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| mjsir911 | !remind | 09:58 |
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| Big_Brother | Discuss viability of Open Collective and Stripe for financial management | 09:58 |
| Big_Brother | Are GitLab pages usable by mere mortals, or should I be directing students to GitHub pages? | 09:58 |
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| jelkner | !remind | 10:09 |
| Big_Brother | Discuss viability of Open Collective and Stripe for financial management | 10:09 |
| Big_Brother | Are GitLab pages usable by mere mortals, or should I be directing students to GitHub pages? | 10:09 |
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| jelkner | Good morning, replaceafill! | 10:13 |
| replaceafill | jelkner, good morning | 10:13 |
| jelkner | zOnny, mjsir911, ubuntourist and i are all here at gallaudet | 10:13 |
| zOnny | good morning jelkner | 10:14 |
| jelkner | zOnny, we already said good morning in the car | 10:14 |
| zOnny | jelkner: right :D | 10:15 |
| zOnny | mjsir911: this is what I have done with gitlab pages https://edzon.quinteros.gitlab.io/monarch-butterfly | 10:16 |
| zOnny | mjsir911: this is still in progress not done yet :( | 10:17 |
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| mjsir911 | replaceafill: I think i've already asked this but I cant find it in the logs, which schooltool version is currently in use? aka which one should I focus on containerizing? | 10:23 |
| replaceafill | mjsir911, i think it's 2.8 https://launchpad.net/~schooltool-owners/+archive/ubuntu/2.8 | 10:24 |
| replaceafill | mjsir911, but you should confirm that with Glenda | 10:24 |
| mjsir911 | Alright, thanks | 10:24 |
| replaceafill | mjsir911, http://www.cteresource.org/CanDo/phase2install.html "Software Install" | 10:25 |
| mjsir911 | Thank you, that's what I need | 10:28 |
| ubuntourist | !remind | 10:33 |
| Big_Brother | Discuss viability of Open Collective and Stripe for financial management | 10:33 |
| Big_Brother | Are GitLab pages usable by mere mortals, or should I be directing students to GitHub pages? | 10:33 |
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| ubuntourist | !remind ARA progress report? Douglas if available? with supporting comments from me (Ubuntourist)? | 10:43 |
| Big_Brother | "ARA progress report? Douglas if available? with supporting comments from me (Ubuntourist)?" added to message queue | 10:43 |
| Big_Brother | Discuss viability of Open Collective and Stripe for financial management | 11:00 |
| Big_Brother | Are GitLab pages usable by mere mortals, or should I be directing students to GitHub pages? | 11:00 |
| Big_Brother | ARA progress report? Douglas if available? with supporting comments from me (Ubuntourist)? | 11:00 |
| ubuntourist | Ssssshowtime !! | 11:00 |
| jelkner | good morning all | 11:00 |
| jelkner | i guess i'll chair this meeting | 11:00 |
| replaceafill | good morning | 11:00 |
| jelkner | since we didn' talk about it | 11:00 |
| ubuntourist | I'll bed this meeting. | 11:00 |
| jelkner | but we should rotate the chair | 11:00 |
| jelkner | replaceafill needs to get to santa ana | 11:00 |
| jelkner | so let's move it | 11:00 |
| jelkner | last item first | 11:00 |
| jelkner | replaceafill and ubuntourist | 11:01 |
| jelkner | replaceafill and ubuntourist? | 11:01 |
| ubuntourist | replaceafill, you go and I'll fill in if needed. | 11:01 |
| replaceafill | ok, we had a good meeting with Senda on Friday | 11:01 |
| replaceafill | i've been having trouble understanding how they use the applications we support | 11:02 |
| replaceafill | not the technology part, but the user point of view | 11:02 |
| jelkner | that's going to be lelkneralfaro's task, yes? | 11:02 |
