| zOnny | Good morning resl ? | 10:53 |
|---|---|---|
| zOnny | jelkner: Good morning | 10:56 |
| gabriel_jetro | Good morning jelkner, zOnny and resl | 10:57 |
| zOnny | Good morning gabriel_jetro | 10:58 |
| thomasboimah | good morning comrade | 10:59 |
| jelkner | Yesterday i met with Yolanda from the DNOVA Council and we talked about using Decdim for community engagement. Then i met with NOVA Web comrades to talk about NS plans. Today i'll be grading exams and going with my wife and son to celebrate mother's day. No blockers. | 11:00 |
| jelkner | ACTION done | 11:00 |
| thomasboimah | Yesterday I attended our NovaWeb weekly meeting to change the copyright on the Jelkner blog. While looking at the blog structure, I saw that the box feature is enabled, so that means Jeff can easily update his 'About' page if he has an account on weblog.elkner.net. Today I will be working with zOnny. No blockers. | 11:00 |
| thomasboimah | ACTION done | 11:00 |
| zOnny | Yesterday, I completed the Stripe integration with invoices in the Business Tracker, enabling partners to process payments directly through Stripe. The integration also syncs with the Business Tracker automatically once Stripe confirms a payment has been completed. No blockers. | 11:00 |
| zOnny | ACTION dome | 11:00 |
| zOnny | ACTION dumb | 11:01 |
| zOnny | ACTION done :) | 11:01 |
| jelkner | Wow, this is amazing! | 11:01 |
| jelkner | thomasboimah, you rock! | 11:02 |
| jelkner | you too zOnny! | 11:02 |
| zOnny | thomasboimah: Amazing | 11:02 |
| jelkner | thomasboimah, zOnny, since gabriel_jetro is here, we should summarize the conversation zOnny and i had yesterday about how to expand the Jetro Web dev team | 11:02 |
| zOnny | jelkner: yes | 11:03 |
| thomasboimah | sure | 11:03 |
| jelkner | thomasboimah, you are at the point now where i can feel confident going out and looking for business | 11:03 |
| zOnny | jelkner: Let's bring gabriel_jetro to the Court House | 11:03 |
| jelkner | lol | 11:03 |
| jelkner | your email to kara was so inspiring | 11:04 |
| jelkner | what a great thing to wake up to! | 11:04 |
| zOnny | jelkner: what is gabriel_jetro's crime? | 11:04 |
| jelkner | gabriel_jetro, are you here? | 11:04 |
| gabriel_jetro | Yes | 11:05 |
| jelkner | ok, let me summarize what i said to zOnny yesterday | 11:05 |
| jelkner | he can tell me if i am reporting it accurately | 11:05 |
| jelkner | and whether he still agrees with my assessment | 11:06 |
| zOnny | jelkner: drums roll | 11:06 |
| jelkner | 1. The idea of having thomasboimah and dacammue become salaried has been a fantastic success | 11:06 |
| jelkner | they continually deliver above and beyond the call and we can rely on them to deliver value that will make Jetro a success | 11:07 |
| jelkner | 2. The idea of having everyone else work for "pay on delivery" using an hourly wage has not worked well | 11:08 |
| jelkner | i think that plan needs to be revisited | 11:08 |
| jelkner | my personal limit of funding for our project is $1200 per month | 11:08 |
| jelkner | so we need to begin doing two things together: | 11:09 |
| jelkner | 1. Bringing in new paying customers so we can increase Jetro's monthly revenue | 11:09 |
| jelkner | 2. Growing the Jetro Dev team so we can serve these customers | 11:09 |
| jelkner | zOnny, how did i do? | 11:09 |
| gabriel_jetro | Sounds great | 11:10 |
| gabriel_jetro | jelkner: | 11:10 |
| jelkner | gabriel_jetro | 11:10 |
| gabriel_jetro | Yes | 11:10 |
| jelkner | lol, i was responding to your jelkner: | 11:10 |
| zOnny | jelkner: +1 | 11:10 |
| jelkner | so gabriel_jetro, we need to figure out what you are willing to do | 11:11 |
| jelkner | it will be up to thomasboimah and zOnny to evaluate your skills | 11:11 |
| jelkner | but if you are interested in becoming salaried too | 11:12 |
| jelkner | and we need to discuss at what rate you would start | 11:12 |
| jelkner | you need to be willing to come in to work in the office | 11:12 |
| jelkner | can you do that? | 11:12 |
| jelkner | that's why we got the office | 11:12 |
