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| jelkner | fkoikoi, Good day! | 12:12 |
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| jelkner | I'm so glad to see you here. | 12:12 |
| fkoikoi | Good morning Jeff | 12:12 |
| jelkner | This is the last day of testing week for me. | 12:12 |
| jelkner | But I do not have to proctor this morning. | 12:12 |
| jelkner | tmickelson will unfortunately still not be here | 12:13 |
| jelkner | until tomorrow | 12:13 |
| jelkner | Hello scooper! | 12:13 |
| scooper | Good morning Jeff | 12:13 |
| fkoikoi | Next week will be the final exam at the Uopeople Jeff | 12:13 |
| scooper | how was you activities this gone week???? | 12:13 |
| jelkner | this is one of my least favorite things to do, scooper | 12:14 |
| jelkner | but it is over for me now! | 12:14 |
| jelkner | i had to proctor tests | 12:14 |
| jelkner | it means sitting silently for 3 hours watching students taking tests | 12:15 |
| jelkner | yuck! | 12:15 |
| scooper | wow see why I didn't see you online these few days...... | 12:15 |
| jelkner | anyway, i don't have to proctor today | 12:15 |
| scooper | Thanks for bring in shmohamud Jeff he is a wonderful tutor | 12:16 |
| jelkner | yes he is! | 12:16 |
| jelkner | and let me tell you, scooper, he is really enjoying working on this project | 12:16 |
| scooper | Myself enjoy working with him | 12:17 |
| scooper | he has given the ability to believe in myself | 12:17 |
| scooper | that I can do this | 12:17 |
| jelkner | that is great, scooper | 12:18 |
| jelkner | you have all you need for success | 12:18 |
| jelkner | so, how is everyone doing getting ready for the West African exam? | 12:18 |
| scooper | +1 | 12:18 |
| scooper | The exam is on as I speak | 12:19 |
| jelkner | oh | 12:19 |
| jelkner | i thought is was june 6? | 12:19 |
| scooper | and will end on June 6 | 12:19 |
| jelkner | got you | 12:19 |
| jelkner | so in Saturday, June 10, we need to celebrate! | 12:19 |
| scooper | hahahah | 12:19 |
| scooper | yes | 12:19 |
| jelkner | when do students learn their scores? | 12:19 |
| scooper | +1 | 12:20 |
| scooper | By September latest | 12:20 |
| jelkner | Got you. | 12:20 |
| jelkner | OK, I'm going to get to lesson planning | 12:20 |
| scooper | How long are you here for today??? | 12:20 |
| jelkner | i have class in 3 hours | 12:21 |
| jelkner | if you need me, i'm available | 12:21 |
| scooper | That mean I can throw some python question right??? | 12:21 |
| jelkner | you could, yes | 12:21 |
| scooper | give me 5 minute let me write a program | 12:22 |
| jelkner | put it in our git repo | 12:22 |
| scooper | ok | 12:22 |
| fkoikoi | Jeff | 12:35 |
| scooper | def reversingvalue(uservalue): | 12:36 |
| scooper | print(uservalue) | 12:36 |
| scooper | 12:36 | |
| scooper | newvalue = reversed(uservalue) | 12:36 |
| scooper | reversingvalue(newvalue("Spencer")) | 12:36 |
| jelkner | scooper, did you put that in the repo? | 12:40 |
| jelkner | i just did a git pull, and didn't see anything new | 12:40 |
| fkoikoi | spencer went to the bathroom | 12:40 |
| jelkner | let him know i'm waiting for his commit, fkoikoi | 12:41 |
| fkoikoi | alright | 12:41 |
| fkoikoi | Jeff, the term will end on the 4th of June | 12:42 |
| jelkner | fkoikoi, how are you doing? | 12:53 |
| fkoikoi | I'm fine Jeff | 12:53 |
| jelkner | is scooper back yet? | 12:54 |
| fkoikoi | not yet | 12:54 |
| jelkner | i need to run into the main building | 12:54 |
| jelkner | i'll be gone for about 15 minutes | 12:54 |
| jelkner | ACTION away | 12:54 |
| fkoikoi | okay | 12:55 |
| jelkner | i'm back | 13:04 |
| fkoikoi | alright | 13:05 |
| fkoikoi | Jeff? | 13:30 |
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| shmohamud | good dzy! | 14:02 |
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| fkoikoi | Good morning shmohamud | 14:12 |
| shmohamud | how're you fkoikoi? | 14:13 |
| fkoikoi | I'm good and you | 14:13 |
| shmohamud | good good | 14:14 |
| shmohamud | good to hear | 14:14 |
| shmohamud | is Spencer joining us today? | 14:14 |
| fkoikoi | yes | 14:15 |
| shmohamud | do you know what time? | 14:15 |
| fkoikoi | He will soon be with us | 14:17 |
| shmohamud | ok | 14:17 |
| shmohamud | so, can you write me a for loop that prints every number between 1 and 50? | 14:18 |
| fkoikoi | yes | 14:19 |
| scooper | Good morning shmohamud | 14:20 |
| scooper | how are you doing??? | 14:20 |
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| shmohamud | good morning scooper! I'm well, how're you? | 14:22 |
