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| dsmall | mjsir911, so I looked into it and both the Yellow pages and the White pages have a payment barrier | 09:39 |
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| mjsir911 | Oh damn | 09:40 |
| dsmall | they are less of a database and more of a search, then pay for the results website | 09:40 |
| mjsir911 | thats too bad | 09:40 |
| mjsir911 | I think whitepages are the way to go | 09:43 |
| mjsir911 | sometimes I can see a phone number and it still gives an address | 09:43 |
| mjsir911 | im looking at whitepages.com | 09:43 |
| mjsir911 | And It has an API so ez polling of results | 09:44 |
| dsmall | Oh, thats good | 09:48 |
| dsmall | Did you get the email with the spreadsheet? | 09:48 |
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| mjsir911 | I'm having email problems :/ | 10:01 |
| dsmall | I can try to send it again | 10:03 |
| dsmall | mjsir911, can you resend your email address | 10:08 |
| mjsir911 | The email problems are on my end | 10:24 |
| mjsir911 | I think an email that works is marco.sirabella@novawebdevelopment.org | 10:25 |
| mjsir911 | Although I won't be able to access that for a couple of days | 10:25 |
| dsmall | Alright | 11:28 |
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| jelkner | Good morning, replaceafill | 11:55 |
| replaceafill | good morning jelkner | 11:55 |
| jelkner | i'm trying to follow your civicrm recipe | 11:56 |
| replaceafill | jelkner, any problems so far? | 11:56 |
| jelkner | since i'm involved in the whole nea4or and labor4ourrev thing (which is what is going to give us the entre into the space we need) | 11:57 |
| jelkner | i keep getting interrupted | 11:57 |
| jelkner | i'll let you know how it goes | 11:57 |
| replaceafill | jelkner, ok | 11:57 |
| jelkner | but i know we will want postgresql (so we can have postgis) and not mysql | 11:57 |
| jelkner | i can start playing with civicrm using anything | 11:58 |
| jelkner | but i the nea4or instance we setup should use postgresql if at all possible | 11:58 |
| replaceafill | jelkner, in my "Nailing Down some Numbers" reply i wrote this: | 11:59 |
| replaceafill | "* Database managers (yes, I plan we use both, unfortunately CiviCRM only | 11:59 |
| replaceafill | plays well with MySQL)" | 11:59 |
| jelkner | really? | 11:59 |
| replaceafill | jelkner, according to my googling yes | 11:59 |
| replaceafill | jelkner, wait | 11:59 |
| replaceafill | jelkner, i remember i tested it | 11:59 |
| replaceafill | jelkner, and confirmed it | 11:59 |
| jelkner | wow | 12:00 |
| replaceafill | jelkner, the civicrm set up looks for the mysql service | 12:00 |
| jelkner | that really sucks | 12:00 |
| replaceafill | jelkner, and asks you for the database name/credentials | 12:00 |
| replaceafill | jelkner, that's what i said too :) | 12:00 |
| jelkner | there goes nice geospatial features | 12:00 |
| replaceafill | jelkner, drupal works well with postgres | 12:00 |
| replaceafill | jelkner, if it's an important feature, i think we can sync them up | 12:01 |
| jelkner | so you run two databases | 12:01 |
| replaceafill | jelkner, and assumming we're not going to deal with millions of concurrent users initially... | 12:01 |
| replaceafill | jelkner, i think it can be handled | 12:01 |
| jelkner | not initially | 12:01 |
| replaceafill | jelkner, hopefully once we hit the million concurrent users, we'll have it figure out | 12:02 |
| replaceafill | jelkner, :) | 12:02 |
| jelkner | and once we are, we will have the resources to hire more folks who can help us make the changes that need to be made | 12:02 |
| replaceafill | jelkner, good point :) | 12:02 |
| replaceafill | jelkner, so i'd say: file an issue with the desired feature | 12:02 |
| jelkner | will do | 12:03 |
| replaceafill | jelkner, and we take it from there | 12:03 |
| jelkner | ok when do you think we can start using a very basic system with nea4or? | 12:03 |
| jelkner | to store member info | 12:03 |
| jelkner | we can talk at the meeting tomorrow | 12:03 |
| jelkner | but a time line for that is really important now | 12:04 |
