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| SITarabuta | !event please work, for the love of god, 2020-03-25, 2020-03-25, IRC, -1 | 00:37 |
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| Little_Brother | Invalid arguments. | 00:37 |
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| SITarabuta | !event please work, for the love of god, 2020-03-25, 2020-03-25, IRC, 1 | 00:38 |
| The event "please work" has been created. | 00:38 | |
| SITarabuta | !event please work, for the love of god, 2020-03-25, 2020-03-25, IRC, -1 | 00:38 |
| Little_Brother | Invalid arguments. | 00:38 |
| abuchholz | !event please work, for the love of god, 2020-03-25, 2020-03-25, IRC, | 00:38 |
| The event has missing arguments. | 00:38 | |
| abuchholz | !event please work, for the love of god, 2020-03-25, 2020-03-25, IRC | 00:39 |
| The event has missing arguments. | 00:39 | |
| SITarabuta | !event please work, for the love of god, 2020-03-25, 2020-03-25, IRC, 9999999999999999999999999999999 | 00:39 |
| The event has invalid arguments. | 00:39 | |
| SITarabuta | !event please work, for the love of god, 2020-03-25, 2020-03-25, IRC, 99999999999999999999999999 | 00:39 |
| The event has invalid arguments. | 00:39 | |
| SITarabuta | !event please work, for the love of god, 2020-03-25, 2020-03-25, IRC, 999999999999999999 | 00:39 |
| The event has invalid arguments. | 00:39 | |
| SITarabuta | !event please work, for the love of god, 2020-03-25, 2020-03-25, IRC, 999999999999 | 00:39 |
| The event has invalid arguments. | 00:39 | |
| SITarabuta | !event please work, for the love of god, 2020-03-25, 2020-03-25, IRC, 99999999 | 00:40 |
| The event "please work" has been created. | 00:40 | |
| SITarabuta | !event please work, for the love of god, 2020-03-25, 2020-03-25, IRC, 0 | 00:41 |
| The event "please work" has been created. | 00:41 | |
| SITarabuta | !event please work, for the love of god, 2020-03-25, 2020-03-25, IRC, -0 | 00:41 |
| Little_Brother | Invalid arguments. | 00:41 |
| abuchholz | !event please work, for the love of god, 2020-03-25 10:00, 2020-03-25 11:00, IRC, -1 | 00:41 |
| Little_Brother | Invalid arguments. | 00:41 |
| SITarabuta | !event please work, for the love of god, 2020-03-25, 2020-03-25, IRC, 1- | 00:42 |
| The event has invalid arguments. | 00:42 | |
| SITarabuta | !event please work, for the love of god, 2020-03-25, 2020-03-25, IRC, 0-1 | 00:42 |
| The event has invalid arguments. | 00:42 | |
| SITarabuta | !event please work, for the love of god, 2020-03-25, 2020-03-25, IRC, -1 | 00:42 |
| Little_Brother | Invalid arguments. | 00:42 |
| abuchholz | !help event | 00:42 |
| Little_Brother | Add Event to LibreOrganize | 00:42 |
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| SITarabuta | !event please work, for the love of god, 2020-03-25, 2020-03-25, IRC, 1 | 00:43 |
| The event "please work" has been created. | 00:43 | |
| SITarabuta | !event please work, for the love of god, 2020-03-25, 2020-03-25, IRC, 1 | 00:43 |
| The event "please work" has been created. | 00:43 | |
| The event "please work" has been created. | 00:43 | |
| The event "please work" has been created. | 00:43 | |
| SITarabuta | Uhm | 00:43 |
| SITarabuta | Uhm | 00:43 |
| SITarabuta | WHO IS THE FAKE ONE | 00:43 |
| SITarabuta | WHO IS THE FAKE ONE | 00:43 |
| SITarabuta | !event please work, for the love of god, 2020-03-25, 2020-03-25, IRC, -1 | 00:43 |
| Little_Brother | Invalid arguments. | 00:43 |
| SITarabuta | !event please work, for the love of god, 2020-03-25, 2020-03-25, IRC, -1 | 00:43 |
| Little_Brother_ | Invalid arguments. | 00:43 |
| Little_Brother | Invalid arguments. | 00:43 |
| Little_Brother_ | Invalid arguments. | 00:43 |
| SITarabuta | !event please work, for the love of god, 2020-03-25, 2020-03-25, IRC, -1 | 00:43 |
| Little_Brother | Invalid arguments. | 00:43 |
| SITarabuta | !event please work, for the love of god, 2020-03-25, 2020-03-25, IRC, -1 | 00:43 |
| Little_Brother_ | Invalid arguments. | 00:43 |
| Little_Brother | Invalid arguments. | 00:43 |
| Little_Brother_ | Invalid arguments. | 00:43 |
| SITarabuta | !event please work, for the love of god, 2020-03-25, 2020-03-25, IRC, -1 | 00:43 |
| Little_Brother | Invalid arguments. | 00:43 |
| SITarabuta | !event please work, for the love of god, 2020-03-25, 2020-03-25, IRC, -1 | 00:43 |
| Little_Brother_ | Invalid arguments. | 00:43 |
| Little_Brother_ | Invalid arguments. | 00:43 |
| Little_Brother | Invalid arguments. | 00:43 |
| SITarabuta | !event please work, for the love of god, 2020-03-25, 2020-03-25, IRC, -1 | 00:43 |
| Little_Brother | Invalid arguments. | 00:43 |
| SITarabuta | !event please work, for the love of god, 2020-03-25, 2020-03-25, IRC, -1 | 00:43 |