| zOnny | jelkner: It is mostly thomasboimah and the Jetro team who most decide about his skillet members | 11:12 |
| gabriel_jetro | Yes jelkner | 11:12 |
| jelkner | yes, zOnny | 11:12 |
| gabriel_jetro | I visit the office weekly | 11:13 |
| jelkner | but asking thomasboimah to decide this on his own is not best | 11:13 |
| jelkner | for now, it would be great if he can rely on you to help him | 11:13 |
| jelkner | Jetro controls their own business | 11:13 |
| zOnny | jelkner: I'm willing to spend as much time needed for them to be as much familiar with the NovaWebDev projects so in the meantime they help us with small requests | 11:13 |
| gabriel_jetro | Monday Wednesday and Friday | 11:13 |
| jelkner | they have the power to overrule any suggestion i make | 11:14 |
| jelkner | thomasboimah, what do you think? | 11:14 |
| thomasboimah | Sound good to me | 11:15 |
| zOnny | jelkner: I works for me too | 11:15 |
| zOnny | **it | 11:15 |
| thomasboimah | I am always ready to help gabriel_jetro as long he is ready | 11:15 |
| jelkner | that way gabriel_jetro, you can get help directly from thomasboimah, since you'll be in the office together | 11:15 |
| jelkner | ok, we need to talk to dcammue tomorrow about budgeting | 11:15 |
| jelkner | you'll need to start with a monthly budget of $1200 and figure out how to use that to grow your cooperative | 11:16 |
| jelkner | $1200 - $800 (Thomas and Daniel salary) = $400 | 11:17 |
| jelkner | so that isn't much to work with | 11:17 |
| jelkner | you need to pay your rent, electricity, Internet, etc. | 11:17 |
| jelkner | you see what you're up against | 11:18 |
| jelkner | the solution is to increase the revenue | 11:18 |
| jelkner | i'll talk with resl about this on Monday at 10 am EST | 11:18 |
| jelkner | we have a meeting for that | 11:18 |
| jelkner | she and i will be doing the most to look for customers | 11:18 |
| zOnny | jelkner: +1 | 11:19 |
| jelkner | all this needs to work in coordination | 11:19 |
| jelkner | that's the tricky part | 11:19 |
| jelkner | if we bring in customers, you have to be ready to make them happy | 11:19 |
| jelkner | if you do, the process grows | 11:19 |
| jelkner | if not, it withers and dies :-( | 11:19 |
| jelkner | i have confidence in thomasboimah now | 11:20 |
| jelkner | gabriel_jetro, i want to get that same feeling about your skills | 11:20 |
| jelkner | but that will only come when i see you deliver | 11:20 |
| gabriel_jetro | +1 | 11:20 |
| jelkner | lots of pull requests approved by thomasboimah and zOnny | 11:20 |
| jelkner | tasks given that you come back and say "done" (like thomasboimah did with the weblog yesterday) | 11:21 |
| zOnny | ACTION keeps with the drums roll | 11:21 |
| jelkner | wow, i can't tell you what a happy customer i am!! | 11:21 |
| zOnny | jelkner: quick question | 11:21 |
| jelkner | i'm signing, dancing *and* beating the drum! | 11:21 |
| jelkner | my weblog has an updated copyright | 11:21 |
| jelkner | and thomasboimah told me boxes are there to update my about me | 11:22 |
| jelkner | i forgot that | 11:22 |
| jelkner | so he just delivered | 11:22 |
| jelkner | *that's* what makes customers happy ;-) | 11:22 |
| jelkner | zOnny, what's your question | 11:22 |
| zOnny | jelkner: Did I hear that one person is interested in joining with the work we do? | 11:23 |
| jelkner | what do you mean by "the work that we do"? | 11:23 |
| jelkner | i don't understand | 11:23 |
| zOnny | jelkner: with the coop interests | 11:24 |
| zOnny | jelkner: nvm is just me | 11:24 |
| jelkner | i don't know of any prospective new members | 11:24 |
| jelkner | but i did mention a prospective intern | 11:24 |
| zOnny | jelkner: probably it was in my dream | 11:24 |
| gabriel_jetro | Lol | 11:24 |
| jelkner | no, i mentioned meeting with a Virginia Tech senior that resl introduced me too last week | 11:25 |
| jelkner | we had a meeting about a possible internship | 11:25 |
| zOnny | jelkner: that one | 11:25 |
| jelkner | he has finals this week | 11:25 |
| zOnny | cool | 11:25 |
