IRC log of #novawebdev for Sunday, 2020-09-27

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Progress toward handling *business*. Shout out to zOnny and nrcerna! (jelkner)14:15
ST checkin - who talked with Marco? (jelkner)14:15
SchoolTool is ready. (SITarabuta)14:15
nrcernaGM jelkner 14:17
jelknerGM nrcerna 14:18
nrcernahow are you_14:18
jelkneri am well, how about you?14:18
nrcernaThat's great, I'm good.14:18
nrcernaI would like to know more about the fist item before our meeting14:19
nrcernaI'm on planning btw14:19
jelknerlet me get more school work done until 11:30 am14:20
jelkneri'll jump on planning then14:20
nrcernaACTION AWAY brb at 11:3014:38
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nrcernaACTION Back15:24
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Progress toward handling *business*. Shout out to zOnny and nrcerna! (jelkner)15:32
ST checkin - who talked with Marco? (jelkner)15:32
SchoolTool is ready. (SITarabuta)15:32
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Progress toward handling *business*. Shout out to zOnny and nrcerna! (jelkner)15:44
ST checkin - who talked with Marco? (jelkner)15:44
SchoolTool is ready. (SITarabuta)15:44
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jelknerzOnny, lelkneralfaro, can you join us on planning?15:46
nrcernazOnny, created this for NOVALACIRO
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Progress toward handling *business*. Shout out to zOnny and nrcerna! (jelkner)15:53
ST checkin - who talked with Marco? (jelkner)15:53
SchoolTool is ready. (SITarabuta)15:53
Progress toward handling *business*. Shout out to zOnny and nrcerna! (jelkner)15:53
ST checkin - who talked with Marco? (jelkner)15:53
SchoolTool is ready. (SITarabuta)15:53
SITarabuta!remove SchoolTool is ready.15:54
'SchoolTool is ready.' removed from the message queue15:54
Progress toward handling *business*. Shout out to zOnny and nrcerna! (jelkner)15:55
ST checkin - who talked with Marco? (jelkner)15:55
nrcerna!remind Platform Co-ops incubator/accelerator15:55
'Platform Co-ops incubator/accelerator' added to message queue15:55
Progress toward handling *business*. Shout out to zOnny and nrcerna! (jelkner)15:56
ST checkin - who talked with Marco? (jelkner)15:56
Platform Co-ops incubator/accelerator (nrcerna)15:56
nrcerna!remind Plans for this week15:56
'Plans for this week' added to message queue15:56
Progress toward handling *business*. Shout out to zOnny and nrcerna! (jelkner)15:56
ST checkin - who talked with Marco? (jelkner)15:56
Platform Co-ops incubator/accelerator (nrcerna)15:56
Plans for this week (nrcerna)15:56
SITarabuta!remind Backups? Backups...15:57
'Backups? Backups...' added to message queue15:57
zOnnyjelkner: edzon.quinteros@gmail.com15:58
ubuntouristSITarabuta, Hiccups? 😉15:59
SITarabutaubuntourist, yeah.. I ran out of space on my computer LoL15:59
GFbot : @ubuntourist : SITarabuta : PAldea : abuchholz : lelkneralfaro : zOnny : nrcerna : +jelkner : wolcen : @ChanServ : @msirabella16:00
Good afternoon everyone!16:00
It's 16:00 UTC and NOVA Web Development's bi-weekly meeting is starting.16:00
This is the agenda for today:16:00
Progress toward handling *business*. Shout out to zOnny and nrcerna! (jelkner)16:00
ST checkin - who talked with Marco? (jelkner)16:00
Platform Co-ops incubator/accelerator (nrcerna)16:00
Plans for this week (nrcerna)16:00
Backups? Backups... (SITarabuta)16:00
Have a nice day!16:00
nrcernaHello everyone!16:00
abuchholzGood Afternoon!16:00
nrcernaSo first item: Progress toward handling *business*. Shout out to zOnny and nrcerna! 16:01
jelknerGood morning all!16:01
nrcernajelkner and zOnny are doing it now 16:01
jelknerthis was me16:01
nrcernayes jelkner 16:01
SITarabutaThey are shouting out right now!! ;-)16:02
jelkneri just wanted to express my enthusiasm for how well this is going16:02
