| svaye | Good morning jelkner | 11:44 |
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| scooper | Good morning jelkner and svaye | 11:47 |
| svaye | Good morning scooper | 11:48 |
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| jelkner | Good morning svaye and scooper! | 11:51 |
| jelkner | As soon as all participants arrive, let's get this meeting started. | 11:51 |
| jelkner | I only have a few minutes, and we have important things to discuss / decide | 11:52 |
| scooper | They will soon be there | 11:52 |
| jkollie | Greetings everyone | 11:52 |
| jelkner | Greetings jkollie | 11:52 |
| dcammue | Good day Jetroweb and good morning Jeff | 11:55 |
| scooper | Good morning d c nike | 11:56 |
| freena | Good morning jelkner | 11:57 |
| jelkner | Good morning freena! | 11:57 |
| mulbah_ | Hello everyone | 11:58 |
| gabriel | Greetings everyone. | 11:59 |
| jelkner | We are only missing Thomas | 11:59 |
| jelkner | Let's start | 11:59 |
| jelkner | I only have about 20 minutes | 11:59 |
| jelkner | since I need to teach after that | 11:59 |
| jelkner | so let's go | 12:00 |
| jelkner | firstly, thank you all for coming! | 12:00 |
| jelkner | i am very happy that you are now in communication with mr. zawolo | 12:00 |
| jelkner | his support is very important to the success of our project | 12:00 |
| jelkner | now, you are asking me to send another stippend so that you can get the Jetro Web office | 12:01 |
| jelkner | i am willing to do that, but i have conditions, and that's what i want to discuss here | 12:01 |
| freena | We are listening | 12:01 |
| gabriel | +1 | 12:02 |
| jelkner | firstly, from now on, i will only send a new stipend if you provide a Next Cloud spreadsheet showing what was done with the last one | 12:02 |
| jelkner | i've been saying you need to transition into a functioning business this year | 12:02 |
| jelkner | and basic accounting is a big part of that | 12:02 |
| jelkner | it serves at least two important purposes: | 12:03 |
| jelkner | 1. it helps you all learn to think about finances and how to manage them | 12:03 |
| jelkner | 2. it provides transparency we can use with potential donors in the future | 12:03 |
| jelkner | the first one is most critical | 12:03 |
| jelkner | for example, what happened to the extra $500 i sent last time? | 12:04 |
| jelkner | i won't have funds just "disappear" | 12:04 |
| jelkner | if that happens, i won't send more | 12:04 |
| jelkner | make sense? | 12:04 |
| scooper | +1 | 12:04 |
| gabriel | +1 | 12:04 |
| jkollie | +1 | 12:04 |
| svaye | +1 | 12:05 |
| dcammue | +1 | 12:05 |
| freena | +1 | 12:05 |
| jelkner | great | 12:05 |
| jelkner | now, let's figure out how much SJC needs to send | 12:05 |
| jelkner | how much do we need for UoPeople fees? | 12:05 |
| jelkner | how much do we need for the office? | 12:06 |
| jelkner | i know about the monthly stipends. is there anything else? | 12:06 |
| jelkner | i need those numbers now | 12:06 |
| jelkner | so i can prepare a transfer | 12:06 |
| jelkner | who will learn to use Jetro's NextCloud? | 12:07 |
| jelkner | so that you can create the spreadsheet i'm asking for | 12:07 |
| jelkner | ACTION done | 12:07 |
| freena | jelkner: | 12:07 |
| jelkner | freena, | 12:07 |
| freena | dcammue: and I was working on the report yesterday which consist of | 12:08 |
| gabriel | I suggest shallow and dcammue to do that since they're practicing and learning business. | 12:08 |
| jelkner | +1 | 12:08 |
| jelkner | but gabriel, they need to do it soon! | 12:08 |
| jelkner | that's why i kept saying "be like Thomas" | 12:08 |
| jelkner | he delivers | 12:08 |
| freena | how the $500LD was spent and the money that SJC needs to send | 12:08 |
| jelkner | i want to see that from the rest of you too | 12:09 |
| dcammue | I will take the initiative fir that | 12:09 |
| gabriel | +1 | 12:09 |
| jelkner | excellent | 12:09 |
