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| shmohamud | Hey guys, I won't be able to join you today | 12:54 |
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| shmohamud | I am taking a bus out of town and am preparing for a trip now | 12:54 |
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| jelkner | Good afternoon, fkoikoi! | 13:04 |
| jelkner | Good morning shmohamud! | 13:05 |
| fkoikoi | Good Morning Jeff and shmohamud | 13:07 |
| jelkner | fkoikoi, what is happening with you and UoPeople? | 13:07 |
| jelkner | Have you taken any classes yet? | 13:08 |
| jelkner | Are you scheduled for any next term? | 13:08 |
| fkoikoi | registration is still in process Jeff | 13:09 |
| jelkner | did you take any classes this past term? | 13:09 |
| sysadmin | Good morning everyone | 13:09 |
| fkoikoi | I sent you a mail which contain my report for the past term | 13:09 |
| jelkner | Good afternoon scooper | 13:10 |
| jelkner | when? | 13:10 |
| jelkner | ACTION goes to look through his email | 13:10 |
| fkoikoi | today | 13:10 |
| scooper | Shmohamud how are you feeling now ???? | 13:11 |
| jelkner | fkoikoi, I have scooper's but I don't see yours. | 13:12 |
| jelkner | can you tell me here which class you took? | 13:13 |
| fkoikoi | I sent it on your google account | 13:13 |
| jelkner | and which one you will have next term? | 13:13 |
| jelkner | oh, that's why | 13:13 |
| jelkner | ACTION goes to look at his google account | 13:13 |
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| jelkner | scooper, is Signal the best way for us to talk? | 13:21 |
| scooper | right now??? | 13:22 |
| jelkner | scooper, are you here? | 13:38 |
| jelkner | fkoikoi, are you? | 13:38 |
| jelkner | sysadmin_, you're back | 13:40 |
| jelkner | no, let's not try that | 13:40 |
| jelkner | too frustrating | 13:40 |
| sysadmin_ | I m calling you | 13:40 |
| jelkner | yes, please don't | 13:40 |
| jelkner | i'm not picking up, sysadmin_ | 13:40 |
| jelkner | hand up | 13:40 |
| jelkner | hang up | 13:40 |
| sysadmin_ | meaning I not right | 13:41 |
| jelkner | ?? | 13:41 |
| sysadmin_ | I just aborted the call | 13:41 |
| jelkner | good | 13:41 |
| jelkner | it is too frustrating to try to use voice | 13:41 |
| jelkner | it's not effective | 13:41 |
| sysadmin_ | Sorry for the interruption, we had a power shortage not too long | 13:41 |
| jelkner | yes, i understand | 13:41 |
| jelkner | no problem, my friend, chat is better | 13:41 |
| jelkner | when you disconnect here, i know it *immediately* | 13:42 |
| jelkner | what's even better, LittleWebster records what i type | 13:42 |
| jelkner | so you can look back in the log to see what you missed | 13:42 |
| sysadmin_ | OK I dong Introduction to Statistics at UoPeople this term | 13:42 |
| jelkner | thanks! | 13:42 |
| sysadmin_ | MATH 1280 | 13:42 |
| sysadmin_ | why freena is doing "Python" | 13:43 |
| jelkner | MATH 1280 Introduction to Statistics | 13:44 |
| sysadmin_ | +1 | 13:44 |
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| jelkner | https://www.uopeople.edu/become-student/prepare-for-uopeople/prepare-college-courses/programming-fundamentals-java-cs-1101-learning-materials/ | 13:45 |
| jelkner | That's the one fkoikoi_ is taking | 13:45 |
| jelkner | sysadmin_, when does it start? | 13:46 |
| sysadmin_ | no | 13:46 |
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| sysadmin_ | On the 15 of this month | 13:46 |
| jelkner | fkoikoi_, i can help you with this course the most | 13:46 |
| sysadmin_ | and end of the 10 of August | 13:47 |
| sysadmin_ | *on | 13:47 |
| jelkner | so prepare to work hard on it! | 13:47 |
| jelkner | https://www.greenteapress.com/thinkpython/html/index.html | 13:47 |
| jelkner | this is the book you'll be using | 13:47 |
| fkoikoi_ | yes | 13:47 |
| sysadmin_ | +1 | 13:48 |
| jelkner | if you look here: | 13:48 |
| jelkner | https://www.greenteapress.com/thinkpython/html/thinkpython001.html#toc1 | 13:48 |
| fkoikoi_ | I already have it | 13:48 |
| jelkner | you'll see my name | 13:48 |
