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| jelkner | Good day, kgrieco | 16:09 |
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| jelkner | is today your last day kgrieco and Sambrem? | 16:09 |
| jelkner | or tomorrow? | 16:09 |
| kgrieco | i'm working tomorrow as well jelkner | 16:09 |
| jelkner | has zOnny signed all the paperwork you need signed? | 16:10 |
| Sambrem | I'm working online tomorrow | 16:10 |
| kgrieco | not yet but he will later i think | 16:10 |
| jelkner | make sure you get your time sheets signed today | 16:10 |
| kgrieco | will do | 16:10 |
| Sambrem | Will do, thanks! | 16:10 |
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| jelkner | Good afternoon, zOnny | 16:17 |
| jelkner | let's jump right in to a quick meeting | 16:18 |
| jelkner | btw. zOnny, we are in a sprint | 16:18 |
| zOnny | jelkner: ok | 16:18 |
| jelkner | between now and august 6, we need to make as much progress as possible | 16:18 |
| jelkner | so please coordinate your schedule zOnny with GFbot | 16:18 |
| jelkner | we will have the opportunity to get replaceafill's help for two more weekends | 16:19 |
| jelkner | we won't usually have that opportunity | 16:19 |
| jelkner | each morning let's agree on a time we start together | 16:19 |
| jelkner | and what we want to accomplish during that day of the sprint | 16:19 |
| jelkner | yesterday GFbot got forms working | 16:20 |
| jelkner | today he is going to work on members | 16:20 |
| jelkner | what are you going to work on zOnny? | 16:20 |
| zOnny | jelkner: I'm upgrading helios applications | 16:20 |
| zOnny | jelkner: they don't work with python3 | 16:21 |
| jelkner | great | 16:21 |
| zOnny | jelkner: I'm hoping get it running today | 16:21 |
| jelkner | awesome | 16:21 |
| jelkner | one last thing, GFbot | 16:21 |
| jelkner | what is the list of things we need for a "minimal viable product" for LibreOrganize? | 16:21 |
| nrcerna | Forums, memberships, elections | 16:22 |
| GFbot | jelkner, we need Forums, Events, Voting and memberships | 16:23 |
| GFbot | basic | 16:23 |
| jelkner | perfect | 16:23 |
| jelkner | so let's keep our eyes on the prize | 16:23 |
| jelkner | we want to get all that working before aug. 6 | 16:23 |
| jelkner | zOnny, i setup a server for nrcerna and me to use | 16:23 |
| jelkner | but i'm not sure what to do next | 16:24 |
| jelkner | the script worked | 16:24 |
| jelkner | it installed tendenci | 16:24 |
| jelkner | i made accounts for zOnny and nrcerna on the server | 16:24 |
| zOnny | jelkner: can you point me the IP | 16:24 |
| jelkner | gndva.novawebdevelopment.net | 16:24 |
| zOnny | jelkner: local? | 16:24 |
| jelkner | no | 16:24 |
| jelkner | your user is zonny | 16:24 |
| jelkner | the password is the one we use in the lab at acc for wifi | 16:25 |
| jelkner | login and change it, please | 16:25 |
| jelkner | i'll help nrcerna do the same | 16:25 |
| zOnny | jelkner: what's this? | 16:25 |
| zOnny | jelkner: -.- | 16:25 |
| jelkner | i don't know what you're saying, zOnny | 16:26 |
| zOnny | jelkner: the server is down | 16:26 |
| jelkner | no, zOnny, it isn't down | 16:31 |
| jelkner | it isn't running a web server | 16:31 |
| jelkner | just ssh into it | 16:31 |
| jelkner | and change your password | 16:31 |
| jelkner | let me know when you've done that, zOnny | 16:33 |
| jelkner | you have sudo on that box | 16:33 |
| jelkner | you'll see in my home directory the installation | 16:33 |
| jelkner | if i run: $ venv-gndva/bin/python gndva/manage.py runserver 0:8000 | 16:33 |
| jelkner | tendenci will start | 16:33 |
