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| mjsir911 | What was that presentation where the guy does wierd things with programming languages like `True + 1` or something | 08:21 |
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| jelkner | mjsir911: https://www.destroyallsoftware.com/talks/wat | 08:38 |
| jelkner | mjsir911: please remind me to ask why aeava.org isn't working? | 09:08 |
| jelkner | at our meeting this evening. | 09:08 |
| jelkner | aeava.net is working, but .org should work as well. | 09:08 |
| mjsir911 | I'll look into it | 09:24 |
| mjsir911 | @jelkner, I have no idea, what webfactional account is it hosted on? | 09:25 |
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| jelkner | mjsir911: they have their own webfactional account | 09:26 |
| jelkner | hold on.. | 09:26 |
| mjsir911 | What time will the meeting start? I might be able to rig up something | 09:26 |
| jelkner | mjsir911: rig something? what do you mean? | 09:30 |
| jelkner | German can handle this one. I was just asking you to remind me. | 09:30 |
| mjsir911 | The bot is going to evolve with neccessity, and a good reminding system is a good idea | 09:31 |
| mjsir911 | I can make it dump out anything you say `!remindme aeava` during meetings :D | 09:31 |
| jelkner | good systems are hard - they need to be both effective and unobtrusive | 09:31 |
| ubuntourist | For chuckles: Are /exec commands standard IRC commands? Or is this some trickery only provided by Konversation? What does your IRC client do with "/exec uptime"? Or "/exec cmd ls -l /tmp"? | 09:31 |
| * ubuntourist types /exec ls -l /tmp | 09:32 | |
| mjsir911 | i can do that in irssi | 09:32 |
| mjsir911 | thats cool | 09:32 |
| mjsir911 | ls /etc | 09:32 |
| mjsir911 | oops | 09:32 |
| ubuntourist | cmd: total 44 | 09:33 |
| ubuntourist | cmd: srwxr-xr-x 1 kjcole kjcole 0 Apr 4 08:56 Wallch Local Socket Server | 09:33 |
| ubuntourist | cmd: drwx------ 2 kjcole kjcole 4096 Apr 4 08:56 akonadi-kjcole.te50Iz | 09:33 |
| ubuntourist | cmd: drwxr-xr-x 2 root root 4096 Apr 4 08:35 aucat | 09:33 |
| ubuntourist | cmd: -rw------- 1 kjcole kjcole 0 Apr 4 08:56 config-err-Es9kVM | 09:33 |
| ubuntourist | cmd: drwx------ 2 kjcole kjcole 4096 Apr 4 09:05 firefox_kjcole | 09:33 |
| ubuntourist | cmd: drwxr-xr-x 2 zookeeper zookeeper 4096 Apr 4 08:35 hsperfdata_zookeeper | 09:33 |
| ubuntourist | cmd: srwxrwxr-x 1 kjcole kjcole 0 Apr 4 08:56 kwallet5_kjcole.socket | 09:33 |
| ubuntourist | cmd: drwxrwxr-x 2 root root 4096 Apr 4 08:35 leapd | 09:33 |
| ubuntourist | cmd: -rw-r--r-- 1 prey prey 4 Apr 4 08:35 prey.pid | 09:33 |
| ubuntourist | cmd: drwx------ 2 kjcole kjcole 4096 Apr 4 08:56 pulse-PKdhtXMmr18n | 09:33 |
| ubuntourist | cmd: -rw-r----- 1 kjcole kjcole 0 Apr 4 08:56 qipc_sharedmemory_WallchMemoryf724665a52020f8bb5d5586bc47447258cb07058 | 09:33 |
| ubuntourist | cmd: -rw-r----- 1 kjcole kjcole 0 Apr 4 08:56 qipc_sharedmemory_qtox45bdc9c0c458c8a25fc32de3a5f6d795f60b53f9 | 09:33 |
| ubuntourist | cmd: -rw-r----- 1 kjcole kjcole 0 Apr 4 08:56 qipc_systemsem_WallchMemoryf724665a52020f8bb5d5586bc47447258cb07058 | 09:33 |
| ubuntourist | cmd: -rw-r----- 1 kjcole kjcole 0 Apr 4 08:56 qipc_systemsem_qtox45bdc9c0c458c8a25fc32de3a5f6d795f60b53f9 | 09:33 |
| ubuntourist | cmd: drwx------ 3 root root 4096 Apr 4 08:35 systemd-private-6f0963ec2bd347b3b607ab4d47aeefa6-colord.service-NPuwWd | 09:33 |
| ubuntourist | cmd: drwx------ 3 root root 4096 Apr 4 08:35 systemd-private-6f0963ec2bd347b3b607ab4d47aeefa6-rtkit-daemon.service-aX6V0L | 09:33 |
| ubuntourist | cmd: drwx------ 3 root root 4096 Apr 4 08:35 systemd-private-6f0963ec2bd347b3b607ab4d47aeefa6-tor@default.service-iA63VD | 09:33 |
| ubuntourist | cmd: -rw-rw-r-- 1 kjcole kjcole 0 Apr 4 08:56 unity_support_test.0 | 09:33 |
| ubuntourist | cmd: -rw------- 1 kjcole kjcole 103 Apr 4 08:56 xauth-1000-_0 | 09:33 |
| * ubuntourist actually types /exec cmd ls -l /tmp | 09:33 | |
| ubuntourist | (I assume it showed everyone the result of that, not just me.) | 09:34 |
| mjsir911 | wait is yours printing on the screen? | 09:34 |
| mjsir911 | how does that work?! | 09:35 |
| jelkner | mjsir911: I need to figure out how to get the kvm machine i just setup onto the bridged network | 09:35 |
| mjsir911 | You gotta ask owen for that, I still don't know | 09:35 |
| jelkner | will do | 09:35 |
| ubuntourist | Sorry to distract. Though it may be leveraged in some way for logging or other IRC control, which is why I'm curious. | 09:36 |
| ubuntourist | (Don't try it with something that floods IRC, as the powers that be get unhappy, and I imagine logger-bots won't be thrilled either.) | 09:37 |
| mjsir911 | when I do exec it just prints it to my screen, not the irc log | 09:38 |
| * mjsir911 does `/exec ls /tmp` | 09:38 | |
| mjsir911 | you see that? | 09:39 |
| ubuntourist | But when I did it, you could see it? | 09:39 |
| mjsir911 | yup | 09:39 |
| ubuntourist | you're missing the cmd | 09:39 |
| ubuntourist | I had to type /exec cmd ls -l /tmp | 09:39 |
| mjsir911 | i just gotta type in exec | 09:39 |
