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| AntonioAbela | Hello | 20:45 |
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| jelkner | Hello AntonioAbela! | 20:46 |
| jelkner | Kei, Toby, and Cyrus are all hear, but they are figuring out how to use hexchat | 20:46 |
| AntonioAbela | Okay | 20:47 |
| kei | l | 20:48 |
| jelkner | AntonioAbela, let's talk | 20:48 |
| jelkner | the most important agenda item for this evening is deciding on the time and place of our weekly meeting | 20:49 |
| jelkner | i propose the place be here | 20:49 |
| jelkner | but if others disagree, we can discuss it | 20:49 |
| AntonioAbela | Is there a reason to do it here vs zulip? | 20:50 |
| jelkner | yes, there are several reasons | 20:50 |
| jelkner | and i'll state them for the record | 20:50 |
| jelkner | 1. We have a bot, LittleWebster, that automatically creates an archive of everything typed here | 20:50 |
| jelkner | https://irclogs.novawebdevelopment.org/ | 20:51 |
| jelkner | while are free version of Zulip *does not* archive | 20:51 |
| jelkner | after a certain time, messages will disappear | 20:52 |
| AntonioAbela | Ahh | 20:52 |
| Guest519 | a | 20:52 |
| jelkner | 2. for simplicity, this one place to meet is easier | 20:52 |
| jelkner | it is a single channel that is hosted by where we can always find it | 20:52 |
| jelkner | we don't need to ask "where?" | 20:53 |
| jelkner | since it is already in the same place | 20:53 |
| jelkner | it is *very* light weight, and can be accessed through a web browser | 20:53 |
| jelkner | not needed password either | 20:53 |
| jelkner | just point your browser and join | 20:53 |
| jelkner | using a better client like hexchat is better | 20:54 |
| jelkner | and regular users will want to reserve their nick | 20:54 |
| AntonioAbela | Those are good reasons, I have no problem with using IRC for our meetings | 20:54 |
| jelkner | but it isn't required to do that | 20:54 |
| jelkner | 3. it works great for our friends in Liberia, who are already using it | 20:54 |
| jelkner | so as we collaborate more and more with them, we'll be in the same place | 20:55 |
| jelkner | We used this in the SchoolTool project for years | 20:55 |
| jelkner | it worked great | 20:55 |
| jelkner | Stefan objected, largely for atheistic reasons | 20:56 |
| jelkner | he hated the way it looks ;-) | 20:56 |
| jelkner | but he is moving on | 20:56 |
| jelkner | LOL | 20:56 |
| AntonioAbela | I will say I am not a fan of the appearance | 20:56 |
| AntonioAbela | but I can manage | 20:56 |
| AntonioAbela | I am sure there is a client that will make it look pretty | 20:57 |
| jelkner | s/aesthetic/atheistic | 20:57 |
| jelkner | we'll leave that up to you to find, AntonioAbela | 20:57 |
| jelkner | So let's talk about the time | 20:58 |
| jelkner | 4:30 is too early | 20:58 |
| jelkner | AntonioAbela, what time between 5 and 7 would be best for you? | 20:58 |
| AntonioAbela | How long would we like to meet? | 20:58 |
| jelkner | You will have to decide that among yourselves | 20:59 |
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| jelkner | but perhaps we should talk about the goals of the weekly meeting | 20:59 |
| AntonioAbela | I think 5 is a good time | 20:59 |
| jelkner | great | 20:59 |
| jelkner | klarios, does that work for you? | 21:00 |
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| klarios | +1 Yeah 5 PM works well with me | 21:01 |
| klarios | +1 | 21:01 |
| jelkner | AntonioAbela, tmickelson, klarios, cbahrambegi this is *your* business | 21:02 |
| jelkner | i'm just here to help you | 21:02 |
| AntonioAbela | I guess we should discuss the various projects we have going on right now and who is doing what | 21:02 |
| AntonioAbela | I am currently still working on secosol and alliance for housing solutions | 21:02 |
| AntonioAbela | Whats everyone else up to? | 21:04 |
| klarios | yeah totally agree | 21:06 |
| cbahrambegi | Yeah | 21:06 |
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| klarios | I was looking into business tracker and a invoice was made for housing solucions, when do you want to bill them, like an official date so that we can have a good tracking system/ | 21:07 |
| klarios | ? | 21:07 |
| cbahrambegi | I've been working on the aea website and getting the hang of the libreorganize functions. | 21:07 |
| AntonioAbela | Oh, I think for now ill handle the alliance for housing solutions bills just because Luke and I have been sending it to them directly in the past. | 21:07 |
| AntonioAbela | I was planning on emailing it to them today | 21:08 |
| cbahrambegi | So for the weekly meeting time can we do 5:15? | 21:09 |
