IRC log of #novawebdev for Saturday, 2026-02-07

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zOnnyGood morning thomasboimah 11:56
thomasboimahGood morning zOnny 11:58
zOnnyHow are you thomasboimah 11:58
thomasboimahI was able to get the mmalo running on may first but I have to take it down since the CSS was messed11:58
thomasboimahI will need your help to look into it11:59
thomasboimahSince I have try11:59
zOnnyyes, I see it thomasboimah 11:59
thomasboimahBut still not working11:59
zOnnyI will work on it12:00
zOnnyIt was running the same in my local computer12:00
thomasboimahI see12:01
zOnnythomasboimah it will happen the same with any libreorganize project12:01
zOnnysince I have upgraded the bootstrap css and js12:01
thomasboimahAhh I see12:01
zOnnythat is why I did mention about it in. doing it early with the few projects we have12:02
gabriel_jetroHi zOnny and thomasboimah sorry for joining late 12:02
zOnnyhi gabriel_jetro 12:02
thomasboimahHi Gabriel12:03
zOnnythomasboimah bootstrap5 has changed some names in the css classes and has rid off deprecated js12:04
zOnnythat is why the mmalo isn't loading properly12:04
thomasboimahI see I get now12:04
zOnnythat is why I'm builiding novawebdev website with bootstrap512:05
thomasboimahI thought it was me getting crazy ;-)12:05
zOnnythomasboimah jetro should be fine12:05
zOnnyone thing I recommend is using what bootstrap5 can give you12:06
zOnnythere are so many pre-built css that can be used without the need of creting more css12:07
zOnnyI now you Todo app is using your own css12:08
zOnnywhich I like it more12:08
zOnnyhowever as projects grow most developers rely in bootstrap or tailwinds12:09
zOnnyI like more tailwind12:10
zOnnyso many projects use it now12:10
zOnnyhowever it will mess it up more the libreorganize12:11
zOnnyI decided to keep bootstrap12:11
zOnnythat all12:12
zOnnydo you have any questions?12:12
thomasboimah-1 all clear now12:12
zOnnythomasboimah wil jelkner not being in today?12:14
gabriel_jetroHe said he was going to but might be late 12:14
thomasboimahHe said was going to pass and speak12:15
zOnnyI see12:16
zOnnythomasboimah I think ANCCF is moving forward with us12:17
thomasboimahYes Jeff said that they are going to hire you and kei12:18
gabriel_jetroYes Jeff told us yesterday and we'll be looking up to you to guide us through 12:19
thomasboimahBut I should ride shortgun12:19
thomasboimah*he12:19
thomasboimah*said12:19
zOnnyI see12:19
zOnnyI think Kei has another client for meeting up this coming week12:20
zOnnymeaning things are moving with Jeff and Kei 12:20
zOnnythey are wroking on the marketing 12:21
zOnnyso our goal is to be ready for them12:21
thomasboimahYeah12:21
gabriel_jetro+212:22
gabriel_jetro+112:22
zOnnythomasboimah you are doing great on getting this moving with the migrations12:23
thomasboimahSure12:24
zOnnygabriel_jetro do you have any questions for me?12:24
gabriel_jetroNot really for now 12:25
zOnnygabriel_jetro as far I know are are also part of the dev team yes?12:25
gabriel_jetro+112:25
zOnnygabriel_jetro is there any particular area would you like to help?12:26
gabriel_jetroI just want to be more involved with the project and you can assign me zOnny12:26
zOnnygabriel_jetro as for now I closely work with thomasboimah 12:27
zOnnyhe is getting familiar with how novawebdev works12:27
zOnnygabriel_jetro have you started looking into LibreOrganize12:28
gabriel_jetroYes I've clone the repo 12:29
thomasboimahzOnny: 12:30
zOnnyyes thomasboimah 12:30
gabriel_jetroAs thomasboimah said you instructed us to do 12:30
thomasboimahPlease I really don't think I will be able to stay long here today I want to reach to the clinic12:31
gabriel_jetroGreetings jelkner12:32
