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| replaceafill | hello jelkner | 12:39 |
| replaceafill | jelkner, is your kvm reachable from outside? | 12:39 |
| jelkner | no | 12:47 |
| jelkner | it is on a nat that kvm creates with a virtual switch | 12:47 |
| jelkner | the default network is 192.168.122.x | 12:47 |
| replaceafill | jelkner, and you didn't get an error on the last step: sudo service apache2 restart? | 12:48 |
| jelkner | nope | 12:48 |
| jelkner | apache is running | 12:48 |
| replaceafill | did you try: http://.../install.php? | 12:48 |
| jelkner | but it probably isn't configured to allow remote connections | 12:48 |
| jelkner | no, i tried index.php | 12:49 |
| jelkner | let me try | 12:49 |
| jelkner | http://weblog.elkner.net/2017_07_15/ | 12:49 |
| jelkner | note that this kvm works like a charm | 12:49 |
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| mr_german | hello | 12:51 |
| mr_german | good morning | 12:51 |
| mr_german | morning/afternoon | 12:51 |
| jelkner | never mind, replaceafill | 12:51 |
| jelkner | i'm an idiot | 12:52 |
| jelkner | (but you knew that already :-( | 12:52 |
| replaceafill | jelkner, what was the problem? | 12:52 |
| jelkner | the ip address ends in 163, not 168 | 12:52 |
| replaceafill | jelkner, ah! | 12:52 |
| jelkner | if you point the browser at the right ip address, it works | 12:52 |
| jelkner | duh! | 12:52 |
| replaceafill | jelkner, well, 3 is similar to 8 | 12:52 |
| jelkner | yeah, your just trying to make me feel better | 12:53 |
| jelkner | lol | 12:53 |
| replaceafill | :D | 12:53 |
| jelkner | i have no excuse | 12:53 |
| jelkner | anyway, onward | 12:53 |
| replaceafill | jelkner, glad it works so far ;) | 12:53 |
| jelkner | ben just wrote me from agaric | 12:53 |
| jelkner | i'm going to reply to that | 12:53 |
| jelkner | i wanted to get some work done on labor4ourrev | 12:53 |
| jelkner | but correspondence and outreach keeps me busy | 12:54 |
| jelkner | i'll probably end up asking mr_german to handle that | 12:54 |
| replaceafill | jelkner, team work :) | 12:54 |
| jelkner | btw, i've begun lurking on #civicrm | 12:54 |
| jelkner | and will be spending more time reaching out to the civicrm community | 12:55 |
| replaceafill | jelkner, ah good | 12:55 |
| jelkner | we are going to need allies interested in what we are trying to do | 12:55 |
| jelkner | who are well connected to the core group of civicrm devs | 12:55 |
| replaceafill | jelkner, indeed | 12:56 |
| jelkner | did you see my email to rand, amity, you, and louie? | 12:56 |
| replaceafill | jelkner, yes | 12:56 |
| jelkner | the more i think about this and talk to folks about it, the clearer it becomes just what our business plan is all about | 12:56 |
| jelkner | thoughts? | 12:57 |
| jelkner | it's becoming clearer to me, at least, but i don't know what ya'll think about it ;-) | 12:57 |
| replaceafill | jelkner, the postgis part is my biggest concern | 12:57 |
| jelkner | we can put that off for now | 12:58 |
| replaceafill | jelkner, sure | 12:58 |
| jelkner | but i think not for long | 12:58 |
| replaceafill | jelkner, i just don't know how to solve it properly | 12:58 |
| jelkner | we may just have multiple databases | 12:58 |
| replaceafill | jelkner, that thought has crossed my mind | 12:58 |
| jelkner | that again, for better or worse, is one of the nice things about sql | 12:58 |
| jelkner | it isn't hard to copy data from mysql to postgresql | 12:59 |
| jelkner | and we could automate that | 12:59 |
| replaceafill | jelkner, that's the idea | 12:59 |
| jelkner | all the while reaching out to the civicrm community | 12:59 |
| jelkner | and finding a core developer who likes what we are doing and wants to work on postresql support from civicrm | 13:00 |
| jelkner | this is going to be a wild ride | 13:00 |