| mjsir911 | /bin/sh: cmd: command not found | 09:40 |
| ubuntourist | So, it seems "/exec" is somewhat standard, but the Konversation IRC client enhances it. And maybe it's "client standard" rather than "IRC standard". Too bad. | 09:40 |
| ubuntourist | https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Internet_Relay_Chat_commands | 09:43 |
| ubuntourist | The /exec is not among them. | 09:43 |
| ubuntourist | And it appears Konversation lets me write Python scripts that inject stuff https://userbase.kde.org/Konversation/Scripts/Scripting_guide | 09:46 |
| jelkner | mjsir911: i figured it out | 09:46 |
| jelkner | my vm is on our network, yay! | 09:46 |
| mjsir911 | Oh thats good | 09:47 |
| ubuntourist | Konversation's specific implementation of it (and how to write your own new commands) https://docs.kde.org/stable5/en/extragear-network/konversation/konvi-cmds.html | 09:51 |
| mjsir911 | What time is the meeting going to be today? | 09:51 |
| ubuntourist | And with that, I'll stop. For now. | 09:51 |
| jelkner | mjsir911: do you know how to message people on github? | 09:51 |
| mjsir911 | gitter | 09:51 |
| mjsir911 | I think | 09:52 |
| jelkner | I want to try to make contact with this group: https://github.com/vapublicaccessproject | 09:53 |
| ubuntourist | jelkner - eh? You mean, like an e-mail message that shows up somewhere on github? | 09:53 |
| ubuntourist | jelkner - That link says, specifically "This organization has no public members. You must be a member to see who’s a part of this organization." | 09:54 |
| jelkner | like sending a communication to: https://github.com/benpsweet | 09:54 |
| mjsir911 | Meeting time?!?! anyone? 7:00? | 09:54 |
| jelkner | yes, 7 pm | 09:55 |
| mjsir911 | ty | 09:55 |
| ubuntourist | jelkner - I must be missing something: I tried https://github.com/jelkner and I can see your profile (including e-mail, but no way to "message" you in any direct way.) | 09:57 |
| jelkner | ubuntourist: perhaps there is no way. | 09:58 |
| jelkner | that's what i'm asking | 09:58 |
| jelkner | since benpsweet doesn't provide and email | 09:58 |
| ubuntourist | jelkner - Ah. | 09:58 |
| * mjsir911 is afk | 09:58 | |
| ubuntourist | jelkner - there's this not so hot solution (for an individual) - https://stackoverflow.com/questions/12686545/how-to-leave-a-message-for-a-github-com-user | 10:06 |
| ubuntourist | jelkner - However, it won't work for your example Ben Sweet, as it requires the user to have actually USED GitHub (for something other than consumption). | 10:07 |
| jelkner | thx, ubuntourist. i just used an old fashion device (a phone) to call vpap, and they answered, so i'll start there | 10:16 |
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| remindBot | I am here to remind you of things at 19:00 on tuesdays. Use me by typing in `!remind <msg>` | 10:44 |
| jelkner | !remind ask why aeava.org isn't working. | 10:49 |
| remindBot | will print ask why aeava.org isn't working. at 2017-04-04 19:00:00 | 10:49 |
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| jelkner | excellent, louie made it here. | 11:43 |
| jelkner | however briefly ;-) | 11:43 |
| * jelkner sent rena and louie instructions | 11:43 | |
| jelkner | and will talk to victor and amanuel in person | 11:43 |
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| ubuntourist | Grabbin' a BikeShare... Goin' offline... | 12:31 |
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| replaceafill | mjsir911, you around? | 13:29 |
| mjsir911 | Hi, yea ill be leaving in 1 min | 13:29 |
| mjsir911 | need anything quick? ill be back in a half hour | 13:29 |
| replaceafill | mjsir911, no, we can talk later | 13:30 |
| mjsir911 | k, cya | 13:30 |
| replaceafill | :) | 13:30 |
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| mjsir911 | Hi, yea @replaceafill what's up? | 13:52 |
| jelkner | replacefill, so gooood to see you! | 13:53 |
| jelkner | mjsir911 has been busy, but he needs your help | 13:54 |
| replaceafill | mjsir911, jelkner, just a sec | 13:56 |
| replaceafill | mjsir911, jelkner, back | 14:08 |
| mjsir911 | wb | 14:08 |
| replaceafill | i got my old job back today... sigh... | 14:09 |
| replaceafill | was doing some set up tasks | 14:09 |
| mjsir911 | Ok, can you help with the apache/wsgi configuration? | 14:09 |
| replaceafill | mjsir911, i was reviewing the wsgi setup for the logger | 14:09 |
| replaceafill | yeah | 14:09 |
| replaceafill | we want it under /irclogs, correct? | 14:09 |
| mjsir911 | yea | 14:10 |
| mjsir911 | on the machine tho its webapps/irc/ and the docs are in webapps/irc/htdocs/logs | 14:10 |
| replaceafill | why is this needed? | 14:11 |
| replaceafill | <Directory /home/novawebdev/webapps/irc/htdocs> | 14:11 |
| mjsir911 | well webapps/irc is a virtual root with an apache director and htdocs was the default location to put stuff in | 14:11 |
| mjsir911 | oh looking at the apache configuration | 14:13 |
| mjsir911 | I think it needs a Directory to work | 14:14 |
| replaceafill | mjsir911, sorry, back | 14:40 |
| replaceafill | mjsir911, is you real.py script used somehow in the current setup? | 14:41 |
