IRC log of #novawebdev for Thursday, 2025-05-01

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daniel___Hi guys10:50
daniel___mulbah: 10:50
thomasboimahhi daniel___ 10:50
thomasboimahplease join the jetrowebdev channel10:50
daniel___Were you able to get what I was saying yesterday?10:51
daniel___Good morning jelkner 10:51
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klarioshi all!19:02
klarios!listmeetings19:02
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klarios!createmeeting Decidim_Meeting19:02
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thomasboimahHI klarios 19:02
klarioshi thomasboimah !19:02
klariosgreat work delivering today!19:03
klariosI was telling jeff we could get you to use business tracker for invoices in the future19:03
klariosI would love to get jetro members a tour of business tracker19:04
klariosthomasboimah: do you know if freena is coming?19:04
thomasboimahsure freena will be here19:05
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jelknerthomasboimah, you made this one of the happiest May 1st holidays I can remember!19:06
anthony_phello all19:06
thomasboimahLoL jelkner 19:07
klarioshi tony!19:07
jelknerhi Tony!19:07
thomasboimahThanks for the trust jelkner 19:07
johan_fhello anthony_p19:07
jkollieHi everyone19:07
jelknerthomasboimah, check out https://share.mayfirst.org/s/r45p6NmEmi7e7qk19:08
jelknera due date of "whenever jelkner wants" won't do19:08
jelkneryou need to keep him accountable! ;-)19:08
thomasboimahOkay19:09
thomasboimahCopy that19:09
jelknerto save costs, i'll add each invoice to this spreadsheet19:09
jelknerand then send payment along with the monthly wire transfer19:09
jelknerwire transfers cost us $5019:09
jelknerso we may want to try to make them every two months, but not yet19:09
jelknerwe can't plan that far ahead yet19:10
jelknerin August Mr. Zawolo can bring the payment with him19:10
jelknerthomasboimah, did you see the next two jobs?19:10
thomasboimahI was your email19:10
jelkner?19:11
thomasboimahI will respond after this meeting19:11
jelknernp19:11
jelknerif you have questions, just let me know19:11
thomasboimahNO, I was just want tell you that, I would be glad to help get NOVA Web’s business affairs in order.19:12
thomasboimah*wanted19:12
jelknersuper, thomasboimah 19:12
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jelknerthe two tasks are connected19:12
jelknersince the first one is migrating the .org email to May First, and setting up DNS so that it forwards to .coop19:13
jelkneronce you get that done, we can take down the mail server and reduce the monthly bill from Linode19:13
thomasboimahOKay, Now i get it19:14
jelknerjust think, all the money we save from Linode can be used to hire Jetro ;-)19:14
thomasboimahI and my team will get on that(mulbah and Gabriel)19:14
jelknerexcellent19:15
klariosgreat! again thomasboimah if you need guidance with that you can reach out to me 19:18
thomasboimahOkay klarios thanks.19:18
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freenaGreetings jelkner, anthony_p, thomasboimah, jkollie, johan_f and gabriel_jetro 19:39
thomasboimahHi freena 19:40
jkolliegreetings freena19:40
freenathomasboimah: 19:41
thomasboimahfreena, 19:42
johan_fhello freena19:43
freenaHow are you johan_f 19:45
johan_fI'm doing well19:45
klarios_hi all!19:46
freenaHi klarios_ 19:46
klarios_hi freena !19:46
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klarios_I sent you a message on decidim freena 19:47
freenaLet me check klarios_ 19:48
klarios_the contents of it is: figuring out an efficient way to make costumer reports and updates and how often business and developers should be filling them out19:49
klarios_thomasboimah: gabriel_jetro I would love to know your opinion on thos19:49
klarios_this*19:49
klarios_as a business administrator I do so many things weekly and I progressively update them every week but for a developer the work flow is different19:49
freenaYou mean your comment on my result right??19:50
freenaKlarios 19:50
freenaklarios_: 19:50
klarios_no freena check your notifications 19:50
freenaOkay19:51
klarios_as developers you most likely have to do updates and reports based on a Job to job basis. For example you can give us a half progress or full process19:52
freenaYou mean the invite klarios_ ??19:55
klarios_both an invite and a message19:55
freenaYeah, I can see it now 19:55
thomasboimahI agree, Klarios. Weekly updates work well for business, but for developers, biweekly or milestone-based updates make more sense since progress can vary.19:57
thomasboimahWhat’s your take, Gabriel?19:58
klarios_that's right19:58