| jelkner | that's what i meant by "riding a fast moving train" | 12:04 |
| replaceafill | jelkner, my estimates usually suck but i think it'll take around 2 weeks to get the *basics* right | 12:04 |
| jelkner | ok | 12:04 |
| jelkner | this is your moment, my dear friend, it will be important to try to make your estimates work | 12:05 |
| jelkner | timing is going to be everything | 12:05 |
| replaceafill | jelkner, i know, i've been doing my homework | 12:06 |
| jelkner | and start thinking of other developers you know and trust whom we could possibly bring in once this takes off | 12:06 |
| replaceafill | jelkner, and now when i go for my long walks, i keep thikning civi... | 12:06 |
| jelkner | we need to reach out to the community | 12:06 |
| replaceafill | jelkner, yes | 12:07 |
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| replaceafill | jelkner, using action network first may be a good approach | 12:08 |
| replaceafill | jelkner, since it'd give us a target | 12:08 |
| replaceafill | jelkner, but i don't consider it extremely necessary | 12:09 |
| replaceafill | jelkner, since i think *you* know what you want/need | 12:09 |
| jelkner | i do | 12:11 |
| jelkner | two weeks is ok | 12:11 |
| jelkner | my concern was loosing the data much longer than that | 12:11 |
| jelkner | we are going into the data business | 12:11 |
| jelkner | data is more valuable than software | 12:11 |
| replaceafill | jelkner, indeed | 12:11 |
| jelkner | that's were our bread will be buttered | 12:12 |
| replaceafill | jelkner, but we need to guarantee that the data is safe too | 12:12 |
| jelkner | you bet | 12:12 |
| replaceafill | jelkner, that's why i wouldn't rush it | 12:12 |
| jelkner | we will have no choice but to "rush it" a bit | 12:12 |
| jelkner | this business moves fast | 12:12 |
| jelkner | if we wait to long | 12:13 |
| jelkner | OR will be so vested in Action Network it will be hard for them to switch | 12:13 |
| replaceafill | jelkner, do you know what contact information you'll need for each member? | 12:13 |
| jelkner | if we don't act fairly soon, nea4or will be forced to use Action Network | 12:13 |
| jelkner | then we will need to figure out how to get our data migrated | 12:14 |
| jelkner | another potential headache | 12:14 |
| jelkner | maybe not a big one | 12:14 |
| replaceafill | jelkner, true | 12:14 |
| jelkner | i don't know | 12:14 |
| jelkner | since we are small now | 12:14 |
| jelkner | i would rather bootstrap this and get it going | 12:14 |
| jelkner | databases are pretty easy to back up | 12:15 |
| jelkner | (unlike ZODB ;-) | 12:15 |
| replaceafill | jelkner, hey! | 12:15 |
| replaceafill | jelkner, feelings dude | 12:15 |
| replaceafill | jelkner, don't make me quit before starting | 12:15 |
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| jelkner | lol | 12:15 |
| mr_german | hello | 12:15 |
| replaceafill | jelkner, praise mr fulton | 12:15 |
| mr_german | good morning | 12:15 |
| mr_german | ;) | 12:15 |
| replaceafill | good morning mr_german | 12:15 |
| jelkner | i've had long conversations with my brother about this | 12:15 |
| jelkner | mr fulton's ideas were clever and innovative | 12:16 |
| jelkner | but stodgy old approaches that are tried and true can still make more sense | 12:16 |
| replaceafill | jelkner, true | 12:16 |
| jelkner | alan said in a relational db, there were so many ways he could access and manipulate the data | 12:17 |
| jelkner | back to the civicrm community question | 12:17 |
| mr_german | jelkner, I saw the email | 12:18 |
| jelkner | since i am not at all shy, do you want me to reach out to them? | 12:18 |
| replaceafill | jelkner, i asked you about contacts above... | 12:18 |
| mr_german | I'll start to work on that | 12:18 |
| replaceafill | <replaceafill> jelkner, do you know what contact information you'll need for each member? | 12:18 |
| replaceafill | jelkner, can we make that ^ an issue/story? | 12:18 |
| jelkner | yes | 12:18 |
| replaceafill | jelkner, sooner rather than later if possible | 12:18 |
| jelkner | that's my job, i'll get right on it | 12:19 |
| replaceafill | jelkner, i'd like to know what's the *basics* | 12:19 |