| mjsir911 | hi yea, I don't know how to configure apache, is there any way i could make the entire novawebdevelopment.org/irclogs redirect to one script | 14:41 |
| mjsir911 | yea that is my logger bot--- gotta give it a better name | 14:41 |
| replaceafill | yeah, a better name would be good :) | 14:42 |
| replaceafill | i'm trying to understand what's from logs2html and what's from the bot | 14:42 |
| mjsir911 | ok so the irclog2html package is logs2html | 14:43 |
| mjsir911 | theres also htdocs/wsgi.py which has the actuall application method | 14:43 |
| mjsir911 | and /bin/irclogserver is the execuatable that is being called if you do https://www.novawebdevelopment.org/irclogs/ | 14:44 |
| replaceafill | mjsir911, you still around? :) | 15:08 |
| mjsir911 | yea, whats up? | 15:08 |
| replaceafill | can you check the site | 15:08 |
| replaceafill | and the conf | 15:08 |
| replaceafill | site seems to work for me | 15:08 |
| replaceafill | about the conf | 15:09 |
| replaceafill | i commented most of it | 15:09 |
| replaceafill | you really don't need much wsgi configuration | 15:09 |
| replaceafill | like a group and processes | 15:09 |
| replaceafill | i mean, for the logs2html to work | 15:09 |
| replaceafill | you just need the location, in this case pointing to / | 15:09 |
| replaceafill | because webfaction already does the /irclogs redirection | 15:10 |
| replaceafill | because of how the website webapp is set up | 15:10 |
| mjsir911 | ok yea thanks ill look at the diff | 15:13 |
| mjsir911 | irclogs doesnt work but irclogs/ works | 15:13 |
| replaceafill | ah | 15:16 |
| replaceafill | new rewrite rule? | 15:16 |
| * replaceafill doesn't remember exactly how to fix the trail slash | 15:17 | |
| replaceafill | mjsir911, could you please take it from here? | 15:18 |
| replaceafill | (i mean, fix the trailing slash issue) | 15:18 |
| mjsir911 | This configuration is beyong me but ill give it a try | 15:18 |
| replaceafill | it should be just an alias or a rewrite rule | 15:19 |
| replaceafill | i can give it a shot after lunch too | 15:19 |
| replaceafill | mjsir911, good work and thanks for setting this up | 15:19 |
| replaceafill | btw | 15:19 |
| * replaceafill goes to get lunch, bb in ~1h | 15:19 | |
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| jelkner | !remind ask mjsir911 to fix the clock | 15:28 |
| remindBot | will print ask mjsir911 to fix the clock at 2017-04-04 19:00:00 | 15:28 |
| jelkner | amanuel: great to see you in our channel! | 15:28 |
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| jelkner | welcome, vjuarez! | 15:34 |
| amanuel | thanks | 15:35 |
| vjuarez | Yessssss!!!! I am here | 15:35 |
| amanuel | double check victor | 15:36 |
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| jelkner | cool, now we are ready for today's meeting (once everyone else joins us) | 15:47 |
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| mjsir911 | hey @replaceafill how did you get unaffiliated/replaceafill | 16:23 |
| mjsir911 | @ubuntourist how are u doin | 16:23 |
| replaceafill | mjsir911, you need to register your nick on freenode | 16:24 |
| replaceafill | and logging with the nickserv | 16:24 |
| mjsir911 | With nickserv or actual freenode? | 16:24 |
| mjsir911 | ubuntourist test | 16:24 |
| replaceafill | mjsir911, https://freenode.net/kb/answer/registration | 16:24 |
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| jelkner | hola, German! | 16:25 |
| jelkner | did you see the email from Ingrid? | 16:25 |
| jelkner | and also the email i sent to Elizabeth? | 16:25 |
| jelkner | everyone should register their nicks | 16:26 |
| jelkner | then you get to keep it | 16:26 |
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| German | Hello! | 16:28 |
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| replaceafill | hi German. jelkner asked you something, use http://novawebdevelopment.org/irclogs/ to see what it was | 16:30 |
| replaceafill | i know it's the hard way but you should get familiar with logs | 16:30 |
| German | Yes, I did Jeff | 16:31 |
| replaceafill | German, and here you can use nicks to refer to people | 16:32 |
| replaceafill | some clients will display those messages differently | 16:32 |
| German | How can I do that? | 16:32 |
| replaceafill | just write the nick of the person you're referring to | 16:32 |
| replaceafill | like | 16:32 |
| replaceafill | German, hello! | 16:33 |
| German | Like this. replaceafill | 16:33 |
| replaceafill | yep | 16:33 |
| German | ok | 16:33 |
| German | Yes, I did jelkner | 16:34 |
| jelkner | Excellent | 16:35 |
| jelkner | i told ingrid we would talk about the url issue tonight | 16:36 |
| jelkner | she is about to send out an email to all our members, and we need the website to work | 16:36 |
| jelkner | do you know what is wrong? | 16:36 |
| German | Im trying to see what's going on. jelkner | 16:37 |
| German | give me a sec | 16:37 |
| jelkner | got it, German. i don't mean to rush you ;-0 | 16:37 |
| German | it's ok man ;-) | 16:38 |