| jelkner | if we are even half way successful, it will move fast, and involve serious resources | 13:00 |
| jelkner | mr_german, r u here? | 13:01 |
| mr_german | yes jelkner | 13:01 |
| jelkner | do you have time to work on rand's request? | 13:01 |
| jelkner | he and labor4ourrev are so important to our project | 13:02 |
| jelkner | i don't want to keep him waiting too long | 13:02 |
| mr_german | jelkner, at the momemnt I'm working on Elizabeth's site | 13:02 |
| mr_german | moment* | 13:02 |
| jelkner | will that take all day? | 13:02 |
| mr_german | no | 13:02 |
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| jelkner | z0nny, you are blocked on the national hostipal site for now, yes? | 13:03 |
| zOnny | yes! jeff | 13:04 |
| mr_german | replaceafill, could you help me with that? | 13:05 |
| mjsir911 | z0nny check ur private messages | 13:06 |
| replaceafill | mr_german, help with what? | 13:06 |
| mr_german | replaceafill, help with Rand's request | 13:07 |
| mr_german | maybe you could explain me more better, because I have some questions | 13:07 |
| replaceafill | mr_german, what is it that you don't understand? | 13:08 |
| mr_german | replaceafill, things like "We are going to need a place where people can sign up and volunteer" | 13:09 |
| replaceafill | jelkner, where's the "first user story" that you mention in your email to Rand and Amity? | 13:09 |
| replaceafill | jelkner, ah never mind | 13:09 |
| replaceafill | jelkner, i'm an idiot... but you know that already :D | 13:09 |
| replaceafill | mr_german, i think you just need a button/link for that | 13:12 |
| jelkner | lol, replaceafill | 13:12 |
| replaceafill | mr_german, you don't need to *implement* the sign up page | 13:13 |
| replaceafill | jelkner, i was looking for issues | 13:13 |
| replaceafill | jelkner, but you used milestones :) | 13:13 |
| mr_german | lol | 13:13 |
| jelkner | yeah, that was mjsir911's suggest | 13:13 |
| jelkner | i'll put the blame on him | 13:14 |
| jelkner | since gitlab has new features | 13:14 |
| replaceafill | jelkner, hhmm, a milestone is usually a collection of issues | 13:15 |
| jelkner | yes, i understand | 13:15 |
| replaceafill | jelkner, i mean, you gather issues that you want solved by a particular date | 13:15 |
| mjsir911 | mileston=long term goal | 13:15 |
| mjsir911 | issues=short term thing/part of mileston | 13:15 |
| jelkner | i think that will be the case for each of the milestone's i filed | 13:15 |
| jelkner | you may have to fill in some of the issues yourself | 13:15 |
| jelkner | since you know how to break it down better than me | 13:16 |
| jelkner | and please tell me if you think any of the milestones i filled aren't "big" enough to be milestones | 13:16 |
| jelkner | i figured they were | 13:16 |
| jelkner | i'll need to be trained on this | 13:16 |
| replaceafill | jelkner, sure | 13:17 |
| replaceafill | jelkner, we'll figure it out along the way :) | 13:17 |
| jelkner | yup, the agile way ;-) | 13:18 |
| replaceafill | mr_german, does my button/link suggestion makes sense? | 13:18 |
| replaceafill | make* | 13:18 |
| mr_german | replaceafill, yes | 13:19 |
| jelkner | oh, btw, just pointing the browser at the ip address of the vm automatically loads the install.php page | 13:19 |
| jelkner | it is asking me to select between "standard" and "minimal" | 13:19 |
| replaceafill | jelkner, drupal is smart :) | 13:19 |
| replaceafill | jelkner, you can read about that here: https://www.drupal.org/docs/7/installing-drupal-7/step-4-run-the-installation-script | 13:20 |
| replaceafill | jelkner, just go with standard | 13:20 |
| jelkner | okie dokie, back to my installation... | 13:20 |
| replaceafill | mr_german, let me and jelkner know if you don't understand something else | 13:21 |
| mr_german | k | 13:22 |
| mr_german | thanks | 13:22 |
| replaceafill | jelkner, interesting discussion in the drutopia issue Ben linked | 13:26 |
