IRC log of #novawebdev for Wednesday, 2019-07-24

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zOnny	jelkner: good morning	15:36
zOnny	jelkner: one question	15:37
jelkner	zOnny: shoot	15:37
zOnny	jelkner: should I write back to Susan?	15:37
jelkner	zOnny: is she expecting you to?	15:38
jelkner	i thought you and i agreed this morning that sunday evening / monday is the goal for the "we're ready" email	15:38
zOnny	jelkner: right, however	15:39
jelkner	but you need to decided if she is expecting you sooner then that	15:39
zOnny	jelkner: I see	15:40
zOnny	jelkner: can you paste the Ansible Error?	15:42
zOnny	jelkner: I just want to look at	15:42
jelkner	hold on, zOnny	15:42
jelkner	i'm listening to micky metts in the agaric show and tell	15:42
jelkner	it creates the server	15:44
zOnny	jelkner: ?	15:45
zOnny	jelkner: in your linode account?	15:45
jelkner	then fails on this line: print('There was an error creating the root disk {}').format(e)	15:46
jelkner	yes, zOnny, in my linode account	15:47
zOnny	jelkner: was It after it creates the server?	15:49
zOnny	*was it after creating the server?	15:49
jelkner	look at create.py, zOnny, and you can answer that question for yourself ;-)	15:49
zOnny	jelkner:right	15:49
zOnny	jelkner: it does for me	15:50
zOnny	jelkner: in my personal linode and novawebdev	15:50
jelkner	it does what for you?	15:50
zOnny	jelkner: creates the server and doesn't fail	15:50
jelkner	great	15:50
jelkner	i'm going to show replaceafill here	15:51
jelkner	and see what happened	15:51
zOnny	jelkner: ok	15:51
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jelkner	zOnny, i just talked to GFbot	16:09
zOnny	jelkner: ok	16:09
zOnny	jelkner: any comments	16:09
jelkner	you two need to get as many of replaceafill's tasks done as possible before he comes on saturday	16:09
jelkner	perhaps you can each work on one of them?	16:10
GFbot	1+	16:10
zOnny	jelkner: ok	16:11
zOnny	GFbot: Do you have time to chat	16:12
GFbot	zOnny, tell me	16:12
zOnny	GFbot: Are you planning on covering the "Membership management"	16:14
zOnny	GFbot: According the user stories	16:15
GFbot	zOnny, yes	16:15
GFbot	i already did forums	16:15
GFbot	zOnny, you can focus on helios	16:16
zOnny	GFbot: ok	16:16
GFbot	cool	16:17
zOnny	jelkner: one question	16:41
zOnny	jelkner: Do you know how environment variables work?	16:41
jelkner	zOnny: ask	16:41
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jelkner	zOnny, yes i do	16:42
jelkner	basically, they are names that bash has access to	16:42
jelkner	that's all there is to them	16:42
jelkner	export THE_MAN=zOnny	16:42
jelkner	now	16:42
jelkner	$ echo $THE_MAN	16:43
jelkner	and you will see zOnny	16:43
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zOnny	jelkner: if i do this export ALLOWED_HOSTS=127.0.0.1,localhost	16:43
jelkner	i'm not an expert	16:45
jelkner	you should experiment in the shell to see if it works	16:45
zOnny	jelkner: Helios settings is full of variable environments	16:45
jelkner	the , may cause a problem	16:45
zOnny	jelkner: np	16:45
jelkner	sometimes you need quotes around the values	16:45
jelkner	i would take time to read up on them a bit	16:45
jelkner	like always, the devil is in the details :-(	16:46
jelkner	https://www.networkworld.com/article/3215965/all-you-need-to-know-about-unix-environment-variables.html	16:46
nrcerna	Good Morning everyone	16:46
jelkner	have fun, zOnny	16:46
zOnny	jelkner: thx	16:47
zOnny	jelkner: that's it	16:53
jelkner	zOnny, ping	17:32
zOnny	jelkner: pong	17:32
