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| jelkner | !remind | 13:25 |
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| jelkner | !remind A few more tweaks to The Blog and a first post. | 13:26 |
| "A few more tweaks to The Blog and a first post." added to message queue | 13:26 | |
| jelkner | !remind Could we get accounts and a private space on the AEA website for the PAC members? | 13:28 |
| "Could we get accounts and a private space on the AEA website for the PAC members?" added to message queue | 13:28 | |
| jelkner | !remind Email from www.blueeeagle.com | 13:32 |
| "Email from www.blueeeagle.com" added to message queue | 13:32 | |
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| jelkner | GM, inana_16 | 13:34 |
| inana_16 | GM jelkner ;) | 13:34 |
| inana_16 | !remind | 13:35 |
| inana_16 | !remind best practices: Backup | 13:36 |
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| jelkner | !remind | 13:42 |
| jelkner | https://www.usworker.coop/join/ | 13:56 |
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| jelkner | zOnny, can you please meet inana_16 and me on hangout? | 14:25 |
| jelkner | zOnny, we need to discuss the meeting today with Rick | 14:28 |
| jelkner | can you meet us on hangout? | 14:28 |
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| inana_16 | https://xvelopers.com/html/clinix/?storefront=envato-elements jelkner here's an example for Rick | 15:25 |
| jelkner | Good morning, amina! | 15:25 |
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| amina | Good morning! | 15:25 |
| inana_16 | GM amina, how are you? :) | 15:26 |
| amina | I am doing well! How are you doing? | 15:26 |
| inana_16 | Fine! I just wanted to check if you received the email I sent about our meeting this Sunday | 15:28 |
| inana_16 | amina | 15:29 |
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| amina | Yes I have | 15:30 |
| inana_16 | Great ;) | 15:30 |
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| inana_16 | another example for Rick jelkner: http://max-themes.net/demos/mediz/hospital/index.html | 15:38 |
| zOnny | !do not remind | 15:42 |
| jelkner | !help | 15:50 |
| LittleBrother | Available commands: !event, !help, !ping, !remind, !remove, !time | 15:50 |
| inana_16 | !remind | 15:51 |
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| GFbot | !ping jelkner | 15:59 |
| jelkner | GFbot, | 15:59 |
| PAldea : cmoran : SLewis : bcassatt : GFbot : amina : zOnny : inana_16 : +jelkner : wolcen : @msirabella : @ChanServ | 16:00 | |
| A few more tweaks to The Blog and a first post. (jelkner) | 16:00 | |
| Could we get accounts and a private space on the AEA website for the PAC members? (jelkner) | 16:00 | |
| Email from www.blueeeagle.com (jelkner) | 16:00 | |
| best practices: Backup (inana_16) | 16:00 | |
| Negotiate with Gallaudet about "Sound Advice" work (ubuntourist) | 16:00 | |
| inana_16 | Hello Everyone!:) | 16:00 |
| GFbot | Hi | 16:00 |
| jelkner | Good morning! | 16:00 |
| jelkner | Don't forget to sign in, folks | 16:00 |
| inana_16 | +1 | 16:00 |
| inana_16 | So let's start! we have a long agenda today | 16:01 |
| inana_16 | first item: Should we create a wiki page for care and feeding of our Jitsi server? (jelkner) | 16:01 |
| jelkner | since stefan, adrian, and kevin aren't here, let's punt this to another meeting | 16:01 |
| jelkner | ACTION done | 16:01 |
| inana_16 | Ok great | 16:02 |
| inana_16 | next item:Possible LibreOrganize partner (jelkner) | 16:02 |
| jelkner | OK, this is an FYI, but it's really exciting | 16:03 |
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| jelkner | We have a meeting today at 3 pm with a possible LibreOrganize user | 16:03 |
| jelkner | i'll let everyone know how it went on Sunday | 16:03 |
