| svaye | Good morning scooper | 12:20 | 
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| scooper | Good morning svaye | 12:20 | 
| svaye | How are you | 12:21 | 
| scooper | I m better than yesterday svaye | 12:21 | 
| svaye | Blessed God | 12:22 | 
| svaye | agenda | 12:22 | 
| jelkner | Good morning scooper and svaye | 12:44 | 
| scooper | Good morning jelkner | 12:45 | 
| svaye | Good morning Jeff | 12:45 | 
| jelkner | scooper, did you see my email to the Supe? | 12:45 | 
| scooper | I said yes yesterday...... | 12:46 | 
| jelkner | I didn't see your response yesterday. | 12:46 | 
| jelkner | What do you think? | 12:46 | 
| scooper | It was wonderful | 12:47 | 
| jelkner | Did you have a chance to talk to the Superintendent? | 12:47 | 
| scooper | yes | 12:47 | 
| scooper | the day we planned of meeting him | 12:47 | 
| scooper | I spoke with him concerning his absence from the meeting | 12:48 | 
| scooper | him turn up to join the meeting that day but | 12:48 | 
| scooper | we had already dismissed at that particular movement | 12:48 | 
| jelkner | I think it will make more sense for you to be the glue that holds this process together | 12:49 | 
| jelkner | you have more easy access to both me and him | 12:49 | 
| jelkner | so as long as you feel we are "on the same page" | 12:49 | 
| jelkner | we're ok | 12:49 | 
| scooper | I know | 12:49 | 
| jelkner | Good morning fkoikoi | 12:50 | 
| scooper | the supe is really appreciate about the effort you are applying Jeff | 12:50 | 
| jelkner | BigBrother is not working yet | 12:50 | 
| jelkner | tmickelson has so many important tasks | 12:50 | 
| jelkner | and is the only one with the skills at present to do them | 12:50 | 
| jelkner | he needs to get the SECOSOL website deployed first | 12:51 | 
| jelkner | but i am hoping we can get BigBrother working by next Saturday | 12:51 | 
| jelkner | So we can use it for agendas for our weekly meetings | 12:51 | 
| jelkner | right now, since we are working hard to keep NOVA Web Development in business | 12:51 | 
| jelkner | which means taking care of our customers | 12:52 | 
| jelkner | who are loosing patience with us | 12:52 | 
| jelkner | we really need to focus on that | 12:52 | 
| jelkner | and we will use that irc channel for business communication | 12:52 | 
| jelkner | One exception though | 12:52 | 
| jelkner | don't mess with Kevin | 12:52 | 
| jelkner | he is a volunteer | 12:52 | 
| jelkner | we'll let him use any channel he wants | 12:53 | 
| fkoikoi | Jeff are you saying that accict will be working before saturday so we can create agenda here | 12:53 | 
| jelkner | that is my hope | 12:53 | 
| jelkner | it depends if tmickelson can make it work | 12:53 | 
| jelkner | someday, you and i will be able to fix it, fkoikoi | 12:54 | 
| fkoikoi | that will be great | 12:54 | 
| jelkner | is is a Python program | 12:54 | 
| jelkner | i talked to tmickelson yesterday about getting a look at the source code | 12:54 | 
| jelkner | i've never looked at it before | 12:54 | 
| scooper | Jeff | 12:54 | 
| jelkner | Spencer | 12:54 | 
| scooper | I thought of asking too?? | 12:54 | 
| scooper | It's possible myself too can Look at the source code... | 12:55 | 
| jelkner | why of course | 12:55 | 
| scooper | since it's a python program | 12:55 | 
| jelkner | it is free software, my friend, anyone can see the source! ;-) | 12:55 | 
| jelkner | but i need to find out where it is | 12:55 | 
| jelkner | i'm old and slow | 12:55 | 
| jelkner | the young folks move so much faster than me | 12:55 | 
| jelkner | so i'll ask tmickelson to show me where it is kept | 12:56 | 
| jelkner | and then i'll share that with you | 12:56 | 
