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jelkner | !remind | 11:22 |
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jelkner | !remind Objections to jelkner using our novawebdev-learn channel with his students this year? | 11:23 |
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jelkner | !remind | 12:47 |
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jelkner | !remind Can we delay signing our Operating Agreement a week or so to enable input from BCI? | 12:47 |
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jelkner | !remind | 12:47 |
Consciously growing our dev team - review progress (jelkner) | 12:47 | |
Whose going to the Worker Co-op Conference? (jelkner) | 12:47 | |
Status of and plans for LibreOrganize development (jelkner) | 12:47 | |
Objections to jelkner using our novawebdev-learn channel with his students this year? (jelkner) | 12:47 | |
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inana_16 | zOnny, jelkner? | 14:01 |
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inana_16 | we're waiting on planning | 14:01 |
SITarabuta | morning! | 14:01 |
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inana_16 | !remind | 14:18 |
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Whose going to the Worker Co-op Conference? (jelkner) | 14:18 | |
Status of and plans for LibreOrganize development (jelkner) | 14:18 | |
Objections to jelkner using our novawebdev-learn channel with his students this year? (jelkner) | 14:18 | |
Can we delay signing our Operating Agreement a week or so to enable input from BCI? (jelkner) | 14:18 | |
SITarabuta | Here it is ipa.novawebdevelopment.org | 14:28 |
lelkneralfaro | jelkner, ping | 14:28 |
inana_16 | https://meet.novawebdevelopment.org/planning lelkneralfaro | 14:42 |
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SITarabuta | hello LittleBrother | 14:48 |
abuchholz | we missed you | 14:48 |
SITarabuta | inana_16, what is going on? | 14:56 |
inana_16 | jitsi is connecting and disconnecting on my end I dont know why:( | 14:56 |
inana_16 | I just try over and over to join | 14:56 |
SITarabuta | hmmm | 14:57 |
inana_16 | OK, trying again | 14:57 |
SITarabuta | that is weird.. | 14:57 |
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inana_16 | SITarabuta, it seems like is my internet connection | 14:59 |
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inana_16 | :( | 15:01 |
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jelkner | lelkneralfaro, ping | 15:38 |
jelkner | i just called amina | 15:38 |
lelkneralfaro | jelkner, pong | 15:38 |
jelkner | she's here now | 15:38 |
amina | Hello! | 15:38 |
lelkneralfaro | amina, hi! | 15:38 |
jelkner | let's talk about her project | 15:38 |
lelkneralfaro | sure | 15:38 |
jelkner | amina, could you tell lelkneralfaro what your website is about? | 15:39 |
amina | My website is about a club that my friend and I are creating called Students for Racial Equity | 15:39 |
amina | It is basically about creating a more equitable environment in APS | 15:39 |
amina | We are going to do "empathy interviews" with students to hear different perspectives and I hope to put our podcasts on the website as well | 15:40 |
jelkner | amina, did you get a chance to think about my pitch of using LibreOrganize for it? | 15:41 |
lelkneralfaro | amina, that sounds like a great project :) | 15:41 |
amina | like using CMS? | 15:42 |
jelkner | LibreOrganize has CMS components | 15:42 |
jelkner | so yes | 15:42 |
jelkner | but it has more than that | 15:42 |
jelkner | the reason i came up with the idea | 15:42 |
jelkner | is that i was trying to solve two problems at the same time: | 15:43 |
jelkner | 1. How to help amina develop her skills related to our cooperative? | 15:43 |
jelkner | 2. How to make LibreOrganize more useful to folks in community organizations? | 15:43 |
jelkner | it hit me, since amina is interning with us, and she is in a community organization... | 15:44 |
jelkner | she would be in a perfect position to help with both goals at the same time! ;-) | 15:44 |
jelkner | ACTION done pitching | 15:45 |
jelkner | thoughts, amina? | 15:45 |