| sysadmin_ | that is the book, you name was even mentioned in it | 13:48 |
| jelkner | yup | 13:48 |
| sysadmin_ | *your name | 13:48 |
| jelkner | this book has had a big impact on my life | 13:48 |
| sysadmin_ | and you have had a big impact in my life too Jeff | 13:49 |
| jelkner | i translated Allen Downey's original Java version of this book into Python | 13:49 |
| jelkner | Allen learned Python from reading his own book ;-) | 13:49 |
| jelkner | anyway, i'm currently working on my own remix | 13:50 |
| jelkner | https://openbookproject.net/books/bpp4awd/ | 13:50 |
| jelkner | Also, Dr. Chuck made his book by remixing this one | 13:50 |
| jelkner | ok, we'll come back to this | 13:50 |
| jelkner | let's talk about our plan for tomorrow | 13:51 |
| jelkner | and sysadmin_, i want to respond to your comments about reading IRS documents. | 13:51 |
| jelkner | *Don't* do that! | 13:51 |
| sysadmin_ | ok | 13:51 |
| sysadmin_ | https://www.irs.gov/charities-non-profits/other-non-profits/social-welfare-organizations | 13:51 |
| jelkner | it will take a long while for us to understand all this | 13:52 |
| scooper | sure | 13:52 |
| jelkner | and you will need to help me understand how things work in Liberia | 13:52 |
| jelkner | since we are going to be doing business together, we need to understand *both* | 13:52 |
| jelkner | Liberia and US rules | 13:52 |
| scooper | But from the little concept gain while reading Internal Revenue Services docs | 13:52 |
| jelkner | basically, when you hear IRS, think taxes | 13:53 |
| jelkner | now, what i want you to understand is why i'm trying to start a 501(c)3 organization | 13:53 |
| jelkner | that's the main thing i am hoping you'll understand at this point | 13:53 |
| scooper | Answer | 13:53 |
| jelkner | ok, right now, earn a salary from Arlington Public Schools (APS), and I pay taxes on that salary | 13:54 |
| scooper | Is to grow the group in liberia in term of knowledge in programming that will help reducing the unemployment rate... | 13:54 |
| jelkner | yes, but let's talk much more concretely and specifically | 13:55 |
| jelkner | i pay taxes | 13:55 |
| scooper | ok | 13:55 |
| jelkner | i even pay taxes on the $800 i'm sending you each month | 13:55 |
| jelkner | but since that $800 can be described as a "charitable contribution", i shouldn't have to pay taxes on it | 13:56 |
| jelkner | but if i send it to you, i have to pay taxes | 13:56 |
| jelkner | however, if i send it to a 501(c)3 organization, i don't have to pay taxes | 13:56 |
| jelkner | so... | 13:56 |
| jelkner | if i could send it to a 501(c)3 organization named Social Justice Computing | 13:57 |
| jelkner | and Social Justice Computing sent it to you | 13:57 |
| jelkner | then it would legally be a tax-deductible contribution | 13:57 |
| jelkner | even more importantly | 13:58 |
| jelkner | there are grants that other people would like to give to help our project | 13:58 |
| jelkner | we have an excellent project | 13:58 |
| jelkner | we are helping Liberia develop | 13:58 |
| jelkner | we are helping young folks further their education | 13:58 |
| jelkner | we are helping use technology to make the world a better place | 13:59 |
| jelkner | a lot of people would like to support us | 14:00 |
| scooper | Now I m grabbing the logical you are pushing gradually.... | 14:00 |
| scooper | *logic | 14:00 |
| jelkner | there are even grants available | 14:00 |
| jelkner | but they can only be given to 501(c)3 organizations | 14:02 |
| jelkner | so we are going to end up with 3 businesses | 14:02 |
| scooper | This mean that we will be growing the corporate to the extend it fully responsible is to help less fortunately people who are unable to empower their self academically base on the human capacitity we are growing every year or months | 14:02 |
| jelkner | 1. NOVA Web Development in Virginia - a worker cooperative (*not* a 501(c)3!) | 14:02 |
| jelkner | 2. Social Justice Computing (a 501(c)3 registered in the state of Virginia) | 14:03 |