| jelkner | wish us good fortune! | 16:03 |
| jelkner | ACTION done | 16:03 |
| inana_16 | This is really exciting ;) | 16:03 |
| inana_16 | busy days are coming :) | 16:04 |
| inana_16 | so next item: A brief discussion of what the GPLv3 means for our interns (jelkner) | 16:04 |
| jelkner | this came up in conversation with adrian yesterday | 16:04 |
| jelkner | he isn't here, but he can read the logs | 16:04 |
| jelkner | so i'll address it briefly | 16:05 |
| jelkner | He was interested in setting up a server to offer Business Tracker to paying customers for a monthly fee | 16:05 |
| inana_16 | +1 | 16:05 |
| jelkner | he did not realize that he can do that | 16:05 |
| inana_16 | I agree on that with him, as a side project | 16:06 |
| jelkner | free software gives him the freedom to do that | 16:06 |
| jelkner | while he could certainly talk to the rest of us about it | 16:06 |
| jelkner | he could do it on his own, or with another group of friends, or with whomever he wants | 16:06 |
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| jelkner | you all have that same freedom | 16:06 |
| jelkner | i encourage you to look into it further | 16:07 |
| inana_16 | +1 | 16:07 |
| ubuntourist | IRC troubles (actually lots of computer troubles). | 16:07 |
| jelkner | since GPLv3 is what is known as "copyleft" | 16:07 |
| jelkner | also called a "viral license" | 16:07 |
| jelkner | what you *are* obligated to do is give the same freedoms to others for any changes you want to make to the source | 16:08 |
| jelkner | that's all for now | 16:08 |
| jelkner | ACTION done | 16:08 |
| jelkner | GM, ubuntourist | 16:08 |
| inana_16 | thanks jelkner | 16:08 |
| inana_16 | alright | 16:09 |
| inana_16 | next item: A few more tweaks to The Blog and a first post. (jelkner) | 16:09 |
| jelkner | SITarabuta, can you work with zOnny to get his fixes into my blog? | 16:09 |
| jelkner | he doesn't know how to reset the published flag in the database after merging the changes | 16:09 |
| SITarabuta | jelkner, okay | 16:09 |
| jelkner | for everyone else, we have a wonderful blog app we are calling "The Blog" | 16:10 |
| jelkner | that inana_16 and i will be using to communicate with the outside world about our activity | 16:10 |
| jelkner | i published a post this morning i would encourage you all to read | 16:11 |
| jelkner | https://weblog.elkner.net/blog/28/ | 16:11 |
| jelkner | It was written with two goals in mind: | 16:11 |
| jelkner | 1. set the stage for our Summer activity | 16:11 |
| jelkner | 2. reach out to folks we want to communicate with | 16:12 |
| jelkner | i'd like to hear any questions / feedback on Sunday | 16:12 |
| jelkner | ACTION done | 16:12 |
| inana_16 | thank you jelkner | 16:12 |
| inana_16 | next item: Could we get accounts and a private space on the AEA website for the PAC members? (jelkner) | 16:12 |
| jelkner | this is best done as a conversation on hangout after | 16:13 |
| jelkner | or perhaps we should wait until after our 3 pm meeting today | 16:13 |
| jelkner | the meeting at 3 pm will be about a union in Colorado called the Colorado Independent Drivers Union | 16:14 |
| jelkner | one of the things they want is a private space for their members to communicate | 16:14 |
| jelkner | that is *exactly* the kind of thing we wanted to build LibreOrganize to do | 16:14 |
| jelkner | and what's more, they seem to have a non-trival budget to work with | 16:15 |
| jelkner | anyway, if we move ahead with that, it would be a good time to port some of that functionality to AEA as well | 16:15 |
| jelkner | the PAC has only 18 members | 16:15 |
| jelkner | so i thought it a good size (small) group, to test with | 16:15 |
| jelkner | ACTION done | 16:15 |
