IRC log of #jetrowebdev for Saturday, 2023-09-16

svayeGood morning scooper12:20
scooperGood morning svaye12:20
svayeHow are you12:21
scooperI m better than yesterday svaye12:21
svayeBlessed God 12:22
svayeagenda12:22
jelknerGood morning scooper and svaye 12:44
scooperGood morning jelkner12:45
svayeGood morning Jeff12:45
jelknerscooper, did you see my email to the Supe?12:45
scooperI said yes yesterday......12:46
jelknerI didn't see your response yesterday.12:46
jelknerWhat do you think?12:46
scooperIt was wonderful12:47
jelknerDid you have a chance to talk to the Superintendent?12:47
scooperyes12:47
scooperthe day we planned of meeting him12:47
scooperI spoke with him concerning his absence from the meeting12:48
scooperhim turn up to join the meeting that day but12:48
scooperwe had already dismissed at that particular movement 12:48
jelknerI think it will make more sense for you to be the glue that holds this process together12:49
jelkneryou have more easy access to both me and him12:49
jelknerso as long as you feel we are "on the same page"12:49
jelknerwe're ok12:49
scooperI know12:49
jelknerGood morning fkoikoi 12:50
scooperthe supe is really appreciate about the effort you are applying Jeff12:50
jelknerBigBrother is not working yet12:50
jelknertmickelson has so many important tasks12:50
jelknerand is the only one with the skills at present to do them12:50
jelknerhe needs to get the SECOSOL website deployed first12:51
jelknerbut i am hoping we can get BigBrother working by next Saturday12:51
jelknerSo we can use it for agendas for our weekly meetings12:51
jelknerright now, since we are working hard to keep NOVA Web Development in business12:51
jelknerwhich means taking care of our customers12:52
jelknerwho are loosing patience with us12:52
jelknerwe really need to focus on that12:52
jelknerand we will use that irc channel for business communication12:52
jelknerOne exception though12:52
jelknerdon't mess with Kevin12:52
jelknerhe is a volunteer12:52
jelknerwe'll let him use any channel he wants12:53
fkoikoiJeff are you saying that accict will be working before saturday so we can create agenda here12:53
jelknerthat is my hope12:53
jelknerit depends if tmickelson can make it work12:53
jelknersomeday, you and i will be able to fix it, fkoikoi 12:54
fkoikoithat will be great12:54
jelkneris is a Python program12:54
jelkneri talked to tmickelson yesterday about getting a look at the source code12:54
jelkneri've never looked at it before12:54
scooperJeff12:54
jelknerSpencer12:54
scooperI thought of asking too??12:54
scooperIt's possible myself too can Look at the source code...12:55
jelknerwhy of course12:55
scoopersince it's a python program12:55
jelknerit is free software, my friend, anyone can see the source! ;-)12:55
jelknerbut i need to find out where it is12:55
jelkneri'm old and slow12:55
jelknerthe young folks move so much faster than me12:55
jelknerso i'll ask tmickelson to show me where it is kept12:56
jelknerand then i'll share that with you12:56
scooperBefore you leave I need five minutes of your time please.....12:56
scooperOK12:56
jelknernow scooper 12:56
jelknerlet's not wait12:56
tboimahGood morning everyone12:56
jelknerGood day, tboimah 12:57
jelknertboimah, are you feeling better?12:57
scoopergood morning tboimah12:57
tboimahYeah 12:57
jelkneri have been worried about you12:57
tboimahThank you very much12:57
jelknerGlad to hear you are feeling better12:57
tboimahsure:-)12:58
jelknerfkoikoi, we couldn't automate the agenda process, but what is on your mind for our agenda today?12:59
jelkneri would like to talk about the education process12:59
jelknerbriefly at least12:59
BigBrothersvaye : jelkner : scooper : tboimah : fkoikoi13:00
BigBrotherTick Tock!13:00
BigBrotherIt's 13:00 UTC o'clock and NOVA Web Development's meeting is starting.13:00
jelkneroh my13:00
jelknertmickelson fixed it already!13:00
jelknerit was broke yesterday13:00
fkoikoiI saw that we added two items on the agenda13:00
fkoikoi!agenda13:00
