev-ams/issues/52 | 13:19 |
| zOnny | jelkner: it is already fixed on ORA | 13:19 |
| replaceafill | zOnny, it's a general issue in all of our themes | 13:19 |
| replaceafill | zOnny, so please fix it in master and then "cascade" (merge) in each theme | 13:20 |
| zOnny | replaceafill: I see | 13:20 |
| zOnny | replaceafill: thanks | 13:20 |
| replaceafill | zOnny, thank you | 13:20 |
| replaceafill | zOnny, jelkner posted this comment on the forums issue: https://gitlab.com/novawebdevelopment/novawebdev-ams/issues/51#note_94734616 | 13:22 |
| replaceafill | zOnny, let me know if you need help setting that up | 13:23 |
| zOnny | replaceafill: same as the ORA ? | 13:23 |
| replaceafill | zOnny, oh you have set them for ora already? | 13:24 |
| zOnny | replaceafill: correct | 13:24 |
| replaceafill | zOnny, cool, so yes | 13:24 |
| replaceafill | zOnny, same | 13:24 |
| zOnny | replaceafill: ok | 13:24 |
| replaceafill | zOnny, NWD, ORA and AEA all have trheaded posts enabled | 13:24 |
| zOnny | replaceafill: ok | 13:25 |
| jelkner | lelkneralfaro, documentation can be frustrating to write | 13:31 |
| jelkner | especially since you are documenting a moving target | 13:31 |
| jelkner | so the target keeps changing, and your documentation quickly becomes obsolete | 13:32 |
| jelkner | bad and frustrating to you and users alike | 13:32 |
| lelkneralfaro | jelkner, yes that's frustrating. but it's also just tough to slog throgh | 13:32 |
| jelkner | it's a bit like comments in source code | 13:32 |
| lelkneralfaro | jelkner, even if the changes weren't a thing | 13:32 |
| jelkner | since they aren't linked directly to the code, they tend to become out of date | 13:33 |
| lelkneralfaro | jelkner, and I'm trying to adjust my work to getting used to it | 13:33 |
| jelkner | better code is self-documenting | 13:33 |
| jelkner | better apps should likewise | 13:33 |
| lelkneralfaro | jelkner, it's really unstimulating | 13:33 |
| jelkner | we need the documentation inside our application | 13:33 |
| jelkner | so it can't become out of date | 13:34 |
| jelkner | since developers change it as they change the application | 13:34 |
| lelkneralfaro | jelkner, that sounds like something way down the line | 13:35 |
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| zOnny | replaceafill: you mean Both issues in master, right? | 13:41 |
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| nrcerna | Hello World! | 13:54 |
| zOnny | zOnny: Hello nrcerna | 13:58 |
| nrcerna | Hello zOnny :) | 13:58 |
| jelkner | replacefill and jelkner are discussing context aware help | 14:10 |
| jelkner | this is a critical discussion | 14:11 |
| nrcerna | :O jelkner | 14:15 |
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| jelkner | so, lelkneralfaro here is what we've determined for now | 14:29 |
| jelkner | 1. lelkneralfaro stops writing documentation | 14:29 |
| jelkner | 2. we will only update documentation based on user issues | 14:30 |
| jelkner | 3. replaceafill will find "somewhere" to track user issues ;') | 14:30 |
| jelkner | so let's get back to work on our tool | 14:30 |
| jelkner | in the long term (should we make it to the long term) | 14:31 |
| jelkner | we will want to add better context sensitive help to tendenci 11 | 14:31 |
| lelkneralfaro | jelkner, for me does that mean I should be testing and filing issues? | 14:31 |
| lelkneralfaro | jelkner, when you say get back to work on our tool? | 14:31 |
| jelkner | ahh, great question | 14:32 |
| jelkner | here is what i am requesting in that regard | 14:32 |
| jelkner | 1. replaceafill setups up a dev site for testmonkeys | 14:32 |
