IRC log of #novawebdev for Sunday, 2026-06-28

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jelknermorning smohamud10:58
smohamudgood morning :)10:58
smohamudhow's it going?10:59
jelknerJust finished another blog post: https://weblog.elkner.net/blog/88/10:59
jelknerIt's great to be here!10:59
smohamudoh nice! let me take a look10:59
jelknerThomas just walked in10:59
jelknerhe'll be here shortly10:59
zOnnyGood morning jelkner 11:00
thomasboimahGood morning comrades!11:01
jelknerHello world, zOnny!11:01
jelknerokie dokie, the gang's all here11:01
zOnnyYesterday I was doing some code review and start adding tests to our current projects to keep everything solid and well covered. No Blockers.11:01
zOnnyACTION done11:01
zOnnyjelkner: what time is there?11:02
jelknerYesterday i worked with mulbah on CSC 215 / CSC 223 curriculum, which will be the focus of my Summer break. We made a lot of progress. No blockers.11:02
jelknerACTION done11:02
jelkner11 am11:02
smohamudmorning comrades11:02
thomasboimahYesterday work on the issue file on BT by resl and added test for the Tasks app on BT.11:02
zOnnyGood morning smohamud 11:02
jelknerzOnny: gabriel and mulbah are off today11:02
jelknerbut since this is the best time to reach you11:03
zOnnyjelkner: thanks for the update11:03
smohamudYesterday I was slammed, today I'm going to knock out a list of tasks fro Resl related to the About page on SJC website 11:03
smohamuddone11:03
jelkneri'm hoping you can help guide me on working with them (gabriel and mulbah) and the 7 summer interns during the week11:03
smohamudOne blocker: Zonny - did you review my changes to the SJC branch Navigation Bar?11:04
smohamudI think they're ready for prime time.11:04
zOnnyjelkner: sure11:04
jelknerzOnny, smohamud, we need to figure out who our design team is11:04
zOnnysmohamud: yup11:04
jelknersince that seems to be our weakest link at the moment11:04
jelknerand even though it will take a good bit of time to address it11:05
jelknerseems we need to make a plan if we are going to get there11:05
zOnnyjelkner: It is obvious we need one but I don't see it is a priority11:05
smohamudI will always be available to help with Design. I agree with Zonny it's not a priority for now.11:06
jelknerok, zOnny, interesting, why not?11:06
zOnnyjelkner: at least with our current projects but I can be wrong11:06
jelkneri agree with you about our current project (we only have one, right?)11:07
jelknerbut that's the point11:07
jelknerif we start looking for more11:07
jelknerwill we be ready for them?11:07
zOnnyjelkner: I think we will feel it once we are stuck or we are blocking on something like that11:07
jelkneri'm already feeling it, zOnny 11:08
smohamudI think we should be training someone on using PenPot ASAP since that's something customers may expect and it will look unprofessional if we can't provide it.11:08
jelkneri need someone who can make the library app look good11:08
jelknerand i don't know who to askk11:08
jelknerask11:08
zOnnyjelkner: I see11:08
jelknercjones and i are faced with the same problem11:09
jelknersmohamud: he looked at penpot, and thought it too much for beginners11:09
jelkneri agree with him11:09
jelknerskills need to be built from the ground up11:09
jelknerso they are solid11:09
zOnnyjelkner: I think the library app doesn't need much design since it is a form and it could use crispy forms or bootstrap511:10
smohamudResl said she's interested in learning it earlier this week. Kei is interested, too11:10
jelkneris crispy forms what we use for BT?11:10
zOnnyjelkner: +111:10
jelknerah, cool11:10
jelkneri'll file an issue asking for that11:11
jelknergreat, zOnny, that helps for now11:11
zOnnyjelkner: that will definitely improve it11:11
jelknersmohamud: did you see cjone's design app?11:11
zOnnyjelkner: I love it11:11
jelknerit will, zOnny, *a lot*!11:11
smohamudJelkner, I'll take a look and write a list of reccos similar to what I did with Sjcompute. Speaking of which - Zonny - any thoghts yet?11:12