| fkoikoi | number = 50 | 14:22 |
| fkoikoi | for num in range (2, number): | 14:22 |
| fkoikoi | print(num) | 14:22 |
| scooper | I m find but Jeff tired that all...... | 14:22 |
| shmohamud | fkoikoi, can you do it without declaring a variable called number? | 14:23 |
| fkoikoi | yes | 14:23 |
| shmohamud | How do you know Jeff is tired? | 14:23 |
| shmohamud | please show me fkoikoi | 14:24 |
| scooper | sorry | 14:24 |
| scooper | I mean I m find but just tired that all | 14:24 |
| shmohamud | ah, I feel you, same here! | 14:24 |
| shmohamud | are you ready for an opening question? | 14:24 |
| scooper | +1 | 14:25 |
| fkoikoi | value = 50 | 14:25 |
| fkoikoi | for all_value in range (2, value): | 14:25 |
| fkoikoi | print(all_value) | 14:25 |
| shmohamud | write me a for loop that loops through these names: ["sahnun", "spencer", "freena", "jeff"] | 14:25 |
| shmohamud | and prints out every name with a message "Hello from {name}" | 14:26 |
| shmohamud | can you do that? | 14:26 |
| scooper | let me give it a try | 14:26 |
| shmohamud | fkoikoi, can you remove the variable value and change all_value to be "value"? | 14:27 |
| shmohamud | I wil be right back guys, coffee, I'm tired too! | 14:27 |
| shmohamud | back | 14:29 |
| scooper | ok | 14:33 |
| scooper | employees = ["sahnun", "spencer", "freen", "jeff"] | 14:33 |
| scooper | for value in employees: | 14:33 |
| scooper | print(f"Hello {value} did you see the assignment?\n") | 14:33 |
| fkoikoi | amount = 50 | 14:34 |
| fkoikoi | for value in range (2, amount): | 14:34 |
| fkoikoi | print(value) | 14:34 |
| shmohamud | great job spencer! | 14:36 |
| shmohamud | perfect | 14:36 |
| shmohamud | fkoikoi, I was hoping you could do it by replacing "amount" by 50. Sometimes, there's no need to declare a variable and it's more readable by just writing the value in | 14:36 |
| shmohamud | Can you remove the variable declaration and instead just write 50 into the range()? | 14:36 |
| shmohamud | otherwise, it looks great, very close! | 14:37 |
| shmohamud | Spencer do you have any questions for me today? | 14:37 |
| fkoikoi | for value in range (2, 50): | 14:38 |
| fkoikoi | print(value) | 14:38 |
| scooper | pertaining python right??? | 14:38 |
| shmohamud | perfect fkoikoi, great job | 14:38 |
| shmohamud | pertaining to python or programming in general | 14:38 |
| scooper | I m thinking | 14:39 |
| scooper | before post my question in shmohamud | 14:40 |
| scooper | What can I do to really master programming??? | 14:41 |
| shmohamud | 1.) Fall in love with programming | 14:42 |
| scooper | I study three hours every day but something I done really grab the concept | 14:42 |
| shmohamud | 2.) Practice every single day, not a single day off. | 14:42 |
| shmohamud | 3.) When you don't grasp a concept immediately, don't be discouraged. This is very difficult stuff, so just try and then come to Jeff and myself for extra help | 14:43 |
| shmohamud | three hours is good, but the more hours you can put in the better. | 14:43 |
| shmohamud | 4.) Think of personal project ideas for programs, and in your spare time, work on bringing them to life in code | 14:44 |
| shmohamud | Does that advice help? | 14:45 |
| scooper | +1 | 14:45 |
| scooper | Second question??? | 14:45 |
| shmohamud | please shoot | 14:45 |
| scooper | Why it's we have multiple programming language when they have some logic in common... | 14:47 |
| shmohamud | great question | 14:47 |
| shmohamud | because technology is always evolving, we need different languages to handle specific problems that arise. | 14:48 |
| shmohamud | and the truth is they don't have *all* things in common, they just share some basic concepts | 14:49 |
| shmohamud | for example, with C++ you have more control over how memory is stored, compared to a language like javascript | 14:49 |
| fkoikoi | so can a person learn more than two programming language? | 14:50 |
| scooper | yes | 14:51 |
| shmohamud | I know more than two programming languages :) | 14:51 |
| scooper | fkoikoi | 14:51 |
| shmohamud | it's very common | 14:51 |
| shmohamud | but for a beginner, it is advisable to focus and grasp one before moving on | 14:51 |
| shmohamud | the first language is the hardest because the common concepts: variables, loops, data structures, types, conditional logic, etc. are all new | 14:52 |
| shmohamud | do you guys have any other questions for me? | 14:54 |
| scooper | +1 | 14:54 |
| shmohamud | ok, shoot | 14:54 |