| Little_Brother_ | Invalid arguments. | 00:43 |
| Little_Brother | Invalid arguments. | 00:43 |
| Little_Brother_ | Invalid arguments. | 00:43 |
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| abuchholz | !event please work, for the love of god, 2020-03-25, 2020-03-25, IRC, -1 | 00:46 |
| Little_Brother | Invalid arguments. | 00:46 |
| abuchholz | !remind | 00:47 |
| SITarabuta | !remind | 00:47 |
| abuchholz | !event please work, for the love of god, 2020-03-25, 2020-03-25, IRC, '' | 00:49 |
| The event has invalid arguments. | 00:49 | |
| abuchholz | !event please work, for the love of god, 2020-03-25, 2020-03-25, IRC, ' ' | 00:49 |
| The event has invalid arguments. | 00:49 | |
| abuchholz | !event please work, for the love of god, 2020-03-25, 2020-03-25, IRC | 00:49 |
| The event has missing arguments. | 00:49 | |
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| SITarabuta | !event please work, for the love of god, 2020-03-25, 2020-03-25, IRC, infinity | 00:51 |
| The event "please work" has been created. | 00:51 | |
| abuchholz | !event please work, for the love of god, 2020-03-25, 2020-03-25, IRC, -1 | 00:51 |
| Little_Brother | Invalid arguments. | 00:51 |
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| abuchholz | !help event | 00:53 |
| Little_Brother | Create event on novawebdevelopment.org | 00:53 |
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| SITarabuta | !remind Mail was down yesterday ;) | 03:46 |
| "Mail was down yesterday ;)" added to message queue | 03:46 | |
| SITarabuta | !remind Checkout our website for new stuff | 03:47 |
| "Checkout our website for new stuff" added to message queue | 03:47 | |
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| jelkner | !remind | 12:43 |
| jelkner | !remind Getting Logging back for Little_Brother | 12:44 |
| "Getting Logging back for Little_Brother" added to message queue | 12:44 | |
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| abuchholz | good morning jelkner | 13:51 |
| abuchholz | !remind | 14:51 |
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| nrcerna | !remind | 15:12 |
| abuchholz | !remind | 15:13 |
| abuchholz | jelkner it might not go off at 12 today because it is still set to sunday | 15:13 |
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| SITarabuta | !remind | 15:26 |
| abuchholz | !remind | 15:27 |
| abuchholz | lit | 15:27 |
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| ubuntourist | !remind | 15:50 |
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| ubuntourist | Let's see if Linode's clock is better than WebFaction's. ;-) | 15:57 |
| SITarabuta | Let's hope so :) | 15:57 |
| abuchholz | it should | 15:57 |
| jelkner | ubuntourist, we can change the clock on linode | 15:58 |
| jelkner | if it isn't | 15:59 |
| jelkner | we can't on webfaction | 15:59 |
| ubuntourist | jelkner, there is that. | 15:59 |
| ubuntourist | $ date says it's on target... | 15:59 |
| SITarabuta | !time | 16:00 |
| Little_Brother | 2020-03-26 16:00:01.275903 | 16:00 |
| SITarabuta | uh oh | 16:00 |
| abuchholz | yeah | 16:00 |
| SITarabuta | IT IS UTC | 16:00 |
| abuchholz | thats a problem | 16:00 |
| SITarabuta | ahhahahah | 16:00 |
| abuchholz | !cronforce | 16:00 |
| lbolz : hrodriguez : GFbot : @ubuntourist : SITarabuta : nrcerna : abuchholz : +jelkner : wolcen : @ChanServ : @mjsir911 | 16:00 | |
| Developing work teams - abuchholz, lbolz, and stefan & nrcerna, GFbot, and zOnny? (jelkner) | 16:00 | |
| Working with Heylin on NOVALACIRO website (jelkner) | 16:00 | |
| Mail was down yesterday ;) (SITarabuta) | 16:00 | |
| Checkout our website for new stuff (SITarabuta) | 16:00 | |
| Getting Logging back for Little_Brother (jelkner) | 16:00 | |
| abuchholz | we can fix the time later | 16:00 |
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| jelkner | nrcerna, you're in charge, yes? | 16:01 |
| nrcerna | yes | 16:01 |
| nrcerna | Good morning everyone | 16:01 |
| ubuntourist | Good afternoon, ;-) | 16:01 |
| SITarabuta | Hi there | 16:01 |
| abuchholz | Hello | 16:01 |
| lbolz | hello! | 16:01 |
| jelkner | Hi | 16:02 |
| nrcerna | yes, I forget that ubuntourist, here still good morning jaja | 16:02 |
| nrcerna | Well the first item: Hello Little Brother (ubuntourist) | 16:02 |
| nrcerna | I think ubuntourist started to do it | 16:03 |
| ubuntourist | So, That was both a test and an announcement: Big Brother is now Little Brother and living on our new site. Yay. | 16:03 |
| jelkner | Yipee! | 16:03 |
| nrcerna | +1 | 16:03 |
| ubuntourist | It is logging, but the bit that converts the log to HTML on the fly is not in place, and no URL points to the logs yet. | 16:04 |