jelkner	why is our novawebdevelopment.org dns being handled by domaindiscover server?	17:32
jelkner	i wanted to add a new domain	17:33
jelkner	but it doesn't look like we use namecheap's server	17:33
jelkner	do you understand this?	17:33
zOnny	jelkner: ah	17:34
jelkner	ns1.domaindiscover.com and ns2.domaindiscover.com are listed as our nameservers	17:34
jelkner	ah?	17:34
jelkner	zOnny, what do you mean by "ah"?	17:35
jelkner	ouch, zOnny	17:48
jelkner	there is a loooong list of dns entries	17:48
jelkner	are you familiar with them?	17:48
jelkner	it may be better for you to do the move, zOnny	17:48
zOnny	jelkner: If I can see them, yes	17:48
jelkner	hmmm	17:49
jelkner	let me see if i can print the page to pdf	17:49
zOnny	jelkner: screenshoot?	17:49
jelkner	it doesn't fit on the screen, zOnny!	17:49
jelkner	but i can print to pdf	17:49
zOnny	jelkner: there must be mail settings as well	17:51
jelkner	and gitlab pages	17:51
jelkner	a bunch of stuff	17:51
zOnny	jelkner: :O	17:51
jelkner	email sent with attachment, zOnny	17:53
zOnny	jelkner: Ave Maria :O	17:53
jelkner	exactly!	17:53
jelkner	maybe we should wait to talk with replaceafill before making the move?	17:54
jelkner	i don't even understand many of the entries	17:55
zOnny	jelkner: right	17:57
jelkner	two more sent	18:01
jelkner	.com and .net	18:01
jelkner	.net is simple	18:01
jelkner	i'll use that for now	18:01
jelkner	and transfer it to namecheap as soon as possible	18:01
zOnny	jelkner: ok	18:01
zOnny	jelkner: I see	18:03
zOnny	jelkner: thx for checking it	18:03
jelkner	zOnny, ping	18:48
zOnny	jelkner: pong	18:48
jelkner	zOnny, do you know how to setup our tendenci cms "by hand"?	18:48
jelkner	i don't want to use Ansible the 1st time i do it	18:49
zOnny	jelkner: where?	18:49
zOnny	linode server ?	18:49
jelkner	*1	18:49
jelkner	+1	18:49
zOnny	jelkner: local?	18:49
jelkner	local first	18:49
jelkner	then linode server	18:50
jelkner	or maybe just linode first	18:50
zOnny	jelkner: this is within linode server https://tendenci.zonnyzone.com/	18:50
jelkner	did you set it up "by hand"?	18:51
zOnny	jelkner: yes	18:51
zOnny	jelkner: https://www.zonnyzone.com/	18:51
jelkner	ACTION goes to look	18:51
jelkner	where are the instructions?	18:51
zOnny	jelkner: good question	18:52
jelkner	do you have a good answer, zOnny?	18:52
zOnny	jelkner: yes	18:53
jelkner	please, zOnny, share it with me!	18:53
zOnny	jelkner: Did you get access to the snippet files	18:53
zOnny	?	18:53
jelkner	what are snippet files?	18:54
GFbot	zOnny, where they are?	18:54
jelkner	so i guess, no is the answer	18:54
zOnny	GFbot: good question	18:54
GFbot	zOnny, i think we don't doc about that	18:54
jelkner	ACTION picks up the phone to call zOnny	18:55
zOnny	GFbot: https://gitlab.com/novawebdevelopment/nova-base-theme/snippets/1733233	18:55
zOnny	jelkner: no	18:55
zOnny	:)	18:55
jelkner	ACTION hangs up	18:55
jelkner	i get 404	18:55
jelkner	page not found	18:55
zOnny	jelkner: hold on	18:56
GFbot	oh	18:57
GFbot	yeah	18:57
GFbot	but, your instance is running unicorn?	18:58
GFbot	or something?	18:58
zOnny	jelkner: can you see this page?	18:59
zOnny	jelkner: https://gitlab.com/novawebdevelopment/nova-base-theme/issues	18:59
jelkner	yes, zOnny	18:59
zOnny	jelkner: -.-	18:59
jelkner	i'm still "holding on", right zOnny?	19:02
zOnny	jelkner: https://gitlab.com/novawebdevelopment/nova-base-theme/snippets/1733233	19:02
jelkner	ACTION is glad zOnny didn't say "hold your breath", or head be dead by now	19:02
zOnny	can see it now?	19:02