| jelkner | 2. we remove fake users and fake votes, etc. from our own website | 14:32 |
| jelkner | and begin true dogfooding | 14:32 |
| jelkner | which means using our website as an organizational tool | 14:33 |
| jelkner | so we have real forums and real issues | 14:33 |
| jelkner | and real votes | 14:33 |
| replaceafill | jelkner, lelkneralfaro regarding the dev site discussion | 14:33 |
| replaceafill | jelkner, lelkneralfaro it's a huge burden have the dev site mirroring the exact functionality of the prod sites | 14:34 |
| replaceafill | jelkner, lelkneralfaro zOnny's noticed that recently | 14:34 |
| replaceafill | jelkner, lelkneralfaro so i'd like to propose we train lelkneralfaro to set up his own local dev instances | 14:35 |
| replaceafill | jelkner, lelkneralfaro and how to update them | 14:35 |
| lelkneralfaro | replaceafill, okay I'm up for that | 14:35 |
| lelkneralfaro | replaceafill, jelkner why would my own local dev instance not have the same problem of the mirroring of the prod sites? | 14:36 |
| replaceafill | lelkneralfaro, because the dev server was set up earlier than our current functionality | 14:37 |
| replaceafill | lelkneralfaro, and i couldn't keep up the pace in there | 14:37 |
| replaceafill | lelkneralfaro, my initial goal for it was to show customers features we were developing | 14:38 |
| replaceafill | lelkneralfaro, but were not stable enough for production | 14:38 |
| replaceafill | lelkneralfaro, like proposed changes to the homepages and so on | 14:38 |
| replaceafill | lelkneralfaro, and get the customer approval or feedback on those | 14:38 |
| lelkneralfaro | replaceafill, okay I understand. | 14:39 |
| replaceafill | lelkneralfaro, but that's mostly for CMs | 14:39 |
| replaceafill | CMSs | 14:39 |
| jelkner | in our current context, replaceafill | 14:39 |
| jelkner | we aren't going to offer too many of those changes | 14:39 |
| jelkner | so we don't really need that, right? | 14:39 |
| replaceafill | ACTION stops addressing messages individually :) | 14:40 |
| replaceafill | right | 14:40 |
| replaceafill | the product doesn't change like that | 14:40 |
| replaceafill | features need to get stable first | 14:40 |
| replaceafill | we're not there yet | 14:40 |
| jelkner | +1 | 14:40 |
| replaceafill | we have broken and unfinished features | 14:40 |
| jelkner | that is our current task | 14:40 |
| jelkner | to "lock down" our tool | 14:40 |
| replaceafill | so until we have that done we should worry about having mirror dev sites | 14:41 |
| jelkner | to the thing we will market at first | 14:41 |
| jelkner | so we can still remove the testing monkeys | 14:41 |
| jelkner | from our site | 14:41 |
| jelkner | and just start using it for real | 14:41 |
| replaceafill | zOnny, you around? | 14:42 |
| zOnny | mr_german: replaceafill yes ? | 14:42 |
| zOnny | replaceafill: yes ? | 14:42 |
| replaceafill | zOnny, do you see value in our dev sites? | 14:42 |
| replaceafill | zOnny, i mean having them is important to you? | 14:43 |
| replaceafill | zOnny, do you mind if i get rid of them? | 14:43 |
| jelkner | zOnny, think novalaciro | 14:43 |
| replaceafill | zOnny, it'd simplify some of our git merging issues | 14:43 |
| jelkner | oh zOnny, were are you? | 14:43 |
| zOnny | replaceafill: not really but if we are still struggling with git | 14:43 |
| replaceafill | ok, motion to "disable" our dev sites from the time being | 14:45 |
| replaceafill | anyone opposed to it? | 14:46 |
| zOnny | replaceafill: I am ok with that | 14:47 |
| replaceafill | zOnny, cool | 14:47 |