thomasboimahHello jelkner12:32
zOnnythomasboimah got it12:33
zOnnygood morning jelkner 12:33
jelknerGood morning zOnny12:35
jelknermy apologies for losing track of the time12:36
jelkneri get up earlier and earlier these days12:36
jelknersometimes 2:30 or 3 am12:36
jelknerso i have time to do my UoPeople work before my APS work ;-)12:36
zOnnyjelkner all good12:36
jelknerbut then i get deep into it, and lose track of the time12:36
jelkneri need to do that12:36
jelkneror i won't finish my work12:37
jelknerthis morning, for example, i was researching union printers12:37
zOnnyI understand, I used to feel the same taking 4 classes :(12:37
jelknerCheck this out: https://codeberg.org/jelkner/SolidarityEconomyNotes/src/branch/main/BUS5111/Unit2/UnionPrintShops.md12:38
gabriel_jetroSame here, I'm taking four classes this term 12:38
jelknerOuch!12:38
jelkner4 is too many!!12:38
jelknerI told thomasboimah he shouldn't take more than 1 per term12:38
jelknergabriel_jetro, you should think about that12:38
jelknerA few things to consider:12:39
jelkner1. The best way to learn is to combine *theory* and *practice*12:39
jelkner2. You have the opportunity now to do both, but only if you manage your time well.12:39
jelknerIf you take 4 classes, you are getting only theory12:39
jelkneryou won't have time for practice12:39
jelkneri told thomasboimah i won't pay him if he takes that many classes12:40
jelknersince i know he won't be able to deliver the goods as a dev12:40
jelknerit's not a race to finish12:40
zOnnyjelkner that is right12:40
jelknerbetter to move more slowly12:40
jelknerreally *learn* the material12:40
gabriel_jetroUnderstood 12:40
jelknerthat means applying it in projects as you learn12:41
jelknerACTION gets off his soap box now ;-)12:41
gabriel_jetroUnderstood jelkner 12:41
jelkneranyway, do y'all need me for anything?12:42
jelknerbefore i get back to work?12:42
gabriel_jetroI'll drop two and stick to my Database management system and communication and networking courses12:42
thomasboimah-1 for me12:42
jelknerzOnny, thomasboimah, i will set an alarm for tomorrow so i don't miss the meeting12:42
gabriel_jetro-112:42
jelkneri was thrilled to read the logs12:42
zOnnyjelkner sounds good12:42
jelknerthomasboimah, you are learning about css from practice now, having to deal with the tradeoffs that are involved with real world development12:43
jelknershould i use a 3rd party library or develop my own?12:43
jelknerif i use a 3rd party library, i will save a lot of time writing it, but incur future costs of managing my software as the library changes12:44
jelknerif i write my own, it will be a big cost up front, but it will only change when i change it12:44
jelknerso i have more control12:44
jelknerthere is no "right answer"12:44
zOnnythanks jelkner. That is the input I was trying to explain but I couldn't :)12:44
jelkneryou did explain it zOnny 12:45
jelknerand very well12:45
jelkneri'm just reinforcing what i saw you say in the logs12:45
jelknerok, i won't take any more of your valuable time12:45
jelkneri'll try setting an alarm for 6:50 am tomorrow so i don't forget to come to our meeting12:46
jelknersee you tomorrow...12:46
zOnnyjelkner I really like your shared assignment last weekend12:46
jelknerwhich one?12:46
jelkneri'm getting old and senile, i forget ;-)12:46
zOnnythe one you talk how money is seen12:47
jelkneroh yeah12:47
jelknermy UoPeople paper12:47
zOnnyyes12:47
jelkneri can only keep sane by venting12:47
zOnnyVery clear and well-structured12:48
jelknerHere's what i put in the first paragraph of this week's paper:12:48
jelknerAs a visitor to this strange world of capitalist12:49
jelknerfinance, I have the increasing conviction that I am learning to play a very complex game12:49