jelkner	nope	19:02
jelkner	404	19:02
zOnny	jelkner: can you ask natalia to click on the link?	19:04
nrcerna	404 too	19:04
nrcerna	I just click on it zOnny	19:05
zOnny	nrcerna: so? 404?	19:05
GFbot	zOnny, weird, i can see it	19:05
nrcerna	yes 404 zOnny	19:06
zOnny	jelkner: try again	19:07
jelkner	404	19:07
zOnny	jelkner: Are u sure?	19:08
jelkner	what kind of question is that, zOnny?	19:09
jelkner	i click the link, i see 404	19:09
zOnny	jelkner: I'm reading https://gitlab.com/gitlab-com/support-forum/issues/2458	19:10
jelkner	zOnny, i feel pretty stupid	19:11
jelkner	i didn't think to login	19:11
GFbot	zOnny, its weird that jelkner can't see	19:11
jelkner	when i login, i can see it	19:11
zOnny	jelkner: -.-	19:11
GFbot	lol	19:12
zOnny	jelkner: I guess is the same with nrcerna :(	19:12
zOnny	jelkner: np it happens	19:12
jelkner	it happens with jelkner more then it should :-(	19:12
jelkner	anyway, let me get to work	19:13
jelkner	now that i have docs	19:13
nrcerna	:( yes zOnny	19:13
GFbot	:D?	19:13
zOnny	GFbot: I didn't understand your question	19:19
GFbot	nvm zOnny	19:20
GFbot	:D	19:20
zOnny	GFbot: git@gitlab.com:novawebdevelopment/tendenci_helios.git	19:21
zOnny	GFbot: doesn't respond with python3	19:21
zOnny	jelkner: I will kill the snippet later	19:27
jelkner	why, zOnny?	19:27
GFbot	zOnny, did you branches	19:27
GFbot	?	19:27
GFbot	there's a branch called python3-helios	19:28
jelkner	it is good documentation	19:28
GFbot	or something like that	19:28
zOnny	GFbot: right	19:28
zOnny	GFbot: I'm using it	19:28
GFbot	it doesnt work?	19:28
jelkner	zOnny, why kill it?	19:28
zOnny	GFbot: no	19:28
GFbot	zOnny, mmmw	19:28
zOnny	GFbot: it will	19:28
zOnny	GFbot: Debugging in it	19:28
zOnny	*I'm	19:28
zOnny	jelkner: I changed it from private to internail	19:29
zOnny	*internal	19:29
zOnny	jelkner: so Gitlab disabled internal this july	19:29
jelkner	you could just make it private again	19:29
zOnny	jelkner: exactly	19:30
jelkner	that doesn't mean kill it	19:30
zOnny	jelkner: once it is disabled I cannot make it happen	19:30
jelkner	ahh	19:30
jelkner	so we lost it?	19:30
zOnny	jelkner: https://docs.gitlab.com/ee/api/project_snippets.html	19:30
jelkner	anyway, zOnny, i need to focus on following these steps	19:31
jelkner	just make sure you have a copy and	19:31
zOnny	jelkner: I guess you cannot edit the snippet as well	19:31
zOnny	jelkner: ok	19:32
jelkner	know where to find it	19:32
jelkner	there is no package libjpeg8	19:32
jelkner	so that failed	19:32
zOnny	jelkner: -.-	19:33
jelkner	i hope it isn't needed	19:33
zOnny	jelkner: It cannot fail -.-	19:34
jelkner	oh, now its libjpeg62-turbo	19:36
zOnny	jelkner: ok	19:36
zOnny	GFbot: one question	19:48
zOnny	GFbot: have you done it before?	19:48
GFbot	zOnny, what?	19:49
zOnny	GFbot: I mean, integrating Helios + tendenci using python3	19:49
nrcerna	jelkner zOnny GFbot see this: https://imgur.com/ug6dN4a	20:08
nrcerna	what do you think?	20:08
jelkner	i love it!°	20:09
GFbot	1+ nrcerna	20:11
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nrcerna		20:11
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nrcerna		20:11
nrcerna		20:11
nrcerna	great!	20:11
nrcerna	great	20:12
GFbot	:D?	20:12
nrcerna	:O great	20:12
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zOnny	nrcerna: +1	20:15
nrcerna	great!	20:15
nrcerna	jelkner Im going to restart my laptop beacause it is to slow :(	20:17
nrcerna	too*	20:17
jelkner	zOnny, ping	20:20
zOnny	jelkner: pong	20:20
jelkner	can i get your help moving boxes on august 8th?	20:20