| jelkner | with help from ubuntourist, but primarily him | 11:02 |
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| replaceafill | yeah, but i guess it's also hard to redirect these kind of explanations | 11:03 |
| ubuntourist | (The gods of bandwidth smiled on us, and so, replaceafill was able to see through Senda's eyes as she worked through some of the issues.) | 11:03 |
| replaceafill | :) | 11:03 |
| ubuntourist | (Screensharing) | 11:03 |
| replaceafill | and to me it seems they really don't understand how the two systems interact with each other | 11:04 |
| jelkner | so, obviously, this is by far our most urgent task | 11:04 |
| replaceafill | like how marking something in one system affects the other | 11:04 |
| replaceafill | s/marking/doing | 11:04 |
| jelkner | i am assuming lelkneralfaro is scheduling himself to come on campus to work with them? | 11:04 |
| jelkner | i don't need the details | 11:04 |
| replaceafill | but after Friday i feel more confident on use being able to support them | 11:04 |
| jelkner | since i can't help with those | 11:05 |
| jelkner | but i want to help keep focus on the process | 11:05 |
| ubuntourist | replaceafill, I concur: *I* don't know how the two systems interact, having seen CLIPPR (Drupal) for the first time Friday when Senda demo'd for you. | 11:05 |
| jelkner | an email to brian is in order? | 11:05 |
| replaceafill | jelkner, that's the funny part, i think i understand them "well enough" | 11:05 |
| replaceafill | jelkner, again, this is a people problem for me | 11:06 |
| jelkner | so, since we have a 30 minute "stand up" meeting | 11:06 |
| replaceafill | sure | 11:06 |
| jelkner | let's not get into the weeds | 11:06 |
| replaceafill | we're in a good shape, that's it | 11:06 |
| jelkner | just a who needs to do what this week | 11:06 |
| replaceafill | :) | 11:06 |
| replaceafill | Gallaudet is my #1 priority | 11:06 |
| jelkner | +1 | 11:06 |
| ubuntourist | Yeah, Senda was under the impression it was multiple databases -- one for Drupal, one for Django, but I could see it wasn't. | 11:06 |
| replaceafill | so i'll be waiting to hear from them | 11:07 |
| replaceafill | thanks a lot for your support ubuntourist | 11:07 |
| jelkner | we couldn't have done this without him | 11:07 |
| replaceafill | +1 | 11:07 |
| jelkner | ok, next item? | 11:07 |
| replaceafill | go | 11:08 |
| jelkner | continuing backwards, zOnny already told me he would write up gitlab pages instructions | 11:08 |
| jelkner | so, next item | 11:08 |
| jelkner | replaceafill, now that we have two novalaciro organizers | 11:08 |
| jelkner | we need to figure out email for them | 11:08 |
| jelkner | and i want to better use Libre Organize | 11:09 |
| replaceafill | jelkner, i never heard back about creating an inbox for heylin | 11:09 |
| jelkner | our long term goal | 11:09 |
| jelkner | can you and i schedule time this week for that? | 11:09 |
| replaceafill | jelkner, sure | 11:09 |
| replaceafill | jelkner, not monday if possible | 11:09 |
| replaceafill | jelkner, since monday's are surprising | 11:09 |
| jelkner | tuesday? | 11:10 |
| replaceafill | jelkner, +1 | 11:10 |
| jelkner | around 5 pm? | 11:10 |
| replaceafill | jelkner, how do you want to use Libre Organzies "better" with them? | 11:10 |
| replaceafill | jelkner, sure | 11:10 |
| jelkner | cool, i'll put that on my calendar | 11:10 |
| jelkner | ok, next item | 11:10 |
| jelkner | replaceafill, the viability of open collective and stripe could go on our tuesday meeting too | 11:11 |
| jelkner | it would be great if lelkneralfaro could join us for that | 11:12 |
| replaceafill | jelkner, yes | 11:12 |
| jelkner | we need a way for folks do donate to us | 11:12 |
| jelkner | that's the bottom line | 11:12 |
| jelkner | anyway, i'll add that to the tuesday agenda | 11:12 |