| inana_16 | Thank you for the context and let us know jelkner | 16:16 |
| inana_16 | next item | 16:16 |
| inana_16 | Email from www.blueeeagle.com (jelkner) | 16:16 |
| jelkner | a real quick FYI | 16:17 |
| jelkner | I got an email from someone at this business asking if we needed any mobile or web development help | 16:17 |
| jelkner | it was what they call a "cold call" or "cold email" in this case | 16:17 |
| jelkner | i'm sure they sent it to thousands a people | 16:18 |
| jelkner | but since they are a business similar to ours | 16:18 |
| jelkner | i thought sharing the website would be useful | 16:18 |
| jelkner | ACTION done | 16:18 |
| inana_16 | +1 | 16:18 |
| inana_16 | Ok next one: best practices: Backup | 16:18 |
| inana_16 | this is something important as we mentioned jelkner | 16:19 |
| jelkner | zOnny, GFbot can we meet about this after? | 16:19 |
| inana_16 | and you mentioned that could be a talk for after | 16:19 |
| GFbot | sure jelkner | 16:19 |
| jelkner | this came up because inana_16 and i are starting to think about how to negotiate pricing | 16:19 |
| jelkner | we wanted to refer back to the prices we used to have on our old website | 16:20 |
| jelkner | and my understanding is that we don't have a backup?! | 16:20 |
| inana_16 | and we really need to have quick access to the whole pricing and services information | 16:20 |
| jelkner | that is really bad if true | 16:20 |
| jelkner | and we need to talk about it now before we get in deep trouble with a paying partner | 16:20 |
| jelkner | ubuntourist and i have a crazy friend in vermont who has a saying that is not crazy at all | 16:21 |
| jelkner | The 5 *most* important words in the technology industry are... | 16:21 |
| SITarabuta | DID YOU BACK IT UP | 16:21 |
| inana_16 | So I mentioned that now that I'm part of the workflow I can take care of copy and paste the content but jelkner mentioned that is something that it relies on the developers | 16:21 |
| jelkner | +1 | 16:21 |
| jelkner | ACTION done | 16:21 |
| SITarabuta | I was thinking about the backup yesterday | 16:21 |
| SITarabuta | IMO, we should enable backups for every server that is using the "setup" | 16:22 |
| SITarabuta | especially because of all the savings | 16:22 |
| SITarabuta | from destroying redundant servers | 16:22 |
| SITarabuta | ACTION done | 16:22 |
| ubuntourist | ACTION raises hand | 16:22 |
| inana_16 | shoot ubuntourist | 16:22 |
| SITarabuta | ACTION yes, the guy over there. what;s the guestion? | 16:22 |
| ubuntourist | jelkner, is the backup you're looking for overwritten by a complete redesign of stuff? If so, something more "git-like" that has a revision history may be necessary | 16:24 |
| jelkner | ubuntourist, we are even on a different platform | 16:24 |
| jelkner | is was Tendenci | 16:24 |
| jelkner | what we probably need is some of that ultra low cost online storage | 16:25 |
| ubuntourist | jelkner, that's kind of what I thought, but I wanted to verify. | 16:25 |
| SITarabuta | Linode has built-in backup. We can just restore an entire server using that until we get some manual storage thing | 16:25 |
| jelkner | where we store old images just in case | 16:25 |
| ubuntourist | jelkner, and some decision as to what gets backed up where and when. | 16:25 |
| SITarabuta | 2.5 dollars to backup a server with 4 clients | 16:25 |
| jelkner | SITarabuta, when we delete a server | 16:25 |
| SITarabuta | ohhhhhh | 16:25 |
| jelkner | don't we lose it's backups? | 16:25 |
| jelkner | so we need to thing that through | 16:25 |
| SITarabuta | Well... I am storing the backups | 16:25 |
| SITarabuta | on my computer | 16:25 |
| jelkner | an archive workflow | 16:25 |
| SITarabuta | they currently using 250GB | 16:26 |