| ubuntourist | SITarabuta, and abuchholz have poked at it some as well. | 16:04 |
| jelkner | ubuntourist, we have near term plans to fix that, yes? | 16:04 |
| jelkner | mjsir911, set it up in the first place | 16:04 |
| jelkner | we could perhaps reach out to him for help? | 16:04 |
| jelkner | he's here in arlington | 16:05 |
| SITarabuta | it is nginx now | 16:05 |
| jelkner | not that it matters | 16:05 |
| SITarabuta | not apache2 anymore | 16:05 |
| jelkner | ahh | 16:05 |
| ubuntourist | jelkner, my understanding is that Linode is on nginx. WebFaction had a wee instance of apache2 | 16:05 |
| GFbot | SITarabuta finally. | 16:05 |
| GFbot | 1+ | 16:05 |
| SITarabuta | ;) | 16:05 |
| ubuntourist | jelkner, and so, the configuration that drives the irc-log-to-html conversion and finds the path to the logs must be moved | 16:06 |
| ubuntourist | jelkner, from apache's configuration to nginx's configuration. | 16:06 |
| ubuntourist | ACTION is done. | 16:06 |
| nrcerna | Great | 16:06 |
| nrcerna | since we already started the next item | 16:06 |
| nrcerna | Talk about the IRC Bot (abuchholz) | 16:06 |
| abuchholz | alright so I am pleased to announce that we have a new command, event | 16:07 |
| abuchholz | by typing in !help event you can see the syntax for the event | 16:07 |
| abuchholz | !event Test title, Test Desc, 2020-03-26 11:00, 2020-03-26 12:00, test location, 1 | 16:07 |
| The event "Test title" has been created. | 16:07 | |
| abuchholz | https://novawebdevelopment.org/events/calendar/ | 16:07 |
| jelkner | wow! | 16:07 |
| SITarabuta | Quick, someone log in and delete it haha | 16:07 |
| abuchholz | You will now see an event that has been created | 16:07 |
| jelkner | all this is too cool! | 16:07 |
| abuchholz | ACTION is done. | 16:08 |
| nrcerna | +1 | 16:08 |
| nrcerna | thanks abuchholz | 16:08 |
| jelkner | +1 | 16:08 |
| SITarabuta | +1 | 16:08 |
| nrcerna | the next item | 16:09 |
| nrcerna | jelkner, about this I want to know, where is Sameen? | 16:09 |
| SITarabuta | I want to say OOF so bad, but I won't. | 16:10 |
| jelkner | nrcerna, i'm sorry | 16:10 |
| jelkner | she emailed me that she had another class meeting | 16:10 |
| jelkner | she contacted me by email last night | 16:10 |
| nrcerna | OK :( | 16:10 |
| jelkner | APS is still trying to work out on-line schooling | 16:11 |
| ubuntourist | Someone should check w/ her re: email setup. | 16:11 |
| jelkner | so the rules are being made up as we go | 16:11 |
| jelkner | ubuntourist, i'll follow up with her | 16:11 |
| nrcerna | np | 16:11 |
| SITarabuta | no need ubuntourist hehe | 16:11 |
| nrcerna | Ok lets move to the next item :) | 16:12 |
| nrcerna | Developing work teams - abuchholz, lbolz, and stefan & nrcerna, GFbot, and zOnny? (jelkner) | 16:12 |
| jelkner | +1 | 16:12 |
| nrcerna | this is really great jelkner | 16:12 |
| jelkner | nrcerna, things are going so well already, do we need to add anything at present? | 16:12 |
| jelkner | since this already seems to be in place | 16:12 |
| nrcerna | Just that GFbot and zOnny are going to work together in the business tracker | 16:13 |
| jelkner | btw, nrcerna, did you eventually get the email with business manager story? | 16:13 |
| jelkner | business tracker, i'm sorry | 16:13 |
| jelkner | yes | 16:13 |
| nrcerna | and we are going to meet Alan today as usual | 16:13 |
| GFbot | zOnny i sent you the repo | 16:13 |
| jelkner | nrcerna, did you get the email? | 16:14 |
| GFbot | you should be able to clone and take look of it | 16:14 |
| nrcerna | thiis ones jelkner "A complex user story for our business logic app" | 16:14 |
| jelkner | +1 | 16:14 |
| jelkner | let's talk about that at the meeting with alan | 16:14 |
| nrcerna | Ok | 16:15 |
| jelkner | ACTION done | 16:15 |
| nrcerna | well with this, we have 2 developer teams | 16:15 |
| GFbot | jelkner i got the email too | 16:15 |
| nrcerna | next item: - Working with Heylin on NOVALACIRO website (jelkner) | 16:16 |
| jelkner | let me be quick | 16:16 |
| jelkner | hrodriguez is here with us | 16:16 |
| hrodriguez | yes jelkner | 16:16 |
| jelkner | she is an organizer | 16:16 |
| jelkner | but she can't organize in person under present circumstances | 16:16 |
| jelkner | so now is the time to get NOVALACIRO set up with LOv2 | 16:17 |
| jelkner | she has 20 hours per week to help test using it | 16:17 |
| jelkner | so we should work that into a schedule | 16:17 |
| nrcerna | I think we need to track if her needs are front or back end and then assign who and how is going to help her | 16:18 |
| jelkner | i heard there is already good news about NOVALACIRO data being ported to LOv2? | 16:18 |
| nrcerna | jelkner | 16:18 |
| jelkner | nrcerna, +1 | 16:18 |
