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| jelkner | good morning lelkneralfaro | 10:02 |
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| lelkneralfaro | jelkner, good morning | 10:03 |
| jelkner | replaceafill had a breakthrough yesterday that will help us a lot | 10:03 |
| jelkner | he was just explaining it to me | 10:03 |
| jelkner | he is becoming a Django Wizzard, just what we need ;-) | 10:03 |
| jelkner | he can now customize Helios without touching the base code | 10:04 |
| jelkner | he was agonizing over weather or not we needed to fork Helios to fix some of our issues | 10:04 |
| jelkner | now we don't | 10:04 |
| jelkner | that's big news | 10:05 |
| jelkner | sprints are fun like this | 10:05 |
| jelkner | when you get major things accomplished | 10:05 |
| lelkneralfaro | that's great to hear :) | 10:09 |
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| jelkner | zOnny, good morning | 10:39 |
| jelkner | i think i found a bug | 10:39 |
| jelkner | i just created an event on ORA | 10:39 |
| zOnny | jelkner: good morning | 10:39 |
| jelkner | i can't click on the first RSVP Now button | 10:40 |
| jelkner | there are two | 10:40 |
| jelkner | do we want two? | 10:40 |
| jelkner | can you please look at this now? | 10:40 |
| jelkner | to start your day | 10:40 |
| jelkner | i want to email the committee telling them i RSVPed from my phone | 10:41 |
| jelkner | but first i need to do that ;-) | 10:41 |
| jelkner | replaceafill found the bug | 10:41 |
| replaceafill | zOnny, do you have time to discuss this? | 10:42 |
| zOnny | replaceafill: ok | 10:43 |
| replaceafill | zOnny, hold on, taking screenshot | 10:43 |
| replaceafill | zOnny, https://gitlab.com/novawebdevelopment/novawebdev-ams/issues/53 | 10:46 |
| replaceafill | zOnny, it's the description element below which overlaps the RSVP button | 10:47 |
| replaceafill | zOnny, in the screenshot i'm hovering the description element and you can see how it highlights all that region | 10:47 |
| replaceafill | zOnny, if you delete that element you can click the button | 10:48 |
| zOnny | replaceafill: ok | 10:48 |
| zOnny | replaceafill: on it | 10:48 |
| replaceafill | zOnny, ty | 10:48 |
| replaceafill | zOnny, let me know if you need more work today | 10:48 |
| zOnny | replaceafill: ok | 10:48 |
| replaceafill | zOnny, and please fix these in all of our themes :) | 10:49 |
| zOnny | replaceafill: ok | 10:49 |
| jelkner | zOnny, please let me know when i can rsvp | 11:32 |
| zOnny | jelkner: ok | 11:33 |
| zOnny | jelkner: I mean is ready | 11:34 |
| jelkner | zOnny, thanks! | 11:34 |
| jelkner | i'll try it now | 11:34 |
| zOnny | jelkner: reload it please :/ | 11:34 |
| jelkner | while i do that, zOnny, could you please call Daniela and ask her to meet me here in irc? | 11:35 |
| jelkner | i texted her, but a phone call might help | 11:35 |
| jelkner | doesn't work yet zOnny | 11:36 |
| jelkner | replacefill confirmed that | 11:36 |
| zOnny | jelkner: ok | 11:36 |
| replaceafill | zOnny, did you test this locally? | 11:37 |
| zOnny | replaceafill: is the RSVP functional ? | 11:38 |
| replaceafill | zOnny, yes | 11:38 |
| replaceafill | zOnny, https://ourrevolutionarlington.us/help-files/how-enable-rsvp-event/ | 11:38 |
| zOnny | replaceafill: once I hover it should appear the pointer ? | 11:38 |
| replaceafill | zOnny, the hand cursor, yes | 11:39 |
| replaceafill | zOnny, over teh button | 11:39 |
| replaceafill | zOnny, have you set rsvp for any event yet? | 11:39 |
| replaceafill | zOnny, in your local instance? | 11:39 |
| zOnny | replaceafill: I see | 11:40 |
| replaceafill | zOnny, once you set rsvp for one of your events you'll see two buttons... for some reason i can't explain :) | 11:41 |
| zOnny | replaceafill: it wasn't the event details at all | 11:41 |
| replaceafill | zOnny, did you test it locally? | 11:43 |
