IRC log of #novawebdev for Wednesday, 2017-07-26

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dsmalljelkner, Can you ask louis to email me what wants me to do?09:01
jelknerdo you have his email?09:01
dsmalljelkner, Oh right, nevermind09:02
jelknerhe is at work09:02
jelknerso email him early09:03
jelknerit may take him a bit to reply09:03
jelkneri talked to him last night09:03
jelknerso he knows you only have today and friday left09:03
jelknerin the mean time, i'm working on civicrm installation:
jelkneri blocked yesterday on email setup09:04
jelknerso i'm going to run through it again this morning09:05
jelkner(and again and again until i have reproducible steps ;-)09:05
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jelknerreplaceafill, r u here?12:22
replaceafilljelkner, yes12:22
jelkneri was about to send you an email titled "step-by-step, inch-by-inch" ;-)12:22
jelkneri've successfully completed drupal installation12:22
jelknercivi is causing some problems12:23
replaceafilljelkner, what problems?12:23
jelkneryou can see where i got here:
jelknerwhen i fill in the proper database, database user, and password, most things turn green12:24
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jelknerexcept there is a write permission problem on a directory12:24
replaceafilljelkner, can you share a traceback? pastebin.com12:26
jelknerone thing i love about kvms is that i can just save the qcow2 images at different points and repeat the process from there12:26
jelkneri'll need to do that again12:26
replaceafilljelkner, oh, looking at the gist12:27
jelkneryes, i'm working from the gist12:27
replaceafilljelkner, never mind, that's not related12:27
replaceafilljelkner, i think this: "* Fix permissions of" means the directory is visible in the browser12:27
replaceafilljelkner, is there anything you can copy/paste?12:28
jelknernot now12:28
replaceafilljelkner, ok12:28
jelkneri need to repeat a bunch of steps12:28
jelkneri'll get on that now12:28
replaceafilljelkner, ok12:28
replaceafillif only there was a way to automate this installation process...12:28
jelknerwe have to get mjsir911 on this!12:45
jelknergive us a docker container image12:46
jelkneror something12:46
jelkneranyway, step-by-step, inch-by-inch12:46
replaceafilljelkner, :)12:55
replaceafilljelkner, i don't think that's part of the initial plan :P12:55
replaceafilljelkner, but hopefully we'll have an ansible playbook soon to use12:56
jelknerwhatever you decide, sir12:56
jelkneryou write the instructions, i follow them ;-)12:56
replaceafilljelkner, you're doomed, sir12:56
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jelknerreplaceafill, i'm ready13:36
mr_germanjelkner, I used "sudo chmod 777 /var/www/html/sites/default"13:37
mr_germanand it works for me13:37
jelkneryes, mr_german, but that isn't secure at all13:39
jelknergranting *everyone* write permission13:40
jelknermeans *anyone* can write there13:40
jelknerwhat i just did was:13:40
jelkner$ cd /var/www/html13:40
jelkner$ sudo chown -R www-data.www-data *13:41
replaceafilljelkner, i think that's fine for a dev environment13:41
jelkner$ sudo chmod 755 sites/default13:41
replaceafilljelkner, until we figure it out correctly13:41
jelknerwhat i just wrote works13:42
jelknerand seems more sensible13:42
jelknersince apache2 runs as www-data13:42
replaceafilljelkner, well...13:42
jelknerbut your the boss ;-)13:42
replaceafilljelkner, the 7 is the dangerous part really13:42
jelkner7 is ok if it is only for www-data13:42
jelkneryou can't login as www-data13:43
replaceafilljelkner, right13:43
jelkneranyway, r u ok with me writing the process as i outlined it?13:43
jelknerin fact i'll use full paths so copy paste still works13:43
replaceafilljelkner, sure13:44
jelknerok, let me try these out13:47
mr_germanjelkner, can you take a look?13:53
mr_germanreplaceafill, that's all I can do13:56
mr_germanthe good thing, it looks very nice on mobile13:57
jelknermr_german, since facebook is blocked, i'll have to look at it this evening13:58
jelkneri'm still finishing with civicrm setup, but is everything rand asked for done?13:58
mr_germanjelkner, I think so.13:59
jelknergreat, man, thanks!14:00
mr_germanjelkner, one more thing14:00
mr_germanjelkner, Maybe I should change the facebook icon for Email14:00
mr_germanjelkner, what do you think?14:00
jelknerthere still needs to be a way to get to the facebook page14:01
