IRC log of #novawebdev for Saturday, 2026-08-29

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svayeGood morning smohamud 10:38
smohamudGood morning svaye10:44
smohamudHow're you?10:44
svayeI am good, How are you doing?10:45
smohamudGlad to hear that. I'm good too10:54
smohamudHi jkollie10:54
jkollieHi smohamud how are you doing?10:54
jkollieGood morning svaye 10:54
smohamudGood. How're you?10:55
jkollieI'm fine 10:56
svayeGood morning jkollie, How are you doing?10:56
jkollieI'm doing fine svaye 10:57
svayeGood morning jelkner 10:57
zOnnyGood morning comrades10:59
jelknerYesterday i attended the NSTI workshop and was thrilled to see janet, shallon and james talk about their plans. I emailed two people i met in the workshop and called Yolonda from Lazera Ministries (https://lazeracommunity.org/) to talk about our own teach-in plans. This morning i had an hour long delightful conversation with sahnun. I'm thrilled to see us making so much progress! No blockers.11:00
jelknerACTION done11:00
jelknerlol11:00
jelknerlook at my time stamp11:00
jelkneri nailed it on the dot!11:00
jelkner;-)11:00
zOnnyThis past week I've been focused on some NS AMS updates and keeping an eye on what's next in the pipeline to see if we're ready to move forward with those updates. Quick personal note: I'm currently in FL looking for a place to relocate, but don't worry, I'm still fully available and actively helping out with whatever's needed. No Blockers11:00
jelknerwhat happened thomasboimah?11:00
zOnnyACTION done11:00
jelkneryou're usually right there with me11:00
jkollieYesterday I attended the workshop and it was really great, sharing and learning.11:01
thomasboimahYesterday I work with Janet and Mr. Cooper to set them up for the next system teach in session.11:01
thomasboimahno blocker11:01
thomasboimahACTION done11:01
jelknerzOnny: you and i are on for dinner 4 pm on sunday, 9/6, yes?11:02
svayeYesterday I attended the NSTI workshop,and it was wonderful. We got to meet new people and interact about next systems teach-ins. I am going to visit my grandma today after the meeting. NO blockers11:02
zOnnyjelkner: yes, that works11:02
jelknerjkollie and svaye, you three did a great job presenting what you're doing!11:03
jelknerplease say hi to mr. cooper for me!11:03
svayeAlright jelkner 11:03
smohamudThis past week I setup the Intro to JS class and taught 3 of them. Interfaced with CJS/Stephen regarding requirements. Reviewed and merged AMS-related code. Began looking through NSS spreadsheet and working on data-modeling document. 11:04
jkollieAlright jelkner, we were all excited when we saw you 11:04
jelknerthomasboimah: when are you moving?11:04
smohamudnot blocked11:04
thomasboimahNext month jelkner 11:04
jelknergot you11:04
jelkneri was going to ask how daniel is doing, since he isn't here today11:04
jelknersvaye: i've got my calendar open, can we plan a business meeting for next weekend?11:05
jkollieDaniel is doing well, we met at the office yesterday. jelkner 11:05
jelknerok11:05
svayejelkner, I think daniel went to visit is grandma yesterday evening and spent the night there.11:05
jelknerwe talked yesterday about meeting next saturday after our stand up11:05
jelkneris that good for you?11:05
jelknergot you svaye, thanks!11:06
svayejelkner, I thought you said friday11:06
jelknerok11:06
jelknerfriday works for me too11:06
jelknerlet me add it to my calendar now11:06
svayeAlright11:06
jelknerbtw. one of the really nice things about visiting with you in Liberia this Summer is that now i can picture daniel's grandmother's house, and imagine him there visiting with her :-)11:07
jelknersince i got to do that11:07
mulbahGood morning to all sorry I'm join late my Internet was giving problem11:07
jelknerhello mulbah 11:07
jelkneri have a favor to ask everyone11:08
jelknerplease excuse me from monday's meeting11:08
