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| jelkner | !agenda | 10:18 |
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| LittleWebster | This is the agenda for the next meeting: | 10:18 |
| LittleWebster | Sharing Screen and voice communication (tboimah & mulbah) (15min) (added by fkoikoi_) | 10:18 |
| LittleWebster | Updates from each group (7minutes) (added by fkoikoi_) | 10:18 |
| jelkner | Good morning LittleWebster! | 11:08 |
| jelkner | It's just you and me here. | 11:08 |
| jelkner | But I'm hoping you'll jot down some notes for me ;-) | 11:09 |
| jelkner | I modelled the beginning of the process using a git repo to complete Sheet2: Turning the Tables | 11:10 |
| jelkner | from the GASP Beginners Python Course (https://www.openbookproject.net/pybiblio/gasp/course) | 11:12 |
| jelkner | I created a git repo on Github for it here: https://github.com/jelknernvcc/csc221summer/tree/main/GASP/sheet2 | 11:12 |
| jelkner | The following commits demo the process of beginning Sheet 2: | 11:13 |
| jelkner | https://github.com/jelknernvcc/csc221summer/commit/6a710538bf81b9c43e772566daf54b1312aea60f | 11:13 |
| jelkner | https://github.com/jelknernvcc/csc221summer/commit/1d9b4b7955059040df7c71e0987d7569af7f06c4 | 11:13 |
| jelkner | https://github.com/jelknernvcc/csc221summer/commit/c0d0f978cad3a7cf3891ce9e28a3708bb699335e | 11:14 |
| jelkner | https://github.com/jelknernvcc/csc221summer/commit/904c46768e42cfe464b055e47faf8ca8f097f2d7 | 11:14 |
| jelkner | https://github.com/jelknernvcc/csc221summer/commit/752c76172fe497beba8d1d1cc0b24067161466a6 | 11:14 |
| jelkner | I hope the Python team of scooper, janet, and jkoleah can use this to help learn the development workflow | 11:16 |
| jelkner | ACTION done | 11:16 |
| mulbah | Good morning Jeff | 12:46 |
| jelkner | Good morning mulbah | 12:47 |
| mulbah | How are you doing and the family as well | 12:47 |
| jelkner | LOL, i don't mean to be rude, my friend, but i'm not going to answer that question. | 12:48 |
| jelkner | it's funny to think about irc culture | 12:48 |
| jelkner | but the little niceties we do in person don't work so well in online chat | 12:48 |
| jelkner | what happens each time is that everyone comes on and types what they would normally say as a standard greeting | 12:49 |
| jelkner | if i actually answer, i will have to answer 10 times! | 12:49 |
| jelkner | the same question | 12:49 |
| jelkner | so a simple "Good morning" or "Good day" will do | 12:49 |
| jelkner | since it doesn't require a proforma response ;-) | 12:50 |
| mulbah | Okay | 12:50 |
| jelkner | basically, it boils down to information theory | 12:50 |
| jelkner | what are we trying to communicate? | 12:50 |
| jelkner | something like, "i am here, my friend, and i care about you" | 12:51 |
| jelkner | that's lovely, but we need to find a more efficient way to do it in irc | 12:51 |
| jelkner | my fingers will get sore having to say "I'm doing well, and my family is fine too, how about you and yours?" 10 times | 12:51 |
| jelkner | are you in the MCSS office, mulbah? | 12:52 |
| jelkner | mulbah: are you in the MCSS office? | 12:54 |
| mulbah | No | 12:54 |
| mulbah | The traffic is too much | 12:55 |
| jelkner | So you are at home? | 12:55 |
| jelkner | mulbah: are you at home? | 12:55 |
| jelkner | Good morning, scooper! | 12:56 |
| scooper | Good morning Jeff and Mulbah | 12:56 |
| mulbah | because of the traffic | 12:57 |
| jelkner | you know, scooper, you can create a user on the machine you are on named scooper | 12:57 |
| jelkner | then when you start hexchat | 12:57 |
| jelkner | it will automatically use that as your username | 12:57 |
| jelkner | mulbah: you didn't answer my question | 12:57 |
| jelkner | where are you? | 12:57 |
| mulbah | I'm home | 12:58 |
| scooper | Mulbah is home | 12:58 |
| jelkner | great | 12:58 |
| jelkner | how do you get bandwidth? | 12:58 |
| scooper | and the other team will connect from home today.... still we resume JUly 31st | 12:58 |
| jelkner | i'm asking this because over time we need to a good business strategy for how we can work | 12:58 |
| mulbah | I am using my phone hotspot | 12:59 |
| jelkner | ok | 12:59 |
| LittleWebster | jelkner : mulbah : thehedgeh0g : scooper | 13:00 |
| LittleWebster | Tick Tock! | 13:00 |
| LittleWebster | It's 13:00 UTC o'clock and NOVA Web Development's meeting is starting. | 13:00 |
| LittleWebster | This is the agenda for today: | 13:00 |