| replaceafill | zOnny, you and mr_german are the CSS residents, but according to my limited understanding what's messing everything up is the clearfix class in that wrapper | 11:45 |
| replaceafill | ACTION goes back to work | 11:46 |
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| diza | jelkner, hello | 11:46 |
| jelkner | good morning, diza! | 11:46 |
| diza | jelkner, how are you? | 11:46 |
| jelkner | i'm having a great time here with mr_german and replaceafill! | 11:47 |
| jelkner | how are you? | 11:47 |
| jelkner | btw. did you receive my text, or did zOnny's phone call get you here? | 11:47 |
| diza | jelkner, I'm good, yes and yes | 11:48 |
| jelkner | so you got the phone call first, then you saw the text? | 11:48 |
| jelkner | i'm just trying to figure out the most effective way to reach you | 11:48 |
| jelkner | it would be better if i didn't have to bother zOnny | 11:49 |
| jelkner | but i wasn't sure you would see the text | 11:49 |
| diza | jelkner, I get both at the same time | 11:49 |
| jelkner | cool, next time i'll be more patient and not bother zOnny | 11:50 |
| jelkner | anyway, i wanted to talk with you about cooperatives | 11:50 |
| diza | jelkner, ok | 11:51 |
| jelkner | i'm thinking there would be some interest among the community we are trying to reach in good, safe work | 11:51 |
| jelkner | folks who do landscaping work, for example, work for some boss who takes a big chunk of what they earn for himself | 11:51 |
| jelkner | if they were part of a cooperative | 11:52 |
| diza | jelkner, but before I forget it, can you send me by text the phone number of roxan? I text her by facebook but it's better if I call her | 11:52 |
| diza | jelkner, I see, but how it would work? | 11:52 |
| jelkner | sent | 11:53 |
| jelkner | well, we can talk more about that on Tuesday, Sept. 24 | 11:53 |
| jelkner | Are you available to come to this: https://ourrevolutionarlington.us/events/24/ | 11:54 |
| diza | jelkner, yes | 11:54 |
| jelkner | excellent | 11:54 |
| jelkner | i would like to try to build for this event | 11:55 |
| diza | jelkner, sorry no | 11:55 |
| diza | jelkner, I didn't know that it was a monday | 11:55 |
| diza | jelkner, I have class from 6pm to 9pm | 11:55 |
| jelkner | ok, in that case, you have a big organizational challenge in finding other folks from novalaciro who could attend | 11:56 |
| jelkner | people who work in house cleaning, yard work and landscaping, and other labor intensive limited capital required fields of employment | 11:58 |
| diza | jelkner, hmmm ok, the only one who come to my mien is Heylin | 11:58 |
| jelkner | well, ms. novalaciro organizer, you need to change that | 11:58 |
| diza | jelkner, oh ok I see | 11:59 |
| jelkner | since as wonderful as you and heylin are, we can't change the world with only the two of you ;-) | 11:59 |
| diza | jelkner, quick question, how many people could go? | 11:59 |
| jelkner | it is at cafe sazon | 11:59 |
| diza | jelkner, ok | 11:59 |
| jelkner | we have over a month | 12:00 |
| jelkner | but i would really like you to build for this | 12:00 |
| diza | jelkner, I'll think in a list and I'll reach the people as soon I come back | 12:00 |
| jelkner | cool | 12:00 |
| jelkner | you are going to talk to janet, yes? | 12:00 |
| jelkner | she knows a lot of people | 12:00 |
| jelkner | ask her if any of them might be interested in "firing their boss" | 12:01 |
| jelkner | we are going to be hearing about a new law that just passed congress | 12:01 |
| diza | jelkner, I haven't talk with her yet, but I'm planing to meet with her after I get back | 12:01 |
| jelkner | https://www.govtrack.us/congress/bills/115/hr5236 | 12:02 |
| jelkner | and what it could mean for work ownership and employment opportunities | 12:02 |
| jelkner | ok, that's all i have, diza | 12:03 |
| jelkner | now that i know i can text you | 12:03 |
| jelkner | i will if i have anything else | 12:03 |