| jelkner | lelkneralfaro, here is a task for you that would be a big help | 14:47 |
| jelkner | can you please go into our website and delete all fake data? | 14:47 |
| jelkner | testmonkey users | 14:47 |
| jelkner | fake votes, etc | 14:48 |
| lelkneralfaro | jelkner, yup. easily done. fake votes I have no idea how to do tht | 14:48 |
| lelkneralfaro | jelkner, fake users i can do though | 14:48 |
| jelkner | replaceafill has to do that | 14:48 |
| zOnny | replaceafill: Do I have permission to push commits on master ? | 14:49 |
| replaceafill | zOnny, mr_german i'll set up this new workflow and let you know | 14:50 |
| replaceafill | zOnny, mr_german for now, keep working the way we've been doing | 14:50 |
| zOnny | replaceafill: ? | 14:54 |
| replaceafill | zOnny, sorry, i was away talking to mr_german | 14:55 |
| replaceafill | zOnny, yes? | 14:55 |
| zOnny | replaceafill: https://paste.pound-python.org/show/pGoNaQvBn93LmUcWte9J/ | 14:56 |
| replaceafill | zOnny, no, all the _prod branches are protected | 14:56 |
| replaceafill | zOnny, we haven't done anything of what we just discussed | 14:57 |
| replaceafill | zOnny, nothing has changed yet | 14:57 |
| replaceafill | zOnny, we're planning | 14:57 |
| replaceafill | zOnny, that's why i said: "zOnny, mr_german i'll set up this new workflow and let you know" | 14:57 |
| zOnny | replaceafill: ok | 14:57 |
| lelkneralfaro | jelkner, I've deleted the users and the groups that i created. should i delete the other test groups, like the knights who say ni and pythonista? | 15:03 |
| zOnny | mr_german: are u around ? | 15:04 |
| replaceafill | zOnny, he's going out to get lunch | 15:07 |
| replaceafill | lelkneralfaro, +1 | 15:07 |
| replaceafill | lelkneralfaro, i think those were created for testing voting | 15:07 |
| lelkneralfaro | replaceafill, cool thanks | 15:07 |
| replaceafill | ACTION goes to get lunch | 15:08 |
| zOnny | replaceafill: I did the fixes on master branch | 15:08 |
| replaceafill | zOnny, for the horizontal scrolling issue? | 15:08 |
| zOnny | replaceafill: yes | 15:08 |
| zOnny | both | 15:08 |
| replaceafill | zOnny, great | 15:08 |
| zOnny | replaceafill: but master is protected | 15:08 |
| replaceafill | zOnny, if you can't push to master, please add one | 15:08 |
| replaceafill | zOnny, yes | 15:08 |
| replaceafill | zOnny, and i'll merge it this afternoon | 15:08 |
| replaceafill | zOnny, or create a merge request :) | 15:09 |
| replaceafill | zOnny, and i'll just click the button | 15:09 |
| zOnny | add a new branch ? | 15:09 |
| replaceafill | zOnny, yes | 15:09 |
| replaceafill | zOnny, a personal one zOnny/fix_something_something | 15:09 |
| zOnny | replaceafill: I included the forum issue as well | 15:09 |
| replaceafill | zOnny, oh cool | 15:10 |
| zOnny | replaceafill: ok | 15:10 |
| zOnny | replaceafill: ttyl | 15:10 |
| jelkner | ACTION signs off for lunch (he is being fed sooo well, here! ;-) | 15:18 |
| jelkner | bb in < 60 mins. | 15:19 |
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| jelkner | back from a great lunch! | 16:14 |
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| replaceafill | zOnny, is the zOnny/navigation_fixes ready to be merged? | 16:18 |
| zOnny | replaceafill: correct | 16:19 |
| zOnny | replaceafill: uhmmmm hold on | 16:19 |
| replaceafill | zOnny, since we'll probably land some more commits to master | 16:19 |
| replaceafill | zOnny, during the sprint | 16:19 |
| replaceafill | zOnny, i'll give you permission to do it, ok? | 16:20 |
| nrcerna | replaceafill: can we talk today? | 16:20 |
| replaceafill | nrcerna, what time should i call you? | 16:20 |