| jelkner | 3. A new worker cooperative in Monrovia owned and operated by you all (and named by you too! ;-) | 14:03 |
| jelkner | does that make sense | 14:03 |
| jelkner | ? | 14:03 |
| scooper | +1 | 14:03 |
| jelkner | the three organizations will collaborate together | 14:04 |
| jelkner | ok, we have to switch topics now | 14:04 |
| jelkner | because we have a serious issue to deal with | 14:04 |
| jelkner | does MCSS use it's mail system? | 14:04 |
| scooper | +1 | 14:04 |
| jelkner | because i need to tell the Supe, that if we don't get the MCSS mail system moved to an MCSS owned server, they will loose their email in a week! | 14:05 |
| jelkner | I can't keep paying for MCSS mail. | 14:05 |
| scooper | Jeff | 14:05 |
| jelkner | Spencer | 14:05 |
| scooper | Didn't Aaron migrated the mail server and website together | 14:06 |
| jelkner | No. | 14:06 |
| jelkner | It has not been migrated | 14:06 |
| scooper | hmmmmm | 14:06 |
| jelkner | Adrian told me last night that MCSS mail is still on the server that NOVA Web hosts | 14:06 |
| jelkner | I want to shut that down | 14:06 |
| scooper | I believe you, because the day the mcss website when down I thought the mail was not going to work but unfortunately it was still working | 14:07 |
| scooper | If that is the case what can be done now??? | 14:07 |
| scooper | Since MCSS have it own server?? | 14:07 |
| jelkner | Well, we need the Supe to set up MCSS ownership | 14:08 |
| jelkner | not you personally | 14:08 |
| jelkner | but MCSS | 14:08 |
| jelkner | question, scooper | 14:08 |
| scooper | Just tell me what to do then I can | 14:08 |
| jelkner | how can you, me and Mr. Zawolo meet? | 14:08 |
| scooper | \me waiting for Jeff question | 14:08 |
| jelkner | i just asked it | 14:09 |
| jelkner | how can we meet? | 14:09 |
| jelkner | or how should we meet? | 14:09 |
| jelkner | i emailed him | 14:09 |
| jelkner | but he never replied | 14:09 |
| scooper | Tell me your convenience then I will tell he, that Jeff want to meet with us | 14:09 |
| jelkner | so i don't know what his thoughts are on this | 14:10 |
| scooper | and have a serious discussion | 14:10 |
| jelkner | i can give him a call | 14:10 |
| jelkner | but i want to do it when you are sitting near him | 14:10 |
| scooper | I will inform him and tell him has urgent and significant it's | 14:10 |
| jelkner | +1 | 14:11 |
| jelkner | is he there now? | 14:11 |
| jelkner | today would be good | 14:11 |
| jelkner | monday might be good | 14:11 |
| jelkner | tomorrow is possible | 14:11 |
| jelkner | tuesday would also be good | 14:11 |
| scooper | I done think so.... can you give me a minutes to check in his office | 14:11 |
| jelkner | thehedgeh0g, are you here? | 14:11 |
| jelkner | +1 | 14:11 |
| scooper | \me going to check on the sup.... | 14:12 |
| jelkner | fkoikoi_, still here? | 14:13 |
| scooper | \me going to check on the sup | 14:13 |
| jelkner | while scooper is doing that, we can work on the agenda for tomorrow | 14:13 |
| thehedgeh0g | I am here, jeff | 14:13 |
| fkoikoi_ | I am here Jeff | 14:14 |
| jelkner | thehedgeh0g, scooper just went to see if Superintendent Zawolo is in the building | 14:14 |
| thehedgeh0g | alright | 14:14 |
| jelkner | fkoikoi_, we need an agenda | 14:14 |
| jelkner | !agenda | 14:14 |
| LittleWebster | Warning: There are no items on the agenda! | 14:14 |
| jelkner | do you know how to add items? | 14:14 |
| fkoikoi_ | no Jeff | 14:15 |
| jelkner | then let me teach you | 14:15 |
| jelkner | first, try this command: !help | 14:15 |
| jelkner | !help | 14:15 |
| LittleWebster | Available commands: !add, !agenda, !help, !remove | 14:15 |
| jelkner | try it | 14:15 |
| jelkner | just type !help | 14:16 |
| jelkner | try it | 14:16 |
| fkoikoi_ | !help | 14:16 |
| LittleWebster | Available commands: !add, !agenda, !help, !remove | 14:16 |
| jelkner | good | 14:16 |
| scooper | Jeff | 14:16 |
| scooper | I m back | 14:16 |
| jelkner | yes, scooper? | 14:16 |
| scooper | The supe when to the bank | 14:16 |
| scooper | *went | 14:16 |