amina | Yeah, that's a great idea! | 15:45 |
jelkner | amina, did you get a chance to talk to your friend? | 15:45 |
jelkner | who is doing the website with you | 15:46 |
amina | Not quite yet, I was holding off on talking with my friend because I have a meeting with her and the teacher sponsor today. So I wanted to talk to both of them about that | 15:46 |
jelkner | great | 15:46 |
jelkner | what time is that meeting? | 15:46 |
amina | I am really the only person doing the website design, but we are planning on using GoDaddy to host our website to make it easier for my friend to use | 15:47 |
amina | It is at 2:00pm | 15:47 |
amina | Eastern Time | 15:47 |
jelkner | perfect | 15:47 |
jelkner | so, could you ask them if they would be ok with letting NOVA Web Development host instead | 15:47 |
jelkner | ? | 15:47 |
jelkner | since that would be necessary if we want to use LibreOrganize | 15:48 |
amina | Yeah sure! | 15:48 |
jelkner | cool | 15:48 |
jelkner | let's talk at 3:30 pm on planning | 15:48 |
jelkner | and find out what they said, and plan next steps | 15:48 |
jelkner | make sense? | 15:48 |
amina | Okay sounds good. And I would be hosting the meeting, correct? | 15:49 |
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jelkner | which meeting, at 3:30 pm? | 15:49 |
amina | The 2:00 one | 15:49 |
jelkner | now i'm confused | 15:49 |
jelkner | i thought you already had a meeting at 2 pm | 15:50 |
jelkner | what i am saying is: | 15:50 |
jelkner | 1. at 2 pm you meet with your classmate and teacher sponsor | 15:50 |
jelkner | ask them if they are ok with this idea of using our platform for the website | 15:50 |
amina | Ohh okay, sorry about that, I got confused with the wording | 15:51 |
jelkner | 2. at 3:30 pm, you join NOVA Websters on our regular Jitsi pre-meeting hangout on planning | 15:51 |
jelkner | and let us know what they (classmate and teacher) said | 15:51 |
jelkner | if they are ok with the idea, we plan next steps | 15:51 |
jelkner | make sense? | 15:51 |
amina | Yes(y) | 15:52 |
jelkner | cool ;-) | 15:52 |
jelkner | see you at 3:30 pm | 15:52 |
amina | Okay, see you! | 15:52 |
amina | :] | 15:52 |
jelkner | lelkneralfaro, just tried to call you | 15:54 |
jelkner | got your voice mail | 15:55 |
lelkneralfaro | yeah my phone is unreliable | 15:55 |
lelkneralfaro | ill call you | 15:55 |
jelkner | thnx! | 15:55 |
jelkner | 703-998-3934 | 15:55 |
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inana_16 | jelkner, | 17:41 |
inana_16 | Should I reply to JoJo on that email thread or just you | 17:41 |
inana_16 | ? | 17:41 |
jelkner | inana_16, hola | 17:57 |
jelkner | sorry for the delay | 17:57 |
inana_16 | I just did it | 17:58 |
inana_16 | :) | 17:58 |
inana_16 | jelkner, https://share.mayfirst.org/s/zL2Sbyk3sdXPywp | 18:08 |
abuchholz | !remind | 18:58 |
Consciously growing our dev team - review progress (jelkner) | 18:58 | |
Whose going to the Worker Co-op Conference? (jelkner) | 18:58 | |
Status of and plans for LibreOrganize development (jelkner) | 18:58 | |
Objections to jelkner using our novawebdev-learn channel with his students this year? (jelkner) | 18:58 | |
Can we delay signing our Operating Agreement a week or so to enable input from BCI? (jelkner) | 18:58 | |
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inana_16 | !remind | 19:30 |
Consciously growing our dev team - review progress (jelkner) | 19:30 | |
Whose going to the Worker Co-op Conference? (jelkner) | 19:30 | |
Status of and plans for LibreOrganize development (jelkner) | 19:30 | |
Objections to jelkner using our novawebdev-learn channel with his students this year? (jelkner) | 19:30 | |
Can we delay signing our Operating Agreement a week or so to enable input from BCI? (jelkner) | 19:30 | |
inana_16 | Hello everyone! | 19:31 |
lelkneralfaro | Hi inana_16 | 19:31 |
GFbot | Hello | 19:32 |
inana_16 | So welcome to the new meeting time | 19:32 |
inana_16 | First item: Consciously growing our dev team - review progress | 19:32 |
abuchholz | wait | 19:32 |
abuchholz | what | 19:32 |
abuchholz | no | 19:32 |
abuchholz | we start at 4:00 | 19:33 |