| replaceafill | jelkner, looks like some people want a "simpler" solution | 13:27 |
| jelkner | i will read that shortly | 13:27 |
| replaceafill | ACTION stops interrupting jelkner | 13:28 |
| jelkner | first let me try to finish this civicrm installation ;-) | 13:28 |
| replaceafill | go go go! | 13:28 |
| jelkner | not at all, replaceafill, i need to read those things | 13:28 |
| jelkner | it's just that i can't walk and chew gum at the same time | 13:28 |
| replaceafill | :) | 13:28 |
| jelkner | much less install and read | 13:28 |
| mr_german | jelkner, I want to show you | 13:31 |
| mr_german | this | 13:31 |
| mr_german | http://labor4ourrev.org | 13:31 |
| jelkner | yes, i've seen it | 13:32 |
| jelkner | i've even updated my local git repo for it | 13:33 |
| jelkner | this is going to force us to learn jekyll | 13:33 |
| jelkner | jekyl | 13:33 |
| jelkner | or however you spell it | 13:33 |
| jelkner | oh, btw, i meant to send that image to ncerna to produce an svg | 13:34 |
| jelkner | the logo i mean | 13:34 |
| jelkner | but it is now in the repo | 13:34 |
| jelkner | so you have it | 13:34 |
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| mr_german | jelkner, can you see the changes? | 13:35 |
| jelkner | they take a few minutes to update | 13:35 |
| mr_german | oh | 13:35 |
| mr_german | k | 13:35 |
| jelkner | so i usually look at them on my local machine | 13:35 |
| jelkner | and trust they will appear on the deployed site in time | 13:36 |
| jelkner | i don't know how long it takes | 13:36 |
| jelkner | but there is a delay | 13:36 |
| mr_german | jelkner, try ctrl + shift + r | 13:37 |
| jelkner | so what do you want me to look at? | 13:38 |
| jelkner | i see the about me page | 13:38 |
| jelkner | not about me | 13:39 |
| jelkner | but rather about | 13:39 |
| mr_german | jelkner, nvm, I need to add the rest of the info | 13:45 |
| mjsir911 | zOnny, are you there? | 13:49 |
| mr_german | ACTION goes to lunch | 13:53 |
| zOnny | hello guys.. | 13:54 |
| zOnny | hello mr_german | 13:57 |
| jelkner | replaceafill, any suggestions (or requirements) for naming my database? | 14:06 |
| jelkner | i'm at that screen | 14:06 |
| jelkner | and don't know how to proceed | 14:07 |
| jelkner | never mind | 14:09 |
| jelkner | it is drupalsite | 14:09 |
| jelkner | but i don't know the password | 14:11 |
| jelkner | replaceafill, r u here? | 14:11 |
| jelkner | well, no red asterisk, perhaps it's not required | 14:12 |
| jelkner | nope, that didn't work | 14:14 |
| jelkner | it needs a password | 14:14 |
| mr_german | ACTION is back | 14:39 |
| jelkner | !remind Briefly discuss https://opensource.com/business/16/2/top-6-open-source-crm-tools-2016 | 14:53 |
| jelkner | !remind How should we share our user stories with Agaric? | 14:54 |
| replaceafill | ACTION is back | 16:04 |
| replaceafill | jelkner, sorry for the late reply, we had the inlaws visiting | 16:04 |
| jelkner | np, replaceafill | 16:04 |
| replaceafill | jelkner, the database/username/password for the drupal site should be 'drupalsite' | 16:04 |
| replaceafill | jelkner, i mean, if you've been following the gist | 16:05 |
| jelkner | i have been replaceafill | 16:06 |
| jelkner | but don't know what to do for email | 16:06 |
| jelkner | i failed on that | 16:06 |
| jelkner | i tried using drupal@localhost | 16:07 |
| jelkner | it failed | 16:07 |
| replaceafill | jelkner, i suggest using a dummy one | 16:07 |
| replaceafill | jelkner, that can be changed later | 16:07 |
| jelkner | such as? | 16:07 |
| replaceafill | jelkner, jelkner@example.com? | 16:07 |
| jelkner | dummyone@novawebdevelopment.org ? | 16:07 |
| jelkner | dummyone@example.com | 16:07 |
| jelkner | ok | 16:07 |
| jelkner | let me see if it will let me resume where i left off | 16:08 |
| jelkner | i shut down the server without finishing | 16:08 |