| jelkner | related to that is the other item | 11:13 |
| jelkner | i plan to go to educon | 11:13 |
| jelkner | and as soon as we figure out crowd funding | 11:13 |
| jelkner | i'll start hitting the road | 11:13 |
| jelkner | making the circuit | 11:14 |
| jelkner | but i can't do that until we can ask for funds and get them | 11:14 |
| jelkner | so that problem is really important | 11:14 |
| jelkner | if we get either (or both) of the liberia gigs | 11:14 |
| jelkner | we will be set for a long time | 11:14 |
| jelkner | but we still want to keep developing libre organize | 11:14 |
| jelkner | so the problem needs to be solved | 11:15 |
| jelkner | that's all i have to say on all of that | 11:15 |
| jelkner | anyone else have anything? | 11:15 |
| replaceafill | makes sense | 11:15 |
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| ubuntourist | Well. That was special. (I didn't know I was gone.) | 11:16 |
| jelkner | i'm going to encourage others beside ubuntourist and me to post agenda items | 11:16 |
| replaceafill | mr_german, could you give a report of where you are with your tasks? | 11:16 |
| replaceafill | mr_german, i haven't heard from you since we last met | 11:16 |
| jelkner | and the advantage of not having lelkneralfaro here is that is forces us to do what we should do anyway | 11:16 |
| jelkner | teach everyone to chair these meetings | 11:16 |
| jelkner | to me the goal is to move them *fast* | 11:16 |
| jelkner | so that we finish in 30 minutes or less | 11:16 |
| mr_german | replaceafill, taks? | 11:17 |
| jelkner | and no one is bored | 11:17 |
| jelkner | and we get the essential "heartbeat" check-in we need to keep moving | 11:17 |
| replaceafill | mr_german, you have some issues assigned, right? | 11:17 |
| mr_german | replaceafill, well, i have some issues missing | 11:17 |
| mr_german | replaceafill, yes | 11:17 |
| mr_german | replaceafill, need to work with them | 11:17 |
| replaceafill | mr_german, ok | 11:18 |
| replaceafill | mr_german, let me know if you get stuck | 11:18 |
| replaceafill | jelkner, i'm afraid we're wasting mr_german's time | 11:18 |
| replaceafill | jelkner, i mean, mr_german availability | 11:18 |
| jelkner | what do you mean? | 11:18 |
| replaceafill | jelkner, we can talk about that tuesday too | 11:18 |
| jelkner | sure | 11:18 |
| jelkner | i don't know what you mean | 11:19 |
| jelkner | so i'll send an email with my two items | 11:19 |
| zOnny | replaceafill: I have some tasks pending as well | 11:19 |
| jelkner | and you can reply with yours | 11:19 |
| replaceafill | jelkner, sure | 11:19 |
| jelkner | i just asked zOnny if he would chair the meeting next week | 11:19 |
| replaceafill | zOnny, i know, but you're working on some other projects, right? | 11:19 |
| zOnny | jelkner: sure | 11:19 |
| jelkner | thanks! | 11:20 |
| jelkner | ok, if there is nothing else | 11:20 |
| jelkner | we can end 10 minutes early? | 11:20 |
| replaceafill | ACTION done | 11:20 |
| zOnny | replaceafill: I have almost done with the other customer already | 11:20 |
| ubuntourist | I hope to explore SOLID. | 11:20 |
| ubuntourist | Nothing more there. | 11:21 |
| ubuntourist | (I mean nothing more to say.) | 11:21 |
| jelkner | ACTION drops the bag of gravel | 11:21 |
| replaceafill | :) | 11:21 |
| mjsir911 | nothing from me, on the topic of SOLID, ive been exploring ipfs | 11:21 |
| jelkner | nrcerna, are you here? | 11:21 |
| nrcerna | Yes, I'm here jelkner | 11:22 |
| jelkner | nrcerna, did you get my email? | 11:22 |
| nrcerna | Yes I got it jelkner | 11:22 |
| jelkner | any questions? | 11:22 |
| nrcerna | I think all was clear , thanks jelkner | 11:23 |
| jelkner | cool | 11:23 |