jelknercentered around the maximization of a magical property called “value”, and that this magical12:49
jelknerproperty is measured in an equally mysterious way by something called “money”. What makes12:49
jelknerthis mysterious game so deeply compelling is that it is used to obfuscate the social relations that12:49
jelknerseparate humanity into rulers and ruled. The game does indeed sometimes correspond to the12:49
jelknermaterial realities we experience, but it hides more than it reveals. Ok, with that off my chest let me12:49
jelknertry to figure out how to play this part of the game.12:49
jelknerThey must love me in the MBA program! ;-)12:50
zOnnylol they must be "who is this student" :)12:50
jelknerok, back to my trouble making duties12:51
jelknersee you tomorrow12:51
jelknerACTION signs off12:51
zOnnysee you tomorrow jelkner 12:51
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gabriel_jetrozOnny: 12:51
zOnnyyes gabriel_jetro 12:51
gabriel_jetroDo you have anything for me to start with before meeting next?12:51
zOnnythomasboimah I will be fixing the mmalo css today12:52
zOnnyfeel free to do what you have to12:52
zOnnyI will catch up with you tomorrow then12:52
thomasboimahOkay12:52
thomasboimahThanks for your understanding12:53
zOnnygabriel_jetro are you working on something at the moment?12:53
gabriel_jetroNot really 12:54
gabriel_jetroOnly assignment for now12:54
zOnnygabriel_jetro I'm gald to hear that you have running the Libreorganize in your local computer12:54
zOnnythat is the first step you be on track of what we are dealing with12:55
zOnnygabriel_jetro who is working on the jetro website?12:56
gabriel_jetroAll jetro Web members 12:56
zOnnyas far I know mulbah was involved on it12:56
zOnnydo you have access to it?12:56
zOnnyif you feel collaborating try to work closely with the dev team on it12:57
gabriel_jetroWe have it clone on dcammue laptop and we project during office time to work on it together 12:57
zOnnyI see12:58
zOnnygabriel_jetro are you familiar with git?12:58
gabriel_jetro+112:58
zOnnygabriel_jetro nice12:59
zOnnyFirst things first12:59
gabriel_jetroOnly gitlab is kinda confusing 12:59
zOnnydue that our communication is remotelly12:59
zOnnyI would like you to work on the Jetro website and share the progress with me13:00
zOnnyif you have any questions raise it in our next meeting13:00
gabriel_jetroOkay 13:00
zOnnyI think if you work with the dev team closely there13:00
zOnnyit will be easier to figure things out13:01
zOnnybut if you feel stuck and need help13:01
zOnnylet me know, I will be happy to assist13:01
gabriel_jetroOkay 13:02
zOnnygabriel_jetro I would like to give an assignment from the novawebdev projects13:02
zOnnyhowever, getting familiar with the libreorganize is key to move on13:02
zOnnygabriel_jetro you should have libreorganize in your own computer13:03
zOnnytry to clone it13:03
gabriel_jetroI do 13:03
zOnnydo you have a theme in it?13:03
gabriel_jetroYes 13:03
thomasboimahme going to the clinic for check up13:04
zOnnywhich theme you are running at the moment?13:04
thomasboimah has left #novawebdev (None)13:04
zOnnycan you do git branch in the theme directory?13:05
gabriel_jetroLemme check 13:05
gabriel_jetroI'm seeing master 13:08
gabriel_jetroAn wiki_doc13:08
gabriel_jetroMy bad ain't seeing theme here, zOnny 13:10
gabriel_jetrohttps://www.irccloud.com/pastebin/9TTzKVrS13:10
zOnnycool I see it now13:11
gabriel_jetroI'm on the mastes branch and there's no other brach 13:11
zOnnygabriel_jetro can you git branch13:11
zOnnyare you in master?13:11
zOnnycool13:11
zOnnycan you do git status?13:11
zOnnyit should not be any changes, yes?13:12