| jelkner | i told him to finish his finals, look at our gitlab repos, and then schedule another meeting with us | 11:26 |
| jelkner | if he sees things he thinks it would be fun to work on | 11:26 |
| zOnny | jelkner: cool | 11:26 |
| zOnny | jelkner: My business class is getting interesting | 11:26 |
| jelkner | how so? | 11:26 |
| zOnny | jelkner: I'm learning about SMART goals | 11:27 |
| jelkner | i love SMART goals | 11:27 |
| jelkner | there are a lot of things in these business classes i *hate* | 11:27 |
| jelkner | SMART goals is not one of them ;-) | 11:27 |
| zOnny | jelkner: lol | 11:27 |
| jelkner | we on the left in the U.S. need to learn about SMART goals! | 11:27 |
| jelkner | since we saddly mostly have foggy goals and stupid goals now :-( | 11:28 |
| zOnny | https://biz.libretexts.org/Bookshelves/Management/Organizational_Behavior/06%3A_Designing_a_Motivating_Work_Environment/06.3%3A_Motivating_Employees_Through_Goal_Setting | 11:28 |
| zOnny | we are using LibreTexts | 11:28 |
| jelkner | of course you are | 11:29 |
| jelkner | UoPeople! | 11:29 |
| jelkner | remember zOnny, i'm a student there too | 11:29 |
| zOnny | jelkner: right, I'm sure you are familiar with it | 11:29 |
| jelkner | so here is what i like, and here is what i don't like about the page you just sent me | 11:29 |
| zOnny | jelkner: go for it | 11:30 |
| jelkner | What i like: setting specific, measurable, achievable (this framing says "aggressive", which i like less), realistic, and time-bound goals is both empowering and motivating | 11:31 |
| jelkner | the text talks about how having goals like this is motivational... so true! | 11:31 |
| jelkner | here is what i don't like about this text (and the whole business program under capitalism) | 11:32 |
| zOnny | jelkner: I see | 11:32 |
| jelkner | it talks about making us better "employees" | 11:32 |
| jelkner | wage slaves for the boss | 11:32 |
| zOnny | jelkner: It does | 11:33 |
| jelkner | we are only being motivated here to make him richer | 11:33 |
| jelkner | not to improve our lives | 11:33 |
| zOnny | jelkner: +1 | 11:33 |
| jelkner | (though being motivated does "feel" better than being unmotivated, even if you're a wage slave :-( | 11:33 |
| zOnny | jelkner: I should copy and paste this to my Professor | 11:33 |
| jelkner | don't get yourself in trouble zOnny | 11:34 |
| jelkner | just get through the class and get your degree | 11:34 |
| jelkner | then we can fight this battle by building the solidarity economy together | 11:34 |
| zOnny | jelkner: Frist Amemdment | 11:34 |
| zOnny | **first | 11:34 |
| jelkner | sure my dear friend | 11:34 |
| jelkner | anyway, i love these discussions! | 11:35 |
| jelkner | we are getting to a higher level of understanding what we are doing | 11:35 |
| jelkner | our practice together is deepening | 11:35 |
| zOnny | jelkner: this week is https://biz.libretexts.org/Bookshelves/Management/Principles_of_Management/13%3A_Managing_Groups_and_Teams | 11:35 |
| zOnny | jelkner: that's all | 11:35 |
| zOnny | jelkner: thanks for you input | 11:35 |
| jelkner | this is fun zOnny | 11:35 |
| jelkner | in my MBA program, we study all these same things | 11:36 |
| gabriel_jetro | But the word capital doesn't mean money, jelkner it means knowledge so having knowledge give you broad understanding on how you should live that's why I love from you the most, because you're the best teacher I've seen in my life because you show me the world at large and how to navigate the evil part of it even though we can skip it but we can live with it and limit ourselves. | 11:36 |
| jelkner | just more reading on each one | 11:36 |
| jelkner | and lots of essays | 11:36 |
| zOnny | jelkner: nice | 11:36 |
| zOnny | jelkner: that is encouraging | 11:37 |
| jelkner | let me tell you gabriel_jetro, as i say often, working with y'all at jetro web has been the most rewarding educational experience of my life | 11:37 |
| jelkner | i am so grateful for it | 11:37 |
| jelkner | i always enjoy working in high school, where i get to watch children enter adulthood | 11:38 |
