IRC log of #novawebdev for Tuesday, 2018-10-02

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jelknerping, replaceafill 10:54
replaceafilljelkner, pong10:54
jelkneropenning "after a couple of minutes" is not acceptable10:54
replaceafilljelkner, i didn't say it was10:54
jelknerI found that if I opened it with the right tool, libre office perhaps, i could save it again and it was *much* smaller10:55
jelknerthat's what i'm asking nrcerna to do10:55
replaceafilljelkner, you seem to blame on her proprietary tools10:56
jelknershe could, of course, learn to use her proprietary tool better, but that's not what we want ;-)10:56
replaceafilljelkner, which i think it's incorrect10:56
jelknerwell, i don't, since we want her to learn free tools if she wants to work with us10:56
replaceafilljelkner, that's a conversation for nrcerna10:57
jelknerwe had that conversation, my friend10:57
replaceafilljelkner, i've told her many times10:57
replaceafilljelkner, same way i've told mr_german10:57
jelkneri'm just trying to reinforce it now10:57
jelknerso if you want to work together, you aren't helping ;-)10:57
replaceafilljelkner, maybe i should stay out then10:57
jelknerwe need to send her the same message10:57
replaceafilljelkner, i'm good at solving technical issues10:58
jelknerUse free tools!10:58
jelkneryes, all i'm saying, is this10:58
jelknerreplaceafill can help you fix this issue, nrcerna, but only if you use free tools10:58
jelknermake sense?10:58
jelkneri know it *could* be fixed with unfree tools10:59
replaceafilljelkner, not really, i don't get that last part10:59
jelknerbut we won't help10:59
jelkneri'm lost10:59
jelkneri thought you were trying to get them to use free tools10:59
jelknerif so, that's a simple way to do it10:59
replaceafilljelkner, i'm tired of insisting10:59
replaceafilljelkner, i won't go to their house to make them10:59
jelkneri'll help you with your issues, but only if you use free tools10:59
jelkneryou don't have to insist11:00
replaceafilljelkner, to me this is the solution11:00
jelkneryou just setup rules that make them want to do it11:00
replaceafilljelkner, next time you give nrcerna a contract11:00
replaceafilljelkner, just make explicit11:00
replaceafilljelkner, "this needs to be done with pure free software"11:00
replaceafilljelkner, period11:00
jelkner+111:00
replaceafilljelkner, and if you want "upload the sources too"11:00
replaceafilljelkner, so we can modify them later11:00
replaceafilljelkner, but you don't make that explicit at the beginning11:00
replaceafilljelkner, which i think it's the source of the issue11:01
jelkneri'll email the list with more on this11:01
replaceafilljelkner, and i think this is a bit more difficult for nrcerna because unlike mr_german she has not capability to run both environments11:01
jelknerwell, her grumpy uncle should be helping her with that11:01
jelkneri tried to bring laptops to help11:02
jelknerbut they weren't good enough11:02
jelkneri would say that once we can hire her full time11:02
jelknershe simply gets rid of Windo$ altogether and uses free tools11:02
replaceafilljelkner, +111:03
jelknerso we need a liberia contract first11:03
jelknerok, back to class11:03
replaceafilljelkner, cool11:03
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mr_germanreplaceafill, i saw your last message yesterday12:11
mr_germanabout tendenci12:11
mr_germanI feel happy :-)12:11
replaceafillmr_german, but check a couple of things so you learn12:11
replaceafillmr_german, 1. Jenny wasn't able to reproduce your issue12:11
replaceafillmr_german, and she asked you a question about it, maybe you should reply even if the PR was already merged12:11
mr_germank12:12
replaceafillmr_german, just give her a step by step to reproduce it12:12
replaceafillmr_german, 2. she had to modify your commit before merging12:12
replaceafillmr_german, you had an unused import12:12
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replaceafillACTION goes to get lunch, bb in ~4015:23
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replaceafillACTION is back16:25
jelknerreplaceafill, can we start a hangout and invite lelkneralfaro and diego in when they arrive?16:57
replaceafilljelkner, just a minute, i'm finishing an email16:57
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replaceafilljelkner, ok done16:59
lelkneralfaroreplaceafill, jelkner im ready16:59
replaceafilljelkner, lelkneralfaro https://hangouts.google.com/call/2sZsyOkrxAP_Hcya0_PqAAEE16:59
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diegoGwhat's our current topic? Sorry I'm late, piano ran later than it usually does17:28
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