| jelkner | ok, let's check a bit later | 14:16 |
| scooper | +1 | 14:17 |
| jelkner | and try to catch him before the two of you leave today | 14:17 |
| jelkner | thehedgeh0g will be leaving for vacation after next week | 14:17 |
| scooper | consider it done | 14:17 |
| scooper | Jeff | 14:17 |
| jelkner | so we if don't get this done by then, MCSS email will stop working the week after that | 14:17 |
| jelkner | thanks, my friend | 14:17 |
| scooper | Can this me migrated to the new Server I purchased from Hetzner??? | 14:18 |
| jelkner | yes, that's where thehedgeh0g is going to put it | 14:18 |
| scooper | Can I ask a question??? | 14:18 |
| jelkner | please do | 14:18 |
| scooper | If so what need to be done before this migration take place???? | 14:19 |
| jelkner | 1. MCSS needs it's own (not yours personally) accounts in Hetzner and Namecheap | 14:20 |
| jelkner | thehedgeh0g, can we transfer ownership of the server? | 14:20 |
| jelkner | or do we need to setup a new one with the MCSS account? | 14:20 |
| jelkner | scooper, i need to be very clear | 14:21 |
| jelkner | we do not want to do this with your personal account | 14:21 |
| scooper | I m listening Jeff | 14:21 |
| scooper | If that is the case I m can set up an account for mcss on namecheap and Hetzner | 14:22 |
| jelkner | You *do not* want to be responsible for this for ever!!!!!!!! | 14:22 |
| scooper | Will that be fine.... | 14:22 |
| scooper | Sure | 14:22 |
| jelkner | neither does the Supe!!!! | 14:22 |
| scooper | It has cause lot of inconvenience for more over the past time...... | 14:22 |
| jelkner | it *must* belong to MCSS as an institution | 14:22 |
| jelkner | That way, anyone whom the institution contract to work on it can | 14:23 |
| jelkner | now and in the future | 14:23 |
| jelkner | for now it will be us | 14:23 |
| jelkner | in the future, who knows? | 14:23 |
| jelkner | make sesne | 14:23 |
| jelkner | ? | 14:23 |
| scooper | At the initial stage I didn't understand thing like this was going to happen.... | 14:23 |
| scooper | yes | 14:23 |
| scooper | I reason with you Jeff | 14:24 |
| jelkner | of course you didn't my friend | 14:24 |
| jelkner | there is so much to learn | 14:24 |
| jelkner | some things you can only learn the hard way ;-) | 14:24 |
| jelkner | by doing them! | 14:24 |
| jelkner | i already made so many, many mistakes | 14:25 |
| jelkner | that i've learned a few things ;-) | 14:25 |
| scooper | Should I go ahead and create a new account on Hetzner and nameCheap with MCSS Credentials????? | 14:25 |
| jelkner | +1!!!!! | 14:25 |
| fkoikoi_ | Jeff we have not plan the agenda for tomorrow meeting yet | 14:25 |
| jelkner | yes, fkoikoi_, i know | 14:26 |
| scooper | Now here is the problem Jeff | 14:26 |
| jelkner | i like to joke with my students that "I can't walk and chew gum at the same time." | 14:26 |
| jelkner | and here i am walking, trying to chew gum, blow bubbles, and juggle all at the same time! | 14:27 |
| jelkner | LOL | 14:27 |
| scooper | Creating another account on Hetzner will come with a cost | 14:27 |
| jelkner | thehedgeh0g, what's the story on that? | 14:27 |
| jelkner | scooper, i don't know what to tell you | 14:28 |
| scooper | That mean MCSS will need to migrate again from the previous server I purchased in December to a new Server right? Because those server have a separate IP Address | 14:28 |
| jelkner | i believe that is true | 14:29 |
| jelkner | unless ownership of the account can be migrated from you to MCSS | 14:29 |
| jelkner | you should contact Hetnzer and ask | 14:29 |
| scooper | I will | 14:29 |
| jelkner | but please do it soon | 14:29 |
| scooper | After our meeting I will do that | 14:30 |
| jelkner | because after next week, i will stop paying for the NOVA Web hosted MCSS email server | 14:30 |
| jelkner | and soon MCSS email will stop working | 14:30 |
| jelkner | let's stop now, then | 14:30 |
| jelkner | and i can work with fkoikoi_ on tomorrow's agenda | 14:30 |
| scooper | \me back to your agenda | 14:30 |