| jelkner | replaceafill, i've read the docs ben sent | 16:08 |
| jelkner | it seems pretty clear to me that civicrm is the only game in town | 16:08 |
| jelkner | i'm a bit uneasy that isn't clear to them | 16:09 |
| jelkner | but it may be because they are doing what we are doing | 16:09 |
| replaceafill | jelkner, right | 16:09 |
| jelkner | perhaps they want a customer relations management (CRM) | 16:09 |
| jelkner | we want a *constituent relations management (CRM) | 16:10 |
| jelkner | the only one of those that looks for real is civicrm | 16:10 |
| jelkner | but i'm glad he brought this up | 16:10 |
| jelkner | i want to move forward ASAP with reaching out to the CiviCRM community | 16:11 |
| jelkner | i've already started lurking on the irc channel | 16:11 |
| replaceafill | jelkner, it's like what i said a few weeks ago, civi is a "monster" | 16:11 |
| jelkner | understoon | 16:11 |
| jelkner | d | 16:11 |
| replaceafill | jelkner, and it seems like they want something lightweight | 16:11 |
| jelkner | we don't | 16:12 |
| jelkner | i mean, of course we like as lightweight as possible | 16:12 |
| jelkner | lol | 16:12 |
| jelkner | but we want to go up against action network and nation builder | 16:12 |
| jelkner | we ain't gonna do that with some custom lightweight thing | 16:12 |
| replaceafill | :D | 16:14 |
| replaceafill | jelkner, it may have to be with user friendliness too | 16:15 |
| replaceafill | jelkner, anyway, i guess we're sold | 16:16 |
| replaceafill | jelkner, i know i am :) | 16:16 |
| replaceafill | jelkner, but i can't say i evaluated many alternatives ;) | 16:16 |
| jelkner | we can't afford to screw around | 16:16 |
| jelkner | what alternatives? | 16:16 |
| jelkner | a few years back we looked at some python ones | 16:16 |
| replaceafill | jelkner, like Ben said "open source alternatives" | 16:16 |
| replaceafill | ""Can you share what evaluation of open source CRM tools you've done?" | 16:17 |
| mr_german | jelkner, I am working on labor4ourrev but, I have a few questions :$ | 16:17 |
| jelkner | in addition to investigation pointed to CiviCRM as the only *constituent* relations management software in the the free software space | 16:17 |
| jelkner | the fact that FSF and Creative Commons both use it is compelling | 16:18 |
| jelkner | i think the only thing we are missing to make the final leap is some ties with the community | 16:18 |
| jelkner | we should start with https://aghstrategies.com/ | 16:19 |
| jelkner | I was thinking ubuntourist would want to take the lead on that | 16:19 |
| replaceafill | +1 | 16:19 |
| jelkner | but he hasn't done it | 16:19 |
| jelkner | so i will now | 16:19 |
| jelkner | ACTION goes to email sanjay | 16:19 |
| replaceafill | awesome | 16:19 |
| replaceafill | mr_german, you should just shoot your questions :) | 16:20 |
| mr_german | jelkner, I've created a button called "about us", and also I've put the info the rand said. | 16:23 |
| mr_german | jelkner, but, I don't know if that's all for now? | 16:23 |
| jelkner | he really wants to know if Facebook posts can show up on the home page | 16:24 |
| jelkner | he is looking for a kind of poor man's CMS | 16:24 |
| mr_german | oh | 16:25 |
| jelkner | since if we could set that up, he could update the website by just posting to Facebook | 16:25 |
| jelkner | you should ask replaceafill about that | 16:25 |
| replaceafill | mr_german, you already know how to do that | 16:25 |
| jelkner | replaceafill, just got off the phone with AGH Strategies | 16:26 |
| replaceafill | mr_german, it's the same set of "plugins" you used for the rotary club | 16:26 |
| mr_german | replaceafill, oh | 16:26 |
| jelkner | a delightful woman answered the phone | 16:26 |
| mr_german | I got it | 16:26 |
| jelkner | see what you can do with that, mr_german | 16:26 |
| jelkner | when i told her briefly what we wanted to do, she said we should get in touch with their "principle", Andrew Hunt | 16:27 |