| jelkner | i'll talk to hrodriguez about this too when school starts | 12:04 |
| diza | jelkner, ok thnaks | 12:04 |
| zOnny | jelkner: test again :/ | 12:17 |
| jelkner | ACTION goes to test | 12:25 |
| replaceafill | zOnny, works for me | 12:25 |
| replaceafill | zOnny, did you test locally this time? :) | 12:26 |
| zOnny | replaceafill: I couldn't | 12:27 |
| zOnny | replaceafill: jeff was in a hurry to test it | 12:27 |
| replaceafill | zOnny, :/ | 12:30 |
| jelkner | zOnny, we have a new challenge for you | 12:30 |
| jelkner | the last button before submit says "RSVP" | 12:30 |
| jelkner | that is confusing | 12:30 |
| jelkner | it should say "Continue" | 12:30 |
| jelkner | replaceafill says that is in tendenci core | 12:31 |
| jelkner | and needs to be changed there | 12:31 |
| jelkner | so we need to file a pull request | 12:31 |
| zOnny | jelkner: on it | 12:31 |
| jelkner | do you know how to do that? | 12:31 |
| zOnny | jelkner: I guess | 12:31 |
| jelkner | a pull request i mean | 12:31 |
| jelkner | you guess? | 12:31 |
| jelkner | guessing probably won't work | 12:32 |
| zOnny | jelkner: I mean I will look on that | 12:32 |
| jelkner | you'll need to know ;-) | 12:32 |
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| zOnny | jelkner: Do you want "continue" in all of the Instances ? | 12:33 |
| zOnny | zOnny: yes | 12:33 |
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| jelkner | zOnny, lelkneralfaro do we have a square logo i could use as an "avatar"? | 13:10 |
| lelkneralfaro | What's an avatar? | 13:11 |
| replaceafill | jelkner, https://novawebdevelopment.org/files/200/ | 13:14 |
| zOnny | jelkner: you mean like this https://imgur.com/a/YKuwzZW | 13:54 |
| jelkner | zOnny, replaceafill already gave me what i need | 14:02 |
| jelkner | lelkneralfaro, what are you working on now? | 14:02 |
| jelkner | zOnny, ask replaceafill about pull requests | 14:03 |
| jelkner | hrodriguez, how are you? | 14:03 |
| zOnny | replaceafill: ? | 14:05 |
| replaceafill | zOnny, yes? | 14:05 |
| zOnny | replaceafill: pull request ? | 14:05 |
| replaceafill | zOnny, what about it? | 14:05 |
| zOnny | replaceafill: ^ | 14:05 |
| replaceafill | zOnny, i don't understand what you mean | 14:05 |
| replaceafill | zOnny, by just symbols | 14:05 |
| jelkner | https://liberapay.com/novawebdev | 14:06 |
| hrodriguez | jelkner, I'm fine | 14:07 |
| hrodriguez | and YOu jelkner | 14:07 |
| zOnny | replaceafill: jeff mentioned about pull request | 14:07 |
| replaceafill | zOnny, jelkner could you point me to the issue you're discussing? | 14:08 |
| replaceafill | jelkner, lelkneralfaro should we delete all the current elections in the NWD site? | 14:11 |
| replaceafill | jelkner, lelkneralfaro i see 19 at the moment | 14:11 |
| lelkneralfaro | replaceafill, thats fine with me | 14:11 |
| replaceafill | lelkneralfaro, cool | 14:12 |
| lelkneralfaro | replaceafill, most are just tests | 14:12 |
| replaceafill | jelkner, should we delete all the current elections in the NWD site? | 14:12 |
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| lelkneralfaro | jelkner, i think product description, comparison and pricing are what i should work on now. | 14:15 |
| jelkner | lelkneralfaro, i agree, but our website is the place to start | 14:16 |
| jelkner | i'm setting up crowdfunding accounts | 14:17 |
| jelkner | as i do, lelkneralfaro, i realize our website is out of date | 14:17 |
| jelkner | on two major counts: | 14:17 |
| jelkner | 1. it doesn't mention our biggest feature, online voting | 14:17 |
| jelkner | 2. we should say we offer Django development services in addition to tendenci | 14:18 |
| jelkner | we may need to take some Django gigs to tide us over while we build support for our organizing platform | 14:18 |
| jelkner | i talked to replaceafill about this, and he agreed | 14:18 |