| scooper | If I learn Python to the best of my ability or Javascript is it mandatory that I learn other frame before building nice project??? | 14:55 |
| shmohamud | it depends what your definition of "nice project" is. | 14:55 |
| scooper | Like | 14:56 |
| scooper | Building a website with user authentication | 14:56 |
| scooper | Or App | 14:56 |
| shmohamud | javascript is the language tha handles user interaction: clicks, mouse events, keypresses, etc. It is required for a website with user authentication | 14:57 |
| shmohamud | it also has javascript libraries like JWT, javascript web tokens, that can handle user authentication. However, to have a web app, it would also require basic grasp of HTML and CSS | 14:58 |
| shmohamud | javascript is the most challenging of the three | 14:59 |
| shmohamud | once you learn javascript, you can learn JS web frameworks that make building websites very efficient and fast | 15:00 |
| shmohamud | for user authentication, you would also need node.js and one database | 15:02 |
| shmohamud | node.js is server-side javacsript, as opposed to client-side development. It allows you to access databases. https://jwt.io/introduction | 15:03 |
| shmohamud | any further questions? | 15:05 |
| scooper | Thanks | 15:05 |
| fkoikoi | so are you saying that if I want to create and app like facebook or messenger, i will have to learn Python, Jave Script, HTML and CSS? | 15:05 |
| shmohamud | if you want to build an app like facebook, you would need javascript, html, css and server-side language like node.js (similar to javascript) and a database query language | 15:07 |
| scooper | I m learning Django Framwork while learning Python at the same time? I want to stick with this for now it's advisable??? | 15:07 |
| shmohamud | it's advisable to stick mainly to one language at a time | 15:08 |
| shmohamud | once you learn the language, then study frameworks | 15:08 |
| shmohamud | I recommend we start with python, just python. master the Python, then Django will come easy | 15:09 |
| shmohamud | any further questions before we call it a day? | 15:10 |
| scooper | No from my end | 15:10 |
| fkoikoi | wow, thank you so much shmohamud. I learned a lot today and because I want to do programming, I am going to follow your advise and start by studying three hours everyday. | 15:11 |
| shmohamud | you're welcome fkoikoi, you're doing great. Three quality hours a day is excellent, I look forward to watching you progress even more :) | 15:12 |
| fkoikoi | +1 | 15:12 |
| shmohamud | ok, well have a great rest of your day. See you both tomorrow, same time :) | 15:13 |
| fkoikoi | alright | 15:14 |
| jelkner | Thanks, shmohamud! | 15:14 |
| shmohamud | you're welcome Jelkner :) | 15:14 |
| jelkner | See you Saturday at the diner. | 15:14 |
| jelkner | 7:30 am ;-) | 15:15 |
| shmohamud | sounds excellent. Yes sir :D | 15:15 |
| scooper | Jeff | 15:16 |
| scooper | That means no activities for saturday??? | 15:16 |
| jelkner | oh no, scooper | 15:16 |
| jelkner | shmohamud and i meet for "first face" *before* we join the meeting ;-) | 15:16 |
| scooper | I m seeing you saying to shmohamud see you Saturday at the dinner 7:30am | 15:17 |
| scooper | oo | 15:17 |
| jelkner | that's what we do | 15:17 |
| scooper | got you | 15:17 |
| scooper | hahahahah my mouth is watering here oooo | 15:17 |
| jelkner | LOL | 15:17 |
| shmohamud | hahahhaa | 15:17 |
| jelkner | it's the coffee i need most, shmohamud | 15:18 |
| jelkner | and scooper | 15:18 |
| scooper | I know how your face phase can be oo Jeff | 15:18 |
| shmohamud | hehehehehe | 15:18 |
| jelkner | i can't function without it | 15:18 |
| scooper | *first | 15:18 |
| jelkner | oh, is it "first phase"? | 15:18 |
| jelkner | i thought you were teaching me "first face" | 15:18 |
| scooper | sorry you got | 15:19 |
| scooper | I was wrong | 15:19 |
| jelkner | ok, students will be coming soon | 15:19 |
| scooper | I m sorry you got it | 15:19 |
| jelkner | scooper, tmickelson will be here tomorrow at the regular time | 15:19 |
| scooper | Ok Jeff, Thanks for everything | 15:20 |
| jelkner | thank you | 15:20 |
| jelkner | see you tomorrow... | 15:20 |
| fkoikoi | have a nice day jeff | 15:20 |
| jelkner | ACTION signs off for the day | 15:20 |
| jelkner | you too, fkoikoi | 15:20 |
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| shmohamud | have a nice rest of your day guys | 15:21 |
| fkoikoi | you too shmohamud | 15:21 |
| shmohamud | thank you :D | 15:21 |
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