IRC log of #novawebdev for Thursday, 2020-07-23

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jelknergm inana_16 12:44
jelkneryou're up early12:44
inana_16Yeah, I need to continue the CJ website,12:45
jelknercool12:45
inana_16I woke up at 5 am ;)12:45
jelknerthe early bird catches the worm ;-)12:46
inana_16Yes Indeed12:46
jelknerwe meet with Camba at 11, yes?12:46
jelknerin 2 hours and 15 minutes12:46
jelkneroh, sorry to interrupt you, inana_16 12:48
jelknerbut did you get to the USFCW meeting?12:48
inana_16Yeah I got the first part, they did break out rooms, the second part I got lost when switching12:49
inana_16they mentioned that it was going to last 2 hours the whole meeting12:49
inana_16: meet.novawebdevelopment.org/ReunionConCamba12:50
inana_16this is the link12:50
inana_16I'll jump there at 10:40 to talk you before ;) jelkner 12:51
jelkneri'll add it to the calendar12:52
jelknerit isn't there, inana_16 12:52
inana_16My bad12:52
inana_16I forgot to add it there12:52
jelknerinana_16, it's there now12:57
inana_16thanks12:57
jelknersure, what are cooperators for? ;-)12:58
inana_16;-)13:01
inana_16PING jelkner 14:13
inana_16can we briefly meet on planning?14:13
inana_16need an advice14:13
jelknerwhy, i'm on the channel where we meet at 1114:13
jelknerlet's meet there14:13
inana_16Ok14:13
jelknerinana_16, when do you plan to get on the channel?14:46
inana_162 mins14:46
inana_16in 2 mins14:46
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SITarabuta!remove abbyscleaning.us doesn't work15:47
LittleBrotherInvalid arguments: No closing quotation.15:47
SITarabuta!remove abbyscleaning.us doesn\'t work15:47
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inana_16https://mattermost.com/ Camba is using this. jelkner, LittleBrother, abuchholz , SITarabuta15:49
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inana_16!remind Comment about our meeting with Camba15:52
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ubuntouristinana_16, Mattermost, Matrix, Synapse, Riot.im... There are only so many hours in the day and a finite amount of disk space. ๐Ÿ˜‰15:54
ubuntourist(Those are all similar products -- all trying to be the next Slack.)15:54
inana_16Yeah, I noticed. I think I'm going to try mattermost because we want to connect with them15:55
inana_16they invited us to join them15:55
ubuntouristinana_16, I have used them all..15:55
inana_16which one is your favorite?15:55
inana_16ubuntourist15:56
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ubuntouristinana_16, I don't really like any of them. I am not even a big fan of IRC.15:56
inana_16lol I see15:57
inana_16I think I need to try them, I used slack and I like it, so I would like something pretty similar to that15:57
ubuntouristinana_16, I prefer the two extremes: Either video (or audio) conferencing, or e-mail.15:58
inana_16I see, I think video or audio is not my favorite thing sometimes15:59
ubuntouristIf I'm typing, I like time to edit what I type, formatting it, checking for spelling and other errors, and forming longer, complete thoughts.15:59
ubuntouristFor conversation, I'd rather hear someone's voice, instead of waiting while they slowly type stuff in.15:59
PAldea : SITarabuta : @ubuntourist : lelkneralfaro : abuchholz : zOnny : +jelkner : inana_16 : @mjsir911 : @ChanServ16:00
Comment about our meeting with Camba (inana_16)16:00
inana_16Hello everyone!16:00
inana_16:)16:00
PAldeaHello!16:00
ubuntouristHi.16:00
SITarabutaMorning16:00
abuchholzgood afternoon16:00
inana_16Alright, let's start16:01
ubuntouristACTION reaches for and opens the sacred Can of Caffeine.16:01
inana_16first item: UTC or not?16:01
SITarabutaI've seen that half of our servers are in UTC and half are in local time.16:01
SITarabutaI've always been setting them to UTC, but if someone would like to recommend something else, go ahead.16:02
SITarabuta I know ubuntourist likes Local Time.16:02
lelkneralfarohi!16:02
jelknerMy understanding is that UTC is the way to go in the 21st century16:02