| jelkner | on port 8000 | 16:33 |
| zOnny | jelkner: permission denied | 16:35 |
| jelkner | ooh, sorry, your user is zonny | 16:35 |
| jelkner | no capital letter | 16:35 |
| jelkner | you have sudo | 16:35 |
| zOnny | jelkner: right | 16:35 |
| jelkner | so you can change that if you want | 16:35 |
| zOnny | jelkner: It didn't work | 16:36 |
| jelkner | let me try | 16:36 |
| zOnny | jelkner: can you paste my publ key | 16:36 |
| jelkner | sure, let's do that | 16:37 |
| jelkner | i've never done it before | 16:37 |
| zOnny | jelkner: just create authorized_keys under .ssh | 16:37 |
| zOnny | jelkner: hold on | 16:37 |
| jelkner | i just became user zonny | 16:38 |
| zOnny | jelkner: -.- | 16:38 |
| jelkner | i typed "$ mkdir .ssh" | 16:38 |
| jelkner | now what? | 16:38 |
| zOnny | ssh-rsa AAAAB3NzaC1yc2EAAAADAQABAAABAQDeDxgARYFGYcGfosdCzeuhQQHDCAjzTAo/jtuXRISuvMH9fb7C+IzVGkMHTBAu1rxvLZBozIjF2Aihr9EjIQ7j85EIWwUc4oiqmO4uIOG0Ti1BIyQYFsmYMhOOmZe82tigTBp8ndPcaZMHmsjbh4aBLJe3gfyfziFgn688DyBySW33/aB8M0zfDDTSFzEnxl/AD8ey0a0Eum8gLt9k8v6g0g2BYpNDifnZR32YWqInMlNgxxpZS2aebGhuOW7YSWJTnGF91JmI1XZWnrZat6YV+wIEF+gu8WbucqJf/Keu4yDEiNypCdBtTrMmJYCSK0Mqc0la+3O/U6artvPewC85 equinteros@gazelle | 16:38 |
| zOnny | jelkner: paste it | 16:38 |
| jelkner | "$ cd .ssh" | 16:39 |
| jelkner | "vi authorized_keys" | 16:39 |
| jelkner | and then i pasted it | 16:39 |
| jelkner | it's there | 16:39 |
| zOnny | jelkner: ok | 16:40 |
| zOnny | jelkner: let me try again | 16:40 |
| zOnny | jelkner: good job | 16:40 |
| jelkner | yes, i can see you're in | 16:40 |
| zOnny | jelkner: I'm in | 16:40 |
| jelkner | ok, change your password | 16:40 |
| zOnny | jelkner: are you spying me? | 16:40 |
| jelkner | yes | 16:40 |
| zOnny | jelkner: -.- | 16:41 |
| jelkner | let me know when you've changed your password | 16:41 |
| jelkner | then let's talk briefly about what nrcerna and i need to do next | 16:41 |
| jelkner | so you can get back to helios | 16:41 |
| jelkner | should i start is running, zOnny? | 16:43 |
| jelkner | ACTION wonders why it is taking zOnny soooo long to just change his password | 16:44 |
| zOnny | jelkner: -.- | 16:46 |
| jelkner | what, zOnny, speak to me! | 16:46 |
| zOnny | jelkner: the password you gave me didn't work | 16:46 |
| jelkner | software. | 16:46 |
| jelkner | do you remember | 16:47 |
| jelkner | it works | 16:47 |
| jelkner | i tried it yesterday and today | 16:47 |
| jelkner | and nrcerna tried it | 16:47 |
| zOnny | jelkner: I rebooted my brain already | 16:47 |
| jelkner | hold on | 16:47 |
| jelkner | i just emailed you | 16:48 |
| zOnny | jelkner: I did | 16:49 |
| zOnny | jelkner: you missed d :( | 16:50 |
| jelkner | hold on, let me try again | 16:50 |
| zOnny | jelkner: I thought it ended with ict! | 16:50 |
| jelkner | try now, zOnny | 16:52 |
| jelkner | did it work, zOnny? | 16:55 |
| jelkner | we are going to break for lunch soon | 16:55 |
| jelkner | and i want to get this finished before we leave | 16:55 |
| zOnny | jelkner: It did | 16:55 |
| jelkner | good, so you changed your password | 16:55 |
| jelkner | and confirmed that you have sudo | 16:55 |
| zOnny | jelkner: yes | 16:55 |
| jelkner | excellent | 16:56 |
| jelkner | so, what is next for nrcerna and me? | 16:56 |
| jelkner | like i said | 16:56 |
| zOnny | jelkner: you were telling redesigning green something | 16:56 |
| jelkner | i can start the server with: $ venv-gndva/bin/python gndva/manage.py runserver 0:8000 | 16:57 |
| jelkner | i just did that, so its running now | 16:57 |
| zOnny | jelkner: where did you place the instance ? | 16:57 |
| zOnny | jelkner: I can't see it | 16:57 |