jelknerthey were probably not registered13:00
jelknerit was broken yesterday13:01
jelknerlet's go without it13:01
jelknerwhat is your plan, fkoikoi?13:01
fkoikoiokay13:01
fkoikoi Discuss SECOSOL website deployment (added by jelkner)13:03
mulbah&agenda13:03
fkoikoi Who should represent us at USFWC annual meeting https://info.usworker.coop/civicrm/event/info ? (added by jelkner)13:03
jelknerfkoikoi, wrong meeting13:03
jelknerlet me explain to y'all what is going on13:03
fkoikoibut you wanted that to be discuss13:03
jelkneri'm not sure this is going to work, but i hope it will13:03
jelknerwe have a business here in Virginia13:03
jelknerNOVA Web Development13:04
jelknerit is a student run web development worker cooperative13:04
jelknerit has several paying customers who want it to do work for them13:04
jelknerbut, the 4 people who have been running the business for the last few years13:04
jelknerStefan, Adrian, Louis, and Natalia13:05
jelknerhave all moved on to other things13:05
jelknerso i needed to step in and decide if i should close down the business13:05
jelkneror if there were students interested in taking it over13:06
jelknerthere are students interested in taking it over13:06
jelknerand we are scrambling now to get the business together13:06
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jelknerso the #novawebdevelopment irc channel will now be used by them13:06
jelknerfkoikoi, those two agenda items you just listed are for our 10 am (1 pm your time) meeting13:07
jelkneri will need to leave here to attend that meeting13:07
jelknerwe need to move teaching and learning discussions to this channel13:07
fkoikoiI understand now Jeff13:07
jelknerso that the other one can be used for business13:07
jelknergreat13:08
jelknerso, fkoikoi, what is on *our* agenda?13:08
fkoikoiat first I wasn't aware so I just added one item on the agenda after seeing that you already have items there13:08
fkoikoibut it is well understood now Jeff13:09
jelknersorry for not being clearer earlier13:09
jelknerbut let's move on13:09
jelknerscooper, you have an item yes?13:10
scooperI m not too sure Jeff13:10
scooperBut if you need an update on our activities and willing to explain13:11
scooperOk13:12
jelkneryou said you needed 5 minutes13:12
scooperfrom the python group13:12
jelkneri'm confused13:12
scooperyes previously13:12
fkoikoiso for today meeting items on our agenda are: 1. asking Jeff if he can be able to give me multiple task that will help improve my studies13:12
scooperI said I need 5 minutes of your time before you leave13:12
jelknerso why not now?13:12
jelknerotherwise, we will get to 10 and i will have to go13:13
scooperit about mcss13:13
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scooperthat discussion is intent for you and me13:13
jelknercan we talk by Signal?13:13
scooperneed your approval before are proceed in that direction13:13
scooperOK13:13
jelkneror email?13:13
scooperSignal13:14
scooperthan email can follow later13:14
jelknerfkoikoi_, i will be giving assignments now every other school day13:14
jelknerhttps://ict.gctaa.net/sections/csc221/goals/13:14
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jelknerbut your question does provide another opportunity to talk about how successful technologists learn13:15
jelknerthe most important skill you can learn is...13:15
jelknerTo learn "how to learn"13:15
jelknerIf you wait for me (or anyone) to lead you "step-by-step"13:16
jelknerThen sadly, in technology, you will never get very far13:16
jelknerthere is *way too much* to learn13:16
jelknerand it all changes so fast13:16
jelknerall the time it is changing13:16
jelknerso, you need to combine both systematic learning with exploration and project learning13:17
jelkneri'll be looking at your git repos13:18
jelknerhttps://codeberg.org/fkoikoi/CSC22113:18
jelknerfkoikoi_, i don't see the assignments here13:18
jelkneri first gave students Sheet 2: Turning the Tables13:19