| replaceafill | jelkner, maybe we could "bootstrap" from there | 12:19 |
| jelkner | and leave the software development to folks better able to do that ;-) | 12:19 |
| jelkner | yes, that would be awesome | 12:19 |
| jelkner | i'm probably going to have to ask you and mr_german to setup a server somewhere for me to test | 12:19 |
| jelkner | instead of trying to do this on my own | 12:20 |
| jelkner | i just can't find the time | 12:20 |
| replaceafill | jelkner, i proposed that last week during the meeting | 12:20 |
| jelkner | cool | 12:20 |
| replaceafill | jelkner, but i haven't been able to get to it | 12:20 |
| jelkner | okie dokie | 12:20 |
| jelkner | let me eat my lunch and then right user stories | 12:20 |
| replaceafill | jelkner, but this week for sure... (promises promises as Kevin says) | 12:20 |
| replaceafill | jelkner, cool, thanks | 12:20 |
| mr_german | replaceafill, talking about civi, yesterday I set it up on my pc | 12:21 |
| replaceafill | mr_german, cool | 12:21 |
| replaceafill | mr_german, did you see my gist? | 12:21 |
| replaceafill | mr_german, or did you google how to set it up? | 12:21 |
| mr_german | replaceafill,yep, very helpful | 12:21 |
| replaceafill | mr_german, cool | 12:22 |
| mr_german | well, i'll start to work | 12:23 |
| mr_german | I have many things to do | 12:23 |
| mr_german | ACTION goes back to work | 12:24 |
| jelkner | dsmall, here is a link to replaceafill's instructions for setting up civicrm: replaceafill/gist:c614ca0571f5fb17f9106ce2834c8aa1 | 13:11 |
| replaceafill | dsmall, this is a link https://gist.github.com/replaceafill/c614ca0571f5fb17f9106ce2834c8aa1 | 13:13 |
| replaceafill | :) | 13:13 |
| dsmall | jelkner, replaceafill Thank you | 13:13 |
| jelkner | you'll need to start with an ubuntu 16.04 server kvm instance | 13:13 |
| jelkner | dsmall, start here: http://releases.ubuntu.com/16.04.2/ | 13:15 |
| jelkner | and use the ubuntu-16.04.2-server-amd64.iso.torrent to download | 13:16 |
| jelkner | replaceafill, can anyone see this link: https://gitlab.com/novawebdevelopment/nea4or_civi/milestones/3 ? | 13:50 |
| jelkner | just sent an email to amity and rand with it asking for feedback, so i hope so | 13:50 |
| replaceafill | jelkner, nope | 13:51 |
| jelkner | ouch | 13:51 |
| replaceafill | jelkner, the group is private | 13:51 |
| jelkner | should we add them to the group? | 13:51 |
| replaceafill | jelkner, we can, but they'll need accounts | 13:51 |
| jelkner | understoog | 13:51 |
| replaceafill | jelkner, i mean, gitlab accounts | 13:51 |
| jelkner | s/g/d | 13:51 |
| replaceafill | ACTION goes to pick up Camila, bb in ~45 | 13:58 |
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| dsmall | replaceafill, I am going through the civiCRM steps and I have a question: what does the # sign infront of a command mean? | 14:40 |
| dsmall | line 31 | 14:40 |
| mjsir911 | It probably meancs a comment | 14:41 |
| mjsir911 | is this in python? In python it's a comment | 14:41 |
| dsmall | mjsir911, not really, it is a step by step guide of commands in terminal | 14:42 |
| mjsir911 | It's a comment in bash too | 14:43 |
| replaceafill | dsmall, it means you can ommit that step | 14:46 |
| dsmall | replaceafill, ok perfect | 14:47 |
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| dsmall | replaceafill, I am stuck on the 'Visit http://localhost/install.php' step | 15:05 |
| replaceafill | dsmall, any errors in particular? | 15:06 |
| replaceafill | dsmall, feel free to pastebin.com error traces or imgur.com screenshots :) | 15:07 |
| dsmall | replaceafill, it isn't a command and i cannot connect to it if it is a url | 15:07 |
| replaceafill | dsmall, ah, you're setting up a remote machine, correct? | 15:07 |
| dsmall | replaceafill, I think so | 15:08 |
| replaceafill | dsmall, the http://localhost/... url works when you're installing on your own machine | 15:08 |
| replaceafill | jelkner, can you help dsmall get the ip of the server? | 15:08 |
| replaceafill | dsmall, you need your server's IP address | 15:08 |
| replaceafill | dsmall, so you can use something like http://192.168.1.90/install.php | 15:09 |