| AntonioAbela | Sure | 21:09 |
| AntonioAbela | klarios does it work for you? | 21:09 |
| klarios | Yeah that sounds good, I will just log the time for today | 21:09 |
| AntonioAbela | ok | 21:09 |
| klarios | +1 | 21:09 |
| AntonioAbela | So current projects are AEA, Secosol, Alliance for Housing Solutions? | 21:12 |
| AntonioAbela | WHat about mexico solidarity project, anybody working on that at the moment? | 21:12 |
| AntonioAbela | jelkner are there any projects I'm missing? | 21:14 |
| sitarabuta | jelkner, you give op yourself using /mode #novawebdev +o jelkner | 21:15 |
| jelkner | sitarabuta, tmickelson and AntonioAbela should be channel opps too | 21:15 |
| sitarabuta | s/give// | 21:15 |
| jelkner | thanks, sitarabuta | 21:15 |
| sitarabuta | so, jelkner, there are actually 2 steps in become operators | 21:16 |
| jelkner | AntonioAbela, Mexico Solidarity Project, Claudia Jones School | 21:16 |
| sitarabuta | firstly, you need to register with OFTC as an operator, and second, is elevating to op on a channel when you join | 21:16 |
| AntonioAbela | Where can I find the infor for what needs to be updated on those sites? | 21:16 |
| jelkner | And the big one, ARTraffic | 21:16 |
| sitarabuta | usually, doing the first automatically does the second, but your account is broken. | 21:16 |
| jelkner | opps, i can't promote myself | 21:17 |
| jelkner | i will need to contact them | 21:18 |
| jelkner | AntonioAbela, ARTraffic is the one that we bill at professional rates | 21:18 |
| AntonioAbela | When it comes to ARTraffic, sitarabuta do you have any recommendations for how I should learn it? I don't really know how to start with it | 21:18 |
| sitarabuta | ok jelkner | 21:18 |
| sitarabuta | AntonioAbela, it might be a bit tough to start | 21:18 |
| sitarabuta | it's a stiff learning curve | 21:19 |
| jelkner | We have one year for you to learn from sitarabuta and abuchholz how to work on that project | 21:19 |
| sitarabuta | I would say that a good start would be to download the repo | 21:19 |
| sitarabuta | and look through it | 21:19 |
| AntonioAbela | I did that and started to look through it, but had some issues getting it setup | 21:19 |
| sitarabuta | You'll need to have a good understanding of inheritance and the layout of Django projects to start | 21:19 |
| sitarabuta | AntonioAbela, yeah, running it might be tough | 21:19 |
| sitarabuta | We have the project connected to 2 databases. | 21:19 |
| sitarabuta | We have a dump from ARTraffic that is running on a mysql/mariadb server locally as well | 21:20 |
| sitarabuta | besides the sqlite/postgresql from django | 21:20 |
| sitarabuta | that dump holds all their data, that sqlite holds OUR data (generated within django such as custom reports) | 21:20 |
| AntonioAbela | I think the main thing is to learn a project I feel like I need something to work towards. With libreorganize it was making changes to existing websites | 21:20 |
| jelkner | AntonioAbela, you don't need to worry about Mexico Solidarity Project or Claudia Jones School | 21:20 |
| sitarabuta | AntonioAbela I agree | 21:21 |
| sitarabuta | I have to think of something | 21:21 |
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| jelkner | they should be handled by your junior developers as soon as they are ready | 21:21 |
| sitarabuta | I'd say that running it would be a good start. I can help you out one day | 21:21 |
| sitarabuta | We don't have any docs unforutunately | 21:21 |
| jelkner | so for you, as our soon to be lead developer | 21:21 |
| jelkner | the core clients are AEA, SECOSOL, and ARTraffic | 21:22 |
| AntonioAbela | Ok | 21:22 |
| jelkner | and Alliance for Housing Solutions | 21:22 |
| sitarabuta | It's pretty standard Django stuff, besides the second DB. if you can get a MariaDB server running locally, I'll help you out with the dump and django config | 21:22 |
| jelkner | so it's too much for you | 21:22 |
| jelkner | we need to figure that out | 21:22 |
| AntonioAbela | Luke and I should be done with Alliance for Housing Solutions soon which will be a relief | 21:22 |
| jelkner | Yes! | 21:22 |
| AntonioAbela | We are waiting on some images from them but after that they are going to get their board to review the site and hopefully launch it after that | 21:23 |
| AntonioAbela | sitarabuta I | 21:23 |
| AntonioAbela | oops | 21:23 |
| jelkner | Excellent, AntonioAbela | 21:23 |
| jelkner | as i was just saying to klarios, we need to update our own site too | 21:24 |
| AntonioAbela | sitarabuta I'll see what I can do about trying to run a mariadb server running locally | 21:24 |