| jelkner | fkoikoi_, ready? | 14:31 |
| fkoikoi_ | yes | 14:31 |
| jelkner | ok, first question, do you know what LittleWebster is? | 14:32 |
| fkoikoi_ | not really | 14:32 |
| jelkner | great, let's start there | 14:32 |
| jelkner | LittleWebster is what is called an Internet bot | 14:33 |
| jelkner | https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Internet_bot | 14:33 |
| jelkner | take a look at that article | 14:33 |
| jelkner | i'll wait while you read the first few paragraphs | 14:33 |
| fkoikoi_ | it says thar an internet robot runs automatic task | 14:35 |
| jelkner | +1 | 14:35 |
| jelkner | excellent | 14:35 |
| jelkner | that's the main thing to understand | 14:35 |
| fkoikoi_ | and helps carryon human activity like messaging | 14:35 |
| jelkner | LittleWebster is written in Python, by the way | 14:36 |
| jelkner | so when you're Python skills get good enough, you can make it do new things | 14:36 |
| jelkner | s/you're/your | 14:36 |
| fkoikoi_ | +1 | 14:36 |
| jelkner | anyway, LittleWebster responds to commands that begin with the character ! | 14:37 |
| jelkner | so !help causes it to display the help message | 14:37 |
| jelkner | listing it's current commands | 14:37 |
| jelkner | what commands does LittleWebster have? | 14:37 |
| fkoikoi_ | agenda | 14:38 |
| fkoikoi_ | add | 14:38 |
| jelkner | two more | 14:38 |
| fkoikoi_ | help and remove | 14:38 |
| jelkner | +1 | 14:38 |
| jelkner | you rock, fkoikoi_ | 14:38 |
| jelkner | excellent | 14:38 |
| jelkner | so LittleWebster is a nice simple bot | 14:38 |
| jelkner | it just manages our agenda | 14:38 |
| jelkner | you can add items, remove items, display the list, and print the help message | 14:39 |
| jelkner | that's it | 14:39 |
| jelkner | but also, it is responds to the system clock | 14:39 |
| thehedgeh0g | jelkner: Scooper needs to adjust the contact and billing information on the current Hetzner account to be information that goes to MCSS | 14:39 |
| jelkner | so you can tell it to print the agenda (and then erase it from memory) each week at the same time | 14:40 |
| thehedgeh0g | and the billing needs to go to MCSS as well | 14:40 |
| thehedgeh0g | I do apologize for the delay | 14:40 |
| jelkner | oh that's good new, thehedgeh0g | 14:40 |
| jelkner | scooper, did you see that? | 14:40 |
| jelkner | make things *much* easier | 14:40 |
| scooper | +1 | 14:40 |
| thehedgeh0g | next, scooper, you need to create your own Hetzner account, then the MCSS account can give you access to the mail server so that you can administrate it still. | 14:40 |
| jelkner | ok fkoikoi_ i'm back to you | 14:40 |
| scooper | one more thing??? | 14:40 |
| jelkner | scooper, thehedgeh0g can you two please handle this, so fkoikoi_ and i can work together? | 14:41 |
| scooper | ok | 14:41 |
| jelkner | fkoikoi_, watch this | 14:41 |
| jelkner | !add Talk about silly things (8 hours) | 14:41 |
| LittleWebster | Success: "Talk about silly things (8 hours)" has been added to the agenda. | 14:41 |
| jelkner | !agenda | 14:41 |
| LittleWebster | This is the agenda for the next meeting: | 14:41 |
| LittleWebster | Talk about silly things (8 hours) (added by jelkner) | 14:41 |
| jelkner | that's how you add an item to the agenda | 14:41 |
| jelkner | but this is not a good item | 14:42 |
| jelkner | so i'll remove it | 14:42 |
| jelkner | !remove Talk about silly things (8 hours) | 14:42 |
| LittleWebster | Success: "Talk about silly things (8 hours)" has been removed from the agenda. | 14:42 |
| jelkner | !agenda | 14:42 |
| LittleWebster | Warning: There are no items on the agenda! | 14:42 |
| jelkner | fkoikoi_, make sense? | 14:42 |
| fkoikoi_ | +1 | 14:42 |
| jelkner | ok, now it's your turn | 14:42 |
| jelkner | what do we want on the agenda? | 14:43 |
| jelkner | scooper, thehedgeh0g two conversations can go on at the same time | 14:43 |
| jelkner | irc works fine that way | 14:43 |
| jelkner | so scooper ask your question | 14:43 |
| jelkner | but just direct it at thehedgeh0g | 14:43 |
| jelkner | not me | 14:43 |