| jelkner | http://gndva.novawebdevelopment.net:8000/ | 16:58 |
| jelkner | what do you mean, where did i install the software? | 16:58 |
| jelkner | in /home/jelkner | 16:58 |
| zOnny | jelkner: I see | 16:59 |
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| jelkner | good, zOnny, you see | 16:59 |
| jelkner | so what do we do next to begin creating a website? | 17:00 |
| zOnny | jelkner: I see | 17:00 |
| jelkner | zOnny: please answer my question | 17:01 |
| zOnny | jelkner: you need to add apps | 17:01 |
| jelkner | hmmm | 17:01 |
| jelkner | all we want is a cms | 17:01 |
| jelkner | what apps do we need to add? | 17:01 |
| zOnny | jelkner: tendenci_overrides, | 17:01 |
| zOnny | jelkner: for now | 17:02 |
| jelkner | didn't the shell script do that? | 17:02 |
| jelkner | if not, we need a modified version that does | 17:02 |
| jelkner | the idea is to be able to roll out cms websites quickly | 17:02 |
| jelkner | nrcerna and i are going to work on the green new deal virginia coalition website | 17:02 |
| jelkner | which we hope they will use | 17:03 |
| jelkner | she has been working for 2 days on a nice design | 17:03 |
| jelkner | now i need to work with her to deploy it | 17:03 |
| jelkner | so, what do we do? | 17:03 |
| jelkner | we want you to get back to helios, zOnny | 17:03 |
| jelkner | but we need to be able to move forward too | 17:03 |
| jelkner | do you want to tell me after we get back, zOnny? | 17:04 |
| jelkner | we need to go to the grocery store and to lunch | 17:04 |
| zOnny | jelkner: -.- | 17:05 |
| jelkner | we'll be out for 2-3 hours | 17:05 |
| jelkner | so if you want to tell me when we get back, we'll go now | 17:05 |
| zOnny | jelkner: ok | 17:05 |
| jelkner | cool | 17:05 |
| jelkner | i'll talk to you when we get back | 17:05 |
| jelkner | ACTION signs off for lunch and grocery shopping | 17:06 |
| nrcerna | I think I need to set up all the resources you jelkner are going to use to deploy it, because I'm going to leave at 3 pm remember? | 17:06 |
| nrcerna | so I hope lunch is going to be faster | 17:07 |
| zOnny | jelkner: I cannot run your instance | 17:09 |
| zOnny | jelkner: permission denied | 17:11 |
| zOnny | jelkner: not sure about having sudo permissions | 17:12 |
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| zOnny | GFbot: one question | 17:27 |
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| nrcerna | We're here :) | 19:20 |
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| jelkner | zOnny: we're back | 19:25 |
| jelkner | zOnny: r u ready to explain the next steps to nrcerna and jelkner? | 19:26 |
| zOnny | jelkner: did you see the email | 19:29 |
| zOnny | ? | 19:29 |
| jelkner | Yes, zOnny | 19:29 |
| jelkner | I'm working on that. | 19:29 |
| zOnny | jelkner: +1 | 19:29 |
| jelkner | zOnny, can you work with nrcerna on the GND website while I write up the invoice? | 19:34 |
| jelkner | we don't want to block on that site | 19:34 |
| jelkner | our goal is to have something up this weekend | 19:34 |
| jelkner | she has been working on a design for several days | 19:34 |
| jelkner | how can she apply it to create a site? | 19:34 |
| jelkner | zOnny, let me know | 19:35 |
| jelkner | can you do that? | 19:35 |
| jelkner | you need to start teaching her | 19:35 |
| jelkner | don't do it for her | 19:35 |
| jelkner | since she and i want to be able to do this without help from you or GFbot | 19:35 |
| zOnny | jelkner: ? | 19:36 |
| zOnny | ACTION is confused :S | 19:36 |
| nrcerna | zOnny, we need to work on the site | 19:37 |
| nrcerna | did you get that? | 19:37 |