| jelkner | definitely | 16:18 |
| GFbot | jelkner we have the theme ready | 16:18 |
| jelkner | lbolz, would you be willing to coordinate that? | 16:18 |
| lbolz | sure, i guess | 16:19 |
| jelkner | great | 16:19 |
| abuchholz | we can talk more in the discord lbolz | 16:19 |
| jelkner | lbolz, that means just making sure hrodriguez gets connected with the developers | 16:19 |
| lbolz | ok | 16:20 |
| jelkner | and sets up a schedule to test the new site | 16:20 |
| jelkner | btw. we can bill NOVALACIRO | 16:20 |
| jelkner | so they are a paying customer if we can deliver real value to them | 16:20 |
| nrcerna | +1 | 16:20 |
| nrcerna | next item: Mail was down yesterday ;) (SITarabuta) | 16:21 |
| SITarabuta | Alright | 16:21 |
| jelkner | drum roll please... | 16:21 |
| SITarabuta | I will combine my two reminders. | 16:21 |
| SITarabuta | So, long story short, we now have a mail server that is accessible at mail.novawebdevelopment.org. | 16:21 |
| SITarabuta | If you log in on novawebdevelopment.org, and click on the dashboard, you will also see 3 new buttons: MAIL, IRC LOGS, WIKI. | 16:22 |
| SITarabuta | I am trying to unify all of our stuff in one place, so new people won't have issues with finding stuff (like I had hehe). | 16:22 |
| SITarabuta | https://imgur.com/a/kxCZA2v | 16:22 |
| SITarabuta | here you can see the old email reputation vs the new email | 16:22 |
| SITarabuta | reputation | 16:22 |
| SITarabuta | Everyone has an account with the password: password. Please log in, go to settings, password, and change it! Pretty please ;) | 16:22 |
| jelkner | This is AMAZING! | 16:22 |
| jelkner | a dream come true | 16:23 |
| SITarabuta | jelkner, I wasn't sure what your email was, WebFaction says jeff.elkner, but shouldn't it be jeffrey.elkner? | 16:23 |
| SITarabuta | I made it jeffrey.elkner | 16:23 |
| SITarabuta | but i can change it | 16:23 |
| nrcerna | I cant see the dashboard when I click it SITarabuta | 16:23 |
| nrcerna | Why? | 16:23 |
| jelkner | just don't call me late for dinner | 16:23 |
| SITarabuta | What do you mean? | 16:23 |
| nrcerna | I just went to our website | 16:23 |
| abuchholz | are you logged in? | 16:24 |
| nrcerna | and then I clicked the dashboard icon | 16:24 |
| SITarabuta | Adrian can | 16:24 |
| nrcerna | yes | 16:24 |
| SITarabuta | Weird, anyway, we'll fix that later | 16:24 |
| SITarabuta | Now, there is a little catch with all of this email stuff | 16:24 |
| nrcerna | https://novawebdevelopment.org/accounts/4/#dashboard | 16:24 |
| jelkner | i can't login either | 16:24 |
| SITarabuta | where jeff | 16:24 |
| jelkner | we'll need to work the kinks out | 16:24 |
| nrcerna | I cant see it | 16:24 |
| abuchholz | oh | 16:24 |
| jelkner | let's do that after the meeting | 16:24 |
| jelkner | my login is my gmail account now, for example | 16:25 |
| jelkner | i'll want to change that | 16:25 |
| SITarabuta | On the mail jeff, | 16:25 |
| SITarabuta | the login is jeffrey.elkner@novawebdevelopment.org | 16:25 |
| jelkner | it shouldn't be different, SITarabuta | 16:25 |
| abuchholz | mail.novawebdevelopment.org | 16:25 |
| jelkner | ok | 16:25 |
| SITarabuta | the login is your email address jelkner | 16:25 |
| SITarabuta | which is this jeffrey.elkner@novawebdevelopment.org | 16:25 |
| jelkner | SITarabuta, we now have a better option | 16:26 |
| jelkner | my login should be jeffrey.elkner | 16:26 |
| ubuntourist | SITarabuta, login failed. Wrong password. | 16:26 |
| jelkner | since the mail extension is standard | 16:26 |
| SITarabuta | the password is | 16:26 |
| SITarabuta | password | 16:26 |
| jelkner | it doesn't need to be included | 16:26 |
| abuchholz | you need to change it to ur password | 16:26 |
| jelkner | let's talk after | 16:26 |
| lbolz | mine works | 16:26 |
| ubuntourist | SITarabuta, that's what I fed it. | 16:26 |
| SITarabuta | ok, i see that jelkner | 16:26 |
| SITarabuta | kevin.cole@novawebdevelopment.org | 16:26 |
| SITarabuta | Now, there is a little catch. To add an alias, such as "everyone", we have to use SQL directly. It is very easy, but yeah, there are 3 solutions to that:1. I could use some software to do that, but I have to setup the whole thing again. It is not hard though, so if you really want it, I can do it.2. Pay the developers of the software in the current | 16:27 |
| SITarabuta | setup to let us use the extra features (Pro version). They give us the source code.3. Just use SQL.So my question is what option should we choose? | 16:27 |
| ubuntourist | SITarabuta, there 't'is. Sorry 'bout that. I wasn't suffixing with "@novawebdevelopment.org" | 16:28 |
| SITarabuta | yep, np ubuntourist | 16:28 |
| jelkner | we are a web development business | 16:28 |