| jelkner | I said I would put him in touch with our "principle", Douglas Cerna | 16:28 |
| replaceafill | jelkner, it thought it was "principal" | 16:28 |
| replaceafill | lol | 16:28 |
| mr_german | k jelkner | 16:28 |
| jelkner | i think your right | 16:28 |
| jelkner | i can't spell | 16:28 |
| jelkner | the one in a school is principal | 16:28 |
| jelkner | we learned that since the principal is your "pal", you can remember that | 16:28 |
| replaceafill | :S | 16:29 |
| replaceafill | jelkner, Sanjay still works with AGH, correct? | 16:29 |
| jelkner | she said yes, but now and then | 16:30 |
| replaceafill | ah | 16:30 |
| jelkner | so we should really communicate directly with Andrew | 16:30 |
| jelkner | https://aghstrategies.com/staff#andrewbio | 16:30 |
| jelkner | confirmed, it's Principal ;-) | 16:30 |
| replaceafill | jelkner, your point keeps confirming "I didn’t seek out data management" | 16:32 |
| jelkner | perhaps, but it came looking for you! | 16:32 |
| jelkner | now let me send this email | 16:32 |
| jelkner | please | 16:32 |
| replaceafill | ACTION shuts his keys | 16:33 |
| jelkner | email sent | 16:49 |
| mr_german | replaceafill, it should be full width | 16:57 |
| mr_german | because I can put it on the sidebar | 16:57 |
| replaceafill | mr_german, it's tricky indeed | 16:58 |
| replaceafill | mr_german, i don't know how much control you have on the facebook layout | 16:58 |
| mr_german | replaceafill, let me end this, and then i'll show you | 16:59 |
| replaceafill | mr_german, as far as i understand the posts should be the "main" content | 16:59 |
| replaceafill | mr_german, kk | 16:59 |
| mr_german | replaceafill, i'll restart my pc | 17:17 |
| mr_german | brb | 17:17 |
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| mr_german | im back | 17:19 |
| mr_german | replaceafill, mmm | 17:31 |
| mr_german | replaceafill, max width for every plugin is 500px | 17:33 |
| replaceafill | mr_german, even if you modify the data-... attribute in the page? | 17:35 |
| mr_german | it doesn't work either | 17:35 |
| mr_german | replaceafill, im trying to find the way to make it full width | 17:36 |
| mr_german | if I use "data-width="100%" the plugin disappear | 17:38 |
| replaceafill | mr_german, i think that has to be an integer | 17:39 |
| replaceafill | mr_german, not a css unit | 17:39 |
| replaceafill | mr_german, if i understand correctly, the plugin renders in an iframe element, correct? | 17:44 |
| mr_german | yes | 17:55 |
| mr_german | replaceafill, q | 17:55 |
| mr_german | you're right | 17:55 |
| mr_german | replaceafill, there are two ways to use the plugin | 17:56 |
| mr_german | via iFrame | 17:56 |
| mr_german | or Java & html | 17:56 |
| mr_german | "SDK JAVASCRIPT" | 17:57 |
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| replaceafill | mr_german, if it's loaded via an iframe there's not much you can do | 18:18 |
| mr_german | i know | 18:18 |
| mr_german | that's why i'm using SDK javascript | 18:19 |
| replaceafill | mr_german, what's the sdk javascript? | 18:19 |
| replaceafill | mr_german, url? | 18:19 |
| mr_german | replaceafill, https://developers.facebook.com/docs/plugins/page-plugin/ | 18:20 |
| mr_german | when you click "get code" | 18:21 |
| replaceafill | mr_german, that's the iframe i mentioned | 18:21 |
| mr_german | I'm using metod "sdk java" | 18:21 |
| replaceafill | mr_german, i don't know what you mean by "sdk java"? | 18:22 |
| mr_german | .... | 18:22 |
| replaceafill | mr_german, i still don't understand... | 18:25 |
| mr_german | replaceafill, https://pastebin.com/nSfruqZn | 18:26 |
| mr_german | replaceafill, I am not using iFrame | 18:26 |
| replaceafill | mr_german, yes.. that'll load an iframe | 18:27 |
| replaceafill | mr_german, render the page and inspect its elements | 18:27 |