| jelkner | dcammue, can you also answer my question about the UoPeople fees? | 12:09 |
| jelkner | since it is you and svaye that need that | 12:10 |
| jelkner | are you in classes this term? | 12:10 |
| dcammue | +1 | 12:10 |
| jelkner | so how much do you need to cover that cost? | 12:10 |
| dcammue | The UoPeople fees $480 | 12:11 |
| jelkner | times 2, yes? | 12:11 |
| jelkner | is svaye taking classes now too? | 12:11 |
| dcammue | For the past cost we did | 12:11 |
| jelkner | got you | 12:11 |
| jelkner | is $480 the total? | 12:12 |
| jelkner | for both of you? | 12:12 |
| svaye | The last time we didn't pay so we need to pay before registration | 12:12 |
| scooper | No | 12:12 |
| dcammue | So if you want to pay for this new cost, then is another $480 then which total will be $960 | 12:12 |
| jelkner | i don't understand | 12:12 |
| scooper | it will be 960 | 12:12 |
| jelkner | got it | 12:12 |
| jelkner | that's what i thought | 12:12 |
| scooper | for past term and present term | 12:12 |
| svaye | For last term and this upcoming term is 960 | 12:13 |
| jelkner | did UoPeople let you register without paying? | 12:13 |
| dcammue | For past and present is $960 | 12:13 |
| jelkner | you need to let me know what is happening | 12:13 |
| svaye | We can't register without paying jelkner | 12:13 |
| jelkner | so now i am more confused svaye! | 12:13 |
| jelkner | dcammue just said he is registered | 12:13 |
| jelkner | so how is that possible? | 12:14 |
| dcammue | Only if is your first time registering and now having fees for them | 12:14 |
| svaye | We have the pay the fees for last term before we can register for thr next term | 12:14 |
| jelkner | svaye, dcammue you two need to tell me in detail what is going on | 12:14 |
| jelkner | yes, so since you didn't pay | 12:14 |
| jelkner | you are not registered yet, correct? | 12:14 |
| svaye | Yes | 12:14 |
| jelkner | and if that is correct, why did dcammue just tell me you are? | 12:14 |
| jelkner | you need to be clear with me | 12:14 |
| jelkner | we can only continue to build trust if you tell me what is really going on | 12:15 |
| svaye | We are not registered jelkner | 12:15 |
| jelkner | so, dcammue and svaye, send me an email today | 12:15 |
| jelkner | telling me your plan | 12:15 |
| jelkner | i know know the amount | 12:15 |
| jelkner | you need to register for the next term | 12:15 |
| jelkner | i want to know: | 12:15 |
| jelkner | 1. when does that term start? | 12:16 |
| dcammue | We are not registered yet | 12:16 |
| jelkner | 2. which classes to you plan to take? | 12:16 |
| jelkner | send me that email today! | 12:16 |
| svaye | Alright | 12:16 |
| jelkner | ok, next item | 12:16 |
| jelkner | the office | 12:16 |
| jelkner | how much do you need? | 12:16 |
| dcammue | The office is $1800 for one year | 12:17 |
| jelkner | and you have to pay the whole year up front? | 12:17 |
| jelkner | wow, that makes it harder | 12:17 |
| jelkner | the total is getting too big | 12:17 |
| jelkner | this is why we needed to meet today | 12:17 |
| jelkner | let me talk to mr. zawolo | 12:17 |
| jelkner | maybe he can help with this | 12:18 |
| dcammue | Just pay the one and after the year ends, then if you want to pay you pay. Or not , then fine | 12:18 |
| jelkner | i don't understand, dcammue | 12:18 |
| scooper | Jeff | 12:18 |
| jelkner | scooper, | 12:18 |
| scooper | in liberia | 12:18 |
| scooper | when you are paying your rent | 12:18 |
| scooper | it's whole year | 12:19 |
| scooper | we don't pay base on monthly here | 12:19 |
| jelkner | ok, i understand | 12:19 |
| jkollie | The last time I was in a meeting with scooper he offered to help with a place for the main time | 12:19 |
| scooper | jkollie, | 12:19 |
| jelkner | so you are asking for >>> 2000 + 960 + 1800 | 12:19 |
| jkollie | scooper: | 12:19 |
| scooper | the team rejected that offer | 12:20 |
| dcammue | We done with that topic jkollie | 12:20 |