inana_16 | :( | 19:33 |
SITarabuta | haha | 19:33 |
inana_16 | Okay | 19:33 |
abuchholz | meeting on jitsi at 3:30 | 19:33 |
abuchholz | lol | 19:33 |
inana_16 | hey | 19:33 |
inana_16 | :( | 19:33 |
inana_16 | I was excited | 19:33 |
inana_16 | lol | 19:33 |
abuchholz | don't blame you ;) | 19:33 |
inana_16 | all this reschedule thing drives me crazy abuchholz | 19:34 |
inana_16 | :( | 19:34 |
abuchholz | yeah i get that | 19:34 |
inana_16 | is sad abuchholz | 19:34 |
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amina : zOnny : GFbot : inana_16 : +jelkner : abuchholz : SITarabuta : lelkneralfaro : wolcen : @mjsir911 : @ChanServ | 20:00 | |
Good afternoon everyone! | 20:00 | |
It's 16:00 UTC and NOVA Web Development's bi-weekly meeting is starting. | 20:00 | |
This is the agenda for today: | 20:00 | |
Consciously growing our dev team - review progress (jelkner) | 20:00 | |
Whose going to the Worker Co-op Conference? (jelkner) | 20:00 | |
Status of and plans for LibreOrganize development (jelkner) | 20:00 | |
Objections to jelkner using our novawebdev-learn channel with his students this year? (jelkner) | 20:00 | |
Can we delay signing our Operating Agreement a week or so to enable input from BCI? (jelkner) | 20:00 | |
Have a nice day! | 20:00 | |
abuchholz | silly bot its not 16:00 UTC. Good Afternoon :) | 20:00 |
inana_16 | Hello everyone! (again) | 20:00 |
lelkneralfaro | inana_16, hello! (again) | 20:00 |
inana_16 | lol | 20:00 |
jelkner | Good afternoon! | 20:00 |
SITarabuta | good after'oon! | 20:01 |
inana_16 | So, let's start | 20:01 |
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inana_16 | first item: Consciously growing our dev team - review progress | 20:01 |
inana_16 | jelkner | 20:01 |
jelkner | Good afternoon, PAldea | 20:01 |
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PAldea | Hello! | 20:01 |
jelkner | i'll keep this short for now | 20:01 |
jelkner | i made phone calls to the three interns who have been sticking with us | 20:02 |
jelkner | all of whom are here now | 20:02 |
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SITarabuta | he may have not forgotten after all | 20:02 |
SITarabuta | ;-) | 20:02 |
jelkner | we need to consciously find ways for them to become more engaged and to develop their skills | 20:02 |
jelkner | i created an issue and assigned it to PAldea | 20:02 |
jelkner | i've been talking with amina about a project | 20:03 |
jelkner | i left a message with cmoran, who emailed me back, but we haven't spoken yet | 20:03 |
jelkner | ongoing process, but that's my update for today | 20:03 |
jelkner | ACTION done | 20:03 |
inana_16 | Great | 20:04 |
SITarabuta | awesome! | 20:04 |
inana_16 | ;) | 20:04 |
inana_16 | Ok, next item: Whose going to the Worker Co-op Conference? | 20:04 |
inana_16 | jelkner | 20:05 |
jelkner | i am | 20:05 |
inana_16 | o/ | 20:05 |
jelkner | i'm just looking for a list | 20:05 |
SITarabuta | It's virtual right? What do you suggest? should I attend? | 20:05 |
jelkner | so i can send you a link to a movie | 20:05 |
jelkner | yes, SITarabuta, you should | 20:05 |
SITarabuta | Then I will ;-) | 20:06 |
ubuntourist | I signed up... | 20:06 |
jelkner | training in cooperative business is important for all worker / owners | 20:06 |
inana_16 | +1 | 20:06 |
jelkner | ACTION done | 20:06 |
jelkner | let me know, and i'll send you the link | 20:06 |
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inana_16 | thanks, jelkner | 20:06 |
inana_16 | next item: Status of and plans for LibreOrganize development | 20:07 |
jelkner | ok, just a summary here | 20:07 |
jelkner | we've been talking about this much of today | 20:07 |
jelkner | main areas to consider / explore | 20:07 |
jelkner | 1. should we try to get AEA to vote online this year? | 20:07 |
jelkner | 2. what are we learning from CIDU, NOVALACIRO, CJS to inform our future development plans? | 20:08 |
ubuntourist | COVID-19 has certainly made online voting more of a priority... | 20:08 |
SITarabuta | Our toddler might not be a toddler after all... | 20:08 |
jelkner | ubuntourist, +1 | 20:08 |
jelkner | the issue i assigned to PAldea is LO related | 20:08 |