zOnnyjelkner: cjones made something very useful11:12
smohamudNot yet Jelkner but I want to. Can you remind me where I can access the branch or site?11:12
zOnnyhttps://layouter.dev/11:13
jelknerThanks, zOnny 11:14
dcammueGood morning zOnny 11:14
zOnnyjelkner: I'm curious how did he achieved it11:15
jelknerzOnny, he had an extended conversation with chatgpt11:15
zOnnyjelkner: it will save so much time for web design porpuses11:15
jelknerzOnny, over the next few years, we are both hoping to improve our curriculum through our relationship with NOVA / Jetro11:16
jelknersince it gives students opportunity for real world projects11:16
jelknerand potentially provides the co-ops with a pipeline of talented interns11:17
jelknerthe better we can guide them11:17
jelknerthe better for everyone11:17
zOnnyjelkner: I see11:17
zOnnyjelkner: I think the idea was always there11:17
zOnnyjelkner: it is just the way we implement it isn't the best11:17
jelkneryes, zOnny, you are living proof, right?11:17
jelknercorrect11:18
jelknerwe need to get better at it11:18
jelknertomorrow i'll suggest that Janet and Freena work on the library app11:18
zOnnyjelkner: students need well skilled devs that can help them to move forward11:19
jelknerand use crispy forms, as you suggest11:19
smohamudV interesting and the buttons at the top are awkwardly placed...unncessarily placed to the right side. Otherwise kinda reminds me of wordpress... Not a bad start. 11:19
jelknersmohamud: the code is ours to fix11:19
jelkneri look forward to discussing this at our Tuesday meeting11:20
jelknersince with 7 Summer interns, helping them all be productive is our biggest challenge11:20
smohamudGotcha, I'll take a look. 11:20
smohamud+111:20
jelknerok, anything else we need to discuss before we get down to work?11:21
zOnnyjelkner: yes, workflows11:21
jelknergo for it zOnny 11:22
zOnnyjelkner: nvm11:23
jelkner??11:23
zOnnyjelkner: I think we are good at it so far11:23
jelknerok, but let's talk more at the tuesday meeting11:24
smohamudOk, well Zonny I'm all ears if you ever have a suggestion.11:24
zOnnysmohamud: will do11:24
zOnnyjelkner: cool11:24
smohamudAnd - I know you're super busy - whenever you get a chance to review the SJC changes that'd be awesome11:25
zOnnysmohamud: will get to you11:25
smohamudok, thanks11:25
zOnnysmohamud: I didn't want to mix up the meeting with our dev yet11:25
smohamudah gotcha11:25
jelknerok, dear comrades, i'm going to get to emails and curriculum11:26
jelknersmohamud: you're at work tomorrow, and i'm here11:26
jelknerso maybe we should cancel our weekday irc morning meetings11:26
jelkneruntil i leave?11:27
zOnnysmohamud: are you still around yes?11:27
smohamud+1 Jelkner11:27
zOnnysmohamud: meaning in the U.S.11:27
smohamud+1 until July 2811:27
zOnnysmohamud: got it11:27
jelknerok then, see you at our tuesday meeting11:28
zOnnyjelkner: see you11:28
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smohamudZonny - is Tuesday or next weekend better to discuss the changes?11:30
zOnnysmohamud: I'm looking at it rigt now11:30
smohamudooh ok11:31
zOnnysmohamud: I did look at it before but I forgot to reply11:31
smohamud+111:34
zOnnysmohamud: quick question11:46
smohamud+111:47
zOnnyare you familiar with bootstrap? https://getbootstrap.com/docs/5.3/components/navbar/#how-it-works11:48
smohamudMore or less yes, I've worked with Bootstrap Navbars a few times before this. Is there something you'd differently?11:50
smohamudBootstrap is something I use on my main day job project, too.11:51
zOnnysmohamud: cool11:51
zOnnysmohamud: there isn't nothing wrong with your code, It is good that you can add your custom css to make things work11:52
zOnnysmohamud: but sometimes it is good to think what libraries you already are using in your project11:52
smohamud+1 I will ensure I'm not missing out on a built-in bootstrap feature that would do it better. Good point11:53