| SITarabuta | also, please change your password everyone | 16:28 |
| jelkner | just use SQL seems the best option to me | 16:28 |
| SITarabuta | ok, great | 16:28 |
| jelkner | what to others think? | 16:29 |
| abuchholz | thank you stefan | 16:29 |
| abuchholz | SQL | 16:29 |
| nrcerna | zOnny? | 16:29 |
| GFbot | jelkner sql | 16:30 |
| GFbot | 1+ | 16:30 |
| jelkner | ubuntourist, do you agree? | 16:30 |
| jelkner | let's move on, nrcerna | 16:31 |
| nrcerna | ok | 16:32 |
| zOnny | 1 ? which software? | 16:32 |
| SITarabuta | modoboa | 16:32 |
| ubuntourist | jelkner, Sorry. Old. Slow. I was catching up (after logging in, changing password, storing new password, etc, etc.) | 16:33 |
| ubuntourist | jelkner, gimme a sec to see what everyone's blathering on about. ;-) | 16:33 |
| zOnny | SITarabuta: It seems that it uses nginx by default | 16:34 |
| SITarabuta | yes | 16:34 |
| SITarabuta | wait no | 16:34 |
| SITarabuta | i am using iRedMail | 16:34 |
| SITarabuta | the alternative is Modoboa | 16:34 |
| SITarabuta | but both use Nginx | 16:34 |
| SITarabuta | And I set it up with postgresql | 16:34 |
| ubuntourist | jelkner, If the question is: Should we use SQL directly instead of paying, I've got no problem with the SQL approach. | 16:34 |
| SITarabuta | because we love it | 16:34 |
| SITarabuta | ubuntourist yes | 16:35 |
| zOnny | SITarabuta: I think the desicion is already made | 16:35 |
| SITarabuta | alright, there it is | 16:35 |
| jelkner | SITarabuta, we will want a talk at some point on the email architecture | 16:35 |
| SITarabuta | sure | 16:35 |
| jelkner | but for now, it seems clear we are all happy with how you have set it up | 16:35 |
| jelkner | thanks! | 16:36 |
| SITarabuta | so I am setting up the aliases | 16:36 |
| SITarabuta | OH, BE CAREFUL! Your current setup for email WILL NOT work | 16:36 |
| ubuntourist | ACTION reserves judgment until he actually USES it. ;-) | 16:36 |
| SITarabuta | You have to log in here to see email! If you want to use a client, use the smtp and imap server mail.novawebdevelopment.org! | 16:36 |
| jelkner | SITarabuta, does that mean everybody is a query returning the list of users? | 16:36 |
| ubuntourist | SITarabuta, hence my earlier question about setting up new people. | 16:37 |
| SITarabuta | No, it is just an entry in an alias table jelkner | 16:37 |
| SITarabuta | Where the server looks where to send stuff, but it is a list basically | 16:37 |
| SITarabuta | ubuntourist, can you repeat that? | 16:37 |
| SITarabuta | question* | 16:37 |
| jelkner | proposal | 16:37 |
| jelkner | this is already and after meeting discussion | 16:37 |
| jelkner | and we are 8 minutes over | 16:38 |
| ubuntourist | SITarabuta, <ubuntourist> Someone should check w/ her re: email setup. | 16:38 |
| jelkner | can we close the meeting and then talk email? | 16:38 |
| jelkner | so folks who don't want to stay for that can leave | 16:38 |
| jelkner | s/and/an | 16:38 |
| SITarabuta | ok, but they should get their email working though | 16:38 |
| nrcerna | well next item belongs to you SITarabuta - Checkout our website for new stuff | 16:38 |
| SITarabuta | skip that | 16:38 |
| jelkner | SITarabuta, let's let brave poineers go first | 16:38 |
| nrcerna | ok | 16:38 |
| ubuntourist | I want to talk about a few things, but they're all semi-techie / post meeting. Still, folks should hang around for it to weigh in if they can. | 16:39 |
| SITarabuta | i talked about it | 16:39 |
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| SITarabuta | ok ubuntourist | 16:39 |
| nrcerna | the last one: Getting Logging back for Little_Brother (jelkner) | 16:40 |
| ubuntourist | nrcerna, Already addressed, methinks. | 16:40 |
| jelkner | nrcerna, i think we covered that already | 16:40 |
| nrcerna | Ok | 16:40 |
| nrcerna | so we are done | 16:41 |
| SITarabuta | Should Heylin still have an email @novawebdevelopment.org? | 16:41 |
| ubuntourist | (Logging is happening, just not visible to the unwashed masses yet.) | 16:41 |
| abuchholz | cool | 16:41 |
| nrcerna | Ok I think we are done? | 16:42 |
| nrcerna | anyone has anything to add? | 16:42 |
| ubuntourist | Wash your hands. Maintain social distancing. ;-) | 16:43 |
| abuchholz | so I know this comment will be frowned upon by some. But might I recommend that we join a discord call/or some other software so that stefan can share his screen and answer any questions about email | 16:43 |
| nrcerna | About that ubuntourist, our government discovered to cases in our city,one of them in about 8 blocks from our home | 16:43 |
| abuchholz | his setup is much easier too see and explain by talking than over text | 16:44 |