| mjsir911 | cat /tmp/steam_chrome_shmem_uid1024_spid467 | 16:41 |
| German | I just send an email to Ingrid, jelkner | 17:03 |
| ubuntourist | jelkner "git clone git@github.com:cmhedrick/NotesStep0.git" | 17:03 |
| jelkner | i saw it, German. Thx! | 17:04 |
| jelkner | what was the issue? | 17:05 |
| German | for some reason 'webfactional' changed the IP address, and the dns for aeava.org was configured with this IP: 50.97.173.23 | 17:09 |
| German | this is the new IP: 207.38.86.153 | 17:10 |
| German | We have to keep it in mind in the future. jelkner | 17:10 |
| German | or try to fix that | 17:11 |
| jelkner | Why didn't aeava.net break? | 17:12 |
| replaceafill | jelkner, aeava.net is redirected from godaddy to webfaction | 17:16 |
| replaceafill | i mean, dns resolution is done by webfaction | 17:16 |
| jelkner | got it. | 17:16 |
| replaceafill | jelkner, we should ask if they're using aeava.org emails for instance | 17:16 |
| jelkner | i bet webfaction notified us, and we missed it. | 17:16 |
| replaceafill | if they're only using it for www.*, we can make the same adjustment aeava.net uses | 17:17 |
| replaceafill | jelkner, i was looking for some explanation but it seems something sort of common | 17:17 |
| replaceafill | (they changing ips) | 17:17 |
| jelkner | i don't think so. | 17:17 |
| jelkner | i've had elkner.net and a host of others for a looooong time | 17:17 |
| replaceafill | ah ok | 17:18 |
| jelkner | and never had the ips change | 17:18 |
| ubuntourist | jelkner, the more informative "git clone git@github.com:ahirschberg/NotesDemoStepThrough.git" | 17:19 |
| ubuntourist | replaceafill, Speaking of GoDaddy... I may need some help there: In a non-NOVAWeb project (DC Books to Prisons), | 17:21 |
| replaceafill | ubuntourist, sure | 17:21 |
| ubuntourist | replaceafill, I've inherited (or maybe adopted) three domains registered on GoDaddy. | 17:21 |
| ubuntourist | replaceafill, Initially they were pointed to a Drupal site that got badly hacked. Then they were pointed at a GitHub Page (bla-bla.github.io) | 17:23 |
| ubuntourist | where bla-bla was someone's username. Now I want them to point to a GitHub page I set up, and I've apparently bollixed it up. | 17:23 |
| ubuntourist | Let me check now and see if my changes from this morning fixed that. If not, I'll ask how to proceed. (I have a tarball of the three | 17:24 |
| ubuntourist | site's DNS records.) | 17:24 |
| replaceafill | ubuntourist, ah ok | 17:24 |
| ubuntourist | replaceafill, Well. I'm completely lost. This is why I've never played with DNS. I'll send you the DNS records. | 17:37 |
| replaceafill | ubuntourist, ok | 17:37 |
| ubuntourist | replaceafill, I THINK the issue is somewhere with https://help.github.com/articles/troubleshooting-custom-domains/#github-repository-setup-errors | 17:38 |
| ubuntourist | replaceafill, "CNAME already taken" | 17:39 |
| ubuntourist | replaceafill, BUT... | 17:39 |
| ubuntourist | replaceafill, the guy who had previously pointed DNS to his github.io page says he undid all that this morning. | 17:40 |
| jelkner | German, we just got a reply from Elizabeth | 17:40 |
| jelkner | she wants the Endorsements page | 17:40 |
| ubuntourist | replaceafill, So, the CNAME should no longer be taken. When I try to set it in | 17:41 |
| ubuntourist | replaceafill, https://github.com/dc-b2p/dc-b2p.github.io/settings it just tells me | 17:41 |
| ubuntourist | replaceafill, "No changes to custom domain." and does nothing. | 17:41 |
| replaceafill | ubuntourist, i can look at the repo, but not the settings | 17:42 |
| replaceafill | ok | 17:42 |
| replaceafill | ubuntourist, the domain is that one in the repo, correct? | 17:42 |
| German | jelkner: , Yes. | 17:43 |
| ubuntourist | replaceafill, This is where I have a language barrier: I don't speak DNS. I don't understand the question. | 17:43 |
| ubuntourist | replaceafill, Hold while I get the DNS records again from GoDaddy. (I had them on another computer.) | 17:43 |
| replaceafill | ubuntourist, ok | 17:44 |
| German | jelkner, I'll talk with replaceafill because I don't get it very well | 17:45 |
| jelkner | German, let's talk later. i'm with a student | 17:53 |
| German | sure. jelkner | 17:53 |
| ubuntourist | replaceafill, Just sent two e-mail messages from the b2p.webspinners account. | 17:55 |
| replaceafill | ubuntourist, CNAME looks fine | 17:57 |
| replaceafill | i mean | 17:57 |
| replaceafill | www1800INCNAMEdc-b2p.github.io | 17:57 |
| replaceafill | ubuntourist, and dns resolution seems to work using dig | 17:59 |
| replaceafill | ubuntourist, so i'd think it's a github issue | 17:59 |
| ubuntourist | replaceafill, and one more e-mail message with the screenshot that the former owner told me to change. | 18:00 |
| replaceafill | ubuntourist, why don't you try wwww.dcbooks... | 18:01 |
| ubuntourist | replaceafill, It may be that he didn't properly release control of something. | 18:01 |
| replaceafill | i mean, a different one than www. | 18:01 |
| replaceafill | ubuntourist, dev.dcbookstoprisoners.org is what i'd try | 18:02 |