jelknerwe were contacted by 4 people last week looking for websites16:02
jelknerzOnny handled them all!16:02
nrcernayay! jelkner 16:02
jelkneralso, nrcerna has been learning from ben how to write up cost estimates16:03
nrcernagood job zOnny ;)16:03
ubuntouristSo, jelkner can now retire. 😉16:03
jelknershe did a great job with MSP using what she learned16:03
jelknersoon, ubuntourist, soon ;-)16:03
jelknerall i wanted to say to nrcerna and zOnny is: you rock!16:03
jelknerACTION done16:03
ubuntouristBravo to both.16:03
ubuntouristAnd encore. 😉16:04
nrcernaACTION feels nervous thinking about jelkner retirement 16:04
jelknerACTION will probably die first, nrcerna 16:04
nrcernaACTION actually nervous16:04
SITarabutamy goodness this getting out of hand :-O16:04
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SITarabutaImagine if that happened...16:05
nrcernanext summer ubuntourist 16:05
nrcernahe will be here ;) 16:05
nrcernaright jelkner ?16:05
jelknerthat's the plan16:05
jelknerlet's move on, nrcerna 16:05
nrcernaso next item: ST checkin - who talked with Marco? (jelkner)16:05
jelknerwe have much to do16:05
jelknerok, this is a question for SITarabuta and abuchholz 16:06
SITarabutaWell ST is running at schooltool.novawebdevelopment.org16:06
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jelknerwho is driving this ST ship?16:06
SITarabutaI haven't found a better place for it16:06
abuchholzSITarabuta, is16:06
jelknerSITarabuta, you are missing the point16:06
jelknermy concern is from a business point of view16:06
ubuntouristACTION pings msirabella just in case...16:06
SITarabutaMight be16:06
SITarabutaAlways has been16:06
jelknerwe have someone, isaac zawolo, who came to us asking for an estimate16:06
jelknerif we want to stay in business, SITarabuta, we need to be able to provide estimates16:07
SITarabutaI can give you an estimate jelkner 16:07
jelknerin this case, you should not give an estimate without talking to msirabella 16:07
jelknerthat would not be prudent16:07
jelknerdon't you think, SITarabuta?16:07
jelkneri mean, he is the one who dockerized it16:07
SITarabutabut like the server costs the same no matter what jelkner 16:08
SITarabutaand schooltool16:08
SITarabutahasn't been updated in years16:08
SITarabutaso nothing's gonna change16:08
jelknerSITarabuta, we need to estimate what likely maintaince and support are going to be16:08
jelkneragain, msirabella did that16:08
SITarabutaokay then I will just get the old numbers16:09
ubuntouristSITarabuta, methinks there will still be "support" questions...16:09
jelknerwe need to learn to do this16:09
jelknersome of it will only come with a few years of experience16:09
jelknerwhich, obviously, will take a few years to acquire ;-)16:09
ubuntouristSITarabuta, maybe not software updates, but stuff does go down and people do make mistakes / misunderstand stuff. Both would require an "intervention". 16:10
jelknerbut for now, we need to anticipate as well as we can16:10
jelknerso, SITarabuta, can you *please* reach out to msirabella?16:10
ubuntouristThink of it as a retainer for future services to be offered.16:10
jelknerhe keeps your hours anyway16:10
SITarabutaI can16:10
jelknerespecially now that he is on the west coast16:10
jelknerwhich is why he isn't here now16:11
jelknerACTION done16:11
nrcernanext item: Platform Co-ops incubator/accelerator16:11
nrcernaI just forwarded an email 16:11
nrcernawe did receive news from Platform coops16:12
ubuntouristACTION wanders off to skim...16:12
nrcernait would be great if we I apply for that since we have the requirement16:12
nrcernathat is : SITarabuta 16:13
nrcernathey're pointing this website:
nrcernathis is the apply url:
nrcernaACTION done16:15
nrcernai think is just connecting16:15
nrcernawe're learning to do it ;)16:16
nrcernaguys, we still have a meeting here jelkner, ubuntourist , SITarabuta 16:16