fkoikoi_I was fixing a little problem with my git password but it is settle now  13:19
jelknerhttps://www.openbookproject.net/pybiblio/gasp/course/2-tables.html13:19
scooperFreena to me learning this require self motivation, and also learn to teach yourself new every day.....13:19
jelknerI let students work on that for a week together in class13:20
jelknerThen I provided a "solution" (there are so many possible solutions, but this is one)13:20
jelknerhttps://ict.gctaa.net/sections/csc221/goals/resources/mathquiz.pdf13:20
jelknerWhat I am looking for from you, fkoikoi_ 13:21
jelkneris knowing that you have done everything i ask13:21
jelknerand then, i hope to talk to you when you come with very specific questions13:21
tboimahGuys, dcammue said i should let your know that he is attending his sister graduation ceremony. So he will not be here today.13:21
fkoikoi_okay, I am going to push my assignment after the meeting13:21
jelknermaybe something like, jelkner, how do the low and high variables work in this program?13:22
jelknerwhy did you use them?13:22
jelkneri have a quiz i'm going to give students on Monday13:22
jelkneri told scooper i could send it to him13:22
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jelknersvaye, i have a quiz for the web class too13:23
jelknerthat i will give on tuesday13:23
jelknerbtw, mulbah and tboimah, you are doing a great job!13:24
mulbahThank Jeff13:24
jelknerI can tell whenever I talk to Kevin how much fun he is having working with you.13:24
tboimahThanks Jeff13:24
svayewhen are we wring the quiz jelkner13:24
jelknersvaye, i don't know the best way to do this13:25
jelkneri print out the quiz on paper13:25
jelknerand give it to my students here in Virginia13:25
jelkneri can't do that with you13:25
jelknerso we need another plan13:25
svayeyou can send the pdf to scooper and he will print it out for us13:25
jelkneri can do that13:25
jelknerbut then i won't be able to see what you write on it ;-)13:26
jelkneri have a better idea13:26
jelkneri'll put it in Markdown in my git repo immediately after i give it to the students here13:26
jelknerthen you can put your solutions in your git repo13:27
jelknerand i can see them there13:27
mulbahWe are putting all of our time to become the best sysadmin for our tame13:27
jelknerand you are succeeding mulbah 13:27
svayethat will be great Jeff\13:27
jelknergreat13:27
jelkneri meet with fkoikoi_ each morning in this channel at 11 am your time13:28
jelkneri'll put the URL here as soon as it is available13:28
svayeJeff can you please send me the link to our lesson 13:28
jelknerhttps://ict.gctaa.net/sections/webdev/goals/13:29
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svayethanks jeff13:29
jelknersure, svaye 13:30
jelknerglad to do it!13:30
jelknerok, scooper and i need to talk by phone13:30
jelkneris there anything else before we go?13:30
fkoikoi_we are going to make you proud Jeff13:31
jelkneri know it, fkoikoi_ 13:31
jelkneri am really looking forward to coming back to Monrovia next Summer13:31
jelknerlast thing, you are all welcome to hang out on the #novawebdev channel whenever you can13:32
jelkneri am hoping you will virtually meet the Virginia students there13:33
fkoikoi_okay13:33
jelknerThe Supe talked about a "sister school" program13:33
jelknerlet's help him make that happen13:33
jelknerIt is also part of Cooperative Principle 6: Cooperation among Cooperatives13:34
jelknerhttps://www.ica.coop/en/cooperatives/cooperative-identity13:35
svayeHave a nice day everyone I have a graduation to attend13:35
jelkner6. Cooperation among Cooperatives13:35
jelknerCooperatives serve their members most effectively and strengthen the cooperative movement by working together through local, national, regional and international structures.13:35
jelknerBye!13:35
fkoikoi_sure13:36
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tmickelson!help14:24
BigBrotherAvailable commands: !add, !agenda, !help, !remove14:24
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