| ubuntourist | Try it where? Since the original names are well-known none of the DC Books To Prisoners volunteers wants me to switch to a 4th domain name | 18:02 |
| replaceafill | oh | 18:03 |
| replaceafill | you don't control the dns? | 18:03 |
| replaceafill | i meant, use dev. or something just to see if it's something clashing in the github side | 18:03 |
| replaceafill | assuming the problem is that www. is already used by other repo | 18:04 |
| ubuntourist | (The preferred one is www.bookstoprisons.org but the one that SEEMS to be working is dcbtp.org, though I haven't verfied that it is pointing to MY GitHub repo yet.) | 18:05 |
| ubuntourist | replaceafill, I think the DNS controls me. ;-) | 18:06 |
| replaceafill | :D | 18:06 |
| ubuntourist | replaceafill, I think I control the DNS but I don't know what I'm doing. | 18:06 |
| replaceafill | ubuntourist, i could take a look if you want | 18:08 |
| ubuntourist | replaceafill, So, change A @ on GoDaddy? CNAME www on GoDaddy? Custom domain name on GitHub? Change all three? For which of the three domains on GoDaddy? | 18:08 |
| replaceafill | ubuntourist, i'd add a this record in godaddy: | 18:09 |
| replaceafill | CNAME dev dc-b2p.github.io 3600 | 18:09 |
| replaceafill | and then change your github repo setting to: http://dev.dcbookstoprisoners.org | 18:10 |
| ubuntourist | To all three domains? | 18:10 |
| replaceafill | oh wait, the three zones are for the same site? | 18:11 |
| replaceafill | i thought they were 3 different sites | 18:11 |
| ubuntourist | Yes. | 18:11 |
| ubuntourist | Same site. | 18:11 |
| ubuntourist | Hold a sec | 18:11 |
| replaceafill | ah ok | 18:12 |
| replaceafill | let me step back then | 18:12 |
| replaceafill | dcbtp.org doesn't seem to work for me | 18:14 |
| ubuntourist | Interesting. | 18:15 |
| replaceafill | does it work for you? | 18:15 |
| replaceafill | i mean, dig sees your CNAME correctly | 18:15 |
| replaceafill | but i get 404 on github in my browser | 18:15 |
| ubuntourist | Well... It did this morning. But now it appears that's broken as well. | 18:16 |
| replaceafill | maybe you had www.dcbtp.org in the repo settings? | 18:16 |
| ubuntourist | I | 18:18 |
| ubuntourist | I've been unable to put ANYTHING in the repo settings. Mine has always been blank. | 18:19 |
| replaceafill | ubuntourist, and you don't get any errors? | 18:24 |
| replaceafill | i mean, customizing the settings | 18:24 |
| ubuntourist | When I try to customize the settings (in GitHub) it responds with "No changes to custom domain." and does nothing. | 18:25 |
| ubuntourist | (It remains blank.) | 18:28 |
| replaceafill | ubuntourist, have you seen https://stackoverflow.com/questions/9082499/custom-domain-for-github-project-pages/9123911 | 18:29 |
| replaceafill | see item 2. in the marked answer | 18:30 |
| replaceafill | it seems that you need two records | 18:30 |
| replaceafill | not just the CNAME to the .io site | 18:30 |
| ubuntourist | The thing is, it was working as I understand it, when Jason had the three GoDaddy domains, and the GitHub.io page. | 18:32 |
| ubuntourist | What I thought I had done was take each of his domain DNS settings and changed the pointer to point to my GitHub.io page. | 18:33 |
| ubuntourist | But apparently, there's more to it than that. | 18:33 |
| ubuntourist | In any case, I'll study the answer and see what happens. | 18:33 |
| replaceafill | ubuntourist, ok | 18:33 |
| replaceafill | sorry i couldn't help much :/ | 18:33 |
| jelkner | replaceafill, what do you know about CORS? | 18:36 |
| replaceafill | jelkner, not a lot | 18:37 |
| replaceafill | i mean, i know what it is used for | 18:37 |
| replaceafill | that's the cross site sharing, right? | 18:37 |
| jelkner | not that i've got the server working, i want to create a client | 18:37 |
| jelkner | https://github.com/jelkner/flasktodo | 18:38 |
| jelkner | i've started using: https://spring.io/guides/gs/consuming-rest-jquery/ | 18:38 |
| jelkner | but when i try to access the page, i get: | 18:39 |
| jelkner | Cross-Origin Request Blocked: The Same Origin Policy disallows reading the remote resource at http://zestyserver:5000/todo/api/v1.0/tasks. (Reason: CORS header ‘Access-Control-Allow-Origin’ missing). | 18:39 |
| jelkner | so i need to add a CORS header | 18:40 |
| jelkner | just wanted to know if you had experience with that. | 18:40 |
| jelkner | i'll look it up | 18:40 |
| jelkner | wish me luck | 18:40 |
| replaceafill | jelkner, i remember there's a flask package for that | 18:40 |
| replaceafill | but i haven't used it | 18:41 |
| replaceafill | i mean, an extension | 18:41 |
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| jelkner | cool, i'll look into that | 18:42 |
| jelkner | hey louis_ | 18:42 |
| louis_ | hey jelkner | 18:43 |
| mjsir911 | replaceafill, when i was looking over jelkner's shoulder at his unit testing stuff, I noticed a line `self.assertEqual(a, b)`. Why would you do that and not `assert a == b`? | 18:43 |
| jelkner | louis_: if you want to get rid of the _, type: '/nick louis' | 18:44 |
