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| SITarabuta | !remind How did the Sound Advice meeting go? | 01:07 |
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| SITarabuta | !remove How did the Sound Advice meeting go? | 01:09 |
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| SITarabuta | !remind Taxes? | 01:10 |
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| jelkner | Good morning, ubuntourist | 07:38 |
| ubuntourist | ACTION yawns, blinks | 08:08 |
| ubuntourist | jelkner, Hail. | 08:08 |
| ubuntourist | jelkner, I'm finally cleaning out my dc.loco inbox, where I'm way over-subscribed. | 08:09 |
| ubuntourist | jelkner, In so doing, I'm finding ignored messages re: Loomio, The Open Co-Op, etc, and trying to cherry-pick information to share with NWD. | 08:10 |
| ubuntourist | (BRB) | 08:10 |
| jelkner | cool | 08:11 |
| jelkner | ubuntourist, if you have a minute, i'd like to ask you for some sound advice ;-) | 08:12 |
| jelkner | btw, i'm scheduled to call tom hoffman at 9 | 08:12 |
| jelkner | it will be great to catch up with him | 08:12 |
| ubuntourist | ACTION is back | 08:19 |
| jelkner | ubuntourist, can you join me on hangout? | 08:19 |
| ubuntourist | !remind Worst practices: \"fragile\" development and \"Unsound Advice\" 😉 | 08:20 |
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| ubuntourist | !remind Am I a twit, twitter, the twittest? Socially networking. | 09:51 |
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| ubuntourist | !remind | 09:54 |
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| inana_16 | !remind | 10:49 |
| inana_16 | I Like Flint sense of humor jelkner | 11:13 |
| inana_16 | !remind Plans for this week (Really Brief) | 11:22 |
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| jelkner | Good morning abuchholz | 11:46 |
| abuchholz | hey | 11:46 |
| jelkner | we are on hangout | 11:46 |
| jelkner | SLewis, you too | 11:46 |
| abuchholz | yep. have been in there for the last 15 minutes | 11:46 |
| jelkner | oh, ok | 11:46 |
| jelkner | lots of us today | 11:46 |
| jelkner | i didn't see you ;-) | 11:46 |
| jelkner | !remind | 11:47 |
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| inana_16 | Hello Everyone! | 12:00 |
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| ubuntourist | !remind | 12:01 |
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| SITarabuta | !cronforce | 12:02 |
| GFbot : PAldea : zOnny : SITarabuta : abuchholz : SLewis : inana_16 : +jelkner : @ubuntourist : @mjsir911 : @ChanServ : wolcen | 12:02 | |
| Talk about how the forums app will work (abuchholz) | 12:02 | |
| Taxes? (SITarabuta) | 12:02 | |
| Worst practices: "fragile" development and "Unsound Advice" 😉 (ubuntourist) | 12:02 | |
| Am I a twit, twitter, or the twittest? 😉 Socially (socialist?) networking. (ubuntourist) | 12:02 | |
| Plans for this week (Really Brief) (inana_16) | 12:02 | |
| inana_16 | Ok lets start! | 12:02 |
| inana_16 | first item: PDF print from NOVALACIRO wiki still not working (jelkner) | 12:02 |
| jelkner | Yup, news on that? | 12:02 |
| abuchholz | It has been pushed to master | 12:02 |
| SITarabuta | BUT | 12:02 |
| SITarabuta | : | 12:02 |
| abuchholz | however... someone deleted .git on Novalaciro | 12:02 |
| abuchholz | so | 12:03 |
| inana_16 | ? | 12:03 |
| abuchholz | we cant pull or do anything | 12:03 |
| SITarabuta | good lucking pulling | 12:03 |
| jelkner | ouch | 12:03 |
| abuchholz | someone deleted it | 12:03 |
| jelkner | ok, zOnny and GFbot need to fix that | 12:03 |
| jelkner | one other quesiton | 12:03 |
| abuchholz | You probably need to reclone the repo and copy things over and make sure things are in sync | 12:03 |
| jelkner | now that we have this PDF working, would it be easy to port to The Blog? | 12:03 |
| abuchholz | for the most part | 12:04 |
| SITarabuta | lol | 12:04 |
| abuchholz | I can look into it | 12:04 |
| jelkner | cool | 12:04 |
| jelkner | ACTION done | 12:04 |
| inana_16 | thanks abuchholz,SITarabuta | 12:04 |
| inana_16 | Ok, next item: | 12:04 |
| SITarabuta | abuchholz you love making things seem easier than they are don't ya | 12:04 |
| inana_16 | Ask ubuntourist about electronic payments (jelkner) | 12:04 |
| ubuntourist | It was a question: Do we have a means of accepting electronic payments? I didn't see a need for an agenda item... | 12:04 |
| jelkner | this was a reminder of something you brought up, ubuntourist | 12:05 |
| jelkner | ok | 12:05 |
| jelkner | ACTION never mind | 12:05 |
| ubuntourist | I know it's come up before, I just wanted to know if it had been resolved? | 12:05 |
| jelkner | no | 12:05 |