| LittleWebster | Sharing Screen and voice communication (tboimah & mulbah) (15min) (added by fkoikoi_) | 13:00 |
| LittleWebster | Updates from each group (7minutes) (added by fkoikoi_) | 13:00 |
| LittleWebster | Have a nice day, Websters! | 13:00 |
| mulbah | to connect my computer to the internet | 13:00 |
| jelkner | scooper: not many people made it to the meeting today | 13:00 |
| jelkner | just 3 of us | 13:00 |
| jelkner | that's not good | 13:00 |
| scooper | Yesterday the MCSS came HR came out with a break for MCSS that all office I closed for the JUly 26 celebration | 13:00 |
| jelkner | i only have a short time | 13:00 |
| jelkner | got you | 13:00 |
| scooper | they will soon be there | 13:00 |
| jelkner | so maybe we should have cancelled | 13:00 |
| jelkner | i need to get to the post office | 13:00 |
| scooper | but Dcammue and thomas will not make it today.... | 13:01 |
| jelkner | and have to take the bus | 13:01 |
| jelkner | so i can't stay | 13:01 |
| jelkner | i have to send a certified letter to the IRS today | 13:01 |
| jelkner | so SECOSOL can complete its name change | 13:01 |
| jelkner | let's you and me chat about our ToDo list | 13:01 |
| scooper | What is IRS Jeff | 13:01 |
| scooper | ok | 13:01 |
| jelkner | the Internal Revenue Service | 13:01 |
| jelkner | the tax collecting agency for the federal government in the US | 13:02 |
| scooper | ooh I learn something new today. thanks | 13:02 |
| jelkner | scooper, if we are going to succeed, both you and i will need to learn a lot about how businesses legally operate in both of our countries | 13:02 |
| jelkner | ok, scooper task one | 13:03 |
| mulbah | are we waiting for the other to join for the meeting to start | 13:03 |
| jelkner | no, mulbah | 13:03 |
| jelkner | we can't wait | 13:03 |
| jelkner | folks get here on time | 13:03 |
| mulbah | okay | 13:03 |
| jelkner | or they miss things | 13:03 |
| jelkner | they can look in the log | 13:03 |
| jelkner | i won't make it to the post office if we wait | 13:04 |
| jelkner | scooper, i am only going to send $650 this month | 13:04 |
| jelkner | since i need to use $150 to appy to the Kamal Foundation | 13:04 |
| jelkner | to begin the process of building the school | 13:04 |
| scooper | ok | 13:05 |
| jelkner | the Summer PRIME interns have been amazing, btw. | 13:05 |
| jelkner | They are helping us get so much done! | 13:05 |
| jelkner | so talk to the team about that when you see them | 13:05 |
| fkoikoi | Good morning Jeff | 13:05 |
| jelkner | next, i did a sample development process for the programming team | 13:06 |
| mulbah | we understand Jeff | 13:06 |
| jelkner | i posted about it here in irc earlier this morning | 13:06 |
| mulbah | I'm seeing in the agenda that the sysadmin team will be working on the screen sharing for the other to use | 13:06 |
| jelkner | https://irclogs.novawebdevelopment.org/%23novawebdev/2023-07-22.log.html | 13:06 |
| jelkner | mulbah: i bet we can't do that using your phone | 13:06 |
| jelkner | that's why i asked | 13:07 |
| jelkner | next week, perhaps | 13:07 |
| jelkner | i can't stay | 13:07 |
| jelkner | scooper: take a look at that link | 13:07 |
| jelkner | please confirm that you see what i posted | 13:07 |
| scooper | +1 | 13:09 |
| jelkner | great | 13:10 |
| scooper | this show that is how you want each work to be done right???? | 13:10 |
| jelkner | can you meet with the programming team and go through what i did step-by-step | 13:10 |
| jelkner | YES! | 13:10 |
| jelkner | i modelled the beginning of the process of completing Sheet 2 up to challenge 4 | 13:10 |
| jelkner | i can discuss any questions you have about it after you study it | 13:11 |
| jelkner | ok, next item | 13:11 |
| jelkner | since i have to leave soon to make it to the post office | 13:11 |
| jelkner | scooper: what are you doing to figure out how to start a worker cooperative in Liberia? | 13:11 |
| jelkner | it is time to start doing that | 13:11 |
| jelkner | now we have a name | 13:12 |
| scooper | I talked with a lawyer already on phone | 13:12 |
| jelkner | but we need to turn it into a legal business | 13:12 |
| jelkner | great | 13:12 |
| jelkner | please keep me informed about that | 13:12 |
| scooper | and he ask me to meet with him physically but in liberia you don't meet with lawyer without having money | 13:12 |
| jelkner | we will need to budget any legal costs | 13:12 |