| lelkneralfaro | Sounds good to me | 14:19 |
| jelkner | in fact, we are banking on gallaudet for one such gig, or we likely won't survive the next few months, as you knoiw | 14:19 |
| jelkner | can you do the website? | 14:19 |
| lelkneralfaro | jelkner, sure | 14:20 |
| jelkner | i'm working on the crowdfunding accounts and our presentation for philadelphia | 14:20 |
| jelkner | btw. any word from gallaudet? | 14:20 |
| lelkneralfaro | Nope sent another email yesterday. No response | 14:21 |
| jelkner | ok, thanks | 14:22 |
| replaceafill | jelkner, lelkneralfaro election data in NWD deleted | 14:24 |
| replaceafill | jelkner, lelkneralfaro let me know if something crashes because of it :) | 14:24 |
| replaceafill | jelkner, lelkneralfaro i saved a snapshot before deleting, just in case | 14:25 |
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| replaceafill | ACTION goes to get lunch, bb in ~40 | 14:43 |
| jelkner | lelkneralfaro, i just emailed ubuntourist | 15:10 |
| jelkner | asking him for a meeting time | 15:10 |
| jelkner | we need a name for our platform | 15:10 |
| jelkner | replaceafill has been calling it "Frankenstein" | 15:10 |
| jelkner | that's fine for internal use, but not for marketing ;-) | 15:11 |
| lelkneralfaro | Open Organize | 15:11 |
| jelkner | i like that | 15:12 |
| jelkner | i was thinking of eUnion Organizer | 15:12 |
| jelkner | we should come up with a list, and send it to folks at AEA for feedback | 15:13 |
| lelkneralfaro | +1 | 15:15 |
| replaceafill | ACTION is back | 15:32 |
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| jelkner | why ubuntourist, so wonderful to see you sir! | 15:59 |
| jelkner | i'm in the middle of writing up my daily summary email | 15:59 |
| ubuntourist | Hail. And Sleet even. | 15:59 |
| jelkner | but i was hoping for your input on something | 15:59 |
| jelkner | we need a name for "Frankenstein" | 15:59 |
| ubuntourist | I gathered... | 16:00 |
| jelkner | lelkneralfaro and i have come up with two: | 16:00 |
| jelkner | Open Organize | 16:00 |
| jelkner | eUnion Organizer | 16:00 |
| jelkner | we agreed to put a few more on the list | 16:00 |
| jelkner | and send it to our current users for feedback | 16:00 |
| ubuntourist | I just read the message a few minutes ago, and got on to IRC. I haven't yet had time to consider. While both yours are descriptive, and you (and Guido) have made the case against names like "Python", | 16:01 |
| jelkner | we want something that immediately resonates with our target customer base | 16:02 |
| ubuntourist | there's still something to be said for the slightly out-of-the-ordinary, IF it can still capture the essence. | 16:02 |
| jelkner | they should hear the name and think, "yeah, that's what i'm looking for" | 16:03 |
| jelkner | sure, my friend, through something clever on the list | 16:03 |
| jelkner | we'll setup a vote for our users | 16:03 |
| jelkner | i'm particularly interested in what folks at AEA think, since they will be helping us market | 16:04 |
| jelkner | actually, involving them in the naming process is a form of marketing | 16:04 |
| ubuntourist | (I mean, Pascal, Django, Tendenci, Helios, all leave me with a "What?" whereas "FORmula TRANslator (FORTRAN), and "COmmon Business Oriented Language" (COBOL) decypher into meaning, but are distinct. | 16:04 |
| jelkner | since it helps them feel that the platform is "theirs" | 16:04 |
| jelkner | i personally think we want a name that immediately suggests what its for | 16:05 |
| ubuntourist | So... Is there a made-up word that keeps "Organize" or "Organizer" central and easily extractable? | 16:05 |
| jelkner | but i may be wrong, so let's put out several choices and see what our users think | 16:05 |
| jelkner | ah, a backcronym | 16:06 |
| jelkner | only you could do that | 16:06 |
| jelkner | that's why i asked for your input | 16:06 |
| ubuntourist | "Pre-zacktly" | 16:06 |