gabriel_jetrohttps://www.irccloud.com/pastebin/ISZxeSiU13:12
gabriel_jetroThe branch is up to date 13:13
zOnnycan you do git pull origin master13:14
zOnnyjust to be up to date13:14
gabriel_jetrohttps://www.irccloud.com/pastebin/oSdInoKL13:15
gabriel_jetroI did 13:15
zOnnynow go to libreorganize directory13:16
zOnnycd libreorganize13:16
zOnnyin libreorganize clone this repo13:16
zOnnygit clone https://gitlab.com/novawebdevelopment/libreorganize-customization/libreorganize-themes theme13:17
gabriel_jetrohttps://www.irccloud.com/pastebin/2xkb7U6h13:17
zOnnyclone that repo as a theme not as a libreorganize-themes13:18
gabriel_jetroOkay 13:19
zOnnymake sure you put the theme at the end while cloning it13:19
gabriel_jetroI seeing/libreorganize-themes theme?13:20
zOnnyyes13:20
zOnnyyou have to clone it as "theme"13:20
zOnnycopy the entire line13:21
zOnnyas13:21
zOnnygit clone https://gitlab.com/novawebdevelopment/libreorganize-customization/libreorganize-themes theme13:21
gabriel_jetroIt's asking for username 13:22
zOnnyhold on13:22
gabriel_jetrohttps://www.irccloud.com/pastebin/Bvkmt5AF13:23
zOnnybefore doing it13:23
zOnnycancel it13:23
zOnnytry this13:23
zOnnygit clone git@gitlab.com:novawebdevelopment/libreorganize-customization/libreorganize-themes.git theme13:23
gabriel_jetroI'm getting error that theme already exist 13:25
gabriel_jetrohttps://www.irccloud.com/pastebin/m3a8ANmM13:25
gabriel_jetrohttps://www.irccloud.com/pastebin/A5qJIHeO13:26
zOnnycan you do ls13:26
zOnny"ls"13:26
gabriel_jetroI did check13:27
gabriel_jetrohttps://www.irccloud.com/pastebin/ZRcQLqm813:27
zOnnyexit from theme13:28
zOnnyand delete it13:28
zOnnyit did created an empty directory 13:28
gabriel_jetroDone 13:29
gabriel_jetrohttps://www.irccloud.com/pastebin/jH2U3e5R13:30
zOnnynow try 13:30
zOnnygit clone git@gitlab.com:novawebdevelopment/libreorganize-customization/libreorganize-themes.git theme13:30
gabriel_jetroI'm having trouble here13:31
gabriel_jetrohttps://www.irccloud.com/pastebin/biMUpfiY13:31
zOnnyno worries13:32
zOnnyI want to confirm it13:32
zOnnycan you give me your username in gitlab?13:32
gabriel_jetrogab_riel113:33
gabriel_jetroMy bad13:34
gabriel_jetrogap_rinho113:34
gabriel_jetrogab-rinho113:35
zOnnynot matches found13:35
gabriel_jetrogab-rinho113:36
zOnnygot it13:36
zOnnyi did send an invitation13:36
gabriel_jetroACTION going to check my mail to confirm the invitation 13:37
gabriel_jetrozOnny: do I have to confirm it, because ain't seeing any link for confirmation 13:39
zOnnynot sure13:40
zOnnyyou are there13:41
gabriel_jetroOkay 13:41
zOnnycan you try to clone it again13:41
gabriel_jetroStill having the same error 13:42
gabriel_jetrohttps://www.irccloud.com/pastebin/ehmyFCUC13:42
zOnnyin your gitlab account13:42
zOnnydid you add your ssh key13:42
gabriel_jetroNo, I didn't..13:43
gabriel_jetroWhat about access token?13:43
zOnnyclick in your profile13:43
gabriel_jetroI'm used to using access token than ssh 13:43
zOnnyyou can do with access token13:44
gabriel_jetroOkay how can I add it, because I'm not used to gitlab 13:44
zOnnyit is in your preferences13:44
gabriel_jetroOnly GitHub 13:44
zOnnyso want to do access token?13:46
gabriel_jetroYes13:46
gabriel_jetroHow can I create one 13:47
zOnnygo for it13:47
gabriel_jetroWhere can I find it to create one?13:47
zOnnyclick in your profile13:48
zOnnythen click preferenes13:48
gabriel_jetroTo edit profile?13:48
zOnnyno13:48
zOnnyclick in your users icon13:49
zOnnythere you will see a drop down13:49
zOnnyand select preferences13:49
gabriel_jetroIn preferences ain't seeing access token 13:51
gabriel_jetroWhat should I look for?13:52
zOnnypersonal access tokens13:52
zOnnyI think we can set it up later13:52
zOnnyfor now you should clone the https13:52