jelkner	ACTION imagines zOnny having to think about that one...	20:21
jelkner	zOnny, r u here?	20:21
zOnny	jelkner: yes	20:22
jelkner	if i can get the key to my new classroom in the morning, zOnny, i want to move boxes	20:22
zOnny	jelkner: tendenci's boxes? :D	20:22
jelkner	so we can start to setup the NOVA Web Development office	20:22
jelkner	lol	20:22
zOnny	jelkner: I'm in	20:23
jelkner	cool	20:23
jelkner	thnx, zOnny!	20:23
jelkner	and then we can go to the meetup that night	20:23
jelkner	to celebrate	20:23
zOnny	jelkner: Are you plannig on going to FOSSCON?	20:23
zOnny	jelkner: to celebrate?	20:24
jelkner	hold on, zOnny	20:24
jelkner	YES, i forgot	20:26
jelkner	since i thought i would be away	20:26
jelkner	yes, i plan to go	20:26
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jelkner	and i'm going to stay a few days with my brother	20:26
jelkner	since this year i don't have work on monday	20:26
jelkner	cool	20:26
jelkner	zOnny, are you planning to go?	20:26
zOnny	jelkner: no	20:28
jelkner	okie dokie	20:28
jelkner	ubuntourist and i will be there to represent us	20:28
zOnny	jelkner: great	20:28
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zOnny	jelkner: Another RAGU -.-	21:07
jelkner	zOnny??	21:07
zOnny	jelkner: HELIOS == RAGU	21:07
jelkner	LoL	21:07
jelkner	If you mean you need to learn Django, you're right!	21:07
jelkner	That's the plan, zOnny, for you and GFbot to learn Django	21:08
zOnny	jelkner: learn is building your projects from scratch	21:08
zOnny	jelkner: not cleaning up -.-	21:08
jelkner	not at all, zOnny	21:09
jelkner	the most common use case is to be asked to work on a previously existing dung heap that someone else leaves you	21:09
zOnny	jelkner: -.-	21:13
zOnny	GFbot: one question	21:13
zOnny	GFbot: I forgot checkout another branch	21:14
zOnny	GFbot: Im upgrading this repo https://gitlab.com/novawebdevelopment/helios-base-theme	21:14
zOnny	GFbot: should I leave master branch with Django1.8 ?	21:15
GFbot	at the moment, yes.	21:15
zOnny	GFbot: shoot	21:15
GFbot	zOnny, lets have a stable version of that	21:15
zOnny	ACTION is pressing undo -.-	21:16
GFbot	btw, this theme doesnt work anymore on python3	21:16
zOnny	GFbot: It will	21:16
GFbot	yep, use a new branch	21:16
zOnny	GFbot: It needs an upgrade	21:16
GFbot	i know	21:17
GFbot	but, do not change master i think	21:17
GFbot	:D	21:17
zOnny	GFbot: OK	21:17
zOnny	GFbot: another question	21:19
GFbot	yeS?	21:19
zOnny	GFbot: repalceafill upgraded Helios Itself	21:20
GFbot	zOnny, right	21:20
zOnny	GFbot: should I create another branch with the integration ?	21:20
zOnny	zOnny: yes	21:20
zOnny	zOnny: OK	21:21
GFbot	:D?	21:21
GFbot	zOnny, what do you mean	21:21
GFbot	?	21:21
zOnny	GFbot: https://gitlab.com/novawebdevelopment/helios-server/blob/replaceafill/python3/urls.py	21:21
zOnny	GFbot: doesn't include the extra urls from the integration	21:22
GFbot	but, we dont have an integration branch	21:22
GFbot	an old one	21:22
GFbot	right?	21:22
zOnny	GFbot: exactly	21:22
GFbot	well, go ahead	21:26
GFbot	:D	21:26
GFbot	all the steps of the integration are on ansible	21:26
zOnny	GFbot: ?	21:26
GFbot	we don't have a specific branch	21:26
zOnny	GFbot: I'm testing locally first	21:26
zOnny	GFbot: ansible == deployment	21:27
GFbot	got it	21:27
GFbot	go ahead in anycase	21:27
zOnny	tty	21:27
jelkner	zOnny, GFbot, nrcerna, i'm logging off til tomorrow	21:38
jelkner	ACTION logs off for the day	21:38
GFbot	ok	21:38
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