IRC log of #novawebdev for Thursday, 2020-06-04

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SITarabuta!remind Jitsi improvements - maybe the downtime was good ;-)04:42
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SITarabuta!remind So my grandpa taught me this...04:42
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inana_16jelkner, gm14:02
inana_16are you on jitsi?14:02
inana_16I'm trying to join planning and hangout but It seems like I'm having troubles14:04
inana_16but I just started another link , no NWD one and it works14:05
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SITarabuta : @ubuntourist : PAldea : abuchholz : inana_16 : +jelkner : wolcen : @msirabella : @ChanServ16:00
This week report (inana_16)16:00
About the two domains on Linode... (SITarabuta)16:00
Jitsi improvements - maybe the downtime was good ;-) (SITarabuta)16:00
So my grandpa taught me this... (SITarabuta)16:00
inana_16Hello everyone!16:00
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inana_16Welcome ;)16:00
inana_16Okay, let's start 16:01
inana_16First item: Filing issues in the right places (SITarabuta)16:01
SITarabutaThis is a quick one: Issues about Business Tracker? Go to
SITarabutaIssues about the Blog? Go to
jelknerwho is the guilty one there, me?16:02
inana_16I think that's me lol16:02
SITarabutaIt's funny how we have a tag for LibreOrganize issues in the LibreOrganize repo. That's not needed ;)  The LibreOrganize repo should only have LibreOrganize issues16:02
inana_16right SITarabuta ?16:02
ubuntouristinana_16, blame jelkner anyway.16:02
SITarabutaI am not going to say who it is ;)16:02
jelknersounds like a good plan, ubuntourist 16:03
jelknersince he would never know ;-)16:03
SITarabutaACTION done16:03
inana_16Ok thanks, SITarabuta 16:03
inana_16About the next item jelkner , not sure if you want to add anything 16:04
inana_16Should our Jitsi server let you know when your login is rejected? (jelkner)16:04
ubuntouristSpeaking of blame, mea culpa...16:04
jelknerSITarabuta says its fixed16:04
inana_16Ok, let's move on16:04
inana_16next item: 16:04
inana_16 Should we proceed with membership in the Tech Worker Cooperative Peer Network ( (jelkner)16:04
jelknerso, this is a vote for the members16:05
jelknerone of whom isn't here16:05
jelknerbut we need three votes to approve16:05
inana_16right jelkner 16:05
jelknerand we have two so far16:05
ubuntouristjelkner, cons? I think we know the pros.16:05
jelknerso zOnny and ubuntourist 16:05
jelkneri can't think of any cons16:05
jelknerit puts us in great company16:05
ubuntouristwell then, +1 16:06
ubuntourist(I guess I thought it was already a given that we were doing that.)16:06
zOnnyThe decision is already made16:06
jelknerubuntourist, don't you think we should vote on things like this?16:06
jelkneraffiliating with another organization, even if it seems like a no brainer16:07
jelkneris a big decision16:07
ubuntouristjelkner, point taken.16:07
jelknerzOnny, yes, we have three votes, but your opinion matters16:07
jelkneryou could perhaps convince us we are making a huge mistake16:07
jelknerwhat do you think, zOnny?16:08
zOnnyyes  u are16:08
jelknerok, can you tell us why? try to convince us16:08
jelknerok, i'll drop it if you want me too, zOnny 16:09
zOnnyI got 40416:09
abuchholzremove the )/16:09
inana_16I think we can talk about this if you want jelkner, zOnny and ubuntourist  ( I mean after the meeting)16:10
zOnnykeep going ....16:10
inana_16so, the next item 16:10
inana_16This week report:16:10
ubuntourist(BTW, being Python based, you can get your punctuation into !remind -- backslash escapes. So,16:11
inana_16s you noticed things are happening! and we are really busy. jelkner and I with the course, filing some issues... zOnny and SITarabuta working on the blogs, GFbot and abuchholz fixing issues16:12
inana_16so I think we are doing a lot of things at the same time, and that's really good16:12
ubuntouristGive it !!remind This week\'s report" to get "This week's report".)16:12
inana_16Sure, thanks ubuntourist 16:13
ubuntouristme breaking shit...16:13
inana_16ACTION done16:13
inana_16next item:  About the two domains on Linode... (SITarabuta)16:13
SITarabutaWe have two domains that are set up on Linode for some reason. and asaadministrators.com16:14
SITarabutaWe should move these to Namecheap so we have everything in one place! Why do we have these here?16:14