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| louisea | !remind Update on loan application process | 18:57 |
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| louisea | !remind update on news from potential clients/upcoming projects | 18:59 |
| Big_Brother | Briefly discuss https://opensource.com/business/16/2/top-6-open-source-crm-tools-2016 | 19:00 |
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| jelkner | take away, louisea! | 19:00 |
| louisea | Hello everyone! | 19:00 |
| Rena_ | hello | 19:00 |
| louisea | nice to see you again this week | 19:00 |
| nrcerna | hello | 19:01 |
| ubuntourist | ACTION tips his hat | 19:01 |
| louisea | So, let's jump in. Shall we start with the first two topics that Big_Brother has reminded us of? | 19:01 |
| jelkner | sure | 19:01 |
| jelkner | i'll be real brief | 19:01 |
| jelkner | as we prepare to offer civicrm support | 19:01 |
| jelkner | and are reaching out to other coops, one of them asked what kind of crm investigation we had done | 19:02 |
| jelkner | so i'm sharing that link | 19:02 |
| jelkner | we haven't tried out other crm systems | 19:03 |
| jelkner | but everything i've read indicates to me that civicrm is the only thing that is remotely close to what we are trying to do | 19:03 |
| jelkner | most crm are for businesses | 19:03 |
| jelkner | not political organizations | 19:03 |
| jelkner | anyway, i think replaceafill will confirm this assesment | 19:04 |
| replaceafill | correct | 19:04 |
| jelkner | and we started directly reaching out to the civicrm community today | 19:04 |
| jelkner | we need to make friends there | 19:04 |
| jelkner | so i'll continue to focus on that | 19:04 |
| jelkner | ok, i'm done | 19:04 |
| louisea | when you say the civicrm community are you referring to ACH or something like that? | 19:04 |
| louisea | I forget the acronym | 19:05 |
| jelkner | that is just one local business that does civicrm support | 19:05 |
| jelkner | but civi has a global community | 19:05 |
| jelkner | and a core group of developers | 19:05 |
| ubuntourist | Andrew G Hunt, CEO of AGH | 19:05 |
| jelkner | i've set my hexchat to have me join #civicrm whenever i start | 19:06 |
| jelkner | so i'll lurk there for awhile | 19:06 |
| jelkner | and then speak up and introduce myself at some point | 19:06 |
| louisea | just out of curiosity, when you say you're reaching out to the CiviCRM community specifically AGH or is it the core group of developers for Civi? | 19:07 |
| ubuntourist | Quoting Wikipedia "It [CiviCRM] is specifically designed for the needs of non-profit, non-governmental, and advocacy groups..." Hence a good fit. | 19:07 |
| jelkner | replaceafill, can you address the 2nd item? | 19:09 |
| jelkner | i want to respond to our friends in boston (the agaric coop) | 19:09 |
| jelkner | but i don't know how to show them our user stories | 19:09 |
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| louisea | deja vu... | 19:09 |
| jelkner | i dropped | 19:09 |
| jelkner | what did ya'll miss? | 19:10 |
| replaceafill | in my opinion we need a way to organize ourselves | 19:10 |
| replaceafill | that's why i choose gitlab | 19:10 |
| replaceafill | because it allows you to have private groups/repos | 19:10 |
| replaceafill | (for free) | 19:10 |
| replaceafill | sharing those were never my goal | 19:10 |
| replaceafill | was* | 19:10 |
| jelkner | ok | 19:11 |
| jelkner | but if we want real collaboration with "customers" like amity and rand | 19:11 |
| jelkner | they will need access | 19:11 |
| jelkner | (or whomever wants to act as customer) | 19:12 |
| jelkner | so we can get them a gitlab account | 19:12 |
| jelkner | right? | 19:12 |
| replaceafill | you're are the proxy for me | 19:12 |
| jelkner | ? | 19:12 |
| replaceafill | you can take their input and convert it for us? | 19:12 |
| jelkner | ahh | 19:12 |
