IRC log of #novawebdev for Saturday, 2018-09-29

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jelkner!remind Discuss viability of Open Collective and Stripe for financial management08:25
Big_Brother"Discuss viability of Open Collective and Stripe for financial management" added to message queue08:25
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Big_Brotherhi 08:26
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jelknerGood morning, zOnny!10:58
zOnnygood morning jelkner 10:58
jelkner!remind How can we better utilize Libre Organize in NOVALACIRO?10:59
Big_Brother"How can we better utilize Libre Organize in NOVALACIRO?" added to message queue10:59
jelkner!remind10:59
Big_Brotherhi 10:59
jelkner!remind Educon and Pycon: Changing the World with Python11:38
Big_Brother"Educon and Pycon: Changing the World with Python" added to message queue11:38
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Big_Brotherhi 11:38
jelkner!remind Revisit organizational emails for NOVALACIRO?11:53
Big_Brother"Revisit organizational emails for NOVALACIRO?" added to message queue11:53
jelkner!remind11:53
Big_Brotherhi 11:53
Big_BrotherRevisit organizational emails for NOVALACIRO? 11:53
jelkner!remind Are GitLab pages usable by mere mortals, or should I be directing students to GitHub pages?12:11
Big_Brother"Are GitLab pages usable by mere mortals, or should I be directing students to GitHub pages?" added to message queue12:11
jelkner!remind12:11
Big_Brotherhi 12:11
Big_BrotherRevisit organizational emails for NOVALACIRO? 12:11
Big_BrotherAre GitLab pages usable by mere mortals, or should I be directing students to GitHub pages? 12:11
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zOnnyhey replaceafill 13:18
replaceafillhello zOnny13:18
zOnnyreplaceafill: busy ?13:18
replaceafillzOnny, what do you need?13:18
zOnnyreplaceafill: I was thinking about my project13:19
replaceafillzOnny, ok13:19
zOnnyreplaceafill: I have seen that tendenci can do these surveys as well13:20
replaceafillzOnny, in forums?13:20
zOnnyreplaceafill: in forms 13:21
replaceafillzOnny, ok13:21
zOnnyreplaceafill: having a nother server, should I keep my project as a new branch as well13:22
replaceafillzOnny, i'm fine with that13:23
zOnnyreplaceafill: what is the other way ?13:23
zOnnyreplaceafill: I was thinking on it since yesterday13:23
replaceafillzOnny, it's your decision13:24
replaceafillzOnny, do whatever is convenient *for you*13:24
zOnnyreplaceafill: having a fork will work as well?13:25
zOnnyreplaceafill: in terms of CI 13:25
replaceafillzOnny, there's nothing special about CI13:25
replaceafillzOnny, if you're doing it through gitlab, you should read their CI documentation13:26
zOnnyreplaceafill: ok13:26
replaceafillzOnny, you understand a fork becomes a different gitlab "project", right?13:27
replaceafillzOnny, so all the variables and settings are gone13:27
zOnnyreplaceafill: that is what I was wondering 13:27
replaceafillzOnny, if you want to keep this separate from nova's crap, you could use our CI as reference but build your own13:28
replaceafillzOnny, it's not very hard13:28
zOnnyreplaceafill: does not seem a good move13:28
replaceafillzOnny, and you have Marco around to help you13:28
replaceafillzOnny, again, your call :)13:28
zOnnyreplaceafill: I have explored the gitlab pages already13:29
replaceafillzOnny, cool13:30
replaceafillzOnny, we have some bylaws repo somewhere with pages setup iirc13:30
replaceafillzOnny, in case you need "real world" (ha!) examples13:30
zOnnyreplaceafill: cool that will help13:31
zOnnyreplaceafill: the fork  will break updates from novawebdev, yes?13:32
replaceafillzOnny, hm?13:32
zOnnyreplaceafill: unless I do git pull --upstream master ?13:33
replaceafillzOnny, i don't understand what you're asking13:33
zOnnyreplaceafill: me neither13:33
replaceafillzOnny, then don't ask those kind of questions...13:33
zOnnyreplaceafill: I will figure out it 13:34
zOnnyreplaceafill: another question13:34
zOnnyreplaceafill: I have already changed the linode name of fipol 13:34
replaceafillzOnny, ok13:35
zOnnyreplaceafill: but it keeps with the linode1.....13:35
zOnnyreplaceafill: should I reboot ?13:35
replaceafillzOnny, what linode name are you referring to?13:36
zOnnyreplaceafill: in the linode manager 13:36
zOnnyreplaceafill: did you see fipol? or linode1.....?13:37
replaceafillzOnny, you mean, the display label?13:37
zOnnyreplaceafill: yes13:37
replaceafillzOnny, sigh...13:37
replaceafillzOnny, then don't say "linode name"13:37
replaceafillzOnny, that doesn't make any sense13:37
zOnnyreplaceafill: ok13:37
replaceafillzOnny, use the right terms13:37
zOnnyreplaceafill: the linode label13:37
replaceafillzOnny, you didn't change it13:38
zOnnyreplaceafill: uhm?13:38
replaceafillzOnny, or... you didn't change it successfully13:38
replaceafillzOnny, it's still the default13:39
zOnnyreplaceafill: :( why ?13:39
zOnnyreplaceafill: if you see it in the dashboard it says fipol13:39
zOnnyreplaceafill: I was about to reboot :D13:40