replaceafillmr_german, use screenshots to show jelkner14:01
replaceafillmr_german, imgur.com14:01
mr_germanoh 14:01
mr_germanlet me show you14:01
replaceafillmr_german, tbh it looks weird14:01
jelknerand he asked for a link to action network, yes?14:01
mr_germanreplaceafill, "tbh"?14:01
replaceafillmr_german, to be honest14:01
replaceafillmr_german, i think you should try another approach14:02
replaceafillmr_german, but show jelkner a screenshot first14:02
replaceafillmr_german, showing a desktop browser14:02
replaceafillthis is how it looks on mine:
replaceafillok, time for me go go14:04
replaceafillACTION bb in ~4514:04
mr_germanreplaceafill, same on my desktop14:04
replaceafillmr_german, you should have it as a sidebar14:04
replaceafillmr_german, and an empty content area14:05
mr_germanreplaceafill, k14:05
replaceafillmr_german, but you're the designer ;)14:05
replaceafillmr_german, design!14:05
replaceafilllater guys14:05
jelknerwhat next?14:11
jelknerhow do you start experimenting with it?14:11
jelknerok, tomorrow is another day ;-)14:11
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replaceafillACTION is back14:57
replaceafilljelkner, great!14:57
replaceafilljelkner, that's *the* question, how do we use it14:57
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mr_germanACTION goes to lunch15:08
jelkneri found another civicrm "ambassador" in dc15:18
jelknerthey are hiring15:18
jelknerthat's a good sign15:18
replaceafilljelkner, hhmm hiring post is from 2015 :S15:19
jelknerthat's a bad sign :-(15:19
jelknerthey don't update their website15:20
jelknerthere as bad as those nova web development folks15:20
jelkneranyway, do you just interact with it through drupal?15:21
jelkneri loaded the sample data15:21
jelknerhow can I "see" it?15:21
jelkneri'll start looking online15:21
jelknerbut if you find anything first, please share with the rest of us15:21
replaceafilljelkner, sure, i loaded the data too but didn't manage to check it15:21
jelknerok, if i figure it out15:22
jelkneri'll be sure to share15:22
replaceafillACTION is personally interested in smart groups :)15:23
mr_germanACTION is back15:35
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mr_germanjelkner, are you there16:23
jelkneri am16:23
jelknerbut i'm leaving soon16:23
jelknerwhat's up?16:23
mr_germanone quick question16:24
mr_germanRand said in the email "We are going to need a place where we can post reports"16:24
mr_german"I've attached a few"16:24
jelknercan you add a link to a "Reports" page16:25
jelknerand have links on that page to the reports he gave you?16:25
jelknerseems like a common request16:25
jelknerAEA needed that too16:25
mr_germanyeah but my question16:25
jelknermost organizations will16:25
mr_germanall of them?16:26
jelknerwhy not?16:26
jelknerhe wouldn't have given them to you if he didn't want them included16:26
jelknersure thing16:26
jelknertalk to you tomorrow16:26
mr_germani'll send an email tonight16:26
mr_germanto rand16:27
mr_germancya 16:27
jelknerreplaceafill, r u here?16:27
replaceafilljelkner, yes16:27
jelkneri'm having permissons problems i think16:27
jelkneri found the civicrm directory16:27
jelknerbut when i point at pages like:
jelkneri see nothing16:28
jelknerit's what you see when php isn't running them16:28
replaceafilljelkner, hhmm16:29
replaceafilljelkner, what do you mean by "found the civicrm directory"?16:30
jelknergood point16:31
jelkneri mean i found lots of civicrm related .php pages16:31
jelknersprinkled around the /var/www/html directory16:31
jelknerthis won't load either16:32
replaceafilljelkner, how are you navigating there?16:32
jelkneractually, i can find other civicrm related stuff through the drupal panel16:35
jelknerthat works16:35
replaceafilljelkner, this is how my /var/www/html looks like:
jelknermine looks like that too16:35
jelknerso Civi.php for example is located relative to that16:36
jelknerin sites/all/modules/civicrm16:36
replaceafilljelkner, if you mean you can access that directory through your browser and see its contents16:37
replaceafilljelkner, that's a security issue16:37
jelkneryes, i understand16:37
replaceafilljelkner, if you see the gist, there's a TODO section at the bottom16:37
jelknerbut i'm less concerned with security at this point than i am with access16:37
replaceafilljelkner, indeed16:38
jelkneri just want to see the sample data16:38