| scooper | so let stick to this | 12:20 |
| scooper | +1 | 12:20 |
| jelkner | $4760 | 12:20 |
| scooper | +1 | 12:20 |
| jelkner | scooper, i'm just a teacher!!! | 12:20 |
| dcammue | +1 | 12:20 |
| jkollie | Okay, I'm sorry | 12:20 |
| jelkner | where do you think i'm going to get all that? | 12:20 |
| scooper | jelkner, | 12:20 |
| scooper | if you done have | 12:20 |
| scooper | can I give my little advice here?? | 12:20 |
| jelkner | i don't | 12:21 |
| jelkner | i have almost no savings | 12:21 |
| jelkner | i make a decent salary | 12:21 |
| jelkner | but it would take me months to earn that much extra | 12:21 |
| jelkner | so we have a challenge | 12:21 |
| scooper | what is it?? | 12:21 |
| jelkner | how do we plan to get where we want to get with the resources we have? | 12:22 |
| dcammue | jelkner: | 12:22 |
| jelkner | i need to go | 12:22 |
| scooper | I offer the team a change to stay at my old place still JUly | 12:22 |
| jelkner | let me talk with mr. zawolo | 12:22 |
| jelkner | yes, scooper | 12:22 |
| dcammue | First of all we need the rent First over all items here | 12:22 |
| jelkner | that could help a lot | 12:22 |
| jelkner | and i'll tell you what | 12:23 |
| dcammue | jelkner: | 12:23 |
| jelkner | i can send the promised $2960 | 12:23 |
| jelkner | and maybe a little extra | 12:23 |
| scooper | than July when we are in a better shape we can handle our own rent | 12:23 |
| jelkner | that you all can start to save | 12:23 |
| jelkner | i will want to see the Jetro bank statement each month | 12:23 |
| jelkner | to see if you can learn to save | 12:23 |
| jelkner | to manage your resources | 12:23 |
| jelkner | you can't do business if you can't do that | 12:24 |
| jelkner | then we could build up the saving a bit at a time | 12:24 |
| jelkner | until you can afford an office | 12:24 |
| jelkner | in the mean time, you will have to learn to do work and deliver results! | 12:24 |
| jelkner | i have to go | 12:24 |
| jelkner | can we meet tomorrow at the same time? | 12:24 |
| scooper | +1 | 12:25 |
| dcammue | So what is our conclusion here | 12:25 |
| svaye | +1 | 12:25 |
| jelkner | where is Thomas | 12:25 |
| jkollie | +1 | 12:25 |
| gabriel | +1 | 12:25 |
| scooper | Can we discuss in here if jeff leave??? | 12:25 |
| jelkner | it would be great to have him here too | 12:25 |
| jelkner | sure | 12:25 |
| jelkner | please do | 12:25 |
| dcammue | 2960 send when? | 12:25 |
| jelkner | then i can read the transcript | 12:25 |
| jelkner | as soon as we decide dcammue | 12:25 |
| jelkner | ACTION signs off | 12:25 |
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| gabriel | So? | 12:26 |
| dcammue | Guys | 12:26 |
| scooper | Everyone still there?? | 12:26 |
| jkollie | I'm here | 12:26 |
| gabriel | Sure | 12:26 |
| freena | +1 | 12:26 |
| dcammue | +1 | 12:27 |
| svaye | Yes | 12:27 |
| scooper | I have a thought I will like to share | 12:27 |
| jkollie | Please go ahead | 12:27 |
| gabriel | +1 | 12:27 |
| dcammue | Let's go scooper | 12:27 |
| scooper | first and forth most thanks to everyone who had been in the constant search of place | 12:27 |
| scooper | from the look of things | 12:27 |
| scooper | jeff is only able to offer the amount of 3000 or below | 12:28 |
| scooper | Here is it | 12:28 |
| scooper | We need to priority some thing here | 12:28 |
| scooper | 1. we either rent the place and let go there other | 12:29 |
| scooper | or we let go the renting of the place and manage with what we have still JUly??? | 12:29 |
| scooper | How do you all see that??? | 12:29 |
| freena | That's right, we need to sacrifice | 12:29 |
| dcammue | This is what I was thinking of scooper | 12:30 |
| gabriel | Can I say something? | 12:30 |
| scooper | sure | 12:30 |
| dcammue | We will let go the stipend for this month and rent the area | 12:30 |