| ubuntourist | ACTION is done | 12:05 |
| inana_16 | Alright | 12:05 |
| inana_16 | next one: Talk about distribution of patronage and Business Tracker (jelkner) | 12:05 |
| jelkner | ok, i've already talked with most of you about this | 12:06 |
| jelkner | but just for the record | 12:06 |
| jelkner | we are fast approaching the point where we will need to have heart to heart discussions and add to our operating agreement | 12:06 |
| jelkner | rules on "distribution of patronage" | 12:07 |
| jelkner | the USFWC is insisting on it | 12:07 |
| jelkner | we are still flying by the seat of our pants | 12:07 |
| jelkner | so we have a new gig working to get Business Tracker to do what our friends at Agaric need it to do | 12:07 |
| jelkner | SITarabuta is working on that | 12:08 |
| jelkner | i am proposing that instead of the normal 50/50 split we have informally agreed to | 12:08 |
| jelkner | for this one time, SITarabuta should get all the renumeration for this | 12:08 |
| jelkner | my reasoning is thus | 12:09 |
| jelkner | he will be spending more time than we could ever charge for the work | 12:09 |
| jelkner | but it will help us in *very* important ways | 12:09 |
| jelkner | we will get to work closely with Agaric | 12:09 |
| jelkner | and learn from them how they manage these things | 12:10 |
| jelkner | we need that mentorship | 12:10 |
| jelkner | and we will have a tool as a result to help us manage our data | 12:10 |
| jelkner | that's all i've got | 12:10 |
| ubuntourist | Don't patronize me? Patronize me? 😉 I find it all so patronizing. 😉 (meaning #2: to adopt an air of condescension toward : treat haughtily or coolly) | 12:10 |
| jelkner | ACTION done | 12:10 |
| inana_16 | Great | 12:11 |
| inana_16 | so... | 12:11 |
| inana_16 | next item: Talk about how the forums app will work (abuchholz) | 12:11 |
| SITarabuta | so me and abuchholz had a very different view of the forums app | 12:12 |
| SITarabuta | and we couldn't come to an agreement | 12:12 |
| abuchholz | more of an after the meeting question. but I want to talk about how we do forums. I had a very different vision than Stefan and before changing it we wanted to talk to others | 12:12 |
| abuchholz | ACTION is done. | 12:12 |
| SITarabuta | so we thought that we should talk to others | 12:12 |
| abuchholz | +1 | 12:12 |
| SITarabuta | ACTION done | 12:12 |
| inana_16 | Sure | 12:12 |
| jelkner | let's have our after meeting discussion on hangout | 12:13 |
| jelkner | since we're all there already | 12:13 |
| inana_16 | +1 | 12:13 |
| inana_16 | next item: Taxes? (SITarabuta) | 12:13 |
| jelkner | sadly, SITarabuta my eldest son was in no position to discuss this yesterday | 12:13 |
| SITarabuta | so jelkner should talk more about this than me, but what is going on? | 12:13 |
| SITarabuta | okay jelkner | 12:14 |
| jelkner | but i will put this on my todo list for this week | 12:14 |
| SITarabuta | but i put it here because this is not only for me, i know abuchholz needed some help as well | 12:14 |
| jelkner | and deliver a reasoned reply to you on thrusday | 12:14 |
| abuchholz | yep | 12:14 |
| jelkner | is that ok? | 12:14 |
| SITarabuta | sure | 12:14 |
| abuchholz | just need to forms | 12:14 |
| SITarabuta | ACTION done | 12:14 |
| inana_16 | next item: Worst practices: "fragile" development and "Unsound Advice" 😉 (ubuntourist) | 12:14 |
| ubuntourist | So: Sound Advice, to the best of my knowledge is still running reasonably well on the Mac OS X system at Gallaudet. | 12:15 |
| ubuntourist | However. | 12:15 |
| SITarabuta | Also known as macOS now ;-) | 12:15 |
| ubuntourist | My own hardware and OS have gone through changes, and I'm finding that resurrecting the code is a bit problematic. | 12:16 |
| ubuntourist | Any Docker experts? It looks like I need to go that direction. | 12:16 |
| SITarabuta | *silence* | 12:16 |
| jelkner | i'm proposing abuchholz and zOnny be tasked with this one | 12:16 |
| abuchholz | I know some docker | 12:16 |
| abuchholz | I messed around with it while working on LibreOrganize | 12:17 |
| jelkner | it is our biggest contract | 12:17 |
| jelkner | and it requires onsite visits to Gallaudet | 12:17 |
| abuchholz | I could try I just need to see the source code and be given time | 12:17 |
| ubuntourist | The Mac was fussy when it came to trying to get Python3 and Qt5 working right. So, I was stuck with Python 2 and Qt4. Now I'm having trouble moving back to that on Ubuntu 20.04.) | 12:17 |
| jelkner | so they are the logical ones to be in charge | 12:17 |
| jelkner | asking for help where they need it | 12:17 |