| jelkner | nrcerna, are you here? | 16:20 |
| jelkner | did you get off early on Friday, nrcerna? | 16:21 |
| replaceafill | zOnny, done, you can merge and push to master | 16:22 |
| zOnny | replaceafill: thanks | 16:22 |
| nrcerna | Hello :), that is what I want to takl, I think Im going to be able jelkner and replaceafill | 16:22 |
| nrcerna | talk* | 16:23 |
| nrcerna | mmm , I think 7:30 it is ok to call replaceafill | 16:23 |
| replaceafill | nrcerna, cool, i'll call you at 7:30 our time | 16:23 |
| replaceafill | nrcerna, talk to you then | 16:23 |
| nrcerna | How are you jelkner ? :D | 16:24 |
| jelkner | i'm having a great time, nrcerna | 16:26 |
| jelkner | marcela is feeding me too well ;-) | 16:27 |
| jelkner | and hanging out with mr_german and replaceafill is great fun | 16:27 |
| jelkner | looking forward to meeting you in person on Friday | 16:27 |
| jelkner | zOnny: btw, i think i told you before, but https://novawebdevelopment.org/help-files/pwa/ is really nicely done | 16:30 |
| zOnny | jelkner: cool | 16:31 |
| replaceafill | zOnny, now you'll cascade the navigation fix to all the themes, right? | 16:34 |
| zOnny | replaceafill: I think so :/ | 16:36 |
| replaceafill | zOnny, :| | 16:36 |
| replaceafill | zOnny, please do | 16:36 |
| nrcerna | I'm happy to read that jelkner , I'm nervous as mr_german told a few days before | 16:38 |
| nrcerna | ago* | 16:38 |
| jelkner | i'm looking forward to dinner, nrcerna | 16:38 |
| jelkner | where do you want to go? | 16:38 |
| nrcerna | did you eat pupusas already? jelkner :D | 16:39 |
| jelkner | i was trying to get everyone to go to the brew pub in san salvador, but no one but me likes beer :-( | 16:39 |
| nrcerna | jajajaja, I like "micheladas" jelkner | 16:40 |
| nrcerna | that has some beer jelkner | 16:40 |
| jelkner | mi cuñada took me to los planes de rendero | 16:40 |
| jelkner | but i could eat pupusas 7 days a week | 16:41 |
| nrcerna | jajajaj that is a super human Salvadorean power! jelkner | 16:41 |
| jelkner | http://cervezacadejo.com/cadejo-es.html | 16:43 |
| jelkner | see if they have micheladas, nrcerna | 16:43 |
| jelkner | then maybe i could lobby you to go there | 16:44 |
| jelkner | somos 7, so we would still need 2 more votes | 16:44 |
| zOnny | replaceafill: by cascade you mean merge? | 16:44 |
| replaceafill | zOnny, affirmative | 16:45 |
| nrcerna | Ok jelkner :) | 16:45 |
| replaceafill | nrcerna, are you going to be able to leave early on friday? | 16:45 |
| zOnny | replaceafill: merge master to novawebdev_prod directly ? | 16:46 |
| replaceafill | zOnny, no | 16:46 |
| zOnny | replaceafill: merge maste to _dev first ? | 16:46 |
| replaceafill | zOnny, yes | 16:46 |
| replaceafill | zOnny, master -> dev -> prod | 16:46 |
| nrcerna | Thats is what im trying to make :) , i think if I come to work tomorrow in the morning I'm going to be able to do that. replaceafill | 16:47 |
| replaceafill | nrcerna, cool | 16:47 |
| nrcerna | tienes algo en mente ? replaceafill | 16:47 |
| replaceafill | nrcerna, en mente? | 16:52 |
| nrcerna | Pensé que lo estabas preguntando por algo más específico replaceafill | 16:53 |
| replaceafill | nrcerna, no, solo queria saber si te esperabamos para ir a cenar | 16:54 |
| nrcerna | Oki replaceafill | 16:54 |
| zOnny | replaceafill: mr_german don't forget the pulls | 16:56 |
| replaceafill | zOnny, thanks for the heads up | 16:56 |
| replaceafill | zOnny, i just kicked CI in the NWD site | 16:56 |
| zOnny | replaceafill: good | 16:58 |
| replaceafill | zOnny, check NWD and navbar doesn't scroll anymore | 16:58 |
| replaceafill | zOnny, good work | 16:58 |