mulbahokay jeff11:08
jelknerit will be my first day with students11:08
jelknerand i'll be scrambling to get ready11:08
jelknerso the next stand up i will attend will be wednesday11:08
jkollieOkay jelkner 11:08
svayeNo problem jkollie 11:09
jelknerthanks madam president!11:09
smohamudnp Jelkner11:09
svayeit's okay jelkner 11:09
thomasboimahall good jelkner 11:09
jelkneranything else before i god?11:09
jelknergo11:09
jelknerlol11:09
smohamudZonny - are you available today or tomorrow for an NSS Data Definitions / Modeling meeting?11:09
smohamudAll are welcome, too.11:09
svayejelkner, you said we were gonna discuss the NTSI workshop today11:10
smohamudMy bad Zonny11:10
smohamudI read your update late... No worries.11:10
smohamudIf you need to...11:10
zOnnysmohamud: we can do it today11:10
smohamudBig move!11:11
smohamudFL huh...11:11
zOnnysmohamud: no worries, I will be here 7 days so will be starting on monday my exploration11:11
smohamudBetter weather.\11:11
jelkneryes, what did you think of it?11:12
zOnnyjelkner: me?11:12
jelknersvaye: and, did attending help you better understand what you need to do?11:13
smohamudOk, sounds good. Let's see when Tony's available. Will be tricky because I'm waiting for jet-lagged sibling to wake up, they arrived at apartment today. 11:13
jelknerno zOnny, jkollie and smohamud ;-)11:13
smohamudThe sooner the better...11:13
jelknerbtw all, a little irc trick that can be helpful11:13
svayejelkner, the workshop was wonderful, from what I've gather it's important for us to decide on a topic of discussion11:14
jelknerhexchat tab completes nicks, and color codes them11:14
jelknerso you can actually learn to carry on multiple conversations at the same time if you tag the people you are addressing11:14
jelknermy bad for not tagging svaye and jkollie 11:14
jelknerwhich confused zOnny 11:14
svayeThat was the question they asked the most jelkner 11:14
jelknersvaye: what was the question?11:15
jelknersvaye: i'm not following11:15
svayejelkner, the workshop was wonderful, from what I've gather, it's important for us to decide on a topic of discussion11:16
jelknersvaye: i think jkollie answered that pretty well11:16
smohamudI'm really glad you both enjoyed it!11:17
jkolliejelkner: The workshop was very much educating, there was a lot of experiences that was shared 11:17
smohamudThanks for the updates11:17
jelknersvaye and jkollie: the purpose of our teach-in is to both inform and gather information from the community about the school we would like to build, yes?11:17
jelknerthat's what jkollie said yesterday11:17
svayejelkner, yes11:18
jelknerso now what we need to figure out is how to best do that11:18
jkollie+1 jelkner 11:18
jelknersvaye and jkollie: i really liked how you (and james) mentioned that one of your take aways from the workshop was the importance of culture11:19
jelkneryou want an event that is both educational and fun11:19
jelknerjames has experience organizing events11:19
jelknerjkollie and svaye: what will be your next step?11:20
jelknerwe should see if we can involve mr. zawolo in this discussion too11:20
jelkneri have a few questions i left you with when i was there:11:21
jkollieOur next steps is to start looking for organization and people who are interested in this, jelkner 11:21
jelkner1. What is the legal structure an NGO needs to have to own "community land" on which a school can be build?11:21
jelkner2. How can we form such an organization?11:22
jelknergreat jkollie 11:22
jelkneryou need someone on your team with legal knowledge11:22
svayejelkner: we need to find a way to get people attracted to the building of the school, like what sets us apart from other schools that have been built, and what is the message we are carrying?11:22
jelkneryes, svaye 11:22