| ubuntourist | (IPFS = Inter-Planetary File System, along with SOLID and Linked Data Platform -- LDP in Django. All 3 vaguely related.) | 11:23 |
| jelkner | btw. everyone, we should hear news from isaac this week | 11:23 |
| replaceafill | jelkner, i hope we get the mobile app one :) | 11:26 |
| replaceafill | oh btw | 11:26 |
| replaceafill | some recommended readings, i think mandatory for zOnny and mr_german: | 11:26 |
| replaceafill | https://github.com/grab/front-end-guide | 11:26 |
| replaceafill | https://github.com/yangshun/front-end-interview-handbook/blob/master/questions/javascript-questions.md | 11:26 |
| replaceafill | zOnny, mr_german if we get the mobile app gig, understanding front end will be crucial | 11:28 |
| zOnny | replaceafill: I see | 11:28 |
| mr_german | replaceafill, mm | 11:29 |
| replaceafill | mr_german, this is what we discussed a couple of months ago: https://github.com/yangshun/front-end-interview-handbook/blob/master/questions/javascript-questions.md#explain-why-the-following-doesnt-work-as-an-iife-function-foo--what-needs-to-be-changed-to-properly-make-it-an-iife | 11:29 |
| replaceafill | mr_german, i finally realized that pattern has a name: iife | 11:30 |
| replaceafill | ubuntourist, quick question | 11:31 |
| replaceafill | ubuntourist, do you know Susan Larrison from Gallaudet? | 11:32 |
| ubuntourist | replaceafill, Nay. | 11:32 |
| replaceafill | ubuntourist, ah ok | 11:32 |
| replaceafill | zOnny, mr_german another one for you: https://www.reddit.com/r/learnprogramming/comments/9j3oi5/after_9_months_of_teaching_myself_how_to_program/ | 11:34 |
| replaceafill | a bit verbose but some good advice there | 11:34 |
| ubuntourist | By the way, Charles "Chip" Reilly sent me this on LinkedIn -- https://developers.google.com/search/docs/data-types/dataset | 11:35 |
| replaceafill | mr_german, the "10) Don't learn from videos" reminded me of you :) | 11:35 |
| zOnny | replaceafill: 10 ? uhmmm | 11:35 |
| ubuntourist | And I replied I'd been using microdata already (see https://schema.org/) | 11:35 |
| ubuntourist | I used microdata before becoming a NOVA Web Development consultant. See: | 11:36 |
| ubuntourist | See https://seositecheckup.com/tools/microdata-schema-test | 11:37 |
| ubuntourist | and feed it a page I did. For example: https://research.gallaudet.edu/ara | 11:37 |
| zOnny | ubuntourist: this is cool | 11:37 |
| ubuntourist | Any opinions on whether or not we should be investing time in adding microdata to our pages? | 11:37 |
| replaceafill | ubuntourist, i noticed them but wasn't sure what they were about | 11:38 |
| replaceafill | ubuntourist, i mean, the attributes | 11:39 |
| replaceafill | ubuntourist, i thought they were to be parsed by "something" | 11:39 |
| replaceafill | they were there* | 11:39 |
| mr_german | replaceafill, :( | 11:40 |
| replaceafill | mr_german, it's just a valid opinion, you should read it (and understand their point) | 11:40 |
| zOnny | ubuntourist: : I just tested our site :( | 11:42 |
| replaceafill | ok, time to go for me | 11:42 |
| replaceafill | ttyl everybody o/ | 11:42 |
| replaceafill | i'll be checking email during the day btw in case you need anything from me | 11:43 |
| ubuntourist | replaceafill, I don't know what parses it. In spite of Google being more evil every day, they still do a lot of innovative stuff that is open and gets used. The page that Chip linked to, plus schema.org... | 11:44 |
| ubuntourist | (Backed by the very corporate / commercial gang. See https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Schema.org) | 11:44 |
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| ubuntourist | which leads to https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/JSON-LD which leads back to the Django LDP thing from earlier today... I *think*. Not sure. | 11:47 |