| scooper | so I m waiting when the month end | 13:12 |
| jelkner | yes, i understand | 13:13 |
| jelkner | so, a few things | 13:13 |
| scooper | I will be able to reach him with so money from my own allowance | 13:13 |
| jelkner | how do we get a "good layer"? | 13:13 |
| jelkner | someone who we can trust | 13:13 |
| jelkner | i know we will have to pay | 13:13 |
| jelkner | but we want to build a relationship with someone we can trust over the long term | 13:14 |
| scooper | first I need to meet with him | 13:14 |
| scooper | because I have already brief him about what we are about to start.... | 13:14 |
| scooper | We need a lawyer that will guard us through the laws of liberia that will protect Jettro Web Dev. | 13:15 |
| jelkner | i have another task for you, scooper | 13:15 |
| jelkner | contact this organization | 13:15 |
| jelkner | https://www.ica.coop/en | 13:15 |
| scooper | after interns have acquired these skill to stay and work fully | 13:15 |
| jelkner | and find out if Liberia has a national organization that is a member | 13:15 |
| jelkner | which interns are you talking about, and which skills? | 13:16 |
| jelkner | i don't understand | 13:16 |
| scooper | everyone here is an interns including me... and excluding you..... | 13:17 |
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| jelkner | ok | 13:18 |
| scooper | I you done Jeff??? | 13:20 |
| scooper | are you done Jeff | 13:20 |
| jelkner | i'm on the phone with the bank scooper | 13:20 |
| scooper | ok | 13:20 |
| mulbah | Jeff | 13:21 |
| jelkner | last thing scooper | 13:22 |
| jelkner | i will only be meeting this week on tuesday and thursday | 13:22 |
| scooper | ok Jeff | 13:22 |
| jelkner | fkoikoi: why don't you handle the last task | 13:22 |
| jelkner | ? | 13:22 |
| scooper | same time right | 13:23 |
| jelkner | 7 am my time | 13:23 |
| jelkner | 11 am your time | 13:23 |
| scooper | I see why I usually missed you | 13:23 |
| jelkner | fkoikoi: please investigate https://www.ica.coop/en | 13:23 |
| scooper | I told before that you will meeting 10am liberia time | 13:23 |
| mulbah | Jeff do you want the sysadmin to use mumble for the voice communication and tmate for the screen sharing? | 13:23 |
| scooper | I was told before that you will meet us 10 am liberia time | 13:24 |
| jelkner | it's 4 hours different | 13:24 |
| jelkner | so 7 am here is 11 am there | 13:24 |
| jelkner | that's the time i have been joining | 13:24 |
| jelkner | anyway, fkoikoi, please look into ICA | 13:25 |
| jelkner | and find out if Liberia has a national affiliate | 13:25 |
| jelkner | if it doesn't, contact the international organization and find out how a local Liberian cooperative can join with them | 13:25 |
| jelkner | i'll ask our PRIME intern to look into it too | 13:26 |
| jelkner | but she will only be with us for 2 more weeks | 13:26 |
| jelkner | so after she leaves | 13:26 |
| jelkner | we will need to carry on without her | 13:26 |
| jelkner | ok, i need to run to the bank | 13:26 |
| jelkner | i mean post office | 13:27 |
| jelkner | so scooper, i'll see you at 11 am your time on tuesday | 13:27 |
| jelkner | is the MCSS office open then? | 13:27 |
| jelkner | or not? | 13:27 |
| scooper | office is closed and will opened on July 31 | 13:28 |
| scooper | but we will be online | 13:28 |
| scooper | I can assured you | 13:28 |
| jelkner | let's take a holiday, my friend | 13:28 |
| jelkner | it is very hard for people to get online | 13:28 |
| jelkner | that's why so many of us are missing today | 13:28 |
| scooper | let we learn fully than one day we can take that holiday Jeff | 13:29 |
| jelkner | i don't think it is a good idea to force | 13:29 |
| jelkner | it | 13:29 |
| scooper | July 26 is ok for us to take a break Jeff | 13:29 |
| jelkner | scooper: while i appreciate your drive | 13:29 |
| jelkner | which i share with you, my friend, believe me! | 13:29 |
| jelkner | let's not set ourselves up for failure | 13:29 |
| scooper | the team have already agreed with me here Jeff | 13:29 |
| jelkner | yes, but they really can't do it | 13:29 |
| jelkner | they don't have the connectivity | 13:30 |
| jelkner | to make it work | 13:30 |
| jelkner | they need the lab | 13:30 |
| jelkner | if people connect from their phones like mulbah is doing now | 13:30 |
| jelkner | they won't have the bandwidth they need to get things done | 13:30 |
| jelkner | and it leads to frustration | 13:30 |