| ubuntourist | ;-) | 16:06 |
| jelkner | anyway, i think monday is a good deadline to have the list | 16:07 |
| ubuntourist | So. Yes. My mind is searching for a backronym that is not so clever as to occlude the meaning and purpose of the product. | 16:07 |
| jelkner | super | 16:07 |
| jelkner | in other news, lelkneralfaro has written to our friends at gallaudet twice | 16:07 |
| jelkner | no reply | 16:07 |
| jelkner | i'm sure that won't surprise you | 16:08 |
| ubuntourist | Blast. | 16:08 |
| jelkner | but we really need to know by august end that we have a contract | 16:08 |
| jelkner | we can take out a short loan at that point as soon as the ink is dry | 16:08 |
| ubuntourist | I will try to stop by and badger in person on the way to Dragana's office. | 16:08 |
| jelkner | but without the contract, it will be too risky | 16:08 |
| jelkner | sweet | 16:09 |
| jelkner | thanks! | 16:09 |
| jelkner | lastly, i plan to start on our presentation tomorrow for FOSSCON | 16:09 |
| jelkner | how do you want to handle that? | 16:09 |
| jelkner | should i create a first draft and send it to you? | 16:10 |
| ubuntourist | That sounds better than any alternative I can come up with. ;-) | 16:10 |
| jelkner | cool | 16:10 |
| jelkner | i'll do that | 16:10 |
| jelkner | oh, i lied, one more last thing | 16:10 |
| jelkner | could i interest you into crossing the river to come to this: https://ourrevolutionarlington.us/events/24/ | 16:11 |
| jelkner | tim and detta at ora are on board with helping us do outreach and marketing | 16:12 |
| jelkner | this guest speaker not only is connected with the famous mondragon cooperative | 16:12 |
| ubuntourist | Let me look in a second at that. Meanwhile, any plans re: ACC computers at Gallaudet? (I haven't heard / read anything on that score since traveling north.) | 16:12 |
| jelkner | but he has been working on this new legislation that apparently passed recently to support worker ownership | 16:13 |
| jelkner | ahh yes, i thought i sent you a "we don't have a life" proposal | 16:13 |
| jelkner | so show up either sunday or monday of labor day weekend | 16:13 |
| ubuntourist | So you did. | 16:13 |
| ubuntourist | Right. Just slipped my mind. | 16:14 |
| jelkner | yeah, i'm loosing my mind too ;-) | 16:14 |
| jelkner | well, your call | 16:14 |
| ubuntourist | My call as to which day to pick up computers? | 16:15 |
| jelkner | yes | 16:15 |
| jelkner | sunday or monday | 16:15 |
| jelkner | cafeteria is open both days | 16:15 |
| jelkner | since students are back | 16:15 |
| jelkner | i think | 16:15 |
| ubuntourist | No strong preferences, but I'll go with Sunday, since Monday nights are Microcontroller Mondays at HacDC, theoretically including holidays. | 16:16 |
| jelkner | cool | 16:16 |
| jelkner | ACTION adds "Go to Gallaudet" to his calendar for sunday, sept. 2 | 16:17 |
| ubuntourist | I need to get out of here shortly for 3D Thursday at HacDC. | 16:17 |
| jelkner | can you please confirm about the cafeteria? | 16:17 |
| jelkner | sure, we're done for now | 16:17 |
| jelkner | thanks! | 16:17 |
| jelkner | but please check on the cafeteria | 16:17 |
| jelkner | i'll assume it is open and show up at 9 am for breakfast | 16:17 |
| jelkner | later, ubuntourist | 16:18 |
| ubuntourist | Well, this year, there has been food on the weekend, and it moved back to the cafeteria | 16:18 |
| jelkner | oh | 16:18 |
| ubuntourist | (food all summer, I mean.) | 16:18 |
| jelkner | so never mind that | 16:18 |
| jelkner | i can assume its open | 16:18 |
| jelkner | thanks | 16:18 |
| ubuntourist | The hours had been somewhat contracted but I imagine it will be back to normal by then. I'll check. | 16:18 |
| jelkner | i'll look on the website | 16:19 |
| jelkner | don't be late for hacdc | 16:19 |
| jelkner | and thanks again | 16:19 |
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