| replaceafill | mjsir911, because asserts can be disabled | 18:44 |
| louis_ | thanks jelkner, I was just working on that. | 18:45 |
| mjsir911 | oh that makes enough sense, theyre disabled for fast compilation I think, right? | 18:45 |
| replaceafill | mjsir911, correct | 18:45 |
| replaceafill | optimized mode | 18:45 |
| jelkner | louisea: you can register that nick later | 18:45 |
| jelkner | so that it is always yours | 18:45 |
| mjsir911 | ok thanks, also is this what we want to do for webhooks for aea?: https://gist.github.com/oodavid/1809044 | 18:46 |
| jelkner | 14 minutes to show time | 18:46 |
| replaceafill | mjsir911, some test runners use simple asserts though | 18:46 |
| mjsir911 | is that a bad idea though? | 18:47 |
| replaceafill | mjsir911, pretty much, yeah | 18:47 |
| replaceafill | mjsir911, not really, matter of taste i guess | 18:47 |
| ubuntourist | louisea, Since this is a co-op, I'm going to say "Why wait to register?" ;-) | 18:48 |
| replaceafill | mjsir911, in this case is good to know that unittest follows junit | 18:49 |
| ubuntourist | louisea, to see how, type "/msg nickserv help register" sans quotes | 18:49 |
| louisea | thanks ubuntutourist | 18:49 |
| louisea | you read my mind | 18:49 |
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| mjsir911 | Ok so who is actually registered? I'll give some of you permissions | 18:51 |
| * jelkner calls rena so we can start a few minutes early | 18:52 | |
| ubuntourist | What he means is who has actually typed "/msg nickserv register <password> <email>"? | 18:53 |
| louisea | I just registered | 18:54 |
| ubuntourist | As I just mentioned, you can get the details via "/msg nickserv help register" sans quotes. | 18:54 |
| jelkner | louisea: take it away | 18:54 |
| louisea | Alright. So I just sent you all a draft of the partnership agreement that I have been working on. | 18:56 |
| louisea | Basically, it's a legal document that contains the rules that we will agree upon for how we will relate to the organization financially and in decision making. | 18:57 |
| louisea | I'm not sure what the best way for us to collectively make revisions on it will be... | 18:57 |
| louisea | but we need to decide on things like fraction of the members required to pass policies | 18:58 |
| louisea | what sort of management structure we will use | 18:58 |
| mjsir911 | What will we be revising? Won't we be coming up with decisions and you implementing them in the document? | 18:59 |
| ubuntourist | louisea, like a quorum? | 18:59 |
| louisea | ubuntourist: yes | 18:59 |
| remindBot | ask why aeava.org isn't working. | 19:00 |
| remindBot | ask mjsir911 to fix the clock | 19:00 |
| ubuntourist | mjsir911, a lot of these requirements are to satisfy the government, not necessarily how things get done. | 19:00 |
| louisea | to that point ubuntourist... | 19:00 |
| louisea | I agree | 19:00 |
| jelkner | louisea: we should mention now that anyone without an SSN needs to get a US tax id, yes? | 19:01 |
| louisea | though we should probably be careful and envision situations in which we might get into situations where we will have liabilities | 19:01 |
| louisea | jelkner: yes | 19:01 |
| ubuntourist | mjsir911, To become officially recognized by the government, and reap whatever benefits are available from organizing a particular way, they require | 19:01 |
| jelkner | replaceafill: you have that, yes? | 19:01 |
| mjsir911 | ubuntourist, I mean what are we collectively revising, does anyone other than loisea really know what requirements we need to satisfy the goernment? | 19:01 |
| replaceafill | jelkner, yes | 19:02 |
| ubuntourist | mjsir911, a document that says "IF we revise things, this is how we'll do it" | 19:02 |
| mjsir911 | oh i see, rules on revisions? | 19:02 |
| ubuntourist | mjsir911, yes, that's my understanding. | 19:02 |
| louisea | mjsir911 and ubuntourist: yes, but that's not all that document contains. | 19:03 |
| louisea | the best way to understand it is to look over the Article headers in the draft that I sent out | 19:04 |
| ubuntourist | louisea, Undobutedly there's a whole slew of "Bring me a ... shrubbery" type requirements in the organizing docs. I was just referring to the one that came up. ;-) | 19:04 |
| jelkner | the biggest issue i see is with the notion of "shares" | 19:05 |
| louisea | could you say more? | 19:05 |
| jelkner | "shares" will be in constant flux, especially in the beginning | 19:06 |
| jelkner | basically, members aren't going to have to contribute anything but their labor, since we need no capital infrastructure | 19:06 |
| German | jelkner: we're in meeting? | 19:06 |
| louisea | yes, I have thought of that | 19:06 |
| louisea | and I do not yet know how to account for it | 19:06 |
| jelkner | and they will take out "shares" based on what income they bring in | 19:07 |
| louisea | I'm investigating | 19:07 |
| jelkner | German, yes | 19:07 |
| jelkner | German, look at your email, so you can see the document we are discussing | 19:07 |