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klarios_thats good news! biweekly or milestone based is something we can set up 20:01
klarios_since the github repo for this project is public we can just track your progress there but it would still be nice to get user stories from devs as reports for costumers20:02
jelkner!agenda20:04
WebsterssAgenda for meeting 'NovaWebMeeting':20:04
Websterssupdates from Jetro web on Django app (developing a workflow) (added by: klarios)20:04
Websterssnamecheap charges on costumers  (added by: klarios)20:04
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klarios_hey thomasboimah IRC isnt allowing me to create meetings 20:06
klarios_how do I give myself permissions to do that? 20:06
R_R_aziHhiiiiiiiiii20:07
thomasboimahplease try to do that again klarios_ let me see the error message20:07
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Websterssnamecheap charges on costumers  (added by: klarios)20:08
WebsterssChanging our irclog host from .org to .coop (added by: johan_f)20:08
gabriel_jetroWas you the one who created the meeting klarios_ ?20:08
thomasboimah!listmeetings20:08
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gabriel_jetroUse "!deactivate" to deactivate meeting 20:09
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thomasboimahdeactivate NOvaWebMeeting before creating meeting klarios_ 20:09
klarios_ooooh i see20:09
klarios_thank you thomasboimah !20:10
klarios_i got confused20:10
thomasboimahSure20:10
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thomasboimahjohan_f, There is a meeting already being activated by klarios_ you will have to deactivate it be creating new meeting20:13
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thomasboimah*before20:13
johan_fthomasboimah, I know I just wanted to confirm that it was the case20:14
thomasboimahOkay, my bad20:14
gabriel_jetroYou can add agenda to the meeting that's activated 20:14
johan_fthomasboimah, no thank you for clarifying20:17
thomasboimahokay, Man20:17
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klarios_!add biweekly & milestone based updates and reports20:25
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klarios_!add Vasen Wants a new website!20:26
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johan_f!add Updated Accountability Blog20:26
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jelkner!agenda20:29
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WebsterssAgenda for meeting 'NovaWebDev':20:30
WebsterssUpdated Accountability Blog (added by: johan_f)20:30
WebsterssOld DNOVA decidim server (added by: klarios_)20:30
WebsterssVOCA Updates? (added by: johan_f)20:30
Webstersschange db password for libre organize branches (added by: klarios_)20:30
klarios_Hello all thank you for being here!20:30
jelknerHappy International Workers Day!20:31
klarios_lets get started. The first Item of today's meeting is managing NWD affairs20:31
klarios_by that we mean managing the costs of our servers and the namecheap as well20:32
jelknercan i take this one klarios_ ?20:32
klarios_yes jelkner 20:32
jelknerin brief, we need to develop our dev team to reach a level where it can solve problems as they arise and handle customer work20:32
jelknerthomasboimah, is taking the lead on working with gabriel_jetro and mulbah to develop that team20:33
jelknerthey have their first big victory today20:33
jelknerfixing our .coop DNS issues20:33
jelknercongrats to them and more to come next week20:33
jelknerACTION done20:33
klarios_Moving on to the next item will be the project management for developers20:34
klarios_thomasboimah: and gabriel_jetro we decided on byweekly and project based updates20:35
klarios_reports should be a on-completion item 20:35
klarios_while updates should be byweekly20:35
thomasboimahOkay20:35
klarios_to add on to that we need the dev team to add the DJANGO app results into decidim 20:36
klarios_in the Nova Web Assembly this time though 20:36
klarios_since its Nova web work20:36
klarios_thank you thomasboimah! me and freena are going to be providing comments for these results as well20:37
gabriel_jetroWe'll do that, I try updating the reservation-form and I'm facing debugging right now, I'll push and update that on decidim soon.20:37
klarios_now with that established, the updates for the DJANGO apps should be entered next week20:37
klarios_great gabriel_jetro ! 20:37
thomasboimahsure20:37
gabriel_jetroSure 20:38
jelknerpycon is in two weeks20:38
jelknerso we need to get as much as we can by then20:38
klarios_I also remind you that I have given you all feedback on the results for the first week20:38
klarios_the next item is crucial!20:38