zOnnysmohamud: and make use of it, if it has something that can help to minimize adding extra lines of code11:53
smohamud+1. If you approve, let's merge. I will also do a further look to make sure it's not over-engineered and there's not a bootstrap substitute.11:54
smohamudI mean -- let's deploy. 11:55
smohamudZonny I will reply via text but I have to get rolling. I have a morning engagement. Pre-Kenya life is very hectic!!11:57
zOnnysmohamud: all good11:58
zOnnysmohamud: i was just about to push what I meant11:58
zOnnysmohamud: small adjustment11:58
smohamudThanks for the solid feedback. I will take another look this evening before I get to the next things to see if there's a better boostrap-supported solution.  11:58
zOnnysmohamud: after that I will pull it into prod11:58
smohamudOk, sounds good :)11:59
zOnnysmohamud: also I will remove so extra docs that got into the repo11:59
zOnnysmohamud: Assuming there weren't intentionaly pushed https://gitlab.com/novawebdevelopment/libreorganize-customization/libreorganize-themes/-/tree/sjcompute/templates/un17sdgsNoPlan?12:01
smohamudGood call12:01
zOnnyhttps://gitlab.com/novawebdevelopment/libreorganize-customization/libreorganize-themes/-/tree/sjcompute/static/documents12:02
smohamud+112:03
zOnnysmohamud: are you aware that rels has requested updates to sjcompute?12:03
smohamudYes, I've been assigned multiple I plan to at least begin today.12:05
zOnnysmohamud: awesome12:06
zOnnysmohamud: please let me know if you need any help on that12:06
zOnnysmohamud: that's I'm here for on weekends12:06
zOnnysmohamud: sorry that I cannot be as productive as I want during the week12:06
smohamudOk, nothing stands out as beyond what I can take care of. If you have nothing on your plate, please go ahead and just let me know12:07
smohamudWhat you do, and I'll do the remainder12:07
zOnnysmohamud: the whole point of this is getting everyone with deliverables12:11
smohamudRight 12:11
zOnnysmohamud: I will add my adjustment if it is needed 12:11
zOnnysmohamud: I don't mind doing it and have it ready today but we will lose the whole point12:12
smohamudOk, I misunderstood you.12:12
zOnnysmohamud: all good12:12
smohamudI am fine and happy I have deliverables. 12:12
smohamudI will absolutely let you know if I could use a hand :)12:12
zOnnysmohamud: although I'm dying for doing it but it is about everyone's involvement and learning12:13
smohamudhehe I see. Thank you for reigning in that instinct. Save some for the rest of us!!12:13
zOnnysmohamud: trying my best12:13
smohamudOk, I have to run because a friend of mine invited me out12:14
zOnnyACTION is pushing some changes12:14
smohamudAnd it's getting close12:14
zOnnysmohamud: ok12:14
zOnnysmohamud: thanks for being in the meeting12:14
smohamudGreat. Text me if there's ever anything I can help with, too.12:14
zOnnysmohamud: it is important for me that the dev team can make it12:15
smohamud+1. Will try to get to 100% attendance ASAP. 12:15
zOnnysmohamud: since it is a time we can spend together to fix if they are blocking on something12:15
smohamud+112:16
zOnnyHi thomasboimah 12:18
thomasboimahHi zOnny 12:18
smohamudI have been struggling partly because of being on medication for a month that messed up my sleep schedule... I finished the last of it last night.12:18
zOnny+112:19
zOnnythomasboimah: how is you day going so far12:19
zOnnythomasboimah: how does it feel working with jeff on the side?12:20
zOnnyIs he laud as always?12:20
zOnny**loud12:20
thomasboimahMy day is Great zOnny, It is Nice working with Jeff12:20
zOnnysmohamud: you are actualy using the https://gitlab.com/novawebdevelopment/libreorganize-customization/libreorganize-themes/-/tree/sjcompute/templates/un17sdgsNoPlan?12:23
zOnnysmohamud: is that how supposed to work?12:24
zOnnysmohamud: nvm, I think it was there already12:25
smohamud+112:26
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zOnnyhey tboimah 14:13
zOnnyI'm going to drop off my dad 14:14
tboimahOkay14:14
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