| dsmall | replaceafill, I think it is 192.168.122.149 | 15:09 |
| dsmall | alright | 15:09 |
| replaceafill | dsmall, if http://192.168.122.149 shows you something | 15:09 |
| replaceafill | dsmall, you can replace all the localhost references in the guide | 15:10 |
| dsmall | replaceafill, ya, that makes sense | 15:10 |
| dsmall | replaceafill, I see a setup page | 15:10 |
| replaceafill | dsmall, right, that's for setting a drupal site | 15:10 |
| replaceafill | dsmall, it should be straightforward, but in case you need some docs: https://www.drupal.org/docs/7/installing-drupal-7/step-4-run-the-installation-script | 15:11 |
| dsmall | replaceafill, Thank you :) | 15:12 |
| zOnny | Hello World | 15:18 |
| dsmall | replaceafill, I have a new problem http://imgur.com/a/i0iRX | 15:29 |
| dsmall | replaceafill, and I went into the advanced settings to change the database hose | 15:30 |
| replaceafill | dsmall, and you didn't have issues running lines 6-13? | 15:31 |
| dsmall | replaceafill, none | 15:32 |
| dsmall | replaceafill, I even went back and tried them again | 15:32 |
| replaceafill | dsmall, you don't need to set a database host, since it's running in the same server | 15:33 |
| replaceafill | dsmall, but that's not the issue | 15:33 |
| dsmall | replaceafill, when I set it back to localhost it now says "SQLSTATE[HY000] [1045] Access denied for user 'drupalsite'@'localhost' (using password: NO)." | 15:34 |
| dsmall | replaceafill, I have put this command in "GRANT ALL ON drupalsite.* TO 'drupalsite'@'192.168.122.149';" | 15:35 |
| replaceafill | dsmall, that's not necessary | 15:36 |
| replaceafill | dsmall, it should be localhost | 15:36 |
| dsmall | replaceafill, I even tried "GRANT ALL ON drupalsite.* TO 'drupalsite'@'localhost';" | 15:36 |
| replaceafill | dsmall, the "using password: NO" is the weird part | 15:36 |
| replaceafill | dsmall, you're setting the three fields to drupalsite correct | 15:37 |
| replaceafill | dsmall, i mean database user and password | 15:37 |
| dsmall | replaceafill, derp that was the issue | 15:37 |
| replaceafill | dsmall, missing password? | 15:38 |
| dsmall | replaceafill, I didn't realize there was a password | 15:38 |
| replaceafill | dsmall, ah | 15:38 |
| jelkner | mr_german, what does your schedule look like tomorrow? | 15:38 |
| dsmall | replaceafill, yup | 15:38 |
| replaceafill | dsmall, glad it worked :) | 15:38 |
| jelkner | i'd like to work with you on the labor4ourrev website | 15:38 |
| dsmall | replaceafill, what about the site email addr and site maintenance acc? | 15:38 |
| jelkner | it would be helpful if we could plan a time | 15:39 |
| jelkner | i have to leave in 5 minutes today | 15:39 |
| replaceafill | dsmall, you can use dummy data on those for now | 15:39 |
| jelkner | so if you aren't here now, please email me with when i can expect to see you tomorrow | 15:39 |
| dsmall | replaceafill, Okay | 15:39 |
| jelkner | replaceafill, i'm going to need to leave in a few minutes | 15:40 |
| replaceafill | jelkner, ok | 15:40 |
| jelkner | rand emailed back with stuff he wants on the website | 15:40 |
| replaceafill | jelkner, i saw | 15:40 |
| jelkner | i plan to get on that first thing tomorrow | 15:40 |
| jelkner | and will probably need mr_german's help | 15:40 |
| replaceafill | jelkner, can mr_german help you with that? | 15:40 |
| replaceafill | jelkner, ah ok | 15:40 |
| jelkner | i'll be in tomorrow and get started | 15:40 |
| mr_german | jelkner, | 15:41 |
| dsmall | replaceafill, Did it! | 15:41 |
| jelkner | ahh, there you are ;-) | 15:41 |
| replaceafill | dsmall, awesome! | 15:41 |
| jelkner | what times will you work tomorrow, mr_german? | 15:41 |
| mr_german | jelkner, mm I'll be at 1pm | 15:42 |
| mr_german | here* | 15:42 |
| jelkner | great | 15:42 |
| jelkner | i'll do what i can in the morning | 15:42 |
| jelkner | and then check in with you at 1 pm | 15:42 |
| mr_german | k jelkner | 15:42 |
| jelkner | c u tomorrow | 15:42 |
| mr_german | cya | 15:42 |
| jelkner | ACTION signs out for the day... | 15:42 |
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