gabriel_jetroOkay 13:53
zOnnygit clone https://gitlab.com/novawebdevelopment/libreorganize-customization/libreorganize-themes theme13:53
zOnnyusername and password13:53
zOnnyare your gitlab crendentials13:53
zOnnythat's all13:53
gabriel_jetroOkay 13:53
zOnnylet me know when you got the theme repo13:55
gabriel_jetroOkay it's cloning 13:56
gabriel_jetro50% now13:58
gabriel_jetroACTION done14:01
gabriel_jetrohttps://www.irccloud.com/pastebin/mT4tYK4n14:01
gabriel_jetrozOnny: 14:02
zOnnygabriel_jetro slow network?14:04
gabriel_jetroYes14:06
gabriel_jetroBut it's done14:07
zOnnyalright14:07
zOnnycan you do git branch in theme?14:08
zOnnyyou probably are in base14:09
gabriel_jetroI see base14:09
gabriel_jetrohttps://www.irccloud.com/pastebin/IMa2Rt0b14:09
zOnnyfor reference14:10
zOnnyyou can use this https://gitlab.com/novawebdevelopment/libreorganize-customization/libreorganize-themes repo14:10
zOnnyand checkout to other novawebdev branches14:10
gabriel_jetroOkay 14:11
gabriel_jetroSo what's my task now 14:11
zOnnycreate a new branch for the jetrowebdev14:11
zOnnynot sure if there is one already14:11
gabriel_jetroOkay 14:11
zOnnyask your team about it14:12
gabriel_jetroOkay I'll 14:12
zOnnythe goal is to use git all the time in order to keep it sync with the production server14:12
zOnnyonce you have the jetrowebdev branch14:12
zOnnyyou can update the theme only 14:13
gabriel_jetroOkay 14:13
gabriel_jetroWhat update Will I be doing 14:13
gabriel_jetroLike changing file or 14:14
zOnnyfor know try to get the jetrowebdev design into theme14:14
zOnnyI think jetrowebdev has a website, yes?14:14
gabriel_jetroYes 14:14
zOnnycan you do git checkout -b jetrowebdev14:15
zOnnythat should get you to the new jetrowebdev branch14:15
zOnnyalways make sure in which branch you are working14:15
gabriel_jetroIs it the repo that I clone I'll be moving into them at the jetro Web branch I'll create?14:16
zOnnythe jetrowebdev branch will have changes for the jetrowebdev website14:16
zOnnyhttps://jetrowebdevelopment.org/14:17
zOnnydo you see this14:17
zOnnyis is done with css and js, yes?14:17
gabriel_jetro+114:18
zOnnylet's do it together so you an the idea14:18
zOnnydo you have the jetrowebdevelopment branch?14:19
gabriel_jetroNot yet lemme create it rn14:19
zOnnycool14:19
zOnnywhat would you like to name it?14:20
zOnnyjetrowebdevelopment or jetrowebdev?14:20
zOnnyI think you should do it as a jetrowebdevelopment14:20
zOnnysince novawebdev is novawebdevelopment branch14:21
zOnnywe should use the domains name14:21
gabriel_jetroOops 😬14:22
zOnny?14:22
gabriel_jetroI created it as Jetrowebdev14:22
zOnnythat works14:22
gabriel_jetrohttps://www.irccloud.com/pastebin/lO4s8HPk14:22
zOnnyit is ok14:22
zOnnynow do you see in theme the static files?14:23
zOnnythere is css and js directories14:24
gabriel_jetro+114:24
zOnnyin the theme.css you can add the jetrowebdevelopment.org css14:25
zOnnysame in the theme.js14:26
zOnnyand in templates14:26
zOnnythe home.html is should display the jetro homepage14:26
zOnnytry to change something in home.html14:27
gabriel_jetroOk 14:27
zOnnyadd and <h1>Hello World!</h1>\14:27
zOnnythen re run the libreorganize14:27
zOnnylet me see if you see it14:27
zOnny*know*14:28
gabriel_jetroWait...14:28
gabriel_jetroElectricity just left and my computer is giving a countdown can we continue tomorrow please after church 14:28
zOnnysure gabriel_jetro 14:29
zOnnylet's continue tomorrow14:29
zOnnywe have a good progress today14:29
zOnnyonce you get the idea14:29
gabriel_jetroOkay14:30
gabriel_jetroHave a nice day 14:30
zOnnyyou will understand how the other branches work14:30
zOnnysee you tomorrow14:30
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