| freena | It's either we used the money for the office space and Uopeople fees, give the rest as a little transportation or | 12:30 |
| freena | We managed scooper place till July | 12:31 |
| scooper | If you are making this decision that about the other | 12:31 |
| jkollie | I suggest we managed what we have till july | 12:31 |
| freena | Go ahead gabriel | 12:31 |
| scooper | who just sacrifice what we just did??? | 12:31 |
| dcammue | But let hear from Mr. Zawolo first maybe he will help with this | 12:31 |
| svaye | I would say let's go with what freena said | 12:32 |
| scooper | Help with what? you think manage Zawolo will help with the finance?? | 12:32 |
| freena | We need to sacrifice | 12:32 |
| scooper | *Mr Zawolo | 12:32 |
| svaye | Jeff is willing to send 2960 that can cover the rent and the uopeople fees | 12:32 |
| svaye | I believe we have 500USD in the account | 12:33 |
| gabriel | The reason why the team didn't decide to stay at your old place is that we don't want time to come when the lady requests a fund for using the space but I suggest we use the space at your old place if and only there will be no fund for the grace period we'll be using it for instead of us renting the place which we don't have resources for transportation and other means | 12:33 |
| dcammue | Till July jkollie , is too long and no meeting place we need to work and get more then what We are getting. | 12:33 |
| freena | than we can get the $400USD from Morris for furniture | 12:33 |
| scooper | What ever decision you guys are thinking about concerning the renting right now is not a good idea | 12:33 |
| freena | Why scooper ?? | 12:34 |
| scooper | let manage will the place I'm trying secure. because those who join the susu will not be happen if they done get what they deserve | 12:34 |
| svaye | Mr Cooper you said we have to make sacrifices, we have to look at the bigger picture now | 12:35 |
| scooper | But if it's fine with them we can proceed in that direction | 12:35 |
| scooper | svaye, | 12:35 |
| scooper | if it was your term to eat will you make this decision??? | 12:35 |
| scooper | be real? | 12:36 |
| dcammue | The people who are last to get their, will move to the next month so is the same here | 12:36 |
| svaye | I would make that decision scooper | 12:36 |
| dcammue | For everyone benefit | 12:36 |
| svaye | The place you're talking about is not yours anymore , we won't have access to it as we please | 12:36 |
| gabriel | Let's put it this way Freena, we can't run into what we're not prepared for, we can let go renting of the place in the main time, because it comes with plenty of needs, let's take for instance for those of us in sinkor and at the same time studying, what will be our way forward, think wisely. | 12:37 |
| dcammue | But if others are saying or want to go to 24st no problem | 12:37 |
| svaye | Our friends were leaving from far distances to meet, so I think we can make that same sacrifice | 12:38 |
| gabriel | +1 | 12:39 |
| dcammue | Since your guys been meet to scooper place for the past time. What are some projects that your work on through the week while scooper was in control of the place beside Saturday? | 12:39 |
| svaye | If we rent this place now we can be sure that we have a place for an entire year, and we won't have to worry about where to meet | 12:40 |
| freena | Oh, I forgot about the susu. I'm sorry guys | 12:40 |
| dcammue | So we need to hear from Mr. Zawolo if he can help with this or we use the stipend for the rent | 12:41 |
| scooper | dcammue, | 12:41 |
| svaye | dcammue: can I ask you something | 12:41 |
| dcammue | freena: just for that susu yet | 12:41 |
| dcammue | Yes svaye | 12:41 |
| scooper | Mr. Zawolo will not provide funding on this trust me. | 12:41 |
| svaye | How much is in the bank account right now | 12:41 |
| gabriel | But svaye, we should know the destination for the place is way too far will we have transportation to get there? | 12:42 |