jelknersince it lets everyone around the world have the same time16:02
SITarabutaBut the problem with that is Daylight Time Saving and different timezones in case we wil have servers in more places16:02
SITarabutayes jelkner16:02
jelknerand avoids confusion16:02
ubuntouristI vote localtime. The hardware can be UTC, but I find it confusing to schedule things when they're in UTC. But if SITarabuta is involved from Scotland... it's more than an hour out of sync.16:02
SITarabutaso, it's a vote16:03
SITarabutaOther people weigh in please?16:03
abuchholzi think UTC is better16:03
abuchholzjust because we have more than one timezone16:03
abuchholzits not just EST16:03
abuchholzand if we become global...16:04
ubuntouristWell, I was expressing a persional preference, but also the caveat that we're spreading out, and I probably just need to "get used to UTC".16:04
SITarabuta;-)16:04
SITarabutaLet's not all attack ubuntourist :-)16:04
jelknerits like the metric system, ubuntourist 16:04
jelknerand you know how good we gringos are at adapting :-(16:05
SITarabutaso UTC I understand?16:05
ubuntouristjelkner, I've been using that for a while. And then this electronics class screwed me over because the teacher (broadcasting from India) used imperial measures.16:05
ubuntouristACTION can't win. ๐Ÿ˜‰16:06
ubuntouristSITarabuta, yeah. I'll deal.16:06
SITarabutaAwesome16:06
SITarabutaACTION done16:06
inana_16Next item: Shouldn't LibreOrganize Themes be part of the NOVA Web Development group?16:07
SITarabutaStill me.16:07
SITarabutaWell we have this themes repo that is private16:07
SITarabutaand so public shouldn;t see it because it is work that nova web dev does for Money for a certain organization16:07
SITarabutalike NOVALACIRO or AEA16:07
SITarabutathis is technically nova web dev stuff, right?16:07
SITarabutashouldn't it be there?16:07
SITarabutaEspecially in case LibreOrganize will take a clear separation from nova web dev in the future16:08
SITarabutawith "foundation" and stuff16:08
SITarabutaidk, just saying / asking16:08
jelknerSITarabuta, can we talk about this after in hangout?16:08
SITarabutasure16:08
jelknersince i'm not sure i even understand enough to have an opinion16:08
SITarabuta;-)16:09
jelknerand there's no rush, right, SITarabuta?16:09
SITarabutanone at all16:09
jelknercool16:09
SITarabutai just thought of this overnight randomly haha16:09
inana_16still you, SITarabuta : abbyscleaning.us doesn't work16:09
SITarabutaremoved it ;)16:09
SITarabutait works now, it was on my end i think16:09
inana_16But I saw that is working now16:09
SITarabutaI was getting a Gitlab 40116:09
inana_16Sure16:10
SITarabutaACTION skip16:10
inana_16so abuchholz : SoundAdvice progress16:10
abuchholzwait16:10
abuchholzgo back16:10
inana_16?16:10
SITarabutaxD16:10
abuchholzi think abbyscleaning still has an issue16:10
abuchholzif i go to the nwd site 16:10
abuchholzand then go to webistes16:10
abuchholzit gives me a 40116:11
inana_16ACTION going to check now16:11
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ubuntouristACTION states the obvious question: Caching?16:11
abuchholzhttps://projects.gitlab.io/auth?domain=https://www.abbyscleaning.us&state=6erf2gGoc51ymVTW5m5QgA==16:11
abuchholznope16:11
jelknerthat's a zOnny issue16:11
abuchholzits not caching16:11
SITarabutaOh yeah, interesting16:11
abuchholzu can go to the actual URL16:11
jelknerit's been moved to gitlab16:11
abuchholzjust not through our website16:11
ubuntouristACTION didn't think so, but had to ask.16:11
inana_16I just got that is not private, but is not an 40416:11
SITarabutaOHHHHH16:12
SITarabutaI know why16:12
SITarabutabecause our website links www.abbyscleaning.us16:12
abuchholzyeah i think i do too16:12
abuchholzyeah16:12
SITarabutaWWW. doesn't work for gitlab it turns out16:12
SITarabutaweird16:12
inana_16nvm, then I clicked and yeah it says 40416:12
abuchholzanyway16:12
inana_16https://projects.gitlab.io/auth?domain=https://www.abbyscleaning.us&state=udyatAVTKVdTJLc2diefFA==16:12
inana_16same as abuchholz 16:12
abuchholzanyway16:12