| ubuntourist | My apartment building's infected. | 16:44 |
| nrcerna | :( ubuntourist | 16:44 |
| nrcerna | Ok. | 16:44 |
| nrcerna | ACTION drops the bag of gravel | 16:45 |
| ubuntourist | abuchholz, That's part of my post-meeting thoughts. | 16:45 |
| ubuntourist | OK, quickly, three things: | 16:45 |
| ubuntourist | 1. Easy fix I think: Functional tests failing due to lack of membership table. | 16:45 |
| abuchholz | yeah i know the exact problem | 16:46 |
| jelkner | SITarabuta, no, Heylin doesn't need a NOVA Web email | 16:46 |
| abuchholz | stefan needs to update requirements.txt | 16:46 |
| ubuntourist | 2. As jelkner email migration stuff. | 16:46 |
| SITarabuta | ok jelkner | 16:46 |
| jelkner | SITarabuta, can i ask a process question? | 16:46 |
| GFbot | zOnny you here? | 16:47 |
| zOnny | GFbot: I got it | 16:47 |
| ubuntourist | 3. as to abuchholz suggestion: Please keep trying to work out bridging between Discord / IRC / Riot.im (matrix). Riot.im (matrix) is having issues, | 16:47 |
| GFbot | zOnny cool | 16:47 |
| ubuntourist | but perhaps we can run our own instance of matrix to solve that issue. | 16:47 |
| jelkner | SITarabuta, it seems we want this process for email: | 16:47 |
| SITarabuta | jelkner sure | 16:47 |
| jelkner | 1. The initiated (pioneers, whatever you want to call them) go first | 16:48 |
| jelkner | 2. once the kinks have been worked out, we bring in everyone else | 16:48 |
| ubuntourist | Possible to integrate matrix w/ LOv2 perhaps? | 16:48 |
| jelkner | that saves valuable time | 16:48 |
| jelkner | since in a new system | 16:48 |
| SITarabuta | jelkner that is unfortunately not possible. | 16:48 |
| SITarabuta | With email, it is either off, or on | 16:48 |
| jelkner | so, we agree to turn it off for a few days | 16:49 |
| GFbot | jelkner you want to intagrate business tracker with LO2v i think right? | 16:49 |
| jelkner | for example, i feel pretty strongly that my login should just be the part before the @ | 16:49 |
| SITarabuta | So, jelkner that means that we shoud use the old system? | 16:49 |
| jelkner | Google does that | 16:49 |
| jelkner | it's really nice if we can do it | 16:49 |
| SITarabuta | that is possible jeff | 16:49 |
| SITarabuta | i can set it up right now | 16:50 |
| SITarabuta | it takes like 3 seconds | 16:50 |
| jelkner | SITarabuta, my fingers are hurting, can i call you? | 16:50 |
| SITarabuta | try now, i made it work without @ | 16:50 |
| SITarabuta | sure | 16:50 |
| ubuntourist | SITarabuta, will that be a new account or are you renaming the user for the account we just logged into? | 16:50 |
| SITarabuta | same account, but adding a username | 16:50 |
| SITarabuta | i have to add it for everyone though | 16:50 |
| SITarabuta | manually | 16:51 |
| ubuntourist | SITarabuta, will that be an alias? Or a replacement? i.e. will the long one still work? | 16:51 |
| abuchholz | ubuntourist hes talking to jeff. I think it will be an alias but not a 100% sure. | 16:52 |
| SITarabuta | no alias | 16:52 |
| SITarabuta | hold on | 16:52 |
| ubuntourist | nrcerna, the Center for Disease Control (CDC) and the apartment building is maintaining confidentiality -- with good reason, | 16:54 |
| ubuntourist | nrcerna, but sometimes a little information is worse than none. | 16:54 |
| nrcerna | +1 | 16:54 |
| ubuntourist | nrcerna, A lot of residents (not me) are panicking a bit and want to know who's infected, when was it discovered, where have they been in the building, etc. etc. | 16:55 |
| nrcerna | Its totally normal | 16:55 |
| nrcerna | we always need information, its fear talking | 16:55 |
| ubuntourist | nrcerna, I think, perhaps, it would have been better for the building management not to let anyone know there are cases in the building. | 16:55 |
| ubuntourist | nrcerna, The information we've been provided is nothing we can act upon, really. | 16:56 |
| ubuntourist | ACTION is stepping away from the computer for few minutes... | 16:57 |
| nrcerna | people think that if they know who is infected they are going to stay away and be more careful about their own hygienic behavior | 16:57 |
| nrcerna | I gess | 16:57 |
| nrcerna | guess* | 16:57 |
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| jelkner | SITarabuta convinced me we need to use the full email address | 17:07 |
| SITarabuta | There we go | 17:07 |
| jelkner | SITarabuta, can you stay here a bit while i set this up | 17:07 |
| jelkner | i need to first login to email | 17:07 |
| jelkner | using jeff.elkner@novawebdevelopment.org | 17:08 |
| SITarabuta | yes | 17:08 |
| jelkner | then change my password | 17:08 |
| SITarabuta | yup | 17:08 |
| jelkner | then i need to set up new account | 17:08 |
| jelkner | on novawebdevelopment.org | 17:08 |