| jelkner | ok | 19:12 |
| jelkner | i can do that | 19:13 |
| replaceafill | i usually work best when i'm shielded from users :D | 19:13 |
| jelkner | lol | 19:13 |
| replaceafill | i mean | 19:13 |
| replaceafill | it's not like i don't want to know anything about them | 19:13 |
| replaceafill | but sometimes it's good to first "digest" their request | 19:13 |
| replaceafill | before converting that into actions | 19:13 |
| jelkner | we worked that way with SchoolTool, so i'm ok with that | 19:14 |
| replaceafill | +1 | 19:14 |
| jelkner | dwelsh and i acted as proxies for the other teachers | 19:14 |
| replaceafill | yes | 19:14 |
| jelkner | ACTION notes to self, replaceafill doesn't like talking to teacher ;-) | 19:14 |
| replaceafill | :D | 19:14 |
| jelkner | ok, move on | 19:15 |
| ubuntourist | jelkner, so that's why he talks to you? ;-) | 19:15 |
| louisea | okay great, next point, which will be quick, is the update on the loan application progress | 19:15 |
| louisea | we have put in a loan to Local Enterprise Assistance Fund for $40,000 | 19:16 |
| louisea | jelkner is in communication with Rand Wilson who sits on the board and encouraged us to put in the application | 19:16 |
| louisea | so that is hopeful | 19:16 |
| louisea | so now we wait to hear back | 19:17 |
| jelkner | ACTION crosses his fingers and toes | 19:17 |
| louisea | jelkner: anything to add? | 19:17 |
| jelkner | nope | 19:17 |
| louisea | great | 19:17 |
| jelkner | Rena_, how is your php? | 19:18 |
| Rena_ | not great | 19:18 |
| Rena_ | My brother works a lot with it so I have a way to learn | 19:18 |
| jelkner | well if we are successfull in what we are trying to do, there will be *a lot* of work in civicrm for us | 19:18 |
| jelkner | more than we could currently handle | 19:19 |
| Rena_ | alright | 19:19 |
| Rena_ | keep me posted how its going and I'll learn whats needed | 19:19 |
| jelkner | great | 19:19 |
| jelkner | mr_german will be doing that too | 19:19 |
| mr_german | yep | 19:20 |
| jelkner | and z0nny next year with me | 19:20 |
| jelkner | what else, louisea? | 19:20 |
| zOnny | cool :) | 19:20 |
| louisea | the final point is in regards to any news from potential clients/upcoming projects | 19:20 |
| louisea | I'll mention that | 19:21 |
| louisea | I have reached out to ICA-group (International Cooperative Alliance I think) | 19:21 |
| jelkner | yup | 19:21 |
| louisea | asking for assistance with developing a formal business plan | 19:21 |
| louisea | which we will need when we reach out to the world | 19:21 |
| Rena_ | btw http://www.barbarachambers.org/ is still down | 19:22 |
| louisea | *as we reach out to the world | 19:22 |
| louisea | Rena_: let's chat afterwards | 19:22 |
| louisea | briefly | 19:22 |
| ubuntourist | I'll hunt through earlier e-mails, but I seem to remember sending out links to tech co-op organizing resources... | 19:22 |
| louisea | Rena_ can I give you a call? | 19:23 |
| louisea | ubuntourist: thanks | 19:23 |
| jelkner | ncerna, we have a logo for you to convert to svg | 19:23 |
| Rena_ | I have dinner (right now) can we call at 8? | 19:24 |
| replaceafill | jelkner, it's nrcerna, with an "r" :) | 19:24 |
| nrcerna | ok i will do it =) | 19:24 |
| jelkner | ah | 19:24 |
| louisea | Rena_ I can't do 8 | 19:24 |
| jelkner | my bad | 19:24 |
| jelkner | nrcerna, did mr_german tell you about that? | 19:24 |
| louisea | Rena_ scratch that. I'll call then | 19:24 |
| Rena_ | ok, just call then, I can wait a couple minutes more before getting food | 19:24 |
| nrcerna | not yet | 19:25 |
| nrcerna | jelkner, | 19:25 |
| louisea | Rena_ lol okay, 7:30 is much better for me, it'll be quick | 19:25 |
| Rena_ | ¯\_(ツ)_/¯ | 19:25 |
| jelkner | nice | 19:25 |
| louisea | Alright, well is that for group discussion? | 19:25 |
| jelkner | it will be once you ... | 19:25 |
| louisea | *drops the bag of gravel | 19:26 |