| jelkner | fkoikoi_, i'm waiting... | 14:44 |
| fkoikoi_ | !add Preparation for the Summer class (1hour) | 14:44 |
| LittleWebster | Success: "Preparation for the Summer class (1hour)" has been added to the agenda. | 14:44 |
| fkoikoi_ | !agenda | 14:44 |
| LittleWebster | This is the agenda for the next meeting: | 14:44 |
| LittleWebster | Preparation for the Summer class (1hour) (added by fkoikoi_) | 14:44 |
| jelkner | beautiful! | 14:44 |
| jelkner | the perfect item! | 14:45 |
| fkoikoi_ | thanks | 14:45 |
| jelkner | ok my turn | 14:45 |
| thehedgeh0g | jelkner: we're already talking directly | 14:45 |
| jelkner | !add Ask Shallon if she will be our main point of contact for the Rural Clean Cooking Stove project (10 minutes) | 14:46 |
| LittleWebster | Success: "Ask Shallon if she will be our main point of contact for the Rural Clean Cooking Stove project (10 minutes)" has been added to the agenda. | 14:46 |
| jelkner | okie dokie thehedgeh0g | 14:46 |
| jelkner | thanks | 14:46 |
| jelkner | !agenda | 14:46 |
| LittleWebster | This is the agenda for the next meeting: | 14:46 |
| LittleWebster | Preparation for the Summer class (1hour) (added by fkoikoi_) | 14:46 |
| LittleWebster | Ask Shallon if she will be our main point of contact for the Rural Clean Cooking Stove project (10 minutes) (added by jelkner) | 14:46 |
| jelkner | fkoikoi_, i am correct that Thomas, Mulbah, Daniel, and Shallon are now graduates, yes? | 14:47 |
| jelkner | They are finished with high school? | 14:47 |
| fkoikoi_ | +1 | 14:47 |
| jelkner | So tomorrow we want to figure out what they want to do with us now | 14:48 |
| jelkner | so we can plan our progress | 14:48 |
| jelkner | you are in the Python group | 14:48 |
| fkoikoi_ | +1 | 14:48 |
| jelkner | Shallon heads the web group | 14:48 |
| jelkner | and Thomas and Mulbah are the sys admin group | 14:48 |
| jelkner | I asked Kevin Cole if he would be willing to tutor the sys admin group | 14:49 |
| jelkner | he said he thought he might like to do that | 14:49 |
| jelkner | i'm going to suggest tomorrow that Thomas and Mulbah email him directly to ask him | 14:49 |
| fkoikoi_ | that will be good | 14:50 |
| fkoikoi_ | so when will the summer class start, Jeff? | 14:51 |
| jelkner | i'm going to also suggest that Shallon and Daniel, if they agree, complete the CIW Advanced HTML5 & CSS3 Specialist certification *before* they start UoPeople | 14:51 |
| jelkner | which class, fkoikoi_? | 14:51 |
| jelkner | what class are you talking about? | 14:52 |
| fkoikoi_ | The summer class that was discuss last Saturday | 14:52 |
| jelkner | oh | 14:52 |
| jelkner | do you mean the one i'm teaching at the community college? | 14:52 |
| fkoikoi_ | Yes | 14:52 |
| jelkner | https://www.nvcc.edu/dual-enrollment/e-summer-program.html | 14:54 |
| jelkner | that doesn't really matter for us, fkoikoi_ | 14:54 |
| jelkner | since this is basically the same class you will be taking at UoPeople | 14:54 |
| jelkner | who besides you and scoop is in the programming team, anyone? | 14:55 |
| jelkner | is Janet working with you? | 14:55 |
| jelkner | will she have time this Summer? | 14:55 |
| fkoikoi_ | +1 | 14:55 |
| jelkner | So here is what we need to do | 14:55 |
| fkoikoi_ | I will ask her today Jeff | 14:55 |
| jelkner | great, thanks | 14:56 |
| jelkner | also, Gabriel has been messaging me that he is interested in learning with us | 14:56 |
| jelkner | i told him he needs to show up in the lab if he wants to do that | 14:56 |
| jelkner | so, we have three learning groups: | 14:57 |
| jelkner | 1. fkoikoi_, scooper, and (maybe) janet - Python | 14:57 |
| fkoikoi_ | +1 | 14:57 |
| jelkner | 2. Shallon and Daniel - HTML, CSS, and JavaScript | 14:57 |
| jelkner | 3. Mulbah and Thomas - System administration | 14:58 |
| jelkner | I can help guide groups 1 and 2 | 14:58 |
| jelkner | We'll ask Thomas and Mulbah to email Kevin Cole to ask if he will help guide them | 14:59 |
| jelkner | sound good? | 14:59 |
| fkoikoi_ | +1 | 14:59 |