| scooper | Before you leave I need five minutes of your time please..... | 12:56 | 
| scooper | OK | 12:56 | 
| jelkner | now scooper | 12:56 | 
| jelkner | let's not wait | 12:56 | 
| tboimah | Good morning everyone | 12:56 | 
| jelkner | Good day, tboimah | 12:57 | 
| jelkner | tboimah, are you feeling better? | 12:57 | 
| scooper | good morning tboimah | 12:57 | 
| tboimah | Yeah | 12:57 | 
| jelkner | i have been worried about you | 12:57 | 
| tboimah | Thank you very much | 12:57 | 
| jelkner | Glad to hear you are feeling better | 12:57 | 
| tboimah | sure:-) | 12:58 | 
| jelkner | fkoikoi, we couldn't automate the agenda process, but what is on your mind for our agenda today? | 12:59 | 
| jelkner | i would like to talk about the education process | 12:59 | 
| jelkner | briefly at least | 12:59 | 
| BigBrother | svaye : jelkner : scooper : tboimah : fkoikoi | 13:00 | 
| BigBrother | Tick Tock! | 13:00 | 
| BigBrother | It's 13:00 UTC o'clock and NOVA Web Development's meeting is starting. | 13:00 | 
| jelkner | oh my | 13:00 | 
| jelkner | tmickelson fixed it already! | 13:00 | 
| jelkner | it was broke yesterday | 13:00 | 
| fkoikoi | I saw that we added two items on the agenda | 13:00 | 
| fkoikoi | !agenda | 13:00 | 
| jelkner | they were probably not registered | 13:00 | 
| jelkner | it was broken yesterday | 13:01 | 
| jelkner | let's go without it | 13:01 | 
| jelkner | what is your plan, fkoikoi? | 13:01 | 
| fkoikoi | okay | 13:01 | 
| fkoikoi | Discuss SECOSOL website deployment (added by jelkner) | 13:03 | 
| mulbah | &agenda | 13:03 | 
| fkoikoi | Who should represent us at USFWC annual meeting https://info.usworker.coop/civicrm/event/info ? (added by jelkner) | 13:03 | 
| jelkner | fkoikoi, wrong meeting | 13:03 | 
| jelkner | let me explain to y'all what is going on | 13:03 | 
| fkoikoi | but you wanted that to be discuss | 13:03 | 
| jelkner | i'm not sure this is going to work, but i hope it will | 13:03 | 
| jelkner | we have a business here in Virginia | 13:03 | 
| jelkner | NOVA Web Development | 13:04 | 
| jelkner | it is a student run web development worker cooperative | 13:04 | 
| jelkner | it has several paying customers who want it to do work for them | 13:04 | 
| jelkner | but, the 4 people who have been running the business for the last few years | 13:04 | 
| jelkner | Stefan, Adrian, Louis, and Natalia | 13:05 | 
| jelkner | have all moved on to other things | 13:05 | 
| jelkner | so i needed to step in and decide if i should close down the business | 13:05 | 
| jelkner | or if there were students interested in taking it over | 13:06 | 
| jelkner | there are students interested in taking it over | 13:06 | 
| jelkner | and we are scrambling now to get the business together | 13:06 | 
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| jelkner | so the #novawebdevelopment irc channel will now be used by them | 13:06 | 
| jelkner | fkoikoi, those two agenda items you just listed are for our 10 am (1 pm your time) meeting | 13:07 | 
| jelkner | i will need to leave here to attend that meeting | 13:07 | 
| jelkner | we need to move teaching and learning discussions to this channel | 13:07 | 
| fkoikoi | I understand now Jeff | 13:07 | 
| jelkner | so that the other one can be used for business | 13:07 | 
| jelkner | great | 13:08 | 
| jelkner | so, fkoikoi, what is on *our* agenda? | 13:08 | 
| fkoikoi | at first I wasn't aware so I just added one item on the agenda after seeing that you already have items there | 13:08 | 
| fkoikoi | but it is well understood now Jeff | 13:09 | 
| jelkner | sorry for not being clearer earlier | 13:09 | 
| jelkner | but let's move on | 13:09 | 
| jelkner | scooper, you have an item yes? | 13:10 | 
| scooper | I m not too sure Jeff | 13:10 | 