| zOnny | replaceafill: NWD, AEA and ? | 17:02 |
| replaceafill | zOnny, ORA | 17:03 |
| zOnny | replaceafill: ah | 17:03 |
| zOnny | replaceafill: thanks | 17:03 |
| replaceafill | zOnny, there's an issue with NEA4OR | 17:04 |
| replaceafill | zOnny, with horizontal scrolling | 17:04 |
| replaceafill | zOnny, but it's caused by a picture in the home page | 17:04 |
| replaceafill | zOnny, novalaciro | 17:05 |
| zOnny | replaceafill: ? | 17:06 |
| replaceafill | jelkner, Güisquil | 17:07 |
| replaceafill | güisquil | 17:07 |
| replaceafill | jelkner, http://www.wordreference.com/es/en/translation.asp?spen=pipi%C3%A1n | 17:08 |
| replaceafill | zOnny, novalaciro has the same problem | 17:08 |
| zOnny | replaceafill: ok | 17:10 |
| zOnny | I wonder if this is an Issue https://imgur.com/a/b6JZS3r :/ | 17:26 |
| replaceafill | zOnny, wasn't that part of the forums issue? | 17:38 |
| replaceafill | zOnny, https://gitlab.com/novawebdevelopment/novawebdev-ams/issues/51 | 17:38 |
| zOnny | replaceafill: nope | 17:42 |
| replaceafill | jelkner, is this https://imgur.com/a/b6JZS3r part of this https://gitlab.com/novawebdevelopment/novawebdev-ams/issues/51 | 17:42 |
| mr_german | replaceafill, https://gitlab.com/gfbot/helios_booth/tree/master | 17:42 |
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| jelkner | zOnny: you have complete authority to take ownership of issues like this | 17:45 |
| jelkner | you don't need to ask anyone | 17:45 |
| jelkner | you da man! | 17:45 |
| jelkner | we need text on top and user input underneath | 17:46 |
| jelkner | both full width if possible | 17:46 |
| jelkner | i don't know how easy that is to do | 17:46 |
| jelkner | if it is really, really hard, we may need to think of something else | 17:46 |
| jelkner | but please feel free to use your judgment | 17:46 |
| jelkner | you know more than me | 17:47 |
| jelkner | ACTION signs off for a bit to test a different laptop | 17:52 |
| jelkner | ACTION is still in the room with mr_german and replaceafill, so ping them to reach me | 17:53 |
| zOnny | it is the long link :(, once the link is deleted https://imgur.com/a/TJ8rOrs | 17:53 |
| replaceafill | zOnny, mr_german do you know how to fix it without deleting the link? :) | 17:54 |
| zOnny | replaceafill: the long link is just one word | 17:54 |
| zOnny | replaceafill: good question for google | 17:55 |
| zOnny | replaceafill: on it | 17:55 |
| replaceafill | mr_german, https://novawebdevelopment.org/forums/c/study-groups/technology-and-economy/capitalism-and-hacking-it/ | 17:55 |
| zOnny | replaceafill: https://stackoverflow.com/questions/18157620/responsive-solution-for-long-urls-that-exceed-the-device-width | 17:56 |
| mr_german | zOnny, i can help you with that | 17:56 |
| zOnny | mr_german: which is the <property> : <value> for it | 17:57 |
| mr_german | i think booststrap | 17:57 |
| mr_german | has a class | 17:57 |
| mr_german | for that | 17:57 |
| mr_german | "text-wrap", but let me see where you have to put it | 17:58 |
| mr_german | zOnny, | 17:58 |
| zOnny | mr_german: is this the solution https://css-tricks.com/snippets/css/prevent-long-urls-from-breaking-out-of-container/ | 17:58 |
| zOnny | mr_german: most of the links are included as a attribute | 17:59 |
| zOnny | mr_german: it can be in the a { } | 18:00 |
| zOnny | mr_german: no worries I can deal with it | 18:01 |
| zOnny | Althougt it is not a link :( | 18:14 |
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| jelkner | ACTION signing off for the day bb early tomorrow morning | 19:36 |
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