jelkner | so let's check in on this again next week | 20:09 |
jelkner | ACTION done | 20:09 |
inana_16 | Great! | 20:09 |
inana_16 | next item: Objections to jelkner using our novawebdev-learn channel with his students this year? | 20:09 |
ubuntourist | To his point 2: We're learning that people are crazy enough to hire us. ;-) | 20:10 |
inana_16 | +1 | 20:10 |
jelkner | ok, apologies everyone, but this is a point of personal privilege | 20:10 |
SITarabuta | No objections, but we *just* closed them down and deleted all the logs a few weeks ago ;-) | 20:10 |
jelkner | i am desperately trying to figure out the workflow to use with students this year | 20:10 |
jelkner | i can explain on Jitsi (once SITarabuta makes it work again ;-) | 20:11 |
ubuntourist | jelkner, an IRC channel, you mean? | 20:11 |
jelkner | yes, ubuntourist | 20:11 |
jelkner | the one we used to have | 20:11 |
SITarabuta | it works already jelkner ;-) | 20:11 |
jelkner | yes, SITarabuta, but i'm asking for permission to use it in this way | 20:11 |
jelkner | with my students | 20:11 |
jelkner | for class | 20:11 |
SITarabuta | ah, I see | 20:11 |
jelkner | seems to me this needs a vote | 20:12 |
ubuntourist | jelkner, I'm not certain what the objection might be, unless it's the naming issue... even then, I'm not sure why it's a question. | 20:12 |
jelkner | because, ubuntourist | 20:12 |
jelkner | it is nova web infrastructure | 20:12 |
jelkner | and i'm using it for school | 20:12 |
SITarabuta | Actually, it is Freenode infrastructure ;-) | 20:12 |
SITarabuta | I love being that guy | 20:13 |
jelkner | not the logger | 20:13 |
jelkner | LittleBrother | 20:13 |
SITarabuta | point taken | 20:13 |
ubuntourist | jelkner, ah. The logging. | 20:13 |
jelkner | which is a key piece of it | 20:13 |
SITarabuta | *stalling* | 20:13 |
jelkner | well, it would take 4 yes votes to do it | 20:14 |
jelkner | i vote yes ;-) | 20:14 |
ubuntourist | jelkner, I don't have any objection. But if others choose to have similar uses, there should be no quibbles. | 20:14 |
ubuntourist | So +1 | 20:14 |
jelkner | +1 | 20:14 |
SITarabuta | I am using my rights as a member to cast my first vote and I will use this opportunity to announce to everyone that I vote: | 20:15 |
SITarabuta | *drum rolls* | 20:15 |
SITarabuta | yes | 20:15 |
inana_16 | Sounds good | 20:15 |
lelkneralfaro | +1 | 20:15 |
jelkner | cool, thanks! | 20:15 |
inana_16 | +1 | 20:15 |
zOnny | -1 | 20:15 |
ubuntourist | jelkner, any concerns about privacy, etc? (Not from us, but from anyone who might have a stick up their butt?) | 20:15 |
zOnny | Oops +1 | 20:15 |
SITarabuta | LoL | 20:15 |
inana_16 | lol | 20:15 |
jelkner | ubuntourist, i'll explain | 20:16 |
jelkner | after the meeting | 20:16 |
ubuntourist | OK. | 20:16 |
jelkner | ubuntourist, you'll find it interesting | 20:16 |
jelkner | methinks | 20:16 |
ubuntourist | ACTION is done | 20:16 |
SITarabuta | Make them sign a thing where they give up their rights to privacy and them make them sign a syllabus that requires them to give in their soul to LittleBrother | 20:16 |
SITarabuta | ACTION done | 20:17 |
ubuntourist | SITarabuta, The irony of Little Brother being Big Brother... | 20:17 |
SITarabuta | ;-) | 20:17 |
inana_16 | last item: Can we delay signing our Operating Agreement a week or so to enable input from BCI? | 20:17 |
jelkner | ok, me again | 20:18 |
jelkner | we need to get other members to play a more active role in agendas! | 20:18 |
jelkner | i don't know if you saw the emails this morning | 20:18 |
SITarabuta | Apart from the fact that August 31st sounds nice from an OCD point of view, I don't see a problem with us delaying it | 20:18 |
jelkner | but Geoff from BCI has been a huge help | 20:18 |
ubuntourist | A delay seems prudent based on e-mails | 20:18 |
jelkner | he is a lawyer who works with coops | 20:18 |
jelkner | and he has been helping us with our OA | 20:19 |
jelkner | SITarabuta leaves around 9/10 | 20:19 |
SITarabuta | Got more updates, make it later jelkner ;-) don't worry about me! | 20:19 |
jelkner | we should do whatever we can to get it finished before he leaves | 20:19 |