| fkoikoi_ | Jeff, I think the first item on the agenda need to be change | 14:59 |
| jelkner | you know how to change it | 14:59 |
| jelkner | go ahead | 14:59 |
| jelkner | you could word it differently | 15:00 |
| fkoikoi_ | okay | 15:00 |
| jelkner | or simply keep it the way it is, but understand that it is really talking about the python group | 15:00 |
| jelkner | up to you | 15:00 |
| jelkner | you are the meeting chair! ;-) | 15:00 |
| jelkner | ok, i have about 30 minutes before my next students arrive | 15:02 |
| jelkner | any python questions for me? | 15:02 |
| fkoikoi_ | I said it need to be change because it is not really necessary for the python group to attend the summer class but if things like HTML, CSS etc will be taught them it can remain on the agenda | 15:03 |
| jelkner | well, fkoikoi_ the python group should be organizing its own "summer class" | 15:03 |
| jelkner | you all should meet together | 15:03 |
| jelkner | and i can join you at scheduled times to answer questions | 15:04 |
| jelkner | i'm thinking the best time each weekday for me would be between 7 and 8 am my time | 15:04 |
| jelkner | which is between 12 noon and 1 pm your time | 15:04 |
| fkoikoi_ | okay | 15:05 |
| jelkner | I can meet each Tuesday and Wednesday during that time | 15:05 |
| jelkner | and some Mondays and Wednesdays | 15:05 |
| scooper | Jeff | 15:05 |
| jelkner | yes, scooper | 15:05 |
| jelkner | ? | 15:05 |
| scooper | I m going to checking on the Supe | 15:06 |
| jelkner | +1 | 15:06 |
| jelkner | fkoikoi_, we need a schedule | 15:06 |
| scooper | if he is there are you in readiness to talk with him | 15:06 |
| fkoikoi_ | but what about the system admins and the Web Developer | 15:06 |
| jelkner | let's say the Python group meets for an hour on Tuesday | 15:06 |
| jelkner | yes, scooper | 15:07 |
| scooper | ok | 15:07 |
| jelkner | and the web group meets on thursday during that time | 15:07 |
| jelkner | i can check in on Monday and Wednesday, but i need to ride my bike over to campus those days, so i can't stay long | 15:08 |
| jelkner | then the sysadmin group could schedule their own time with Kevin | 15:08 |
| fkoikoi_ | okay but I think it will be best if we discuss or plan the schedule during the meeting tomorrow | 15:08 |
| jelkner | what is *most* important is that each group schedules *a lot* of time on their own | 15:08 |
| jelkner | +1 | 15:08 |
| jelkner | yes, i totally agree madam chair | 15:09 |
| fkoikoi_ | So the agenda remain the same right? | 15:09 |
| jelkner | i was just trying to get us thinking ;-) | 15:09 |
| jelkner | sure | 15:09 |
| jelkner | as long as you can use it to lead the discuss | 15:09 |
| jelkner | it will serve its purpose | 15:09 |
| fkoikoi_ | okay | 15:09 |
| jelkner | s/discuss/discussion | 15:09 |
| jelkner | great, fkoikoi_ | 15:10 |
| jelkner | it is a pleasure planning with you! | 15:10 |
| scooper | Jeff | 15:10 |
| fkoikoi_ | it's a pleasure working with you too Jeff | 15:10 |
| jelkner | Spencer | 15:10 |
| scooper | The Sup is engaged with lot of people right now.... | 15:11 |
| jelkner | ok, no problem | 15:11 |
| jelkner | talk to him when you can | 15:11 |
| jelkner | i need to go | 15:11 |
| scooper | But Aaron have already given me all necessary instruction to make this happen | 15:11 |
| jelkner | excellent | 15:11 |
| scooper | I need to ask the sup | 15:11 |
| jelkner | so now, my dear friend, you just have to carry out those instructions | 15:11 |
| scooper | if mcss have a visa card | 15:11 |
| jelkner | +1 | 15:12 |
| jelkner | fkoikoi_, i still have 15 minutes | 15:12 |
| scooper | that that is the answer I need from him before proceeding | 15:12 |
| jelkner | any python questions? | 15:12 |
| scooper | from anybody | 15:12 |
| jelkner | from anybody, yes | 15:13 |
| scooper | Why directory name do not print in an order thought it has a key and value pairs???? | 15:13 |
| jelkner | can you give me the example? | 15:14 |
| scooper | Why dictionary do not print in an order though it has a key and value pairs?? | 15:14 |