jelknerbrowse it16:38
jelknerand a new contact16:38
replaceafilljelkner, you haven't been able to?16:38
jelknerwhere is it?16:38
replaceafilli pasted a url to that doc16:38
jelknerwhich doc?16:38
replaceafilljelkner, hold on16:38
replaceafilljelkner, ^16:39
jelkneri saw this16:39
jelknerbut i don't see where it contains the url for my vm16:39
jelkneri have a kvm that supposedly has civicrm16:41
replaceafilljelkner, you don't see drupal when you load http://your_ip?16:42
jelknerdrupal yes16:42
jelknerwhere in drupal is civicrm?16:42
replaceafilljelkner, can you log in as admin?16:42
replaceafilljelkner, maybe you haven't activated it16:42
replaceafilljelkner, i mean the civicrm module16:42
jelkneri only did what you told me16:43
jelkneri followed your recipe16:43
jelknerif it didn't tell me there, i didn't do it16:43
replaceafilljelkner, ok...16:43
replaceafilljelkner, that's only installation16:43
replaceafilljelkner, you need to activate civi as an admin16:43
jelknernow we are making progress, my friend16:44
jelkneri finished the installation16:44
replaceafilljelkner, if you are able to see the dashboard links at the top16:44
jelkneri'm asking what's next?16:44
replaceafilljelkner, there's a Modules link16:44
jelkner    Home16:44
jelkner    Hello drupalsite16:44
jelkner    Log out16:44
jelknerAdministrative toolbar16:44
jelkner    Dashboard (View and customize your dashboard.)16:44
jelkner    Content (Administer content and comments.)16:44
jelkner    Structure (Administer blocks, content types, menus, etc.)16:44
jelkner    Appearance (Select and configure your themes.)16:44
jelkner    People (Manage user accounts, roles, and permissions.)16:44
jelkner    Modules (Extend site functionality.)16:44
replaceafillwhoa whoa16:44
jelkner    Configuration (Administer settings.)16:44
jelkner    Reports (View reports, updates, and errors.)16:44
jelkner    Help (Reference for usage, configuration, and modules.)16:44
jelknerHide shortcuts16:44
replaceafilljelkner, ...16:44
replaceafilljelkner, ;)16:44
replaceafilljelkner, under Modules16:45
replaceafilljelkner, there's a CIVICRM section at the bottom16:45
replaceafilljelkner, if civi is activated you should see a CiviCRM link under the Navigation sidebar (left) when you log in as admin16:46
replaceafilljelkner, or16:46
replaceafilljelkner, you can try: http://your_ip/?q=civicrm/dashboard16:46
jelknerhow do you login as admin?16:47
jelkneri've been loggin in as drupalsite16:47
jelkneroh wait, that is admin16:47
jelknerwhen i click My account16:48
replaceafilljelkner, you should have created a drupal administrator account when you set it up16:48
jelknerI see a CiviCRM link16:48
replaceafilljelkner, yes16:48
replaceafilljelkner, on the sidebar?16:48
replaceafilljelkner, that's the one16:48
jelknerwhen I click on that, i see CiviCRM Home16:49
jelknerok, that can get me started16:49
replaceafilljelkner, touchdown!16:49
jelkneri'll document that16:49
jelknerin my next blog post16:49
replaceafilljelkner, you can follow the link i pasted above after that16:50
jelknerWow, I have a "System Status: Critical" warning16:50
replaceafilljelkner, using search contacts etc16:50
replaceafilljelkner, about cron tasks?16:50
jelknerCiviCRM Security Updat Required16:50
jelknerCron Not Running16:50
replaceafilljelkner, yes16:50
jelknerConfigure Default Mailbox16:51
jelknerComplete Setup16:51
jelknerPrivate Files Readable16:51
jelknerprogress, my friend16:51
replaceafilljelkner, you can check /index.php?q=civicrm/a/#/status16:51
jelknerwithout things failing, we would have nothing to do ;-)16:51
replaceafilljelkner, for all the civi related "issues"16:52
jelknerokie dokie16:52
replaceafilljelkner, green good, yellow not so much, red oops16:52
jelknerwe have lots of red16:52
jelknerok, need to go for today16:52
replaceafilljelkner, kk16:52
replaceafilljelkner, glad you made progress16:52
jelkneri have an nea4or meeting soon16:52
jelknerme too!16:53
jelknerlater gater16:53
jelknerACTION signs off for the evening16:53
replaceafillmr_german, you know what to do next, yes?16:53
replaceafillmr_german, kk, go go go :)16:54
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mjsir911louisea, I got your email but i'm havinga bit of email/communications problem for a bit, i'll try to get back to you on that stuff tomorrow afternoon18:27
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