jelknerso, this is a *big* conversation, nrcerna 16:16
jelknerwe should move to planning16:16
nrcernaI know16:16
jelknerbut we should definitely follow up16:16
ubuntouristACTION apologizes. 😉16:17
nrcernanext item: Plans for this week16:17
jelknerACTION will continue trying to move forward on lucky number 716:17
ubuntouristACTION was hoping to get back to test-driven design LAST week, but has been finishing Altair 8800 and will continue that this week.16:18
abuchholzACTION LibreOrganize refactor with SITarabuta16:18
ubuntouristACTION is "almost done" with that. So, maybe TDD this week.16:18
jelknerACTION will also continue outreach to tech co-ops about us FACT[TIC] interest16:18
SITarabutaOnly if my lovely soul could find one thing to work on and not 10: Set up LDAP + Kerberos, Migrate Jitsi Auth to the new setup, More LibreOrganize refactoring, And other crap I presume, such as migrating more servers to LDAP auth16:18
lelkneralfaroACTION assisting @zOnny on following up/delivering to new clients16:18
nrcernaACTION MSP website, learning how to intall BT on my machine with Louie, Business tracker documentation , Following up upcoming on website projects 16:18
GFbotACTION teach chapter 6 of DJ4E16:19
nrcernaanyone else? 16:19
ubuntouristGotta check. I may be doing a DC Stakeholder's meeting too... I've lost track of when that is.16:19
nrcernaso next item: Backups? Backups... 16:20
SITarabutajust as a nice closure item16:20
SITarabutaMy computer has about 200GB of NWD backups in it and it is crying for help16:20
SITarabutaI've moved all documents and and old WebFaction backups and invoices on NextCloud16:21
SITarabutabut I don't think .img whole system backups can go there16:21
SITarabutaI don't even know what our storage limit is16:21
SITarabutaSo, what am I gonna do about those16:21
SITarabuta^ that is a question btw, just without a question mark lol16:22
jelknerSITarabuta, just who did you expect to answer?16:23
jelknerthis does expose a problem, SITarabuta 16:23
jelknerour single point of failure16:23
SITarabutaidk, but I don't know what I should do truth be told. I really want to reinstall Windows16:23
SITarabutaok then: to be discussed at a later date16:24
SITarabutaACTION done16:24
nrcernathanks SITarabuta, jelkner 16:24
nrcernaAnyone has anything to say?16:24
ubuntouristDC Stakeholders meeting: Tue 2020-09-29 13:00 – 14:30. lelkneralfaro care to join? (I'm planning to, but it's nice to have more than one.)16:24
ubuntouristlelkneralfaro, since you're a DC stakeholder, presumably...16:25
ubuntouristACTION is done16:25
lelkneralfaroubuntourist, let me take a look one sec16:25
lelkneralfaroubuntourist, yup I'll join ya16:26
nrcernaACTION drops the bag of gravel16:26
ubuntouristACTION thinks it may be a monthly meeting.16:26
nrcernaThanks everyone!16:26
nrcernahave a great week16:26
jelknerthanks, nrcerna!16:26
jelknerlet's continue on planning16:26
GFbotnrcerna can we meet?16:27
GFboton meeting?16:27
GFbotor hangout16:27
ubuntouristGFbot, planning16:27
nrcernaI'm on planning now but I can switch to another channel if you want GFbot 16:28
GFbotnrcerna yep16:28
nrcernaOk just 5 mins lo GFbot 16:28
nrcernaestoy ahi16:30
nrcernaGFbot, por cierto esa informacion que le vas a enviar a Jeff tambien agregala en BT en la informacion de la cuenta 16:40
nrcernaBusiness tracker16:40
nrcerna GFbot 16:41
nrcernaen la informacion de la cuenta16:41
nrcernapodes agregar esa info asi no la perdemos y cualquiera de la cooperativa puede verla en caso la necesite16:41
nrcerna;) GFbot 16:41
abuchholzACTION AFK.16:42
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ubuntouristACTION jelkner You guys are too loud! I can't hear zOnny over you.17:06
abuchholzACTION is back20:59
abuchholzSITarabuta, you there?21:10
abuchholzSITarabuta, ill be on discord!21:24

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