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| jelkner | top of the day to you, lelkneralfaro | 12:02 |
| lelkneralfaro | jelkner, good afternoon | 12:02 |
| lelkneralfaro | jelkner, couldn't make it earlier but I saw on the agenda that you said you wanted to discuss the viability of open collective | 12:03 |
| jelkner | can you meet with replaceafill and me at 5 pm on tuesday, lelkneralfaro? | 12:03 |
| jelkner | look at the log | 12:03 |
| lelkneralfaro | jelkner, yes, about what | 12:03 |
| jelkner | look at the log | 12:03 |
| jelkner | it's short | 12:03 |
| lelkneralfaro | jelkner, I've read it, I don't see anything about open collective | 12:04 |
| jelkner | i said to replaceafill we would discuss that and ask you to join us | 12:04 |
| lelkneralfaro | jelkner, i see you are talking about LibreOrganize | 12:04 |
| jelkner | that too | 12:04 |
| lelkneralfaro | jelkner, not Open Collective | 12:04 |
| jelkner | both | 12:05 |
| lelkneralfaro | jelkner, oh I see that line now | 12:05 |
| lelkneralfaro | jelkner, okay yeah Tuesday at 5:00 PM Works | 12:05 |
| jelkner | i just talked to mjsir911 | 12:05 |
| jelkner | to see if he could look too | 12:05 |
| jelkner | to try to understand it | 12:05 |
| jelkner | since i basically am a customer who wants to donate | 12:05 |
| jelkner | i'm just waiting for someone to tell me how | 12:05 |
| lelkneralfaro | jelkner, I'll have that ready for you soon | 12:06 |
| jelkner | cool | 12:06 |
| lelkneralfaro | jelkner, I think it should work. there are some problems with support and ease of use | 12:06 |
| lelkneralfaro | jelkner, but I think it should work | 12:06 |
| jelkner | ease of use is crucial | 12:06 |
| jelkner | since if i am going to ask others to donate | 12:06 |
| jelkner | they need to be able to without frustration | 12:06 |
| lelkneralfaro | jelkner, as a donor I don't think it will be difficult | 12:06 |
| jelkner | my hope was the pain would be on our side | 12:06 |
| jelkner | and that once we set it up | 12:07 |
| lelkneralfaro | jelkner, as an admin I've had some issues | 12:07 |
| jelkner | it would be dead simple for others | 12:07 |
| lelkneralfaro | jelkner, +1 | 12:07 |
| jelkner | cool | 12:07 |
| jelkner | btw. see my email about the deposits yesterday? | 12:07 |
| lelkneralfaro | jelkner, okay I just wanted to weigh in on that. Tuesday at 5:00 works | 12:07 |
| lelkneralfaro | jelkner, yeah | 12:07 |
| jelkner | i called mark | 12:07 |
| lelkneralfaro | jelkner, I saw the email | 12:07 |
| jelkner | i may have to keep bugging him | 12:07 |
| jelkner | but the $300 is enought to pay you and zOnny | 12:08 |
| jelkner | so when the $400 comes in, it will be a jump on october | 12:08 |
| lelkneralfaro | jelkner, +1 | 12:08 |
| lelkneralfaro | jelkner, and we have $1890 coming in from Gallaudet soon. we put the first invoice in | 12:08 |
| jelkner | nice! | 12:08 |
| ubuntourist | lelkneralfaro, Got an invoice for you for Christian. Coming your way in a minute (and also will post to Google Drive.) End of Fiscal Year affects him too. | 12:08 |
| jelkner | we will need that | 12:08 |
| lelkneralfaro | ubuntourist, cool I'll send that in tomorrow | 12:09 |
| jelkner | ok, back to work for me | 12:09 |
| jelkner | need anything else from me before i go, lelkneralfaro? | 12:09 |
| lelkneralfaro | jelkner, cool thanks everyone. I'm signing off again | 12:09 |
| lelkneralfaro | jelkner, nope | 12:09 |
| lelkneralfaro | see ya | 12:10 |
| jelkner | later hijo | 12:10 |
| jelkner | \me signs off so he can learn postgres | 12:10 |
| jelkner | ACTION signs off so he can learn postgres | 12:10 |
| mjsir911 | ubuntourist: https://docs.gitlab.com/ee/user/project/service_desk.html | 14:06 |
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