| louisea | damn... | 19:26 |
| jelkner | lol | 19:26 |
| louisea | messed it up | 19:26 |
| replaceafill | :D | 19:26 |
| jelkner | ok everyone | 19:26 |
| jelkner | later | 19:26 |
| replaceafill | thanks everybody | 19:26 |
| jelkner | i will be visiting nj next week | 19:26 |
| jelkner | so i'll miss the meeting | 19:26 |
| replaceafill | mr_german, could you update nrcerna on the svg situation? | 19:26 |
| nrcerna | mr_german, hangouts? | 19:26 |
| replaceafill | jelkner, ah ok | 19:27 |
| replaceafill | jelkner, we'll need to talk about Rand's facebook request | 19:27 |
| jelkner | i'll be with my 102 year old grandma | 19:27 |
| jelkner | ok | 19:27 |
| jelkner | i'm shoot | 19:27 |
| jelkner | i mean, shoot | 19:27 |
| replaceafill | mr_german, want to take it? | 19:27 |
| replaceafill | mr_german, is there any problem? | 19:28 |
| replaceafill | mr_german, are you here? | 19:29 |
| jelkner | mjsir911, z0nny, ubuntourist just confirmed 9:30 am on saturday at gallaudet | 19:29 |
| replaceafill | sigh... | 19:30 |
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| replaceafill | mr_german, ping | 19:30 |
| mr_german | im back | 19:30 |
| mr_german | I lost my connection | 19:31 |
| mr_german | lol | 19:31 |
| replaceafill | mr_german, can you describe the facebook situation for the labor page? | 19:31 |
| mr_german | oh yeah | 19:31 |
| replaceafill | mr_german, is there any problem with the design? | 19:31 |
| mr_german | the problem is facebook doesn't allow you to change the width of the plugin | 19:32 |
| mr_german | 500px as maximum | 19:32 |
| jelkner | can you design around that limitation? | 19:32 |
| jelkner | put it somewhere where 500px looks good | 19:33 |
| jelkner | and use the rest of the space for other things? | 19:33 |
| replaceafill | jelkner, posts can't be the "main" content, but they could be used in a sidebar or something | 19:33 |
| jelkner | exactly | 19:33 |
| replaceafill | mr_german, makes sense? | 19:33 |
| jelkner | rand just wants something dynamic happening on the front page | 19:33 |
| jelkner | so that it isn't the same all the time | 19:33 |
| mr_german | oh | 19:33 |
| mr_german | k | 19:33 |
| jelkner | so that people will visit it | 19:33 |
| jelkner | he was asking me about whether he could update things himself | 19:34 |
| mr_german | in that case, I can put it on the sidebar | 19:34 |
| jelkner | i told him that requires a cms | 19:34 |
| jelkner | so not now | 19:34 |
| replaceafill | jelkner, makes sense | 19:34 |
| replaceafill | mr_german, you can continue now, yes? | 19:35 |
| jelkner | z0nny, mjsir911, can you please confirm you saw my message about saturday? | 19:35 |
| mr_german | replaceafill, yep | 19:36 |
| mjsir911 | I can confirm | 19:36 |
| replaceafill | jelkner, mr_german thanks, i'm done | 19:36 |
| jelkner | later gaters | 19:36 |
| mr_german | o/ | 19:36 |
| replaceafill | nrcerna, get in touch with mr_german for the logo | 19:36 |
| replaceafill | nrcerna, ok? | 19:36 |
| jelkner | z0nny, we will be asking you for a ride again | 19:36 |
| nrcerna | ok replaceafill | 19:36 |
| replaceafill | nrcerna, thanks! | 19:36 |
| zOnny | i | 19:36 |
| jelkner | replaceafill, can we do a brief hangout afterward to talk team guanaco finances? | 19:37 |
| replaceafill | jelkner, sure | 19:37 |
| jelkner | ACTION signs off | 19:38 |
| zOnny | no problem jelkner, you don't need ask for ride. | 19:38 |
| mr_german | ACTION done | 19:38 |
| jelkner | oh, z0nny, before i go, remind me to talk to you tomorrow morning about aspect ratio | 19:38 |
| jelkner | i'll remember | 19:39 |
| replaceafill | jelkner, read | 19:39 |
| replaceafill | y | 19:39 |
| mr_german | cya tomorrow replaceafill | 19:40 |
| mr_german | o/ | 19:40 |
| replaceafill | later mr_german | 19:40 |
| nrcerna | see you guys | 19:42 |
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