klarios_VASEN wants a new website20:38
klarios_Now I will meet with Matt Slaats (representative of VASEN) to talk about what he would like to see and what VASEN needs as a organization/coalition20:39
jelknerFYI, Matt Slaats works for the City of Richmond, state capitol of Virginia20:40
klarios_with this being said. VASEN would be an essential paying costumer. It is truly more serious than what you are working on right now20:40
jelknerand Richmond is planning a Decidim deployment over the next 2 years.20:40
jelknerthese are the kinds of connections and experiences we need20:41
klarios_I think we should explore how decidim can best serve VASEN 20:41
klarios_but we should also consider the fact we don't have decidim functioning at 100% capacity20:41
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klarios_A new instance means little to no faiilure especially for something as big as VASEN (virginia solidarity economy network)20:42
klarios_I will let you all know all about it after meeting with matt20:43
klarios_next item in the agenda is: Updated accountability blog20:43
klarios_which is just an update20:43
klarios_please visit the nova web blog and read up on it if you are having trouble or just want to know more about the component20:43
johan_fhttps://decidim.novawebdevelopment.org/assemblies/novaweborg/f/18/posts/1720:44
klarios_next item is a question for anthony_p 20:44
klarios_I am wondering if the old dnova decidim server is still rinning?20:44
klarios_running*20:44
klarios_I checked the linode and I think we have 4-5 decidim instances running20:45
johan_fI'm also available on Monday and Wednesday at 3:00-3:30 PM EST to answer questions about decidim. If anyone at jetro wants help with updating their results or something else20:45
klarios_I wanted to know if the old dnova was active or not? and if it is we need to deactivate it asap20:45
klarios_ill message you about that20:46
amarOn linode?20:46
klarios_yep20:46
anthony_pthe current dnova server is the old dnova server20:47
anthony_pi just reconfigured it to run at the new address20:47
klarios_+1 that good anthony_p 20:47
klarios_we got the bill for this month 20:48
klarios_and we do have a bunch of instances and also backups20:48
klarios_theyre small but they add up20:48
anthony_pthe linode is the same machine, hasn't changed20:48
jelkneri've asked thomasboimah and company to work toward the task of helping us reduce that cost20:48
klarios_good that we didnt have to get a new one20:48
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thomasboimahyes20:49
klarios_with that comes redirecting the .org which thomasboimah has already taken charge of20:49
klarios_!agenda20:49
WebsterssAgenda for meeting 'NovaWebDev':20:49
WebsterssUpdated Accountability Blog (added by: johan_f)20:49
WebsterssOld DNOVA decidim server (added by: klarios_)20:49
WebsterssVOCA Updates? (added by: johan_f)20:49
Webstersschange db password for libre organize branches (added by: klarios_)20:49
klarios_yep next item is the VOCA meeting 20:50
klarios_any updates with them?20:50
klarios_or OCTREE20:50
klarios_anthony_p: I know you reached out, did they get back?20:50
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klarios_im going to keep going to let others add updates as well 20:53
klarios_so the last thing is changing our database and SMPT passwords for the branches in NWD20:53
klarios_we had repo that was public for a couple of hours so now i've got to change the passwords20:54
klarios_hopefully nothing is compromised20:54
klarios_any other updates from anyone else?20:54
klarios_also thomasboimah you were invited to the bitwarden 20:54
thomasboimahOkay klarios_ thanks20:55
jelknerthis has been a really good day, klarios_ 20:55
jelknerthanks for chairing!20:55
jelknernice end to a great day20:55
klarios_check your check your thomas.boimah@novawebdevelopment.coop email20:55
klarios_and you will see it there20:55
klarios_thank you jelkner !20:55
thomasboimahThanks for the professional chairing klarios_ !20:55
thomasboimahI admire that20:55
klarios_* kei is done20:55
klarios_oops20:55
anthony_pklarios, i never heard back20:56
klarios_lol20:56
klarios_I see anthony_p 20:56
klarios_I can try to reach back out, maybe we need to contact a different person20:56
klarios_I have his contact info so i can do it as well20:57
klarios_thank you all for coming!20:57
johan_fbye everyone20:58
gabriel_jetroOkay 20:58
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fkoikoisee you all guys 20:59
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thomasboimahGood night everyone21:11
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