| jelkner | so | 13:30 |
| jelkner | the best technical solution to that problem is.... | 13:31 |
| jelkner | email ! | 13:31 |
| jelkner | we should work assynchronously | 13:31 |
| jelkner | when folks can get something done | 13:31 |
| scooper | some time when time when they abort all of the bandwidth I normally purhcase, we use my phone for emergency connection Jeff | 13:31 |
| jelkner | they can send an email | 13:31 |
| jelkner | scooper, like i said | 13:31 |
| jelkner | i really appreciate your drive | 13:31 |
| jelkner | but i am under a lot of stress here to get things done | 13:32 |
| scooper | ok | 13:32 |
| scooper | got you Jeff | 13:32 |
| jelkner | and i get more stressed when we try to meet and can't because of technical challenges | 13:32 |
| jelkner | i would rather not do it | 13:32 |
| jelkner | i can get more done for us by focusing on working with the PRIMES while we have them | 13:33 |
| jelkner | and then connecting with you all on July 31st | 13:33 |
| jelkner | when you're back | 13:33 |
| jelkner | but let's think ahead about the future | 13:33 |
| jelkner | imagine it's 2 years from now | 13:33 |
| jelkner | Jetro Web Development has 10 to 15 full time work owners | 13:34 |
| jelkner | and is taking in a lot of business | 13:34 |
| jelkner | we will need then to find a reliable place to work | 13:34 |
| jelkner | anytime | 13:34 |
| scooper | Secondly the supe will be back from South Korean August 1st..... | 13:34 |
| scooper | got you Jeff | 13:35 |
| scooper | then we can continue where we stop | 13:35 |
| jelkner | i'm hoping Jetro Web Development can somehow sign a public / private partnership agreement with MCSS | 13:35 |
| jelkner | to give us access to the new, small, solar powered school we are going to build! | 13:35 |
| jelkner | that would be wonderful | 13:36 |
| jelkner | that's my current dream ;-) | 13:36 |
| scooper | The supe said that will not be a problem | 13:36 |
| jelkner | ok | 13:36 |
| scooper | he understand your vision Jeff | 13:36 |
| jelkner | i have to go send the certified letter to the IRS before the post office closes | 13:36 |
| scooper | ok safe journey | 13:36 |
| jelkner | yes, scooper, i actually got it in part from him | 13:37 |
| jelkner | so i know he understands | 13:37 |
| jelkner | we are on the same page | 13:37 |
| scooper | I m happy to be here | 13:37 |
| jelkner | me too! | 13:37 |
| scooper | and it's an honor working with you Jeff | 13:37 |
| jelkner | ok, my dear friend, let's plan on a Monrovian holiday until July 31st | 13:37 |
| scooper | ok Jeff | 13:38 |
| scooper | ACTION signing out | 13:38 |
| jelkner | I will be online briefly that day (since it's a Monday and I need to walk to the college) | 13:38 |
| jelkner | ACTION signing out | 13:38 |
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| scooper | mulbah and Fkokoi | 13:38 |
| mulbah | yeah | 13:39 |
| scooper | Are you guys still there | 13:39 |
| mulbah | I'm here | 13:39 |
| scooper | I think you guys follow the conversation right | 13:39 |
| fkoikoi | +1 | 13:39 |
| mulbah | +1 | 13:39 |
| scooper | that mean you are not mandatory to come online | 13:39 |
| scooper | but what become of you and thomas meeting with cole | 13:40 |
| scooper | mulbah | 13:40 |
| mulbah | what do you mean by the scooper | 13:42 |
| scooper | I mean Jeff is saying that since MCSS is closed for the holiday celebration in liberia, you guys shouldn't inconvenient yourself by using you phone like you are doing to get online | 13:43 |
| scooper | that we should all return to active activities by July 31st | 13:44 |
| scooper | since that is the day MCSS office will resume active work..... | 13:44 |
| scooper | do you understand my respond now | 13:45 |
| mulbah | yeah | 13:45 |
| mulbah | but I don't mine using my phone to get online | 13:45 |
| mulbah | for class | 13:46 |
| scooper | Ok I love that | 13:46 |
| scooper | that show how committed you are in many sacrificies for us all to succeed | 13:47 |
| scooper | *making | 13:47 |
| mulbah | thanks Mr. Cooper | 13:47 |
| mulbah | Mr. Cooper | 13:48 |
| scooper | yes | 13:49 |
| mulbah | Is the sysadmin team going to setup the screen sharing and vice communication | 13:50 |
| mulbah | on everyone computer | 13:50 |
| mulbah | because I saw it on the agenda | 13:50 |
| mulbah | ACTION is asking | 13:54 |
| fkoikoi | yes | 13:57 |
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