| nrcerna | ACTION trying to reach zOnny on whatsapp | 19:39 |
| zOnny | nrcerna: I see | 19:41 |
| zOnny | nrcerna: have you done the design? | 19:41 |
| zOnny | nrcerna: ? | 19:43 |
| nrcerna | Yes, I m going to upload the resources you need to create it | 19:44 |
| nrcerna | zOnny | 19:44 |
| nrcerna | I mean, pictures, svg elements and icons | 19:44 |
| zOnny | nrcerna: ok | 19:44 |
| zOnny | nrcerna: can I see the layout | 19:45 |
| nrcerna | sure | 19:45 |
| zOnny | nrcerna: are you planing on doing it? | 19:45 |
| nrcerna | let me share that too | 19:45 |
| nrcerna | ah? zOnny, doing it with code? | 19:45 |
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| replaceafill | zOnny, ping | 19:47 |
| zOnny | replaceafill: pong | 19:47 |
| replaceafill | zOnny, can you talk about your helios issue? | 19:47 |
| zOnny | replaceafill: sure | 19:47 |
| replaceafill | zOnny, is this a testing internal VM of yours? | 19:47 |
| zOnny | replaceafill: Helios settings.py doesn't redirect to tendenci's default-fullwith.html | 19:48 |
| zOnny | replaceafill: yes | 19:48 |
| replaceafill | zOnny, are you following any doc to set up the integration? | 19:48 |
| nrcerna | https://i.imgur.com/RLv1sVl.png zOnny | 19:48 |
| zOnny | replaceafill: yes | 19:48 |
| zOnny | replaceafill: https://docs.google.com/document/d/1Nr-Y0OZ0XdrEPMR0GjM6I27lpGZPCHmYuzWjpJIscfQ/edit | 19:49 |
| replaceafill | zOnny, what's your TENDENCI_BASE_TEMPLATE setting in helios? | 19:49 |
| zOnny | replaceafill:TENDENCI_TEMPLATE_BASE = '/srv/LIBREO/libreo/themes/nova/templates/default-fullwidth.html' | 19:50 |
| replaceafill | zOnny, why don't you paste your helios settings? | 19:51 |
| replaceafill | zOnny, if this is an internal vm i assume you don't have any secrets there, right_ | 19:51 |
| replaceafill | zOnny, and it'd be easier to detect problems | 19:51 |
| zOnny | replaceafill: right | 19:51 |
| zOnny | replaceafill: hold on | 19:51 |
| replaceafill | zOnny, did you discuss this with GFbot? | 19:52 |
| replaceafill | zOnny, i remember he worked on the AEA helios upgrade | 19:52 |
| zOnny | replaceafill: seems to be busy | 19:52 |
| replaceafill | zOnny, you mean GFbot is busy? | 19:52 |
| zOnny | replaceafill: https://pastebin.com/7qj8YuZA | 19:53 |
| GFbot | ? | 19:53 |
| zOnny | GFbot: Did you see my email? | 19:56 |
| replaceafill | zOnny, /srv/LIBREO/libreo is your tendenci project? | 19:56 |
| zOnny | replaceafill: right | 19:56 |
| replaceafill | zOnny, oh wait! | 19:56 |
| replaceafill | zOnny, "I'm trying to run the integration(tendenci + helios) using python3." | 19:56 |
| replaceafill | zOnny, is this the python3 branch of helios? | 19:57 |
| zOnny | replaceafill: yes | 19:57 |
| replaceafill | zOnny, you're out of luck my dude | 19:57 |
| zOnny | replaceafill: why? | 19:57 |
| zOnny | replaceafill: It will work | 19:57 |
| replaceafill | zOnny, none of the existing docs/procedures will work | 19:57 |
| replaceafill | zOnny, this is django 1.11, right_ | 19:57 |
| zOnny | replaceafill: right | 19:58 |
| replaceafill | zOnny, so the templating system is newer | 19:58 |
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| replaceafill | zOnny, i don't remember if it still understands the 1.8 settings | 19:58 |
| replaceafill | zOnny, it might with a warning or something | 19:58 |
| zOnny | replaceafill: ? | 19:59 |
| zOnny | replaceafill: what does this variable? | 19:59 |
| replaceafill | zOnny, but the underlying problem is the theme in tendenci | 19:59 |
| replaceafill | zOnny, i don't remember if the 2018 theme changed template structures for 11 | 20:00 |