jelknerbut i think we are much further along in the "why" of what we are trying to do than the "how"11:23
jelknerso we will certainly need to continue bringing the message to the community11:23
jelknerthat's the purpose of the teach-in, i think11:23
jkollieExactly 11:24
jelknerbut before that, we need to solve the "how" part11:24
jelknerworking backwards11:24
jelkner1. To build a school you need land11:24
jelkner2. To get land you need an "owner"11:24
jelkner3. In the solidarity economy, the "owner" needs to be collective, not individual11:25
jelkner4. Such a "collective owner" will be some kind of legal entity11:25
svayejelkner: I don't know if this helps or not, but my dad has access to the lawyer of the school he works for. I could asked him to get some legal advice for us11:25
jelknersvaye: ask everyone you think might be able to help11:25
jelknerplease11:25
zOnnynetworking11:25
jelkner+1`11:26
jelknerwe are both networking and information gathering11:26
jelknerand we need to move with deliberate speed, since 2 years will pass quickly and we have a lot to do if our goal is to break ground by then11:26
jelknerjkollie and svaye: anything else you need from me?11:27
svayejelkner: I am good11:28
jelknerjkollie?11:28
jkollie-1 for me 11:28
jelknersweet11:28
jelknersuch a joy to work with you! this is fun!!11:28
jelknerokie dokie, dear comrades, until next wednesday then11:28
zOnnyjelkner: thanks for sending the finantial email11:28
smohamudSee you Wed comrade11:28
jkollieTake care jelkner !11:29
svayeHave a wonderful weekend jelkner 11:29
zOnnyjelkner: quick question11:29
jelkneroops zOnny 11:29
jelknerwe have one more ToDo11:29
jelkneri almost forgot! :-(11:29
zOnnyjelkner: Invoicing?11:29
jelknerwe need to bill ARTraffic11:29
jelknercan i call you to talk about that?11:29
zOnnyjelkner: very important11:29
zOnnyjelkner: our weakness is always being that11:30
jelkner+111:30
jelknerzOnny: i'm so glad you help keep us on top of that11:30
zOnnyjelkner: sure11:30
jelknersince you and i are keenly aware of our weakness in this11:30
jelknerok zOnny, i'll call you after i take a 5 minute break11:31
zOnnyjelkner: we need to fix it our we are goign to sink11:31
jelkner+111:31
jelknera BIG +111:31
jelknerand we will zOnny 11:31
zOnnyjelkner: talk to you later then11:31
jelknerok everyone, thanks and see you next wednesday11:31
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zOnnyalright team!11:32
zOnnyhow is everyone doing11:32
thomasboimahTeam i can not be able to stay on the hexchat for today, i want to get my laundry done, all of my clothes are dirty. Can you please excuse me from the hexchat today please. zOnny i have access to the clj website server and i added your ssh public key so you can be able to ssh in: ssh zOnny@173.255.234.15211:32
thomasboimah*cjs11:33
zOnnythomasboimah: thanks for the update11:33
thomasboimahIf their any tasks for me it can be place here in the log i will check it 11:34
thomasboimah*is11:34
zOnnyACTION is attenting a call from Jeff BRB11:35
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smohamudSorry about that comrades, wanted to get back to client email rq11:38
smohamudGood!11:38
smohamudhow're you?11:39
smohamudThomas, enjoy your Saturday :)11:39
smohamudAnd good luck with those errands.11:39
svayeHave a wonderful weekend everyone11:44
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zOnnyACTION is back12:19
zOnnysorry team, I just have a long conversation with Jeff12:20
zOnnygabriel_jetro: good morning12:21
zOnnymulbah: good morning 12:21
gabriel_jetroShower 12:22
gabriel_jetroHow're you zOnny 12:22
zOnnyDo I need to shower?12:22
zOnnyhow is the Jetro team doing12:23
zOnnygabriel_jetro: How is the updates to LibreOrganize going?12:23
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zOnnysmohamud: Anything you want to talk about?12:24
gabriel_jetroCool, I did jetrowebdev and secosle12:24