| jelkner | with the new email address | 17:08 |
| jelkner | SITarabuta, will you then delete the old one? | 17:08 |
| SITarabuta | you don't need a new account | 17:08 |
| jelkner | why? | 17:08 |
| SITarabuta | just go to edit account after you log in | 17:08 |
| SITarabuta | and change the email | 17:08 |
| SITarabuta | ;) | 17:08 |
| jelkner | ahh | 17:09 |
| jelkner | and that will change my login? | 17:09 |
| SITarabuta | yup | 17:09 |
| jelkner | ACTION goes to try all that | 17:09 |
| SITarabuta | ACTION fingers crossed. | 17:09 |
| jelkner | SITarabuta, mail is giving me "Unable to connect" | 17:12 |
| SITarabuta | mail.novawebdevelopment.org ? | 17:13 |
| SITarabuta | Can you access that page? | 17:13 |
| jelkner | i'm talking about the button in the dashboard | 17:13 |
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| jelkner | which trys to load /mail at the end of the url | 17:14 |
| abuchholz | it works for me | 17:14 |
| SITarabuta | Yep | 17:14 |
| SITarabuta | It also works for me | 17:14 |
| abuchholz | https://mail.novawebdevelopment.org/mail/ | 17:14 |
| SITarabuta | jelkner it redirects there that is fine | 17:14 |
| ubuntourist | ACTION is back and catching up... | 17:15 |
| SITarabuta | mail.novawebdevelopment.org redirects to mail.novawebdevelopment.org/mail/ | 17:15 |
| abuchholz | +1 | 17:15 |
| jelkner | it wont' let me connect | 17:15 |
| jelkner | with or without /mail | 17:15 |
| jelkner | it did before, but now i'm getting "Unable to connect Firefox can’t establish a connection to the server at mail.novawebdevelopment.org." | 17:16 |
| abuchholz | ok thats with firefox | 17:16 |
| SITarabuta | No | 17:16 |
| ubuntourist | jelkner, SITarabuta instructions worked for me (once I added the @...) | 17:16 |
| SITarabuta | It works with my firefox | 17:16 |
| ubuntourist | jelkner, I used Firefox to do it... | 17:16 |
| SITarabuta | Jeff, try Shift-Refresh | 17:17 |
| SITarabuta | maybe a caching issue | 17:17 |
| abuchholz | yeah | 17:17 |
| abuchholz | make sure you are doing https:// not http:// | 17:17 |
| SITarabuta | It doesn't matter, it redirects | 17:17 |
| jelkner | now from chromium: This site can’t be reachedmail.novawebdevelopment.org refused to connect. | 17:18 |
| jelkner | Try: | 17:18 |
| jelkner | Checking the connection | 17:18 |
| jelkner | Checking the proxy and the firewall | 17:18 |
| jelkner | ERR_CONNECTION_REFUSED | 17:18 |
| SITarabuta | Wait, is this your laptop or APS? | 17:18 |
| SITarabuta | Maybe they block it.. | 17:18 |
| jelkner | my home computer | 17:18 |
| jelkner | i'm at home | 17:18 |
| jelkner | we aren't allowed at APS ;-) | 17:19 |
| jelkner | so its comcast | 17:19 |
| SITarabuta | Oh I know, I thought you used the APS Laptop :) | 17:19 |
| SITarabuta | I doubt it is comcast.. | 17:19 |
| ubuntourist | (I just went back to novawebdevelopment.org and tried again from the dashboard, to see if there was some weird issue, but it seems to be working fine still.) | 17:20 |
| ubuntourist | jelkner, Any weird proxy settings in your browsers? | 17:20 |
| jelkner | i hate computer neworking! :-( | 17:20 |
| jelkner | i just checked three different browsers | 17:20 |
| jelkner | hold on, let me check my phone | 17:21 |
| SITarabuta | jelkner | 17:21 |
| SITarabuta | Try this going to this ip directly | 17:21 |
| SITarabuta | 66.228.38.177 | 17:21 |
| SITarabuta | It should say Security Issue | 17:21 |
| ubuntourist | jelkner, Yeah, but it doesn't mean you didn't change settings in three browsers... (When I've needed proxy stuff, I have to set all my browsers to be aware.) | 17:21 |
| jelkner | ubuntourist, same issue on my android phone! | 17:23 |
| SITarabuta | are you on the home wifi? | 17:23 |
| SITarabuta | Did you try using the Celluar data? | 17:23 |
| SITarabuta | Maybe your home wifi is messed up :/ | 17:23 |
| abuchholz | +1 | 17:24 |
| ubuntourist | jelkner, "$ mtr mail.novawebdevelopment.org" -- assuming you have mtr installed -- to see if there's a breakdown in communication? | 17:24 |
| ubuntourist | jelkner, (or a name resolution failure -- though SITarabuta 's suggestion would have gotten you past that hump.) | 17:26 |
| jelkner | so i was able to see the page if i explicitly add the https protocol | 17:26 |
| jelkner | on my phone | 17:26 |
| jelkner | but that still doesn't work on my desktop | 17:26 |
| jelkner | traceroute is showing me a 15 hop table | 17:27 |
| SITarabuta | for me http also works. interesting - it just redirects to https | 17:27 |
| jelkner | with 11 being gw2.ewr1.us.linode.com | 17:27 |
| jelkner | and 12-14 all ??? | 17:28 |
| jelkner | but 15 is mail.novawebdevelopment.org | 17:28 |