| scooper | sure | 15:14 |
| jelkner | oh, dictionary's are not ordered | 15:14 |
| jelkner | they are just key-value pairs | 15:14 |
| jelkner | they map keys to values | 15:15 |
| jelkner | can we talk a bit about work flow? | 15:15 |
| jelkner | here is what i am hoping the Python group will start doing today: | 15:15 |
| jelkner | 1. Use the new book I'm working on: https://openbookproject.net/books/bpp4awd/ | 15:16 |
| scooper | dictQuestion = {"Jeff":"instructor", "Spencer":"student","freen":"student"} | 15:16 |
| scooper | print(dictQuestion) | 15:16 |
| jelkner | 2. Use our shared git repo for our code: https://git.mcssliberia.org/python-team/PythonStudy | 15:16 |
| jelkner | scooper, i'm going to use this example | 15:17 |
| jelkner | to show you how i want to teach you to work | 15:17 |
| jelkner | do each of you have the repo cloned on your machines? | 15:17 |
| scooper | you mean the Python Study class | 15:18 |
| scooper | repo?? | 15:18 |
| jelkner | the repo i just pasted | 15:18 |
| jelkner | in 2. | 15:18 |
| jelkner | fkoikoi_, do you have it? | 15:18 |
| fkoikoi_ | +1 | 15:18 |
| scooper | can you please paste it again | 15:19 |
| jelkner | scooper, ask fkoikoi_ | 15:19 |
| jelkner | she has it | 15:19 |
| scooper | freena can u please paste it too | 15:19 |
| fkoikoi_ | Just give me a minute let me login my git account | 15:20 |
| jelkner | scooper, please learn to use the logs | 15:21 |
| jelkner | https://irclogs.novawebdevelopment.org/%23novawebdev/2023-06-09.log.html | 15:21 |
| jelkner | irclogs.novawebdevelopment.org | 15:22 |
| jelkner | you should try to remember that | 15:22 |
| jelkner | or write it down where you can find it | 15:22 |
| jelkner | whenever we discuss something here in irc | 15:22 |
| scooper | got you | 15:22 |
| fkoikoi_ | https://git.mcssliberia.org/python-team/PythonStudy | 15:22 |
| jelkner | yup, fkoikoi_ | 15:22 |
| jelkner | that's it! | 15:22 |
| jelkner | btw, i'm going to teach everyone to put their ssh key here | 15:23 |
| jelkner | since https makes me enter my password each time | 15:23 |
| jelkner | ssh is better | 15:23 |
| jelkner | it doesn't ask for passwords | 15:23 |
| jelkner | do you have it cloned on your local machine? | 15:24 |
| jelkner | i've only got 5 minutes | 15:25 |
| scooper | yes | 15:25 |
| jelkner | fkoikoi_, do you have it cloned? | 15:25 |
| scooper | it cloned on my computer already | 15:25 |
| fkoikoi_ | yes | 15:26 |
| jelkner | i just did a git push | 15:26 |
| jelkner | do a git pull | 15:26 |
| jelkner | and you should get what i just added | 15:26 |
| scooper | It say already up to date | 15:27 |
| jelkner | you just cloned it | 15:27 |
| scooper | yes | 15:27 |
| jelkner | so it would be up to date for you | 15:27 |
| jelkner | but fkoikoi_ had it already | 15:27 |
| jelkner | scooper, type: git log | 15:28 |
| scooper | I just did | 15:28 |
| scooper | Author Jeffrey ELkner | 15:28 |
| jelkner | what does my last commit message say | 15:29 |
| fkoikoi_ | I can't see anything Jeff | 15:29 |
| scooper | Add solution to exercise | 15:29 |
| scooper | 2 | 15:29 |
| scooper | sorry | 15:30 |
| scooper | Add Spencers question | 15:30 |
| jelkner | Yes! | 15:30 |
| jelkner | that's it | 15:30 |
| jelkner | if you look | 15:30 |
| jelkner | i created a directory named Summer2023 | 15:30 |
| jelkner | in that i created a subdirectory named June9 | 15:30 |
| jelkner | in that i put a python program named spencer1.py | 15:31 |
| jelkner | it has your question | 15:31 |
| jelkner | ok, scooper students are here, i have to go | 15:32 |
| scooper | before you leave | 15:32 |
| jelkner | gotta go | 15:32 |
| jelkner | students here | 15:32 |
| jelkner | later... | 15:32 |
| jelkner | ACTION logs off | 15:32 |
| scooper | are we using ssh-keygen to genrate the publish key?? | 15:32 |
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| *** fkoikoi_ has quit (Quit: Leaving) | 15:33 | |
| *** scooper has quit (Quit: Leaving) | 15:43 | |
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