abuchholzsmall update on soundadvice16:13
abuchholzso kevin, edzon, paul, and I met up with david on tuesday16:13
abuchholzDavid proposed a couple of things some of which we already knew but needed confirmation16:13
abuchholzregardless 16:13
ubuntouristACTION noticed a boatload o' commits from abuchholz ...16:13
abuchholzi have removed the rating button, the client name, and added a disable button.16:13
SITarabutaubuntourist, he commits line by line16:13
jelknerACTION hopes abuchholz is tracking his hours!16:13
SITarabutaACTION just kidding16:13
abuchholzNext steps are going to loading in new sounds, recording values of signal and volume, etc.16:14
ubuntouristSITarabuta, So do I. ๐Ÿ˜‰ Just not as often.16:14
jelknerabuchholz, are you working with PAldea on this?16:14
abuchholzI am going to see if I can meet with David once I am done with these general updates16:14
jelkneri'm glad to see it moving16:14
jelknerbut this is a big project16:14
jelknerwe need to get the process right16:15
abuchholzyeah16:15
jelknercool16:15
abuchholzPAldea I have issues on the repo which I will link in a second16:15
abuchholzfeel free to choose one. 16:15
PAldeasure16:15
SITarabutaACTION can hear abuchholz furiously type16:15
ubuntouristabuchholz, the loading of sounds, levels, etc isn't our problem. That's all done via Kyma, which we don't have.16:15
abuchholzhttps://gitlab.com/novawebdevelopment/pythonqt16:15
abuchholzyeah but didnt david say he wanted to change situations16:16
abuchholzlike go from the restaurant to the living room16:16
SITarabutatick tock, 15 minutes left on the clock16:16
abuchholzwe can talk about this more after ubuntourist16:16
abuchholzACTION done.16:16
inana_16Ok I just wanted to add this: Comment about our meeting with Camba16:16
jelkneryou all should meet after16:16
ubuntouristabuchholz, Right. But that's theirs to configure. More later.16:17
inana_16we had a great meeting with jelkner, lelkneralfaro  and Neto from Camba16:17
jelknerCambรก16:17
SITarabutaACTION is going to deploy an in-progress update for Business Tracker so people can track their hours on tracker.novawebdevelopment.org ;)16:17
jelkneras inana_16 keeps reminding me ;-)16:17
lelkneralfarojelkner, now you're getting it ;)16:17
inana_16They're were so open with us and invited us to join them and connect with them on the cooperatives model that they're implementing16:18
inana_16they're really committed to help other small cooperatives as our16:18
inana_16and I think It will be really great to be close to them, same case with Agaric16:19
jelknerfriends, we are going to survive that's to the warm generosity of the cooperative movement16:19
inana_16cooperatives helping each other16:19
jelknerlet's never forget that when it comes time to give back16:19
inana_16+116:19
SITarabutajelkner 1% discount on Business Tracker deployment ;-)16:20
SITarabutaLOL16:20
inana_16In fact other thing I wanted to mentioned that we are going to meet with Clayton for a side design project with Agaric16:20
inana_16so, things are moving.16:20
ubuntouristjelkner, What's Micky's favorite beer? ๐Ÿ˜‰16:20
inana_16ACTION done16:20
jelknerubuntourist, i don't think i know that16:21
inana_16We need to ask her ;)16:21
SITarabutaWe are giving back!16:21
SITarabutaBeer!16:21
jelknerworks for me16:21
inana_16Ok anyone has anything else?16:21
SITarabuta*terms and conditions apply*16:21
ubuntouristACTION 's got nothing.16:22
SITarabutaACTION silence coming from SITarabuta's keyboard16:22
inana_16ACTION drops the bag of gravel16:22
jelknerthanks, inana_16!16:22
inana_16Thanks everyone!16:22
ubuntouristACTION is switching to hangout...16:22
jelknerremember, my participation on sunday is iffy16:23
inana_16Have a great day / weekend16:23
inana_16I know16:23
jelknerthanks!16:23
jelknerACTION signs off16:23
SITarabutaAnd remember, the bag of gravel is dropped from  a safe distance16:23
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inana_16GFbot, necesito hacer una llamada con vos para explicarte algo16:32
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