| jelkner | this is really annoying | 17:28 |
| SITarabuta | MTR is only showing me this: 1. mail.novawebdevelopment.org | 17:28 |
| SITarabuta | hmm | 17:28 |
| SITarabuta | Oh, maybe your router has weird DNS caching. | 17:29 |
| SITarabuta | You could try to restart it | 17:29 |
| SITarabuta | This really is annoying. | 17:29 |
| jelkner | i could, and as a backup plan, i could try setting up Evolution | 17:29 |
| jelkner | anyway, i know the mail is waiting for me there later | 17:29 |
| SITarabuta | hehe :) | 17:30 |
| ubuntourist | jelkner, I get 17 hops. 14, 15, and 16 are ??? but 13 is 199.245.16.78 and 17 is mail.novawebdevelopment.org. | 17:30 |
| jelkner | ACTION is going to shut everything down | 17:30 |
| jelkner | and restart the home router | 17:30 |
| ubuntourist | jelkner, maybe restart your home router | 17:30 |
| jelkner | bb soon | 17:30 |
| SITarabuta | okay | 17:30 |
| ubuntourist | So. Discord <--> IRC bridge? Anyone investigate? (I have not.) | 17:31 |
| abuchholz | i mean I can | 17:31 |
| abuchholz | I just dont think its that practical to be honest | 17:32 |
| ubuntourist | abuchholz, Fair 'nuf. | 17:33 |
| ubuntourist | abuchholz, SITarabuta you've made part of the case for discord as "all the cool kids are using it". So, I imagine a switch to something else with the same features would not be an easy sell: | 17:35 |
| ubuntourist | People are already invested and comfy with Discord, yes? | 17:35 |
| ubuntourist | jelkner and I have been poking around with Riot.IM, but it uses a server that is having problems bridging to IRC, ATM. | 17:36 |
| ubuntourist | It uses "matrix". It would be nice to integrate some sort of video-chat capability into LibreOrganize, either by leveraging matrix or getting down and dirty w/ WebRTC directly. | 17:37 |
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| jelkner | SITarabuta, i rebooted the router and the computer | 17:46 |
| jelkner | still no dice | 17:46 |
| jelkner | i should try connecting with Evolution | 17:46 |
| jelkner | so let me grab lunch | 17:47 |
| jelkner | while i wait for instruction on doing that | 17:47 |
| jelkner | which you can send to my personal email address ;-) | 17:47 |
| jelkner | SITarabuta, ping | 18:01 |
| jelkner | i just tried now, and i can get to the mail web interface | 18:01 |
| jelkner | but i can't login | 18:01 |
| jelkner | i need to reset my password again, perhaps | 18:01 |
| SITarabuta | hmm | 18:02 |
| SITarabuta | how come it works now? | 18:02 |
| SITarabuta | Also, your password is password | 18:02 |
| SITarabuta | so jeff.elkner@novawebdevelopment.org and password | 18:02 |
| jelkner | i have no forking idea | 18:03 |
| SITarabuta | and now that everyone can see the account, it should make you change the password fast ;) | 18:03 |
| SITarabuta | well.. it works | 18:03 |
| jelkner | i tried jeff.elkner@novawebdevelopment.org | 18:03 |
| jelkner | with password password | 18:03 |
| jelkner | but permission denied | 18:03 |
| jelkner | so next step is getting in | 18:03 |
| SITarabuta | on email, right? | 18:04 |
| SITarabuta | or on libreorganize | 18:04 |
| jelkner | on mail.novawebdevelopment.org | 18:04 |
| jelkner | i'm logged in to LO | 18:05 |
| SITarabuta | ok | 18:05 |
| SITarabuta | maybe i misstyped the password | 18:05 |
| SITarabuta | try again, i reset it | 18:05 |
| jelkner | can you reset it for me please? | 18:05 |
| SITarabuta | ACTION done | 18:06 |
| jelkner | This is sooo annoying! | 18:08 |
| jelkner | jeff.elkner@novawedevelopment.org | 18:08 |
| SITarabuta | can you tell me exactly what is it saying | 18:08 |
| jelkner | that's the correct username, yes? | 18:08 |
| SITarabuta | yes | 18:08 |
| jelkner | wow, now it is giving me unable to connect again | 18:09 |
| jelkner | i had the login screen | 18:09 |
| jelkner | but not now | 18:09 |
| SITarabuta | then it is your internet for sure - i tried logging in your account and it worked..... | 18:09 |
| jelkner | ok, let me try setting up evolution | 18:09 |
| SITarabuta | ok, one second | 18:09 |
| SITarabuta | i will send instructions in about 15 min | 18:10 |
| abuchholz | jeff.elkner@novawedevelopment.org u are missing a b from this jeff.elkner@novawebdevelopment.org | 18:11 |
| jelkner | nrcerna, ping | 18:45 |
| jelkner | i just tried to call you | 18:45 |
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| abuchholz | !remind | 20:39 |
| abuchholz | !remind | 20:39 |
| abuchholz | !help | 20:39 |
| Little_Brother | Available commands: !event, !help, !ping, !remind, !time | 20:39 |
| abuchholz | !help remind | 20:39 |
| Little_Brother | Remind about events | 20:39 |
| abuchholz | !remind | 20:39 |
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