| louisea | now the danger of not having investments in an LLC is that if a lawsuit were to occur people could be held personally financially responsible | 19:08 |
| German | I'm looking at it, jelkner | 19:08 |
| louisea | the point of an LLC is to have a business that is separate from your personal accounts | 19:09 |
| louisea | so that in the case of having to, settle a debt for example, your personal assets are not at risk | 19:09 |
| jelkner | louisea: right (hence the "limited liability" in the LLC | 19:09 |
| louisea | but you have to prove that the business is in fact distanced from your personal accounts | 19:10 |
| jelkner | to help focus this process a bit, louisea, is there anything you need from us now? | 19:10 |
| louisea | usually by investing capital | 19:10 |
| louisea | thanks jelkner | 19:10 |
| jelkner | you said we would discuss this more fully next week | 19:10 |
| louisea | I thought this would happen | 19:10 |
| jelkner | and we need to meet with an accountant | 19:10 |
| jelkner | for now, just let folks know what you are working on, and ask us for any feedback you need | 19:11 |
| louisea | if people could look over Article IV on Management and come up with ideas on how they would like our organization to be managed | 19:11 |
| louisea | that might be helpful. | 19:11 |
| louisea | and we could discuss it next week. | 19:12 |
| * jelkner promises to have have read and thought about that by our next meeting | 19:12 | |
| ubuntourist | BTW the doc is now at https://drive.google.com/open?id=0BwTZk3m0X_cjb3NZSXl6VWt5alE | 19:12 |
| replaceafill | couldn't we have an LLC and operate like a co-op | 19:12 |
| louisea | replaceafill: yes | 19:13 |
| replaceafill | louisea, ah ok, thanks | 19:13 |
| ubuntourist | (I mean the doc louisea sent in email.) | 19:13 |
| jelkner | that's how you have to do it in VA, right louisea? | 19:13 |
| louisea | jelkner: not absolutely sure about that | 19:13 |
| louisea | I think there are other ways to have a cooperatively run business | 19:14 |
| louisea | LLC is just one vehicle in which it can happen | 19:14 |
| jelkner | is it the one you recommend? | 19:14 |
| louisea | I'm not absolutely sure its the best | 19:15 |
| jelkner | ok, let's talk more next week | 19:15 |
| louisea | cool | 19:15 |
| jelkner | replaceafill, can you explain to German and the others who need it how to get US tax id? | 19:16 |
| replaceafill | jelkner, sure, you need to get a certified copy of your passport | 19:16 |
| replaceafill | here in San Salvador, you get it at the US embassy | 19:17 |
| replaceafill | then i sent it to our SIELibre accountant and he took it from there | 19:17 |
| jelkner | you'll work with German on that there, yes? | 19:17 |
| replaceafill | it took about one month to get the ITIN | 19:17 |
| replaceafill | jelkner, yes | 19:17 |
| jelkner | i'll work with folks here to see what we need to do | 19:17 |
| jelkner | ok, let's see what everyone has been up to | 19:18 |
| jelkner | German, you want to start? | 19:18 |
| German | sure jelkner | 19:18 |
| German | Right now, I'm working on Celina's site and I hopefully have the layout for tomorrow. | 19:19 |
| German | because I need the complete information | 19:19 |
| German | At the moment I just have pics | 19:19 |
| jelkner | did you get to talk to her? | 19:20 |
| German | yes I did | 19:20 |
| jelkner | cool | 19:20 |
| German | I'll call her tomorrow | 19:20 |
| jelkner | great | 19:20 |
| German | again | 19:20 |
| jelkner | since her election is may 1, she needs that soon | 19:21 |
| jelkner | don't forget the nova web development logo on the bottom ;-) | 19:21 |
| German | yes | 19:21 |
| German | She asked me If we can make her site with both languages | 19:21 |
| jelkner | she definitely wants that | 19:21 |
| German | spanish & english | 19:21 |
| German | yes | 19:21 |
| jelkner | and it gives us a chance to show off our bilingual chops again | 19:22 |
| ubuntourist | Heh. The all-important logo! Yes! ;-) | 19:22 |
| German | yes | 19:22 |
| jelkner | ok, German, anything else we need to know? | 19:22 |
| German | no | 19:23 |
| German | tha'ts all | 19:23 |
| German | that's* | 19:23 |
| German | jelkner: | 19:23 |
| jelkner | vjuarez? | 19:23 |
| jelkner | amanuel? | 19:23 |
| vjuarez | I have being working on the tacos truck. I am working on the responsive design, and it is looking good and also I have being studying for the Skills USA | 19:23 |
| jelkner | is there a url we can see? | 19:23 |
| vjuarez | yes | 19:24 |
| vjuarez | http://students.gctaa.net/~vjuarez/tacos_el_papi_website/ | 19:24 |
| vjuarez | there you can see, and you can see also that is working very good on cellphones | 19:25 |
| jelkner | nice | 19:25 |
| jelkner | and i see the resemblance to your own site ;-) | 19:25 |
| German | I like the parallax effect vjuarez | 19:26 |
| vjuarez | I just got some new pictures, so I will change some of them soon | 19:26 |
| vjuarez | thanks german | 19:26 |
| jelkner | vjuarez: but where's our logo?! | 19:26 |
| vjuarez | I still working on that but it is getting better | 19:26 |
| vjuarez | soon Jelkner | 19:27 |