| jelkner | but with jetro, i get to stay with you all as your grow into the full flower of your adulthood | 11:38 |
| jelkner | you are in your mid-twenties now | 11:38 |
| zOnny | ACTION is holding tears | 11:39 |
| jelkner | and if i live long enough, i'll soon get to see you become leaders in your community | 11:39 |
| jelkner | lol | 11:39 |
| jelkner | me too, zOnny | 11:39 |
| jelkner | i'm serious | 11:39 |
| jelkner | i'm just an old teacher | 11:39 |
| jelkner | this is what it's all about for me ;-) | 11:39 |
| jelkner | ok, it's mother's day here | 11:40 |
| jelkner | i have to go get flowers for my wife | 11:40 |
| zOnny | jelkner: Happy mother's day to your wife | 11:41 |
| gabriel_jetro | Yes jelkner same here | 11:41 |
| gabriel_jetro | But I don't have flowers for my Mom... | 11:41 |
| jelkner | and then we are going to meet with our son and his comañera later today | 11:41 |
| zOnny | I took the flowers from the back yard | 11:41 |
| jelkner | okie dokie all, see you tomorrow at 11:00 UTC | 11:42 |
| zOnny | jelkner: see you | 11:42 |
| zOnny | jelkner: leave the bag of gravel | 11:42 |
| jelkner | anything else before i go? | 11:42 |
| jelkner | oh yes | 11:42 |
| jelkner | ACTION drops the bag of grave | 11:42 |
| jelkner | gravel | 11:42 |
| jelkner | zOnny, it's so good to have a NOVA Web V2 person here to keep the traditions alive! | 11:43 |
| zOnny | jelkner: right | 11:43 |
| jelkner | ACTION signs off | 11:43 |
| jelkner has quit (Quit: Leaving) | 11:43 | |
| zOnny | alright team | 11:44 |
| zOnny | where are we | 11:44 |
| zOnny | updates? | 11:44 |
| thomasboimah | We are posted ;-) | 11:44 |
| zOnny | thomasboimah: well done with the blog | 11:45 |
| thomasboimah | zOnny, i see that resl already add the stripe link to nova web invoice | 11:45 |
| gabriel_jetro | I didn't see any task assign to me yesterday I I went through the log zOnny | 11:45 |
| zOnny | thomasboimah: that is the stripe invoice by itself | 11:45 |
| thomasboimah | ahhh | 11:45 |
| thomasboimah | I see | 11:45 |
| thomasboimah | not on the BT | 11:45 |
| thomasboimah | got you | 11:45 |
| zOnny | thomasboimah: she did send it because I assumed the partner want to paid it online | 11:46 |
| zOnny | thomasboimah: I have integrated it last night | 11:46 |
| zOnny | thomasboimah: using the Stripe Webhooks and scretkeys | 11:47 |
| zOnny | thomasboimah: I was about to push it | 11:47 |
| zOnny | thomasboimah: but I want to test it out completely | 11:47 |
| zOnny | thomasboimah: I want it to work sync with stripe | 11:48 |
| thomasboimah | okay | 11:48 |
| zOnny | thomasboimah: also it is important to know how we store those keys in our project | 11:48 |
| zOnny | thomasboimah: little things to consider when working with payments | 11:48 |
| zOnny | thomasboimah: you will see in my push | 11:49 |
| zOnny | thomasboimah: I will explain it to you what I have done | 11:49 |
| thomasboimah | Alright look forward to learn new thing | 11:49 |
| zOnny | thomasboimah: but mainly it is the stripe secret key and webhooks placed and added the stripe QRcode | 11:50 |
| zOnny | thomasboimah: same like we had with Paypay=l | 11:50 |
| zOnny | **Paypal | 11:50 |
| zOnny | thomasboimah: I'm not sure about adding the QRcode in the invoice | 11:51 |
| zOnny | thomasboimah: I don't trust QRcodes anymore | 11:51 |
| zOnny | thomasboimah: but since many people scan them and pay with their phones | 11:51 |
| zOnny | thomasboimah: we should just enable it | 11:51 |
| thomasboimah | yep | 11:51 |
| zOnny | thomasboimah: at least here in the US QRcodes are for scamming porpuses | 11:52 |
| zOnny | thomasboimah: that's all | 11:52 |
| zOnny | thomasboimah: did you get a chance to create a stripe for Jetro? | 11:53 |
| zOnny | thomasboimah: you will have also your own invoices | 11:53 |
| thomasboimah | aah i almost forget to give you update on that | 11:53 |
| thomasboimah | but it maybe in the log | 11:53 |
| thomasboimah | since i talk to Jeff about it | 11:53 |
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