| dcammue | Approximately 500 | 12:42 |
| scooper | So if we decide to make the sacrifice let do it but when outsider start to complaining about their susu money | 12:42 |
| dcammue | Or lesser than 500 | 12:42 |
| scooper | I will not have anything to say about it | 12:42 |
| dcammue | Who all going to eat this month? | 12:43 |
| svaye | If Jeff sends the 2960, and we rent the space and pay our fees we will be left with 200 | 12:43 |
| scooper | Jackson | 12:43 |
| dcammue | Sorry next mo | 12:43 |
| scooper | and one of Jetro web member | 12:43 |
| freena | Guys, what are we going to do about Morris??? | 12:43 |
| dcammue | Sorry next Month | 12:43 |
| freena | svaye: | 12:44 |
| dcammue | We can talk with Jackson and he will understand | 12:44 |
| svaye | Yes freena | 12:44 |
| freena | Can you please end what you were saying | 12:45 |
| svaye | I will research on the uopeople fees, I don't think we have to pay the 960 at once | 12:45 |
| scooper | Can we move to the next discussion freena posted | 12:45 |
| scooper | this is a standup meeting | 12:46 |
| jkollie | +1 | 12:46 |
| dcammue | Okay | 12:47 |
| scooper | Guys | 12:47 |
| scooper | before discussion about Morris. | 12:47 |
| dcammue | +1 | 12:47 |
| scooper | It mean we have decided to rent the place right?? | 12:48 |
| scooper | because Jeff meeting with us tomorrow | 12:48 |
| svaye | The last time we talked with Mr Zawolo he said he was gonna engage Morris for the money. | 12:48 |
| scooper | and might be expecting a final and one voice saying from us all...... | 12:48 |
| svaye | I think we should have a group call with Mr Zawolo this evening and ask for his advice | 12:49 |
| jkollie | Not from me, but if that's what the team want | 12:50 |
| svaye | But I go with paying the rent and fees | 12:50 |
| dcammue | Your are not answering scooper question oo my people | 12:50 |
| jkollie | I just did | 12:50 |
| dcammue | I agree to pay the rent | 12:51 |
| scooper | For me I advice we manage the place I m proposing since jeff done have such amount yet | 12:51 |
| scooper | and satisfy those who join the susu | 12:51 |
| scooper | that is my stand | 12:51 |
| dcammue | So let vote on this | 12:52 |
| scooper | Everyone is free to take their side | 12:52 |
| dcammue | Send + 1 or -1 | 12:52 |
| scooper | Can we do this quick | 12:52 |
| scooper | Some of us need to go | 12:53 |
| dcammue | So we can be done with this | 12:53 |
| scooper | done understand dcammue | 12:53 |
| dcammue | +1 | 12:53 |
| gabriel | I go with foregoing the space for rent since it comes with a lot of expensive | 12:53 |
| scooper | what you mean by send + or -1. what those it represent | 12:53 |
| freena | Can I say something?? | 12:53 |
| svaye | What are we saying +1 to dcammue | 12:53 |
| dcammue | Just send +1 gabriel | 12:53 |
| dcammue | Yes or no/ agree or not agree | 12:54 |
| svaye | Agre to what dcammue | 12:54 |
| scooper | Please write in a clear approach so people can understand | 12:54 |
| scooper | Agree to what?? | 12:54 |
| freena | We are talking about voting but nobody is saying anything about the $400USD | 12:54 |
| svaye | freena: | 12:55 |
| freena | which will also help in whatever decisions we make | 12:55 |
| freena | Yes svaye | 12:55 |
| dcammue | That is different topics from this one | 12:55 |
| svaye | Mr Zawolo said he was gonna engage Morris and get the money from him | 12:55 |
| freena | No svaye | 12:55 |
| svaye | Why no freena | 12:56 |
| dcammue | We need ro do that svaye if we can't the Mr. Zawolo will do | 12:56 |
| freena | MR. Zawolo said we should try to contact Morris again and let him his response | 12:56 |
| svaye | Alright | 12:56 |
| dcammue | I am tired now guys | 12:56 |
| dcammue | Anything the people want is OK | 12:57 |
| dcammue | See you guys later | 12:57 |
| dcammue | I will just watch your conversation | 12:57 |
| svaye | You can't leave like that dcammue we have to make a decision | 12:57 |