| jelkner | ok | 19:27 |
| ubuntourist | Nice effects, but the initial text is hard to read on my screen. (The translucent stuff blends with the pictures behind it.) | 19:27 |
| jelkner | thx | 19:27 |
| * replaceafill wants tacos for dinner now... | 19:27 | |
| vjuarez | yes Ubuntourist I have to change the color | 19:27 |
| vjuarez | hahaha We want tacos for free | 19:27 |
| jelkner | yes indeed | 19:28 |
| mjsir911 | I'm getting a translation error, google thinks the page is latin http://students.gctaa.net/~vjuarez/tacos_el_papi_website/ | 19:28 |
| mjsir911 | oops | 19:28 |
| mjsir911 | http://imgur.com/a/k46WN | 19:28 |
| vjuarez | is a latin page Jelkner | 19:28 |
| jelkner | amanuel? | 19:28 |
| amanuel | yep | 19:28 |
| jelkner | what are you working on this week? | 19:29 |
| jelkner | briefly, we usually have 30 minute meetings | 19:29 |
| jelkner | we are at 30 minutes now | 19:29 |
| amanuel | i am slowly creating some templates and trying to mix a little jquery on them | 19:29 |
| jelkner | good | 19:30 |
| jelkner | i should talk to you about the front end to the ToDo list | 19:30 |
| amanuel | okey | 19:30 |
| jelkner | ok, ubuntourist you're on | 19:30 |
| * ubuntourist takes the helm | 19:30 | |
| ubuntourist | Well. | 19:30 |
| ubuntourist | A setback cost me a lot of sleep last week, more than usual. But things are back on track and ahead of where they | 19:31 |
| ubuntourist | were a week ago. I'm now at the stage of incorporating mjsir11's prototype JSON template into my code. | 19:32 |
| jelkner | can you mention the meetings we have coming up? | 19:32 |
| ubuntourist | From here on out, the my code will depend on his JSON file format. | 19:32 |
| ubuntourist | Coming up: A six-month review of mjsir11 with Dragana at Gallaudet this coming Tuesday. | 19:33 |
| jelkner | Gallaudet is our single best customer, so this is important | 19:33 |
| ubuntourist | Before that, any last-minute polish he can put on his code. We want to see how it looks on the actual | 19:33 |
| ubuntourist | production machine. So, that's this coming Sunday. | 19:34 |
| ubuntourist | That's it for me. | 19:34 |
| jelkner | mjsir911 | 19:34 |
| mjsir911 | Yea and I'm fixing up that code so I have to do the least amount of fixing while I actually have access to the production machine | 19:34 |
| mjsir911 | And can focus on getting it onto there. | 19:34 |
| mjsir911 | I'll also be continuing the update the irc infrastructure, refining the bots and working with a student in web design to update the log html | 19:35 |
| jelkner | you're becoming a handy dandy sys admin! | 19:35 |
| jelkner | as evidenced by this setup we are using here | 19:36 |
| jelkner | we will need those skills | 19:36 |
| ubuntourist | I think we're both becoming more comfy with forks and branches in git as well. | 19:36 |
| mjsir911 | Yep, the time on webfaction was broken but that got fixed, so the old logs are 4 hours ahead, be warned for everything before today | 19:36 |
| jelkner | awesome! | 19:36 |
| jelkner | replaceafill, anything to add? | 19:36 |
| mjsir911 | Yea, we have to look into github webhooks soon for aea development | 19:36 |
| jelkner | soon | 19:37 |
| replaceafill | jelkner, not much, got my old job now | 19:37 |
| jelkner | how is it going? | 19:37 |
| replaceafill | so i'll be around more here | 19:37 |
| mjsir911 | & aeava.org btw jelkner | 19:37 |
| replaceafill | let's say i'll be able to pay my sugery if it's needed | 19:37 |
| replaceafill | that's all i wanted... | 19:37 |
| jelkner | mjsir911: that's done | 19:37 |
| * replaceafill done | 19:38 | |
| mjsir911 | Oh ok | 19:38 |
| jelkner | ok, everyone, thanks! | 19:38 |
| * jelkner drops the bag of gravel | 19:38 | |
| replaceafill | legendary!!!! | 19:38 |
| replaceafill | :D | 19:38 |
| German | ;-) | 19:38 |
| German | let's back to work | 19:38 |
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| jelkner | oops | 19:39 |
| jelkner | we need a next week time | 19:39 |
| jelkner | can we meet in the morning? | 19:39 |
| jelkner | we are on spring break | 19:39 |
| German | time? | 19:39 |
| louisea | I can't | 19:39 |
| jelkner | so we won't be here 7 pm | 19:39 |
| jelkner | louisea: what works for you? | 19:39 |
| louisea | I will not be on Spring Break | 19:39 |
| louisea | actually... I can do 9:30AM - 10:30 AM any week day. Otherwise weekdays at 7:00 PM is best | 19:40 |
| jelkner | can we do 9:30 am Wednesday? | 19:40 |
| louisea | yeah that will work | 19:41 |
| jelkner | German? | 19:41 |
| replaceafill | that's too early for me, sorry | 19:41 |
| jelkner | np | 19:41 |
| German | works for me jelkner | 19:41 |
| replaceafill | but we have logs now :) | 19:41 |
| German | ;-) | 19:41 |
| jelkner | ok, we'll check in next Wednesday at 9:30 am | 19:43 |
| German | ok. | 19:43 |
| replaceafill | ok | 19:43 |
| jelkner | louisea, ubuntourist, German, jelkner, mjsir911, and amanuel can make it | 19:43 |
| jelkner | after that, Tuesday april 18 at 7 pm again | 19:43 |
| jelkner | thanks! | 19:43 |
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