| jelkner | we know a docker expert in mattva01 | 12:17 |
| jelkner | we can get help with that | 12:18 |
| ubuntourist | Anyway, probably moving back to an earlier Ubuntu and a container. that's it for that topic. | 12:18 |
| ubuntourist | ACTION is done | 12:18 |
| inana_16 | next item: Am I a twit, twitter, or the twittest? 😉 Socially (socialist?) networking. (ubuntourist) | 12:18 |
| inana_16 | :D | 12:19 |
| SITarabuta | that profile picture on twitter is killing me ;) | 12:19 |
| SITarabuta | NEVERMIND, it was cached | 12:19 |
| ubuntourist | Briefly: I've been abusing our Twitter account and trying to make connections to co-ops, and posting a fair amount recently. | 12:19 |
| ubuntourist | Don't know if it will get us anywhere. "It's a dirty job but someone's got to do it" ♫ | 12:20 |
| ubuntourist | ACTION is done with that... | 12:20 |
| inana_16 | That's really great | 12:21 |
| inana_16 | thanks ubuntourist | 12:21 |
| inana_16 | So the last item: Plans for this week (Really Brief) | 12:21 |
| inana_16 | who wants to start? | 12:21 |
| jelkner | we can all type at once | 12:21 |
| jelkner | so they come flying in | 12:22 |
| jelkner | then discuss briefly | 12:22 |
| inana_16 | that's the idea | 12:22 |
| jelkner | i'll be working on 1. Taxes 2. NEA4OR 3. PRIMEs training | 12:22 |
| inana_16 | I'll be working on the website design, with Heylin on NOVALACIRO, and some marketing meetings | 12:23 |
| SITarabuta | I will be continuing work on Business Tracker, and helping people with tests; not actual code, more like giving clues ;) | 12:23 |
| inana_16 | websites designs* | 12:23 |
| ubuntourist | ACTION will be tweeting, twitting, t'whit, and continuing to resurrect Sound Advice on Linux, (and looking a LITTLE at a very cool Javascript alternative to the Python code for Sound Advice). | 12:24 |
| abuchholz | Functional tests for LibreOrganize | Help Edzon with Unit Tests and Func tests on Business Tracker | Finish the Forums app | Investigating Sound Advice source code | 12:24 |
| zOnny | I would like to poke with sound advice and get it working in my local machine in order to get familiar with it | 12:24 |
| ubuntourist | zOnny, good luck. 😉 | 12:25 |
| inana_16 | So I gues GFbot is going to work on some front end issues I found , and continue with the Spanish study group | 12:25 |
| inana_16 | guess* | 12:25 |
| jelkner | cool | 12:25 |
| jelkner | inana_16, you and i have to check-in regularly on sound advice | 12:25 |
| inana_16 | Sure | 12:26 |
| jelkner | since we have to help manage the workflow | 12:26 |
| jelkner | ACTION done | 12:26 |
| inana_16 | right | 12:26 |
| inana_16 | anything to add? | 12:26 |
| ubuntourist | I'll expound on hangout. | 12:26 |
| inana_16 | ok | 12:26 |
| inana_16 | ACTION Drops the bag of gravel | 12:26 |
| jelkner | Thanks, inana_16! | 12:26 |
| jelkner | you rock | 12:26 |
| inana_16 | thank you everyone! | 12:27 |
| inana_16 | ;) jelkner | 12:27 |
| SITarabuta | I will also talk about BT later ;) | 12:27 |
| inana_16 | https://novawebdevelopment.org/events/25/ DONT FORGET THIS, PLEASE | 12:27 |
| inana_16 | also side conversation: https://meet.novawebdevelopment.org/hangout | 12:27 |
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| SITarabuta | https://gitlab.com/libreorganize/libreorganize-threaded-post | 12:33 |
| inana_16 | jelkner, I'm filing some genera issues, later I'm going to focus on design | 12:53 |
| inana_16 | general* | 12:53 |
| jelkner | inana_16, can you meet me on planning? | 12:54 |
| inana_16 | sure | 12:54 |
| inana_16 | https://www.artefactual.com/ | 13:12 |
| inana_16 | https://www.linkedin.com/company/artefactual-systems/?originalSubdomain=ca | 13:12 |
| inana_16 | Accessibility feature on website: https://iww.org/ | 13:21 |
| jelkner | Cool! Douglas's company looks like a wonderful place to work | 13:21 |
| inana_16 | https://userway.org/ | 13:22 |
| inana_16 | https://userway.org/pricing/widget | 13:23 |
| inana_16 | jelkner | 13:23 |
| inana_16 | Doing some research about accessibility , I found this: https://github.com/IBMa/equal-access | 13:30 |
| inana_16 | jelkner | 13:31 |
| inana_16 | https://www.digitala11y.com/open-source-accessibility-tools/ | 13:35 |
| inana_16 | jelkner | 13:35 |
| jelkner | ubuntourist, you all still in the middle of working? | 14:35 |
| jelkner | i'm participating in a "stress test" for BBB that micky just texted me about | 14:35 |
| jelkner | just an FYI | 14:35 |
| jelkner | talk later if you're busy | 14:36 |
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| jelkner | ACTION signs off for the day | 16:05 |
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