| dcammue | But other doesn't want to make the sacrifice | 12:58 |
| scooper | dcammue, | 12:58 |
| gabriel | I'm not happy with renting space right now, regardless of your decision, because transportation is a major issue for commuting. | 12:58 |
| scooper | everyone will not consent to you plan | 12:58 |
| dcammue | They say we should manage what we have and we have nothing | 12:59 |
| scooper | that is why we are establishing a voting processing | 12:59 |
| freena | Dcammue and svaye | 13:00 |
| scooper | I think I will just continue my normal way of doing things. watch you guys do what is right. | 13:00 |
| freena | scooper: | 13:00 |
| scooper | What so ever decision your come up with I m in support of it | 13:00 |
| scooper | ACTION signing out | 13:00 |
| freena | Let's us all look at the advantage and disadvantage of the two situation | 13:01 |
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| jkollie | Daniel, everyone wants to make sacrifice, but when you are making a decision you have to look at what happens next | 13:02 |
| svaye | I understand what everyone is saying so I support whatever you guys say | 13:02 |
| freena | If we get the stipend and don't rent the place, it will be used for wifi, transportation and other things while we are meeting at Mr. Cooper former place till July but | 13:02 |
| freena | If we rent the place, we should take into consideration that we don't have money now for furniture and that's why we need to put more focus on getting the $400USD | 13:03 |
| gabriel | Renting a space isn't necessarily a bad idea, but the distance is quite far, which will make travel expenses significant. Since Scooper is trying to secure a location for us, we can go with that option for now until July, as we have a lot to accomplish. | 13:04 |
| jkollie | scooper: made it clear that we can meet two to three times a week and that our only challenge is going to be the zogo | 13:05 |
| svaye | Alright | 13:05 |
| freena | Guys, I don't think this matter needs a long discussion. Let's look at the two sides and make the rightful decision because we don't have the money now to buy furniture | 13:05 |
| freena | gabriel: | 13:05 |
| svaye | This meeting is taking long we have to make a decision | 13:06 |
| gabriel | Yes? | 13:06 |
| jkollie | So guys let's conclude | 13:06 |
| gabriel | freena | 13:06 |
| freena | Don't talk about distance because everyone needs to give their time and sacrifice | 13:06 |
| gabriel | Ohkay... | 13:06 |
| freena | This is my suggestion guys: | 13:06 |
| gabriel | So who has different suggestions aside from freena? | 13:08 |
| freena | Since we don't have money for furniture now and we can't move into the space without providing materials, I suggest we go with scooper idea while putting more effort to get the money from Morris or we let this matter be on hold for now till we can here from Mr. Zawolo | 13:09 |
| gabriel | My battery is low I gotta go.. | 13:09 |
| jkollie | Guys I need to go, I have a guest | 13:09 |
| freena | Hmm | 13:10 |
| jkollie | freena: | 13:10 |
| freena | You guys will just leave the conversation, your just go ahead | 13:10 |
| freena | Since we can't decide as a team | 13:10 |
| freena | Have a nice day guys | 13:11 |
| jkollie | That's was what I said, we take scooper old place or | 13:11 |
| gabriel | For me, I have said we let renting the space go for now.. | 13:11 |
| jkollie | We go through the voting process | 13:12 |
| jkollie | And whatever comes out, we go for it | 13:13 |
| jkollie | freena: | 13:13 |
| gabriel | mulbah: | 13:14 |
| freena | Yes jkollie | 13:15 |
| svaye | Can we please bring this meeting to a close | 13:15 |
| freena | The person that call for the meeting already left svaye | 13:16 |
| freena | So I think the meeting end | 13:16 |
| svaye | So is the meeting over now | 13:16 |
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