| zOnny | replaceafill: well, the traceback will thrown me the errors | 20:01 |
| zOnny | replaceafill: what this does | 20:02 |
| zOnny | replaceafill: TENDENCI_TEMPLATE_BASE | 20:02 |
| zOnny | replaceafill: does it redirect ? | 20:02 |
| replaceafill | zOnny, no, it's for using extends | 20:04 |
| replaceafill | zOnny, this would be easier to explain through hangouts | 20:04 |
| zOnny | replaceafill: right | 20:04 |
| replaceafill | zOnny, but the bottom line is, i don't think any of this will ever work | 20:04 |
| zOnny | replaceafill: they will | 20:05 |
| replaceafill | zOnny, cool, good luck then! | 20:05 |
| zOnny | replaceafill: I'm kind comparing HELIOS with RAGU | 20:05 |
| zOnny | *OF | 20:05 |
| zOnny | replaceafill: I will debug it | 20:07 |
| replaceafill | zOnny, kk | 20:07 |
| replaceafill | zOnny, sorry i can't be of any help | 20:07 |
| replaceafill | zOnny, i think you're going the wrong direction | 20:07 |
| replaceafill | zOnny, but it's up to you | 20:07 |
| zOnny | replaceafill: why? | 20:07 |
| replaceafill | zOnny, sigh... | 20:08 |
| replaceafill | zOnny, this mechanism of sharing templates between the two applications is nasty | 20:08 |
| replaceafill | zOnny, and you should set it on fire | 20:08 |
| replaceafill | zOnny, what's the right way to share a theme between two DJANGO PROJECTS? | 20:09 |
| zOnny | replaceafill: -.- | 20:09 |
| replaceafill | zOnny, i'll leave that up to you to decide | 20:09 |
| zOnny | replaceafill: I see your point | 20:10 |
| replaceafill | zOnny, remember all the faking with tendenci_helios and helios_tendenci | 20:10 |
| replaceafill | zOnny, and helios-base-theme and such | 20:10 |
| replaceafill | zOnny, cool, i'll stop talking then :) | 20:10 |
| zOnny | replaceafill: no | 20:12 |
| zOnny | replaceafill: I will look for options | 20:12 |
| replaceafill | zOnny, cool | 20:12 |
| replaceafill | zOnny, i know you can come up with a solution | 20:13 |
| zOnny | replaceafill: -.- | 20:13 |
| zOnny | replaceafill: not sure about that | 20:13 |
| replaceafill | zOnny, any solution would be better than this mess we had for python2.7 | 20:13 |
| replaceafill | zOnny, just consider CAS | 20:13 |
| zOnny | replaceafill: the integrations is sharing themes only, yes? | 20:13 |
| replaceafill | zOnny, nope | 20:13 |
| replaceafill | zOnny, authentication too | 20:14 |
| zOnny | replaceafill: ah | 20:14 |
| zOnny | replaceafill: yes | 20:14 |
| zOnny | and authentication | 20:14 |
| replaceafill | zOnny, yep | 20:14 |
| nrcerna | zOnny you are busy now right? | 20:17 |
| zOnny | nrcerna: not at all | 20:17 |
| zOnny | replaceafill: thx for the helios upgrade | 20:18 |
| replaceafill | zOnny, that's nothing compared to your task ;) | 20:18 |
| nrcerna | Ok zOnny I'm asking because I'm leaving about an hour | 20:19 |
| zOnny | nrcerna: | 20:19 |
| nrcerna | zOnny: ? | 20:20 |
| zOnny | nrcerna: I will do the site if you want me to | 20:20 |
| zOnny | nrcerna: Did you share the layout? | 20:21 |
| nrcerna | It suppose that we have to that together zOnny | 20:21 |
| zOnny | nrcerna: what is the plan? | 20:21 |
| nrcerna | yes zOnny: https://i.imgur.com/RLv1sVl.png | 20:22 |
| nrcerna | also I just shared with you the GDRIVE when I uploaded the files for the website zOnny | 20:23 |
| nrcerna | I was thinking that even If I leave, while I'm at home, we can chat about it, I mean, even If I'm working on other stuff we can work on that if you want zOnny | 20:25 |
| zOnny | nrcerna: thx | 20:25 |
| zOnny | nrcerna: I will be busy today | 20:26 |