| SITarabuta | and I hate it | 16:26 |
| SITarabuta | and I wan't to get rid of them | 16:26 |
| SITarabuta | awnt* | 16:26 |
| SITarabuta | ARGGHHH want* | 16:26 |
| ubuntourist | the straight automated backup is all well and good, and necessary. But if stuff gets overwritten, the new backup will be missing the old info. | 16:26 |
| jelkner | +1 | 16:26 |
| ubuntourist | ACTION is done | 16:26 |
| jelkner | to be continued. | 16:27 |
| jelkner | ACTION done | 16:27 |
| inana_16 | Thanks | 16:27 |
| inana_16 | so, anything else to share, add or discuss? | 16:27 |
| SITarabuta | It is very close to :30, but: | 16:27 |
| inana_16 | anyone? | 16:27 |
| SITarabuta | I have something to add: As you may know, we also have a *GitHub* account / group. It is not used as we have moved to *GitLab*. We should delete that so people won't think that is our git repo because it is pretty out of date. | 16:27 |
| jelkner | +1 | 16:28 |
| inana_16 | Thanks for being on top of it SITarabuta | 16:28 |
| SITarabuta | Especially since most people know of GitHub | 16:28 |
| SITarabuta | rather than GitLAB | 16:28 |
| SITarabuta | ACTION done | 16:28 |
| inana_16 | Thanks | 16:28 |
| inana_16 | Great, so I think we're done | 16:28 |
| inana_16 | ACTION Drops the bag of gravel | 16:28 |
| SITarabuta | Drop it. Quick. Please. I am sweating | 16:28 |
| SITarabuta | Thanks | 16:28 |
| inana_16 | ;) | 16:29 |
| jelkner | Nice work, inana_16! | 16:29 |
| inana_16 | :D | 16:29 |
| jelkner | LoL | 16:29 |
| inana_16 | lol | 16:29 |
| ubuntourist | Gallaudet's looking for "Sound Advice" conversations again. | 16:29 |
| jelkner | let's chat on hangout | 16:29 |
| ubuntourist | Also, any thoughts on yesterday's Show & Tell? | 16:29 |
| inana_16 | Side conversation at https://meet.novawebdevelopment.org/hangout | 16:29 |
| ubuntourist | Switching to hangout, but due to tech troubles, it may be a bit of time. | 16:29 |
| inana_16 | what about Alan's meeting? jelkner | 17:34 |
| inana_16 | I know that you're really busy | 17:35 |
| jelkner | inana_16, i'm on MeetWithClayton | 17:55 |
| jelkner | ping inana_16 | 17:56 |
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| nrcer__ | jelkner, Ana Marina is related to the two of them right? | 18:39 |
| nrcer__ | https://imgur.com/C3CNbLc | 18:39 |
| nrcer__ | https://imgur.com/C3CNbLc | 18:39 |
| nrcer__ | jelkner | 18:39 |
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| inana_16 | jelkner, we realized with German that we set up the meeting with the study group at 3pm here, meaning 5 EST | 18:50 |
| inana_16 | lol | 18:50 |
| inana_16 | !ping jelkner | 18:51 |
| inana_16 | can you please ask Clayton for the examples that he mentioned jelkner | 19:07 |
| inana_16 | colors, logo, pictures (resources) can you ask for that ubuntourist ? | 19:16 |
| inana_16 | please | 19:16 |
| ubuntourist | inana_16, did that cover it for you? | 19:29 |
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| inana_16 | ACTION Away | 19:45 |
| ubuntourist | Sites mentioned: | 19:48 |
| ubuntourist | https://www.ucwcolorado.org/ | 19:48 |
| ubuntourist | https://iww.org/ | 19:48 |
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| inana_16 | ACTION back | 19:59 |
| jelkner | inana_16, are you available to talk? | 20:03 |
| inana_16 | yes jelkner | 20:03 |
| inana_16 | where? | 20:03 |
| jelkner | planning? | 20:04 |
| inana_16 | sure | 20:04 |
| inana_16 | Im already there | 20:04 |
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| inana_16 | calling jelkner | 21:38 |
| inana_16 | want to show you something | 21:38 |
| inana_16 | real quick | 21:38 |
| jelkner | ACTION signs off til tomorrow | 23:05 |
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