replaceafillzOnny, you changed the "configuration profile label"...13:40
replaceafillzOnny, not the linode's display label13:40
zOnnyreplaceafill: o.O?13:40
replaceafillzOnny, the linode's display label is under the linode's settings13:40
zOnnyreplaceafill: :)13:41
zOnnyreplaceafill: thanks 13:41
zOnnyreplaceafill: I forgot it13:41
replaceafillzOnny, that means a bug in our doc13:42
replaceafillzOnny, fix that please ^13:42
zOnnyreplaceafill: bug ?13:42
replaceafillzOnny, that's your work, helping you and us and the future us not to trip with this again13:42
replaceafillzOnny, anything you don't understand and figure out it's a bug13:42
replaceafillzOnny, a documentation bug13:42
replaceafillzOnny, we have tons of those13:42
zOnnyreplaceafill: ah13:42
replaceafillzOnny, make a "note" somewhere13:42
replaceafillzOnny, help files are good for that13:43
replaceafillzOnny, "how to set the label of a f****ing linode"13:43
zOnnyreplaceafill: novawebdev's help files ?13:43
replaceafillzOnny, yeah13:43
zOnnyreplaceafill: cool13:43
replaceafillzOnny, thanks13:43
zOnnyreplaceafill: I will13:43
replaceafillzOnny, +113:43
zOnnyreplaceafill: thanks for you time man13:43
replaceafillzOnny, np13:44
replaceafillzOnny, quick question13:44
zOnnyreplaceafill: yes ?13:44
replaceafillzOnny, did you receive an email from linode last night about TendenciTesting?13:44
zOnnyreplaceafill: nope13:45
replaceafillzOnny, i don't see you or mr_german in that thread13:45
replaceafillzOnny, and i want to figure out why13:45
zOnnyreplaceafill: should I received it ?13:46
replaceafillzOnny, ideally13:46
replaceafillzOnny, we should all receive these13:46
zOnnyreplaceafill: ah13:46
replaceafillzOnny, ah, it may be that yours and mr_german linode accounts are limited13:47
replaceafillzOnny, anyway, i'll investigate later, i was just curious, thanks for your time :)13:47
replaceafillACTION done13:47
zOnnyreplaceafill: which linode server should I start with?13:47
replaceafillzOnny, hm?13:48
zOnnyreplaceafill: I am trying to buy one 13:49
replaceafillzOnny, as i told you it depends on what you're planning to run on it13:49
zOnnyreplaceafill: tendenci maybe13:49
replaceafillzOnny, tendenci should work with a 1GB linode13:49
replaceafillzOnny, that's what abby and fipol are using13:50
zOnnyreplaceafill: can I change to more GB later ?13:50
replaceafillzOnny, yes13:50
replaceafillzOnny, you can upgrade (paying more) after you set it up13:50
zOnnyreplaceafill: cool13:50
zOnnyreplaceafill: thanks13:50
replaceafillzOnny, np13:50
zOnnyreplaceafill: where I can see that13:51
replaceafillzOnny, see what?13:51
zOnnyreplaceafill: abby's and fipol's 13:51
zOnnyreplaceafill: memory usage13:52
replaceafillzOnny, in the linode manager13:52
replaceafillzOnny, Plan column13:52
replaceafillzOnny, both use Linode 102413:52
replaceafillzOnny, that's the smallest linode https://www.linode.com/pricing13:52
zOnnyreplaceafill: ok13:53
zOnnyreplaceafill: I cannot find the 102413:54
replaceafillzOnny, 1024 = 1GB13:55
replaceafillzOnny, 2048 = 2GB and so on13:56
zOnnyreplaceafill: Where I can see how how of memory uses abby's13:56
zOnny*much13:56
replaceafillzOnny, in the manager go to /linodes13:56
zOnnyreplaceafill: I am in13:56
replaceafillzOnny, you see a table, right?13:57
zOnnyreplaceafill: Oops!13:57
replaceafillzOnny, with columns Linode, Status, Plan, IP...13:57
zOnnyreplaceafill: I was blind13:57
zOnnyreplaceafill: I see it13:57
replaceafillzOnny, cool13:57
zOnnyreplaceafill: I was in the dashboard13:57
replaceafillzOnny, inside a linode13:58
replaceafillzOnny, you can use the Resize tab to find out its plan13:59
replaceafillzOnny, that's how you upgrade it too13:59
zOnnyreplaceafill: I see13:59
zOnnyreplaceafill: it means if I buy 1024 MB it will only support one tendenci project, yes ?14:01
replaceafillzOnny, well, not really, if you know how to tweak the server configuration you could have many low traffic sites14:02
replaceafillzOnny, but performance would be bad14:02
zOnnyreplaceafill: ah14:02
replaceafillzOnny, it's not just RAM14:02
replaceafillzOnny, it's how many virtual CPUs your server has14:03
replaceafillzOnny, the 1GB has only one core14:03
zOnnyreplaceafill: ah14:03
replaceafillzOnny, and the 2GB is not great either14:03
zOnnyreplaceafill: what you mean?14:04
replaceafillzOnny, i mean that is still one core14:04
zOnnyreplaceafill: ah14:04
zOnnyreplaceafill: I see what you mean14:04
replaceafillzOnny, with some tuning you can get really far14:04
replaceafillzOnny, our problem is that we haven't dedicated much time to it14:05
replaceafillzOnny, for example our themes spit a lot of small individual js/css files14:05
replaceafillzOnny, you could compress all of those14:05
replaceafillzOnny, you could optimize how tendenci uses caching, etc14:05
replaceafillzOnny, some day maybe we'll get there14:05
zOnnyreplaceafill: cool14:06
replaceafillzOnny, that's why you need to up your django game ;)14:06
replaceafillzOnny, so you can do all of that14:06
zOnnyreplaceafill: I see14:06
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