zOnnygabriel_jetro: that is a good progress12:24
zOnnygabriel_jetro: did you run into any Issues?12:25
gabriel_jetroI was also making update to the jetrowebdev website by making the blog page mobile 12:25
zOnnygabriel_jetro: got you12:25
zOnnygabriel_jetro: Isn't friendly enought?12:26
gabriel_jetroNo, the server is running python3, I only did update with the secosole by 12:26
zOnnygabriel_jetro: you know that the jetro Blog is another separate django app?12:26
gabriel_jetroYeah 12:26
gabriel_jetroBut it's fine I only need to push than Thomas review it12:27
zOnnygabriel_jetro: by saying python3? you meant python3.12? or python3.4?12:27
zOnnygabriel_jetro: did you figure out what python version is the mayfirst running?12:28
gabriel_jetro3.12 I guess 12:28
gabriel_jetroThe mayfirst server running the same putho12:28
gabriel_jetroPython3.q12:29
gabriel_jetro3.1212:29
zOnnygabriel_jetro: I'm not friendly with guesses 12:29
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zOnnygabriel_jetro:I will check it out12:30
gabriel_jetroCool 12:30
gabriel_jetroI'll check and update you tomorrow in our stand up meeting 12:30
zOnnyit is Python 3.13.5 running in the secosol server12:32
zOnnyI'm glad that mayfirst keep up to date their server12:32
zOnnygabriel_jetro: ok12:34
zOnnygabriel_jetro: I will not be at tomorrow's stand up meeting but I did mention Jeff I will try to be at the Wednesday meeting12:34
gabriel_jetroOkay, so how's your eye?12:35
gabriel_jetroPray for speedy recovery 12:35
zOnnygabriel_jetro: my eye is good now, thanks for asking12:36
zOnnygabriel_jetro: I'm not home right now, but I will be as much active as possible to answer any questions you have12:38
zOnnygabriel_jetro: I will be in the chat12:38
zOnnygabriel_jetro: As for now my main goal is to make libreOrganize easy to run with one git clone12:39
zOnnyhaving the libreorganize theme and the LibreOrganize project separately is not the best practice12:39
zOnnygabriel_jetro: they don't know each other and other developers have to figure it out how to make it run with theme repo12:40
zOnnyjust to give you a quick update, we will end up running in a lot of issues12:41
zOnnyI already saw with the Claudia Jones School project12:41
zOnnyClaudia Jones School have LibreOrganize, theme, and custom_apps 12:41
zOnnythis means another layer that adds up to scaling complexity12:42
gabriel_jetroYh the webinar 12:42
zOnnyin order to fix this complexity of not knowing which additional apps one needs to install, I have come to the conclusion of using git submodules12:44
zOnnyhttps://git-scm.com/book/en/v2/Git-Tools-Submodules12:44
zOnnywe need a repo that pins everything12:45
zOnnynot sure how aware everyone is about git submodules12:47
zOnnybut this way will help us keep things more organized, unless anyone has a better way to do it12:47
zOnnyMy proposal is one site repo per deployment12:48
zOnnyIt is a proposal I will bring to the next meeting but I want you to be aware of what is coming12:48
gabriel_jetroOkay 12:49
zOnnygabriel_jetro: that is what developers do, find the best way for others to work with12:49
zOnnyif you or the Jetro team have an alternative, I would like to hear it12:50
gabriel_jetroCool 12:50
zOnnyI'm open to learn other ways to do it12:50
zOnnyalright that's all from me12:51
zOnnyI'm actually not home, I'm going for an 1hr to go and have a breakfast12:52
gabriel_jetroOkay, understood 12:52
zOnnyIs there any questions?12:53
gabriel_jetroHave a great day I'll be here working 12:53
zOnnygabriel_jetro: great12:53
zOnnysmohamud: Do you have any question?12:53
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zOnnyYoo!19:01
reslzOnny: hey are you still here?19:22
zOnnyyup19:28
reslsweet19:28
reslzOnny: meet in Jitsi again or signal call?19:28
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