jelkner | but one more week could be a huge help | 20:19 |
jelkner | btw. latest update is available at: https://novawebdevelopment.org/public/documents/OperatingAgreement.pdf | 20:20 |
jelkner | it incorporates most of Geoff's feedback | 20:20 |
jelkner | lelkneralfaro will follow up on one more item | 20:20 |
jelkner | ubuntourist, i need your help with signing please ;-) | 20:20 |
jelkner | looks like we may want to go back to GPG | 20:20 |
SITarabuta | This is starting to look more and more serious. I like it | 20:21 |
jelkner | let's talk after | 20:21 |
jelkner | ACTION done | 20:21 |
inana_16 | "Hourly (But Not Guaranteed) Payments. Members will track their hours worked, including | 20:21 |
inana_16 | project, administrative, and any other kind of work for the Cooperative" | 20:21 |
jelkner | +1 | 20:21 |
lelkneralfaro | inana_16, +1 | 20:21 |
jelkner | btw, and make note of this interns | 20:22 |
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jelkner | i drove checks to SITarabuta and abuchholz yesterday | 20:22 |
jelkner | big ones! | 20:22 |
inana_16 | that means track EVERYTHING ;) | 20:22 |
jelkner | so it really is possible to get paid here ;-) | 20:22 |
jelkner | thanks to Gallaudet | 20:22 |
SITarabuta | I mean Gallaudet is amazing, but we've also done amazing stuff for them | 20:23 |
abuchholz | and thats a fact | 20:23 |
jelkner | +1 | 20:23 |
jelkner | we deliver | 20:23 |
jelkner | they like us for it | 20:23 |
jelkner | ACTION done | 20:23 |
SITarabuta | and we like their money ;-) | 20:23 |
SITarabuta | ACTION done - I am talking too much today | 20:23 |
inana_16 | Alright | 20:24 |
inana_16 | anyone has anything to add? | 20:24 |
ubuntourist | SITarabuta, what's the state of of NWD SSO stuff? I think I missed the memo. ;-) Can't start a jitsi meet. | 20:24 |
SITarabuta | Yep, sorry about that! I was going to send an email around 6:00 | 20:25 |
SITarabuta | I did get some set up today at 10:00. | 20:25 |
ubuntourist | SITarabuta, I'm not in a tearing hurry. I just wanted to be sure I hadn't missed a memo. ;-) So later today is fine w/ me. | 20:26 |
SITarabuta | But I will you get you the stuff today ;-) | 20:26 |
ubuntourist | ACTION is done | 20:26 |
SITarabuta | Awesome! No missed memo ubuntourist | 20:26 |
inana_16 | ACTION Drops the bag of gravel | 20:26 |
jelkner | awesome, inana_16 | 20:26 |
ubuntourist | hangout? | 20:26 |
jelkner | planning | 20:26 |
inana_16 | Thanks everyone | 20:26 |
jelkner | thank you, inana_16! | 20:26 |
inana_16 | zOnny, GFbot need to have a meeting now jelkner | 20:27 |
GFbot | gogog | 20:27 |
inana_16 | zOnny, we're waiting | 20:29 |
jelkner | ACTION signs off for the day | 21:27 |
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jelkner | ubuntourist, ping | 22:25 |
jelkner | inana_16, ping | 22:25 |
jelkner | zOnny, ping | 22:25 |
jelkner | i have a meeting in 4 minutes | 22:26 |
jelkner | but zOnny, 8 am sunday, yes? | 22:26 |
zOnny | jelkner yes | 22:26 |
jelkner | thanks, zOnny, i'll be standing in the usual place ;-) | 22:26 |
jelkner | inana_16, dante is asking for an "About Us" page for CJS site | 22:26 |
jelkner | should i just forward you that? | 22:27 |
jelkner | ubuntourist, friendly reminder that Peter is presenting to us tomorrow at 2 pm | 22:27 |
inana_16 | Hello jelkner | 22:27 |
jelkner | ubuntourist, maybe we can also take a look the gitlab signing process then too | 22:27 |
inana_16 | please | 22:28 |
jelkner | and even a wee bit of TDD ;-) | 22:28 |
ubuntourist | jelkner, thanks for the reminder. | 22:58 |
ubuntourist | jelkner, | 23:00 |
ubuntourist | https://meet.novawebdevelopment.org/csc205 right? | 23:00 |
ubuntourist | inana_16, Have you done anything with git yourself? And do you do that from a terminal command line? | 23:09 |
ubuntourist | inana_16, (I don't mean filing issues.) | 23:10 |
inana_16 | Not really ubuntourist | 23:22 |
inana_16 | anything | 23:22 |
ubuntourist | inana_16, Ah. I'm considering how to write the document-signing tutorial. Are you running an Ubuntu Linux computer? | 23:23 |
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