| nrcerna | We already did that a few times zOnny | 20:26 |
| nrcerna | ok, so until tomorrow right? zOnny | 20:26 |
| zOnny | nrcerna: I can do the code | 20:26 |
| zOnny | nrcerna: you can do the cms part | 20:26 |
| zOnny | nrcerna: does that works for you? | 20:26 |
| nrcerna | Yes zOnny | 20:28 |
| nrcerna | also zOnny see this, please: | 20:28 |
| nrcerna | https://leesierraclubgreen.wixsite.com/gndvirginiasummit | 20:29 |
| zOnny | nrcerna: nice | 20:29 |
| nrcerna | they have a wix website on summit | 20:29 |
| nrcerna | so I already started redesigning that part | 20:29 |
| zOnny | nrcerna: ok | 20:30 |
| nrcerna | I'm going to share with you what I've done for that too | 20:30 |
| zOnny | nrcerna: ok | 20:32 |
| nrcerna | zOnny: https://i.imgur.com/m5eJxwH.png | 20:35 |
| zOnny | nrcerna: Is this the submit page> | 20:39 |
| zOnny | ? | 20:39 |
| nrcerna | Yes zOnny | 20:40 |
| nrcerna | Oh sorry | 20:40 |
| nrcerna | I guess I didnt save the last one, sorry, forget that link | 20:41 |
| nrcerna | wait a sec | 20:43 |
| nrcerna | I'm going to upload it again. | 20:43 |
| nrcerna | zOnny:https://i.imgur.com/5w4UeyM.png | 20:45 |
| nrcerna | jeklner Eduardo is here | 20:54 |
| nrcerna | he came to pick me up | 20:54 |
| jelkner | okie dokie, zOnny, c u tomorrow at 10 amish your time | 21:05 |
| jelkner | i'm calling it quits for today | 21:05 |
| zOnny | jelkner: It seems that you run the script | 21:05 |
| jelkner | zOnny, what are you talking about? | 21:06 |
| zOnny | jelkner: your instance | 21:06 |
| jelkner | the bash script | 21:06 |
| zOnny | jelkner: yes | 21:06 |
| jelkner | yes, i ran it | 21:06 |
| jelkner | it worked | 21:06 |
| zOnny | jelkner: It did but it included the tendenci's default content | 21:07 |
| zOnny | jelkner: we don't need it anymore | 21:07 |
| jelkner | zOnny, can you think about this and we can talk at 10 am tomorrow | 21:07 |
| zOnny | jelkner: you see mine https://tendenci.zonnyzone.com/ | 21:07 |
| jelkner | yes, i see it | 21:08 |
| zOnny | jelkner: jelkner that should be the end result | 21:08 |
| jelkner | i'm asking for instructions on how to set it up | 21:08 |
| zOnny | jelkner: The script needs and upgrade | 21:08 |
| zOnny | jelkner: I will kill the snippet | 21:08 |
| zOnny | replaceafill: are you around? | 21:08 |
| jelkner | fine | 21:08 |
| zOnny | jelkner: ok | 21:09 |
| replaceafill | zOnny, yes? | 21:09 |
| zOnny | replaceafill: I have gitlab question | 21:10 |
| replaceafill | zOnny, yes? | 21:10 |
| zOnny | replaceafill: Is about the snippets bash scripts | 21:11 |
| zOnny | replaceafill: https://gitlab.com/novawebdevelopment/nova-base-theme/snippets/1733233 | 21:11 |
| zOnny | replaceafill: I changed it to "internal" | 21:12 |
| zOnny | replaceafill: because jeff couldn't see it | 21:12 |
| zOnny | replaceafill: but he wasn't logged in | 21:12 |
| zOnny | replaceafill: but now I cannot edit it | 21:12 |
| zOnny | replaceafill: accoding to gitlab the internal option is disable since july | 21:13 |
| replaceafill | zOnny, ok | 21:14 |
| zOnny | replaceafill: should I remove it and create another one? | 21:14 |
| zOnny | replaceafill: I can't remove it as well | 21:14 |
| zOnny | replaceafill: can you edit it? | 21:15 |
| replaceafill | zOnny, it's because i'm the owner | 21:15 |
| replaceafill | zOnny, see the "Authored" message at the top? | 21:15 |
| zOnny | replaceafill: I see | 21:15 |
| replaceafill | zOnny, you can create your own, right? | 21:16 |
| zOnny | replaceafill: yes | 21:16 |
| replaceafill | zOnny, and refer people to those | 21:16 |
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