| scooper | But if you need an update on our activities and willing to explain | 13:11 | 
| scooper | Ok | 13:12 | 
| jelkner | you said you needed 5 minutes | 13:12 | 
| scooper | from the python group | 13:12 | 
| jelkner | i'm confused | 13:12 | 
| scooper | yes previously | 13:12 | 
| fkoikoi | so for today meeting items on our agenda are: 1. asking Jeff if he can be able to give me multiple task that will help improve my studies | 13:12 | 
| scooper | I said I need 5 minutes of your time before you leave | 13:12 | 
| jelkner | so why not now? | 13:12 | 
| jelkner | otherwise, we will get to 10 and i will have to go | 13:13 | 
| scooper | it about mcss | 13:13 | 
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| scooper | that discussion is intent for you and me | 13:13 | 
| jelkner | can we talk by Signal? | 13:13 | 
| scooper | need your approval before are proceed in that direction | 13:13 | 
| scooper | OK | 13:13 | 
| jelkner | or email? | 13:13 | 
| scooper | Signal | 13:14 | 
| scooper | than email can follow later | 13:14 | 
| jelkner | fkoikoi_, i will be giving assignments now every other school day | 13:14 | 
| jelkner | https://ict.gctaa.net/sections/csc221/goals/ | 13:14 | 
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| jelkner | but your question does provide another opportunity to talk about how successful technologists learn | 13:15 | 
| jelkner | the most important skill you can learn is... | 13:15 | 
| jelkner | To learn "how to learn" | 13:15 | 
| jelkner | If you wait for me (or anyone) to lead you "step-by-step" | 13:16 | 
| jelkner | Then sadly, in technology, you will never get very far | 13:16 | 
| jelkner | there is *way too much* to learn | 13:16 | 
| jelkner | and it all changes so fast | 13:16 | 
| jelkner | all the time it is changing | 13:16 | 
| jelkner | so, you need to combine both systematic learning with exploration and project learning | 13:17 | 
| jelkner | i'll be looking at your git repos | 13:18 | 
| jelkner | https://codeberg.org/fkoikoi/CSC221 | 13:18 | 
| jelkner | fkoikoi_, i don't see the assignments here | 13:18 | 
| jelkner | i first gave students Sheet 2: Turning the Tables | 13:19 | 
| fkoikoi_ | I was fixing a little problem with my git password but it is settle now | 13:19 | 
| jelkner | https://www.openbookproject.net/pybiblio/gasp/course/2-tables.html | 13:19 | 
| scooper | Freena to me learning this require self motivation, and also learn to teach yourself new every day..... | 13:19 | 
| jelkner | I let students work on that for a week together in class | 13:20 | 
| jelkner | Then I provided a "solution" (there are so many possible solutions, but this is one) | 13:20 | 
| jelkner | https://ict.gctaa.net/sections/csc221/goals/resources/mathquiz.pdf | 13:20 | 
| jelkner | What I am looking for from you, fkoikoi_ | 13:21 | 
| jelkner | is knowing that you have done everything i ask | 13:21 | 
| jelkner | and then, i hope to talk to you when you come with very specific questions | 13:21 | 
| tboimah | Guys, dcammue said i should let your know that he is attending his sister graduation ceremony. So he will not be here today. | 13:21 | 
| fkoikoi_ | okay, I am going to push my assignment after the meeting | 13:21 | 
| jelkner | maybe something like, jelkner, how do the low and high variables work in this program? | 13:22 | 
| jelkner | why did you use them? | 13:22 | 
| jelkner | i have a quiz i'm going to give students on Monday | 13:22 | 
| jelkner | i told scooper i could send it to him | 13:22 | 
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| jelkner | svaye, i have a quiz for the web class too | 13:23 | 
| jelkner | that i will give on tuesday | 13:23 | 