zOnnyme -.-16:14
inana_16and GFbot16:14
SITarabutaSo you guys want them there, or should we move them?16:15
zOnnyIt depends16:15
zOnnyLet's move it and get organize with LibreOrganize16:16
SITarabutaSounds good16:17
SITarabutaACTION done16:17
inana_16nex item:16:17
inana_16Jitsi improvements - maybe the downtime was good ;-) (SITarabuta)16:17
SITarabutaI played around with Jitsi - I hope I didn't anger the Jitsi God ;)16:17
ubuntouristSITarabuta, DID YOU DOCUMENT???16:18
SITarabutaIn fact, YES!16:18
SITarabutacomments on everything I changed16:18
ubuntouristSITarabuta, ;-) Most excellent then.16:18
SITarabutaSo: disabled video blurring, turn camera off by default, new super simple home page, disable warnings about insecure names16:18
SITarabutaAnd once again: guests can join in-progress meetings without a password16:18
ubuntouristSITarabuta, Warnings were already hidden. Did you do something else?16:19
SITarabutaHmm, weird16:19
SITarabutaI am also going to set up netdata. It is a super useful tool for server performance that I set up on the mail servers. It will help us know if we really need those 4GB RAM, (because we probably don't). Some are running 6 people meetings with 1GB RAM.16:19
ubuntouristSITarabuta, (I hid them using nwd.css.)16:19
SITarabutaI see16:20
SITarabutaACTION done16:20
inana_16Next item is yours too SITarabuta 16:21
inana_16So my grandpa taught me this... 16:21
SITarabutaYes, and it is catchy16:21
SITarabutaSo. I always keep coming back to this, but I guess every person has their own obsessions.16:21
SITarabutaMy grandpa taught me this *value of money* thingy. It's funny because really I had everything I wanted, but I still turned out to appreciate money.16:22
jelknerAnd what is "money", SITarabuta?16:22
SITarabutaAnyway, WHY are we wasting money on Linodes? I mean we have so many servers that are at 1% CPU usage. We could be saving more than $30/month I am sure.16:22
jelknerinteresting discussion16:22
SITarabuta If we really want to spend it, we better donate it to some charity ;)16:22
jelknerSITarabuta, we agreed to keep trying to clean that up16:23
SITarabutaWell, we set up new servers16:23
jelknerwe could even put more than one partner on the same machine16:23
SITarabutaAnd they are still on separate machines lol16:23
jelknerlet's agree to keep working on that16:23
SITarabutaWe can fit 5 partners on a machine16:23
ubuntouristSITarabuta, On the one hand, I hear what you're saying. On the other hand, this is how my Gallaudet Django system became the beast that it is.16:23
SITarabutaWell, virtual hosts ;)16:24
SITarabutaThey don't know about each other ubuntourist16:24
SITarabutaSeparate database, separate everything16:24
jelknerSITarabuta, this is a very important discussion16:24
jelknerbut it is getting into the weeds16:24
jelknercan we continue after meeting?16:24
SITarabutaACTION done16:25
inana_16Thank you SITarabuta 16:25
inana_16Anyone has anything to add?16:26
inana_16Ok maybe not ;)16:26
inana_16Thanks everyone16:26
jelknerThank you, inana_16!16:26
inana_16ACTION Drops the bag of gravel16:27
SITarabutaPhew, thank goodness! I was so nervous! Before :30!16:27
jelkneri'm on planning16:27
ubuntouristWhile breaking stuff, I think I managed to break my own system's audio.16:27
jelknerits working!16:27
inana_16let's switch ;)16:27
ubuntouristSo, I will *try* to join, but you may need to learn ASL.16:27
inana_16 zOnny 16:29
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jelknerinana_16, i'm listening to the audio lecture for week one19:16
jelkneryou can now get to it in the course19:16
inana_16yeah, I was about to ask you that, we need to do both righ? listen and reading ? jelkner 19:17
jelknerlisten first19:17
jelknerit's easier19:17
jelknerthen read what you can19:17
jelkneryou don't have to get to all of it19:17
inana_16Is not the link to the disussion yet right? I  dont see any zoom link on the calendar yet jelkner 19:18
inana_16ACTION away19:49
jelknerno link to zoom yet20:08
jelknertomorrow morning20:09
inana_16are you there?20:48
jelknerwhat's up?20:49
jelkneri need to concentrate, inana_16 20:49
inana_16I know, sorry20:49
jelknerwhat's up?20:50
inana_16maybe we talk later about it, it's a email that Ingrid sent20:50
inana_16jelkner, we're waiting for you22:00

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