| sitarabuta | nice AntonioAbela | 21:24 |
| AntonioAbela | Kind of busy right now will school starting up | 21:24 |
| klarios | Hey AntonioAbela was there tracked billable hours for the MD Legislative latino caucus work done on their site? | 21:25 |
| jelkner | No, klarios, Zonny did that site | 21:26 |
| jelkner | who left us a while back | 21:26 |
| jelkner | so we need to find someone to take that over | 21:26 |
| jelkner | again, we need to grow the team | 21:26 |
| jelkner | since that is an important site for our portfolio | 21:27 |
| AntonioAbela | Is there anything else thats super important, because I need to go to a meeting with my mentor soon | 21:28 |
| jelkner | no AntonioAbela | 21:30 |
| jelkner | see you next thursday at 5:15 pm | 21:30 |
| jelkner | sitarabuta, said he can come here at that time | 21:30 |
| AntonioAbela | Sounds good | 21:30 |
| jelkner | let's keep these meetings short | 21:30 |
| sitarabuta | sounds good | 21:30 |
| AntonioAbela | See you next week! | 21:30 |
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| sitarabuta | see you AntonioAbela | 21:30 |
| jelkner | sitarabuta, one question for you | 21:31 |
| jelkner | before you go | 21:31 |
| sitarabuta | sure | 21:31 |
| jelkner | how hard would it be to make LittleWebster support two weekly meetings? | 21:31 |
| sitarabuta | if you want just 1 agenda | 21:31 |
| jelkner | so that we can use it for the agenda | 21:31 |
| sitarabuta | not too bad | 21:31 |
| sitarabuta | just set up another cron job | 21:31 |
| sitarabuta | if you want different agenda | 21:31 |
| jelkner | no, two agendas | 21:31 |
| sitarabuta | i mean, not too hard, it just needs some more code | 21:32 |
| sitarabuta | it's easy to do it wrong | 21:32 |
| sitarabuta | a bit harder to do it right | 21:32 |
| sitarabuta | but an intern could do it | 21:32 |
| sitarabuta | so not impossible | 21:32 |
| jelkner | great | 21:32 |
| jelkner | that will be a good learning opportunity | 21:32 |
| sitarabuta | yep | 21:32 |
| jelkner | i'll pitch it and see who bites | 21:32 |
| sitarabuta | it's the type of project that can be improved constantly | 21:32 |
| sitarabuta | jelkner ;-) | 21:32 |
| klarios | Hey @sitarabuta I was looking in business tracker and I saw there was an invoice for AR Traffic, do you want to add a date so and discuss the billing intervals? | 21:33 |
| sitarabuta | hi klarios, it is just for the work I've done but I haven't sent it yet | 21:33 |
| sitarabuta | I want to get confirmation from them that everything is right | 21:34 |
| sitarabuta | we can send it after | 21:34 |
| sitarabuta | It's just a draft | 21:34 |
| sitarabuta | And there is no interval, it's a one time thing for work they wanted to be done | 21:34 |
| klarios | got you, thank you for the update | 21:36 |
| jelkner | sitarabuta, i've been talking with klarios about her weekly hours | 21:36 |
| sitarabuta | klarios no prob | 21:36 |
| jelkner | for this to work, she needed to reduce her hours at her other job | 21:36 |
| jelkner | so we agreed those hours need to be compensated | 21:36 |
| jelkner | i am hoping that most of that can come from her billing our customers | 21:37 |
| jelkner | but i'll have to cover the difference until it does | 21:37 |
| sitarabuta | sure jelkner | 21:37 |
| jelkner | so i'm *highly* motivated to get that to happen! ;-) | 21:37 |
| jelkner | anyway, billing ARTraffic will help | 21:38 |
| jelkner | since they pay real money | 21:38 |
| jelkner | you need to coordinate with klarios anyway, since she will be sending you your payment | 21:38 |
| jelkner | how will we do that? | 21:38 |
| jelkner | obviously, since this is a publicly logged conversation, i'm only looking for a generic answer | 21:39 |
| jelkner | sitarabuta, how does klarios get you paid? | 21:39 |
| sitarabuta | let me think | 21:39 |
| jelkner | you will need to invoice nova web development | 21:40 |
| sitarabuta | how would i do that | 21:40 |
| sitarabuta | you know my situation lol ;-) | 21:41 |
| jelkner | ok, let's talk on the phone later | 21:41 |
| sitarabuta | yep | 21:41 |
| sitarabuta | would be better for now | 21:41 |
| jelkner | +1 | 21:41 |
| jelkner | sitarabuta, i'll call you during the day tomorrow | 21:46 |
| sitarabuta | sure jelkner | 21:46 |
| jelkner | it's late there, i'll let you go | 21:46 |
| jelkner | ok, if no one else has anything, i'm going to sign off | 21:47 |
| sitarabuta | ok jelkner we'll talk | 21:48 |
| jelkner | thanks, sitarabuta! | 21:48 |
| sitarabuta | no problem | 21:48 |
| jelkner | ACTION signs off | 21:48 |
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