| jelkner | btw, mulbah and tboimah, you are doing a great job! | 13:24 | 
| mulbah | Thank Jeff | 13:24 | 
| jelkner | I can tell whenever I talk to Kevin how much fun he is having working with you. | 13:24 | 
| tboimah | Thanks Jeff | 13:24 | 
| svaye | when are we wring the quiz jelkner | 13:24 | 
| jelkner | svaye, i don't know the best way to do this | 13:25 | 
| jelkner | i print out the quiz on paper | 13:25 | 
| jelkner | and give it to my students here in Virginia | 13:25 | 
| jelkner | i can't do that with you | 13:25 | 
| jelkner | so we need another plan | 13:25 | 
| svaye | you can send the pdf to scooper and he will print it out for us | 13:25 | 
| jelkner | i can do that | 13:25 | 
| jelkner | but then i won't be able to see what you write on it ;-) | 13:26 | 
| jelkner | i have a better idea | 13:26 | 
| jelkner | i'll put it in Markdown in my git repo immediately after i give it to the students here | 13:26 | 
| jelkner | then you can put your solutions in your git repo | 13:27 | 
| jelkner | and i can see them there | 13:27 | 
| mulbah | We are putting all of our time to become the best sysadmin for our tame | 13:27 | 
| jelkner | and you are succeeding mulbah | 13:27 | 
| svaye | that will be great Jeff\ | 13:27 | 
| jelkner | great | 13:27 | 
| jelkner | i meet with fkoikoi_ each morning in this channel at 11 am your time | 13:28 | 
| jelkner | i'll put the URL here as soon as it is available | 13:28 | 
| svaye | Jeff can you please send me the link to our lesson | 13:28 | 
| jelkner | https://ict.gctaa.net/sections/webdev/goals/ | 13:29 | 
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| svaye | thanks jeff | 13:29 | 
| jelkner | sure, svaye | 13:30 | 
| jelkner | glad to do it! | 13:30 | 
| jelkner | ok, scooper and i need to talk by phone | 13:30 | 
| jelkner | is there anything else before we go? | 13:30 | 
| fkoikoi_ | we are going to make you proud Jeff | 13:31 | 
| jelkner | i know it, fkoikoi_ | 13:31 | 
| jelkner | i am really looking forward to coming back to Monrovia next Summer | 13:31 | 
| jelkner | last thing, you are all welcome to hang out on the #novawebdev channel whenever you can | 13:32 | 
| jelkner | i am hoping you will virtually meet the Virginia students there | 13:33 | 
| fkoikoi_ | okay | 13:33 | 
| jelkner | The Supe talked about a "sister school" program | 13:33 | 
| jelkner | let's help him make that happen | 13:33 | 
| jelkner | It is also part of Cooperative Principle 6: Cooperation among Cooperatives | 13:34 | 
| jelkner | https://www.ica.coop/en/cooperatives/cooperative-identity | 13:35 | 
| svaye | Have a nice day everyone I have a graduation to attend | 13:35 | 
| jelkner | 6. Cooperation among Cooperatives | 13:35 | 
| jelkner | Cooperatives serve their members most effectively and strengthen the cooperative movement by working together through local, national, regional and international structures. | 13:35 | 
| jelkner | Bye! | 13:35 | 
| fkoikoi_ | sure | 13:36 | 
| svaye | ACTION signs off for the day | 13:36 | 
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| fkoikoi_ | ACTION sign out | 13:42 | 
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| BigBrother | Available commands: !add, !agenda, !help, !remove | 14:24 | 
| tmickelson | agenda | 14:24 | 
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| tmickelson | help agenda | 14:30 | 
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| tmickelson | :agenda | 14:34 | 
| tmickelson | :agenda test | 14:37 | 
| tmickelson | :agenda test | 14:45 | 
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| BigBrother | Available commands: !add, !agenda, !help, !remove | 15:02 | 
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